Well, asside from the absurd reality of the whole situation that is being thrust upon us by those with large sums of money more than we could ever have... why the hell are you wasting taxpayer's money on a HighSchool radio station? $3000? That could be used to get some better textbooks, hell anything! Tutorial materials for students who are not doing that great in different subjects, something other than this blatant misappropriation of the taxpayer's money.
what the intended market for any product is. I can buy a gun quite easily and shoot anyone I please. I could buy a car and run over your dog. I might like it, and a lot of people might want to do it. That doesn't mean that is the 'intended market'. I am so sick of you control freaks telling everyone what they can and cannot do simply because there is the opportunity to do wrong. Shame on you.
And how many years did the developer's community wait for STL? Hell, most colleges still don't teach it to their intro to C++ students..101(nor their 102 class students). This is really out there to me.
All I have understood is that it is _something_ that uses XML(which I still don't think is the big thing that everyone thought it was going to be) and it is going to have on one great big server: all the data about me that the CIA(or any advertising agency) could ever want. How does GNOME, Mono and.NET got to do with eachother... aside from Mono being noninovative? I'm not trying to troll, nor am I trying to start a flame war. I just want to understand what this really is. I have read white papers, I have looked at all of this stuff and I just don't understand what the hell it is. Is it a programming API? Is it a network? I don't get it and I am sick and damned tired of hearing about how great everyone thinks it is.
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I realize this is a troll, but I just have to reply to one of these every-now-and-then. It's my air, so stop breathing!
It is a very powerful 3D editor, from what I have seen, but I'll be damned if I can get it to do anything! lol I just hope that the plugin isn't as impossible to use as the editor. I'm glad to hear that they have Linux in mind though.
So, how is this setup going to be better than using the usual M$ setup? They still pay out the ears. You have to remember the target audience is enterprise/business. Although they are used to spending money hand over fist, they are looking to the financial benefits that Linux can provide.
You may have a point, but it is way off for the most part. Even if you do educate the voting masses, you will still have 'lobyists' paying 'soft money' to the congressmen after they are in office. Greed is a powerful aly, and an overwhelming foe.
Aye, but the problem lie in that if neither of the corporations were so aggressive, they would both be able to prosper forever, rather than stare the bussiness end of a shotgun of legal battles that they both will pummel themselves with(not to mention a few years down the road when the government actually notices that the people don't want the carrier and the content to be under one roof).
I say this is not good, but the only direction the situation could possibly take.
Hey, thanks!
I thought that NIN had thier own label that Trent started after he got fscked by his previous label. NOTHING Records or something like that.
Wrongo. Stop buying from the corporate music distrubutors. Yeah, that may stop you from listening to your favorite bands, but let's face it... the bands will break up, and go elsewhere under a new name and a new label.
Mulder: Bambi was telling me about...
Scully: Bambi?
Mulder: Yeah, she was telling me about...
Scully: Her name is Bambi?
I think that is one of my most favorite X-Files episodes... ahh the nostalgia.
Is this something from the current series? I watched the first episode and decided once and for all that I wasn't going to buy the dvd's past season 6... much less watch the tripe they are airing now.
This would never hold up in court. The government tells companies what they can and cannot do too much as it is already(this includes our favorite POS, M$). Besides this, the funding for the judicial system to crack down on insecure software would be infinitesimal. Yeah, this is exactly what the people want, higher taxes. My system is secure, I shouldn't have to pay for other's ignorance and stupidity.
Thanks man. I really do appreciate the fact that you have the foresight to not just bitchslap me and forget about it. I have been using distros of all sorts from RH to Slack all the way down to little floppy distros. I am into networking. I write firewall scripts. That is what I do for fun. I have hardware and devices that belong to my fiance who has had them much longer than she has wanted to use Linux. She wants to switch for the same reason that I wanted to switch years ago. Stability. I guess I am just angry because I cannot help her. Back to the waiting game!;)
I realize that some people think that you buy products for your computer after you have been using the OS for three or so years... I'm not a guru by any means, but I'm not a moron. I do apreciate the feedback that I have gotten, even the rotters of the bunch.
Like I said earlier in this post, I have been using Linux for about three years, but my fiance has been using her camera/scanner/printer in Windows for much longer than her desire to make the switch. I have tried on various occasions to contact the manufacturers of all the products and have only gotten a reply from HP(with the link to the sourceforge site). I must appologize for abusing/. as a moaning platform, but I do think that there are people out there that are reading this that may acctually have some sort of swing in the business(I'm just a tech, I don't know how beurocrats work in business).
Yeah, I know, it is the market that pushes the drivers side. However, I am going to make a quick statement: I am not a fscking programmer, so don't tell me to go write a driver!
I want to be able to plug in my scanner, my printer, my fscking digital camera and have it work. Period. I am willing to download and install some stuff. I am even willing to compiles _some_ stuff. I'm not going to spend two to three days downloading source(24.6kbaud connection) and compile libs for a week with all of the problems involved. I have a Canon scanner 620p, I have a Toshiba Digital Camera PDR-M60, and an Hp 970cse printer. None of these work, with the exception of the printer, which does not print photo-quality(which is why I payed the outrageous price I did). This is how it is all over. I don't want to use Microsoft products. I can't afford a Mac. So, I TRY to use Linux. But you know what? All I can do is practice networking skills and use the internet! Whopity-friggin doo!
I'll do everything within my power, be it donating money to carrying your kids to soccer practice, if you folks will just start writing drivers!
Perhaps a lobbying HOW-TO is in order here. Since you seem to know so much about it, you can write it, add it to the LDP, and start mass-mailing it to everyone on/., MacSlash, Kuro5hin... etc. I'm not trolling, nor am I flaming. But just as I am sick of people bitching about how bad things are and not doing anything I am sick of people bitching about the bitchers who in turn don't do anything to help the bitchers. Add links to your sig, anything!
BTW, if anyone out there is in Georgia... check this out: link.
I am an OpenSource and FreeSoftware advocate, so please spare me the usual advocate diatribe. I would like to know why it is you support and push OpenSource software in your company. Sun, is by definition, one of the companies that OpenSource and especially the FreeSoftware Foundation is trying to topple. Why would you, or Sun wish to adopt an opposing strategy which has, unfortunatly, failed(for the most part). I realize that there are projects which have been extremely sucessful(Apache comes to mind) but so far, most other OSS projects have gone down in flames or sit in obscurity(Linux, *BSD). How do you think you can make it work, and how can it benifit the public as a whole?
Yeah, I know, MS sucks and destroys competition in nastier ways than just incompatible revisions. At this point, I consider it a matter of proven record since Judge Jackson's finding of fact was upheald by the appeals court.:)
You mean you have to get the word from a corrupt justice system to tell you that something is bad? I'm not trying to flame here, but stating that invalidates anything you have to say about the whole situation, doesn't it?
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Well, asside from the absurd reality of the whole situation that is being thrust upon us by those with large sums of money more than we could ever have... why the hell are you wasting taxpayer's money on a HighSchool radio station? $3000? That could be used to get some better textbooks, hell anything! Tutorial materials for students who are not doing that great in different subjects, something other than this blatant misappropriation of the taxpayer's money.
what the intended market for any product is. I can buy a gun quite easily and shoot anyone I please. I could buy a car and run over your dog. I might like it, and a lot of people might want to do it. That doesn't mean that is the 'intended market'. I am so sick of you control freaks telling everyone what they can and cannot do simply because there is the opportunity to do wrong. Shame on you.
And how many years did the developer's community wait for STL? Hell, most colleges still don't teach it to their intro to C++ students..101(nor their 102 class students). This is really out there to me.
So, in essince, this is the be all end all of embrace and extend... in a word extinction of all non-M$ approved hardware/software?
All I have understood is that it is _something_ that uses XML(which I still don't think is the big thing that everyone thought it was going to be) and it is going to have on one great big server: all the data about me that the CIA(or any advertising agency) could ever want. How does GNOME, Mono and .NET got to do with eachother... aside from Mono being noninovative? I'm not trying to troll, nor am I trying to start a flame war. I just want to understand what this really is. I have read white papers, I have looked at all of this stuff and I just don't understand what the hell it is. Is it a programming API? Is it a network? I don't get it and I am sick and damned tired of hearing about how great everyone thinks it is.
I realize this is a troll, but I just have to reply to one of these every-now-and-then. It's my air, so stop breathing!
It is a very powerful 3D editor, from what I have seen, but I'll be damned if I can get it to do anything! lol I just hope that the plugin isn't as impossible to use as the editor. I'm glad to hear that they have Linux in mind though.
So, how is this setup going to be better than using the usual M$ setup? They still pay out the ears. You have to remember the target audience is enterprise/business. Although they are used to spending money hand over fist, they are looking to the financial benefits that Linux can provide.
So that is why they provide setups with multiple outputs...?
You may have a point, but it is way off for the most part. Even if you do educate the voting masses, you will still have 'lobyists' paying 'soft money' to the congressmen after they are in office. Greed is a powerful aly, and an overwhelming foe.
Aye, but the problem lie in that if neither of the corporations were so aggressive, they would both be able to prosper forever, rather than stare the bussiness end of a shotgun of legal battles that they both will pummel themselves with(not to mention a few years down the road when the government actually notices that the people don't want the carrier and the content to be under one roof).
I say this is not good, but the only direction the situation could possibly take.
Hey, thanks!
I thought that NIN had thier own label that Trent started after he got fscked by his previous label. NOTHING Records or something like that.
I can't even get their site to work... I was going to see if any of the music I had was of their work. Oh well.
Wrongo. Stop buying from the corporate music distrubutors. Yeah, that may stop you from listening to your favorite bands, but let's face it... the bands will break up, and go elsewhere under a new name and a new label.
Mulder: Bambi was telling me about ...
...
Scully: Bambi?
Mulder: Yeah, she was telling me about
Scully: Her name is Bambi?
I think that is one of my most favorite X-Files episodes... ahh the nostalgia.
Is this something from the current series? I watched the first episode and decided once and for all that I wasn't going to buy the dvd's past season 6... much less watch the tripe they are airing now.
I'd say it was just after the movie that it really started to suck. The writing took a serious nose-dive and the directing just flat out died.
This would never hold up in court. The government tells companies what they can and cannot do too much as it is already(this includes our favorite POS, M$). Besides this, the funding for the judicial system to crack down on insecure software would be infinitesimal. Yeah, this is exactly what the people want, higher taxes. My system is secure, I shouldn't have to pay for other's ignorance and stupidity.
And then he'll be just like any other politician. A professional Confidince Trixter.
Thanks man. I really do appreciate the fact that you have the foresight to not just bitchslap me and forget about it. I have been using distros of all sorts from RH to Slack all the way down to little floppy distros. I am into networking. I write firewall scripts. That is what I do for fun. I have hardware and devices that belong to my fiance who has had them much longer than she has wanted to use Linux. She wants to switch for the same reason that I wanted to switch years ago. Stability. I guess I am just angry because I cannot help her. ;)
Back to the waiting game!
I realize that some people think that you buy products for your computer after you have been using the OS for three or so years... I'm not a guru by any means, but I'm not a moron. I do apreciate the feedback that I have gotten, even the rotters of the bunch. /. as a moaning platform, but I do think that there are people out there that are reading this that may acctually have some sort of swing in the business(I'm just a tech, I don't know how beurocrats work in business).
Like I said earlier in this post, I have been using Linux for about three years, but my fiance has been using her camera/scanner/printer in Windows for much longer than her desire to make the switch. I have tried on various occasions to contact the manufacturers of all the products and have only gotten a reply from HP(with the link to the sourceforge site). I must appologize for abusing
Yeah, I know, it is the market that pushes the drivers side. However, I am going to make a quick statement: I am not a fscking programmer, so don't tell me to go write a driver!
I want to be able to plug in my scanner, my printer, my fscking digital camera and have it work. Period. I am willing to download and install some stuff. I am even willing to compiles _some_ stuff. I'm not going to spend two to three days downloading source(24.6kbaud connection) and compile libs for a week with all of the problems involved. I have a Canon scanner 620p, I have a Toshiba Digital Camera PDR-M60, and an Hp 970cse printer. None of these work, with the exception of the printer, which does not print photo-quality(which is why I payed the outrageous price I did). This is how it is all over. I don't want to use Microsoft products. I can't afford a Mac. So, I TRY to use Linux. But you know what? All I can do is practice networking skills and use the internet! Whopity-friggin doo!
I'll do everything within my power, be it donating money to carrying your kids to soccer practice, if you folks will just start writing drivers!
Perhaps a lobbying HOW-TO is in order here. Since you seem to know so much about it, you can write it, add it to the LDP, and start mass-mailing it to everyone on /., MacSlash, Kuro5hin... etc. I'm not trolling, nor am I flaming. But just as I am sick of people bitching about how bad things are and not doing anything I am sick of people bitching about the bitchers who in turn don't do anything to help the bitchers. Add links to your sig, anything!
BTW, if anyone out there is in Georgia... check this out: link.
I am an OpenSource and FreeSoftware advocate, so please spare me the usual advocate diatribe. I would like to know why it is you support and push OpenSource software in your company. Sun, is by definition, one of the companies that OpenSource and especially the FreeSoftware Foundation is trying to topple. Why would you, or Sun wish to adopt an opposing strategy which has, unfortunatly, failed(for the most part). I realize that there are projects which have been extremely sucessful(Apache comes to mind) but so far, most other OSS projects have gone down in flames or sit in obscurity(Linux, *BSD). How do you think you can make it work, and how can it benifit the public as a whole?
Yeah, I know, MS sucks and destroys competition in nastier ways than just incompatible revisions. At this point, I consider it a matter of proven record since Judge Jackson's finding of fact was upheald by the appeals court. :)
You mean you have to get the word from a corrupt justice system to tell you that something is bad? I'm not trying to flame here, but stating that invalidates anything you have to say about the whole situation, doesn't it?