Rubbish Chapter and verse please... I'll respond by quoting the reverse...." We have seen that living things are too improbable and too beautifully "designed" to have come into existence by chance."....
Best motivation for evolution I've read in a long time... What's that, you think evolution is all about random chance? Go read up on your subject matter, you're being silly.
Mod parent up!!! The MOST annoying part of watching my legal DVD's is the "You wouldn't steal a car etc etc etc, Piracy IS A CRIME!!" Crap I have to sit through (and not be allowed to skip ahead). It's getting so that I'm ripping DVD's to my media server, just so I can get to the business of ACTUALLY WATCHING THE FUCKING MOVIE!!
Treat me like a criminal often enough, and pretty soon I'm going to start considering it.
Apology accepted...." Yes, a lot of religious people have done a lot of bad things. That doesn't necessarily make religion bad"....
Nope, regardless of whether people did "good" things or "bad" things in the name of religion, they believe, by definition that they are acting either in accordance to what they have been taught or against it.
Either way, by absolving yourself of personal responsibility as a religious person, I "believe" you are wrong.
I AM prejudiced against religious people, because I feel their beliefs are silly and make them do illogical things. I really think that without their beliefs, they would think things through for themselves, and come to more humane decisions.
I honestly think mankind would be better off without any dogma, hence the generalist approach to religion. So did the communists, BUT their agenda was one of control and power, and keeping it in secular, party hands.
You cant seriously suggest that evil done in name of atheism compares to that done for whatever ethereal being was in vogue at the time?
Thanks for an unusually intelligent (for a religious person) reply BTW.
So you are implying that as an atheist, I am unable to be a good person, because the only yardstick YOU have to define being good is your religion?
So by definition, if you were deprived of the teachings of whatever dogma you follow, you would be an evil person, not because of what you do, but because you don't do it to follow that particular dogma's idea of "good"?
This atheist defines "good" as treating others with the deserved modicum of respect and care. An atheist can also define "good" by whatever standards they feel is correct.
This is the difference between us, I take responsibility for my definition of "good". You, your lot, (and by "your lot" I mean, the witch burners, aborigine torturers, jet plane into high rise building fliers, you're all the same to me), think that as long as you can take a holiday from responsibility by passing it up to some "higher being" / (voices in some camel drivers head / revelations made by a sci-fi author to make money) you're perfectly justified in not being very damned "good" AT ALL!!
As an atheist I'm mentally grown up enough to make my own decisions and "spiritually" grown up enough to accept the consequences for them, without looking for some ethereal being to give me a free pass from being just another creature that dies and fades away because I claim to be "sorry" for not being "good".
As far as I'm concerned, spam is the electronic equivalent of rape. He should have his internal organs slowly hacked out and be force fed his own warm pulsating liver until he chokes while being sodomized with a sledgehammer.
adjective 1 annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand. 2 (of an angle) more than 90 and less than 180. 3 not sharp-pointed or sharp-edged; blunt.
Meaning 3) intended. Commonly used to describe something not immediately easy to grasp.
Quote to illustrate: "We always wanted more than one level. We never want to be obtuse or put things in code. We've always wanted to communicate and be accessible." Tina Weymouth
First step in solving a problem is admitting it exists......:)
BTW North of the Sahara ain't doing so fookin great either... Why not build a big wall around ALL of Africa, it's just one big homogenous country anyways innit?
PS: With the building materials left over, you might consider the middle east and eastern Europe, a load of those annoying Pacific militant states...Russia, them damn commie Chinese... flipflopping Australians....
Hang on, why not just build a wall around whichever utupia you're at. Save some bricks that way....
Insightful post..... Are you suggesting that minus the natural resources, African countries would, on the whole, be as advanced and productive as say Japan (with FA extractable natural resources worth mentioning) ?
Hey I ain't donning any outfits either (I find they don't suit my fine physique).
I just wish people would stop halting any chain of logical reasoning / causal insight for the sake of political correctness.
The black leaders in Africa are (with a very few notable exceptions) exceedingly crap at ruling their own people to the benefit of anyone but themselves and a select group of cronies.
Is this endemic to African culture? Is this endemic to post colonialist culture? Is this a symptom of a people thrust from (barely) iron age into a industrial aged world without the benefit of several thousand years worth of social evolution that Europeans underwent?
I really don't know, and any or none of the above questions may hold some truth. I do however have a problem with people insisting I can't ask the questions because that makes me prejudiced... I ask the questions ENTIRELY because I'm POSTjudiced and am judging much of African culture from the 'coal face' (or the firing line, pick your metaphor).
Once we understand the problem, we can go about fixing it. Not being allowed to investigate the problem means we will never fix it, and millions of people will live in abject misery and privation.
Logic and truth should be allowed to regain their rightful places as the tillers guiding human destiny. All this other crap is beginning to get on my nerves.
Nope Your missing where the parent is coming from, though I'll admit it is a bit obtuse.. Looky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument ODF is zipped xml, neither of which is likely to get superseded / outdated / made incompatible for a while: 1) XML is human readable (Sorta, kinda, mostly) 2) ZIP (tm) is widely used by countless libs and apps, and decompression has been reverse engineered, open sourced, dissected, inspected, and neglected (Apologies to Arlo Guthry) to death. Writing an application to open an ODF file in the future should not be a problem, unlike this article's messy scenario.....
............"Fundamentally, a database server that takes connections over TCP/IP ought to be secure enough to expose on the public internet"........
Nope nope nopity nope. The issue is not with a secure (or otherwise) port being exposed to the internet, the real security issue is the question of where has business logic just been moved? REGARDLESS of whether the database server listenes on port 35530, has super duper extra strength nine fafillion bit crypto (now with more caffiene!!! (tm) ) and only accepts connections from your permanently manned shell server in Bratislava. YOU (as in your server) should be in charge of ALL the logic that determines whether data from a client machine is valid data.
Putting ANY tier execpt a resticted presentation tier on ANY machine outside of your direct control and audit is an invitation for someone (and experience teaches, someone that business has explicitly granted access), to fsck with the data going to the database.
Next thing you know, some guy from the mailroom is driving a Bugatti in the Bahamas, and you get called to a board meeting with nothing but your dick and your oh so nifty firewall ruleset printout in your hand.
How many christians does it take to change a light bulb? . . . . . . . . . ZERO, they just wait thousands of years for the old one to come back to life...
I was on morphine for 72 hours (I know it doesn't compare) after a series of skin grafts. The multiple compound fractures that turned all the bones in my lower right leg into an advanced level jigsaw puzzle felt like a massage from an 18 year old Thai hooker compared to those frikken skin grafts.
I absolutely second your opinion, the morphine just makes you not give a shit about the pain, you're very aware that its still there.
Hahahahahaa Dumbass. I don't normally revel in other's pain, but that was hilarious! I happen to like the slight citrusy flavour of habaneros, and grow red savinas for cooking.
Because capsaicin (what makes peppers hot) is a hydrocarbon, it's not soluble in water. In fact, water just washes away the saliva, which at least has some enzymes which help, it also ensures the heat gets spread ALL over in the inside of your mouth.... fizzy drinks (esp coke) are even worse!
Have some milk, frozen yogurt or better yet a high alcohol content shooter (tequila anyone? but vodka works fine) to wash the heat out your mouth (and into your stomach, where it becomes tomorrows problem).
Rubbish ..."
Chapter and verse please... I'll respond by quoting the reverse.
We have seen that living things are too improbable and too beautifully "designed" to have come into existence by chance."....
Best motivation for evolution I've read in a long time...
What's that, you think evolution is all about random chance?
Go read up on your subject matter, you're being silly.
Sproggg
Actually yes, the reason for the existence of some bogus Cisco gear, is that it is produced by the same factory making the legit gear.
Reaf TFA.
Yah, someone tell Eddie to get the hell out of the plasma
Nope
More like precipitation presentation.
We DON'T believe that raindrops are the results of fairies pissing through a sieve
Mod parent up!!!
The MOST annoying part of watching my legal DVD's is the "You wouldn't steal a car etc etc etc, Piracy IS A CRIME!!" Crap I have to sit through (and not be allowed to skip ahead).
It's getting so that I'm ripping DVD's to my media server, just so I can get to the business of ACTUALLY WATCHING THE FUCKING MOVIE!!
Treat me like a criminal often enough, and pretty soon I'm going to start considering it.
Apology accepted. ..."
Yes, a lot of religious people have done a lot of bad things. That doesn't necessarily make religion bad"....
Nope, regardless of whether people did "good" things or "bad" things in the name of religion, they believe, by definition that they are acting either in accordance to what they have been taught or against it.
Either way, by absolving yourself of personal responsibility as a religious person, I "believe" you are wrong.
I AM prejudiced against religious people, because I feel their beliefs are silly and make them do illogical things.
I really think that without their beliefs, they would think things through for themselves, and come to more humane decisions.
I honestly think mankind would be better off without any dogma, hence the generalist approach to religion. So did the communists, BUT their agenda was one of control and power, and keeping it in secular, party hands.
You cant seriously suggest that evil done in name of atheism compares to that done for whatever ethereal being was in vogue at the time?
Thanks for an unusually intelligent (for a religious person) reply BTW.
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The Sproggg
So you are implying that as an atheist, I am unable to be a good person, because the only yardstick YOU have to define being good is your religion?
So by definition, if you were deprived of the teachings of whatever dogma you follow, you would be an evil person, not because of what you do, but because you don't do it to follow that particular dogma's idea of "good"?
This atheist defines "good" as treating others with the deserved modicum of respect and care.
An atheist can also define "good" by whatever standards they feel is correct.
This is the difference between us, I take responsibility for my definition of "good". You, your lot, (and by "your lot" I mean, the witch burners, aborigine torturers, jet plane into high rise building fliers, you're all the same to me), think that as long as you can take a holiday from responsibility by passing it up to some "higher being" / (voices in some camel drivers head / revelations made by a sci-fi author to make money) you're perfectly justified in not being very damned "good" AT ALL!!
As an atheist I'm mentally grown up enough to make my own decisions and "spiritually" grown up enough to accept the consequences for them, without looking for some ethereal being to give me a free pass from being just another creature that dies and fades away because I claim to be "sorry" for not being "good".
As far as I'm concerned, spam is the electronic equivalent of rape.
He should have his internal organs slowly hacked out and be force fed his own warm pulsating liver until he chokes while being sodomized with a sledgehammer.
Christ, how I hate spam
The Sproggg
Compact Oxford English Dictionary
:)
obtuse
adjective 1 annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand. 2 (of an angle) more than 90 and less than 180. 3 not sharp-pointed or sharp-edged; blunt.
Meaning 3) intended.
Commonly used to describe something not immediately easy to grasp.
Quote to illustrate:
"We always wanted more than one level. We never want to be obtuse or put things in code. We've always wanted to communicate and be accessible."
Tina Weymouth
But I'll concur, I should have used 'unclear'.
The Sproggg
Cavemen started out MANY millions of years after the last dinosaurs bit the dust. :)
Even Kansasian dinosaurs
Scary thing is.. I agree with you.
I'd fuckoff in an instant if I didn't have so much invested here (family, time as well as money).
First step in solving a problem is admitting it exists...... :)
BTW
North of the Sahara ain't doing so fookin great either...
Why not build a big wall around ALL of Africa, it's just one big homogenous country anyways innit?
PS:
With the building materials left over, you might consider the middle east and eastern Europe, a load of those annoying Pacific militant states...Russia, them damn commie Chinese... flipflopping Australians....
Hang on, why not just build a wall around whichever utupia you're at.
Save some bricks that way....
The Sproggg
Insightful post.....
Are you suggesting that minus the natural resources, African countries would, on the whole, be as advanced and productive as say Japan (with FA extractable natural resources worth mentioning) ?
HEY!!
I'm south of the Sahara, you insensitive clod!
Hey I ain't donning any outfits either (I find they don't suit my fine physique).
I just wish people would stop halting any chain of logical reasoning / causal insight for the sake of political correctness.
The black leaders in Africa are (with a very few notable exceptions) exceedingly crap at ruling their own people to the benefit of anyone but themselves and a select group of cronies.
Is this endemic to African culture?
Is this endemic to post colonialist culture?
Is this a symptom of a people thrust from (barely) iron age into a industrial aged world without the benefit of several thousand years worth of social evolution that Europeans underwent?
I really don't know, and any or none of the above questions may hold some truth.
I do however have a problem with people insisting I can't ask the questions because that makes me prejudiced...
I ask the questions ENTIRELY because I'm POSTjudiced and am judging much of African culture from the 'coal face' (or the firing line, pick your metaphor).
Once we understand the problem, we can go about fixing it.
Not being allowed to investigate the problem means we will never fix it, and millions of people will live in abject misery and privation.
Logic and truth should be allowed to regain their rightful places as the tillers guiding human destiny.
All this other crap is beginning to get on my nerves.
The Sproggg
I stand corrected.
:)
Thank you for your input, seriously.
Thank you infinitely more for re-inforcing my point
The Sproggg
Nope
Your missing where the parent is coming from, though I'll admit it is a bit obtuse..
Looky:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
ODF is zipped xml, neither of which is likely to get superseded / outdated / made incompatible for a while:
1) XML is human readable (Sorta, kinda, mostly)
2) ZIP (tm) is widely used by countless libs and apps, and decompression has been reverse engineered, open sourced, dissected, inspected, and neglected (Apologies to Arlo Guthry) to death.
Writing an application to open an ODF file in the future should not be a problem, unlike this article's messy scenario.....
The Sproggg
...."
lease name country in Africa that is not fucked up.
South Africa is about the best I could come up with"....
Yep
And South Africa is also the last country to abolish white (minority) rule.........
Co-incidence?
YOU decide...
Exactly, they should have sent Microsoft to hell and died the noble and inevitable Suse death they were postponing.
After all
THIS IS SPARTA!!
http://www.preworx.com/
............"Fundamentally, a database server that takes connections over TCP/IP ought to be secure enough to expose on the public internet"........
Nope nope nopity nope.
The issue is not with a secure (or otherwise) port being exposed to the internet, the real security issue is the question of where has business logic just been moved?
REGARDLESS of whether the database server listenes on port 35530, has super duper extra strength nine fafillion bit crypto (now with more caffiene!!! (tm) ) and only accepts connections from your permanently manned shell server in Bratislava.
YOU (as in your server) should be in charge of ALL the logic that determines whether data from a client machine is valid data.
Putting ANY tier execpt a resticted presentation tier on ANY machine outside of your direct control and audit is an invitation for someone (and experience teaches, someone that business has explicitly granted access), to fsck with the data going to the database.
Next thing you know, some guy from the mailroom is driving a Bugatti in the Bahamas, and you get called to a board meeting with nothing but your dick and your oh so nifty firewall ruleset printout in your hand.
Simple, no?
The Sproggg
How many christians does it take to change a light bulb?
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ZERO, they just wait thousands of years for the old one to come back to life...
I was on morphine for 72 hours (I know it doesn't compare) after a series of skin grafts. The multiple compound fractures that turned all the bones in my lower right leg into an advanced level jigsaw puzzle felt like a massage from an 18 year old Thai hooker compared to those frikken skin grafts.
I absolutely second your opinion, the morphine just makes you not give a shit about the pain, you're very aware that its still there.
PS.
Good luck with the treatment and all that.
Sproggg
Hahahahahaa
Dumbass.
I don't normally revel in other's pain, but that was hilarious!
I happen to like the slight citrusy flavour of habaneros, and grow red savinas for cooking.
Because capsaicin (what makes peppers hot) is a hydrocarbon, it's not soluble in water.
In fact, water just washes away the saliva, which at least has some enzymes which help, it also ensures the heat gets spread ALL over in the inside of your mouth.... fizzy drinks (esp coke) are even worse!
Have some milk, frozen yogurt or better yet a high alcohol content shooter (tequila anyone? but vodka works fine) to wash the heat out your mouth (and into your stomach, where it becomes tomorrows problem).
Regards
Chillihead Sproggg
Thems the hotkeys for revolving the screen on my Dell.
THANKS a FRIKKEN TON!!!!!!!!!
How the hell.......