According to Wikipedia's Punter entry, "In colloquial British English, a term that is analgous to a customer of a business. This usage has its roots as a derogatory reference to amateur horse-racing gamblers, but is now neutrally applied as a collective term for customers of any business."
So, it means "customer" -- something more than just "dude" (bloke).
"you can tell them that it was God / Jesus who brought you there"
Yes, exactly. You can tell them that it was God who sent the hurricanes into the Gulf. God is responsible for the devistation you see around you... right? Right?
Instead of spreading ignorance and complacency (theism), why dont you convince them to take responsibility for themselves and their community's future.
"is likely to" reflects the measured confidence of a considered person.
in short, this is a conversation for adults, not reactionaries. who ever wrote this is obviously out of his league in such a discussion (as am I. IANAMeterologist)
DEFINITION: This form of attack on the person notes that a person does not practise what he preaches. This fallacy is committed when it is concluded that a person's claim is false because 1) it is inconsistent with something else a person has said or 2) what a person says is inconsistent with her actions. This type of "argument" has the following form:
1. Person A makes claim X. 2. Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X. 3. Therefore X is false.
The fact that a person makes inconsistent claims does not make any particular claim he makes false (although of any pair of inconsistent claims only one can be true - but both can be false). Also, the fact that a person's claims are not consistent with his actions might indicate that the person is a hypocrite, but this does not prove his claims are false.
EXAMPLE: "You are making a stance that I shouldn't attack Kirk. But you say bad things about Picard all the time!"
PROOF: Identify the attack and show that it has nothing to do with the truth or falsity of the proposition being defended.
Anthropogenic Global warming is a reality. From The American Association for the Advancement of Science's Journal Science "Human activities... are modifying the concentration of atmospheric constituents... that absorb or scatter radiant energy.... Most of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations"
Global Warming causes sea-surface temperatures to rise. From NASA: ""There has been a strong warming trend over the past 30 years, a trend that has been shown to be due primarily to increasing greenhouse gases in the atmosphere" Special Multimedia Bonus Goodness!
Sea-surface energy fuel hurricanes From Nasa: "Hurricane winds are sustained by the heat energy of the ocean, so the ocean is cooled as the hurricane passes and the energy is extracted to power the winds.
Do you have a link to said high=powered IR LEDs? Though there are no traffic control cameras in my municipality, there are plenty of street/sidewalk facing security cameras. Owned by the municipal security and by private security.
A few of these LEDs mounted on my scooter and my car would cause some general discomfort and disruption of their operations...
It would bring me great pleasure to drive around knowing that any security observers would start a "What the hell was that" investigation for no reason.
Heck, if you want to be a total nerd, put a bundle on your backpack.
sign me up. i just want some fun games i can play in the living room with friends. Im not interested in the arms-race mode of gaming being played by Sony - Xbox (at high prices). Hopefully this console fits with nintento's pattern of being more reasonably priced.
though, from the video, I can see this being a little tiring.
Attention USA parents: Buy your kids a NRevolution to keep them from lying on the couch getting fat!
"So the Anti-Occupation Freedom Fighters can't shoot at it?"
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter pal. And the Iraqi's trying to displace US occupation and its puppet government sounds like a Freeom Fighter to me.
"The key to international security is to show that you are willing to fight those who threaten you, otherwise your weakness is going to be exploited for all it's worth until it's too late for you to do anything but go to war."
as told by an uncomprimising american bully incapable of understanding anything other than violence.
"You never solve anything with violence" is not only true, but a lesson you should learn.
You spend 95% of your life at two places. Home and Work.
What would possess you to live so far away? Time to start thinking about living closer to work -- your car is an unimagined luxury, and your not going to have that leisure for long...
the Chinease and Indians might like lightbulbs and concrete floors for their huts -- thats going to take PLENTY of gas. Your going to compete in the international marketplace for that oil.
What do you think its going to cost you to drive your existing car 30miles in 15, 25, 35 years? What do you think that drive is going to look like? 5 passenger, steel, 4x4 suv that gets 15mpg -- or a 40mph golf-cart? I'll bet the latter.
Great for little towns where its 20mph or less, but if you hold up traffic then they are in the wrong place.
Sorry. Your right to use the public streets, at unsafe speeds (yes, 50km is unsafe enough to kill you, a pedestrian or someone else you hit..).
My 20km electric car has every right on the public roadway as your speeding death-machine.
I ride a bike in a poorly planned, sprawling Canadian city of 350,000 (metro) all year. I have a good job and pay plenty of taxes -- im becoming VERY of people rushing up to my rear, honking, driving agressive, passing-within-feet, trying to cut me off, telling me to get-the-&@(*Q#-onto-the-sidewalk (and other colorfull instruction), having crap thrown at me (batteries, pennies, garbage), etc etc etc.
In case you hadnt noticed, gas was getting expensive. It is NEVER going to be inexpensive again - never never never. I ride my bike as a altruistic measure to lessen the burden on the planet and am harrassed.
While auto-driving-wasters -- responsible for unmeasurable pollution, injuries, expense -- feel a self-rightious sense of entitlement to municipal planning and infrastructure.
The Auto-age is dead. The sooner you come to realize that these niche market GEMs are not *HOLDING UP TRAFFIC* but improving your communities standard of living, the better off we'll all be.
Oh, speaking of pain in the ass, invading foreign lands to control the oil supply is a bit of a bother too isnt it? what about the US$450Billion price tag?
If 3' x 3' sat images are readily avail. today, who thinks the US military doesnt have higher res. versions available to them -- but kept secret.
Heck, whole air-plane projects are occassionaly declassified.
Im not suggesting (as the poster suggested) that they are keeping ANTI-grav a secret, but make no mistake, they have plenty of VERY high tech kept under wraps.
Take alook at the highspeed options in Asia and Europe, monopolies can provide more widely available service, at better speeds.
The same is true of wireless. US wireless is feeble and disorganized compared to other industrial areas. Why? Because there are incentives OTHER than providing service to the customers. Vendors have "screwing your competitors" and "implementing your strategic partner's tech standard" as a non-customer-centric deliverable (eek).
Non profit utility monpolies are a good thing. As an exercise for the reader; Consider health care a utility and compare USA cost/delivery vs. Europe/Canada/Australia/Asian cost/delivery...
What I was referring to was the fact that the President holds his religious beliefs above all else even when it might not be in the best interests of the country he presides over.
I believe The President, Senate and Reps, arent all telling the truth about what they believe.
These are incredibly rich and connected people, they dont happen on these places by chance. Most all have extraordinary educations and are by no means "stupid" people.
Like most other educated and intelligent people, I believe that there is a greater proportion that are atheist -- even though almost uniformly they claim to be theist.
Why? Simply, like all polititicans (members of the rulling plutocratic establishment) they do what is expedient and necessary to retain/gain power.
With 85% of the american public self-professed theists, what is a Politician to do? They need to get elected. You dont get elected by challenging the dearly held fantasies of the public. You dont challenge their basic world-view. That would be suicide.
So, in short, American Politians lie about their religosity inorder to exploit the ignorant masses.
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According to Wikipedia's Punter entry, "In colloquial British English, a term that is analgous to a customer of a business. This usage has its roots as a derogatory reference to amateur horse-racing gamblers, but is now neutrally applied as a collective term for customers of any business."
So, it means "customer" -- something more than just "dude" (bloke).
Amen.
Cradle-to-Cradle manufacturer responsibility.
"you can tell them that it was God / Jesus who brought you there"
Yes, exactly. You can tell them that it was God who sent the hurricanes into the Gulf. God is responsible for the devistation you see around you... right? Right?
Instead of spreading ignorance and complacency (theism), why dont you convince them to take responsibility for themselves and their community's future.
we have a winner.
a joke:
The old manager, on his way out of his old office, with his possessions in a box hands Three Envelopes to his successor.
Old Manager says "here, this is all you need to know. When you get in a jam, just open these envelopes in order; #1,#2,#3."
New Manager moves in chugs along for a few months and then runs into a jam with his superiors. They are upset about performance/output whatever.
He thinks, "AHAH! I'll open one of the Envelopes!". He opens #1, in it a paper says "Re-organize".
He says "AHAH!" and proceeds to shuffle staff for 12 months. Make org charts and take synergy meetings.
New Manager chugs along for a few months and then runs into a jam with his superiors. They are upset about performance/output whatever.
He thinks, "AHAH! I'll open one of the Envelopes!". He opens #2, in it a paper says "Re-organize".
He says "AHAH!" and proceeds to shuffle staff for 12 months. Make org charts and take synergy meetings.
New Manager chugs along for a few months and then runs into a jam with his superiors. They are upset about performance/output whatever.
He thinks, "AHAH! I'll open one of the Envelopes!".
He opens #3, in it a paper says "Get three envelopes...".
Speaking of Hunter-Killer dolphins. This is more funny than you thought?
"is likely to" reflects the measured confidence of a considered person.
in short, this is a conversation for adults, not reactionaries. who ever wrote this is obviously out of his league in such a discussion (as am I. IANAMeterologist)
Where did you copy and paste that from?
regarding anthropogenic climate change; there is no debate. the aggregate are certain it is happening.
anti-science propaganda by the plutocratic status-quo is funding propaganda to present the appearance of "debate".
read the first link.
Ad Hominem (tu quoque):
DEFINITION: This form of attack on the person notes that a person does not practise what he preaches. This fallacy is committed when it is concluded that a person's claim is false because 1) it is inconsistent with something else a person has said or 2) what a person says is inconsistent with her actions. This type of "argument" has the following form:
1. Person A makes claim X.
2. Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
3. Therefore X is false.
The fact that a person makes inconsistent claims does not make any particular claim he makes false (although of any pair of inconsistent claims only one can be true - but both can be false). Also, the fact that a person's claims are not consistent with his actions might indicate that the person is a hypocrite, but this does not prove his claims are false.
EXAMPLE: "You are making a stance that I shouldn't attack Kirk. But you say bad things about Picard all the time!"
PROOF: Identify the attack and show that it has nothing to do with the truth or falsity of the proposition being defended.
Anthropogenic Global warming is a reality. ... are modifying the concentration of atmospheric constituents ... that absorb or scatter radiant energy. ... Most of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations"
From The American Association for the Advancement of Science's Journal Science
"Human activities
Global Warming causes sea-surface temperatures to rise.
From NASA:
""There has been a strong warming trend over the past 30 years, a trend that has been shown to be due primarily to increasing greenhouse gases in the atmosphere"
Special Multimedia Bonus Goodness!
Sea-surface energy fuel hurricanes
From Nasa:
"Hurricane winds are sustained by the heat energy of the ocean, so the ocean is cooled as the hurricane passes and the energy is extracted to power the winds.
PROFIT!
HMmmm.
Do you have a link to said high=powered IR LEDs? Though there are no traffic control cameras in my municipality, there are plenty of street/sidewalk facing security cameras. Owned by the municipal security and by private security.
A few of these LEDs mounted on my scooter and my car would cause some general discomfort and disruption of their operations...
It would bring me great pleasure to drive around knowing that any security observers would start a "What the hell was that" investigation for no reason.
Heck, if you want to be a total nerd, put a bundle on your backpack.
sign me up. i just want some fun games i can play in the living room with friends. Im not interested in the arms-race mode of gaming being played by Sony - Xbox (at high prices). Hopefully this console fits with nintento's pattern of being more reasonably priced.
though, from the video, I can see this being a little tiring.
Attention USA parents: Buy your kids a NRevolution to keep them from lying on the couch getting fat!
"So the insurgents can't shoot at it?"
Here, let me de-propagandize that for ya:
"So the Anti-Occupation Freedom Fighters can't shoot at it?"
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter pal. And the Iraqi's trying to displace US occupation and its puppet government sounds like a Freeom Fighter to me.
It is *NOT* a crime to protest.
It *IS* illegal for cops to club people.
It *IS* torture!"
If someone commits a crime (say, smashing a window) -- and a cop witnesses it -- that alone is not cause to legally club them. Get it?
The cop has to be defending the public or herself.
Are you really this fucking stupid?
"I wouldn't want my mom to be billy clubbed during a protest either, but that doesn't make it illegal, and it certainly doesn't make it torture."
Please re-read your statement.
It is not a crime to be at (or participate in) a protest. And, It *IS* illegal for cops to club people! It *IS* torture!
Are you that fucking stupid?
"The key to international security is to show that you are willing to fight those who threaten you, otherwise your weakness is going to be exploited for all it's worth until it's too late for you to do anything but go to war."
as told by an uncomprimising american bully incapable of understanding anything other than violence.
"You never solve anything with violence" is not only true, but a lesson you should learn.
I wouldn't want my mom to be billy clubbed during a protest either, but that doesn't make it illegal, and it certainly doesn't make it torture.
Wow. You are fucked pal.
It *IS* illegal for cops to club people! It *IS* torture!
torture:
Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.
Your murerous, ignorant, lying, corrupt Government -- and its nuklur-arms bravado -- is Stuff That Matters.
Tired of looking like fools for supporting the international plutocracy? Try removing the corrupt log-jam in Washington.
And no, that doesnt mean "choose between two centrist republicrats".
Start with a Democracy sure -- the longest journey begins with a single step -- but for Fuck's sake, do something before these idiots start WWIII.
The USA has been pushing this Monroe-doctrine, Manifest-Destiney, single-super-power BS for 20 years now.
Be carefull before you end up playing Germany in WWIII.
I'll see your market demands and raise you a falling supply coupled with increased demand.
You spend 95% of your life at two places. Home and Work.
What would possess you to live so far away? Time to start thinking about living closer to work -- your car is an unimagined luxury, and your not going to have that leisure for long...
the Chinease and Indians might like lightbulbs and concrete floors for their huts -- thats going to take PLENTY of gas. Your going to compete in the international marketplace for that oil.
What do you think its going to cost you to drive your existing car 30miles in 15, 25, 35 years? What do you think that drive is going to look like? 5 passenger, steel, 4x4 suv that gets 15mpg -- or a 40mph golf-cart? I'll bet the latter.
Great for little towns where its 20mph or less, but if you hold up traffic then they are in the wrong place.
Sorry. Your right to use the public streets, at unsafe speeds (yes, 50km is unsafe enough to kill you, a pedestrian or someone else you hit..).
My 20km electric car has every right on the public roadway as your speeding death-machine.
I ride a bike in a poorly planned, sprawling Canadian city of 350,000 (metro) all year. I have a good job and pay plenty of taxes -- im becoming VERY of people rushing up to my rear, honking, driving agressive, passing-within-feet, trying to cut me off, telling me to get-the-&@(*Q#-onto-the-sidewalk (and other colorfull instruction), having crap thrown at me (batteries, pennies, garbage), etc etc etc.
In case you hadnt noticed, gas was getting expensive. It is NEVER going to be inexpensive again - never never never. I ride my bike as a altruistic measure to lessen the burden on the planet and am harrassed.
While auto-driving-wasters -- responsible for unmeasurable pollution, injuries, expense -- feel a self-rightious sense of entitlement to municipal planning and infrastructure.
The Auto-age is dead. The sooner you come to realize that these niche market GEMs are not *HOLDING UP TRAFFIC* but improving your communities standard of living, the better off we'll all be.
Oh, speaking of pain in the ass, invading foreign lands to control the oil supply is a bit of a bother too isnt it? what about the US$450Billion price tag?
Thats just a _little_ more of a pain -- maybe?
Dont laugh at this.
If 3' x 3' sat images are readily avail. today, who thinks the US military doesnt have higher res. versions available to them -- but kept secret.
Heck, whole air-plane projects are occassionaly declassified.
Im not suggesting (as the poster suggested) that they are keeping ANTI-grav a secret, but make no mistake, they have plenty of VERY high tech kept under wraps.
Hammers dont really cost $1200 you know...
Take alook at the highspeed options in Asia and Europe, monopolies can provide more widely available service, at better speeds.
The same is true of wireless. US wireless is feeble and disorganized compared to other industrial areas. Why? Because there are incentives OTHER than providing service to the customers. Vendors have "screwing your competitors" and "implementing your strategic partner's tech standard" as a non-customer-centric deliverable (eek).
Non profit utility monpolies are a good thing. As an exercise for the reader; Consider health care a utility and compare USA cost/delivery vs. Europe/Canada/Australia/Asian cost/delivery...
Competition isnt all its cracked up to be.
What I was referring to was the fact that the President holds his religious beliefs above all else even when it might not be in the best interests of the country he presides over.
I believe The President, Senate and Reps, arent all telling the truth about what they believe.
These are incredibly rich and connected people, they dont happen on these places by chance. Most all have extraordinary educations and are by no means "stupid" people.
Like most other educated and intelligent people, I believe that there is a greater proportion that are atheist -- even though almost uniformly they claim to be theist.
Why? Simply, like all polititicans (members of the rulling plutocratic establishment) they do what is expedient and necessary to retain/gain power.
With 85% of the american public self-professed theists, what is a Politician to do? They need to get elected. You dont get elected by challenging the dearly held fantasies of the public. You dont challenge their basic world-view. That would be suicide.
So, in short, American Politians lie about their religosity inorder to exploit the ignorant masses.
Please mod +1 Insightful.
thank-you.
The HR & Quality mottos in my firm;
You cant spell wHo caRes without HR.
We put the K in Kuality.