These Yankee Group pricks are better at intellectual dishonesty, propaganda and manipulation than you or I are... dont think for a second that they arent wise enough to inspire the community to attack their attackers.
Dont let them muddy the debate with this propaganda. They have been charged with biased analysis. And their response? From the article, to wit: "There's an extremist fringe of Linux loonies"
This is cut and dry nonsense.
Semantic Propaganda Unspecified Adjective (sub-category of Deletion) "The extreme views of many of the campaigners..."
Cognitive Propaganda Labelling (eg repetitive name-calling; dismissing something via label, or emotional trigger-word). "Terrorist", "anti-American", "appeaser", etc.
These types are INCREDIBLY sophisticated liars. Dont let them wiggle away from the charges with this nonsense.
Could a video camera be rigged to do this 'live'? If you attached a video camera to the back of the screen, could you pipe the video (some 'reduced' frame of the wider shot to the destkop XWindow. Heck an IR-based-distance-to-wall hack connected to serial that tells you just what proper subset of the video you need (10ft to wall=all the live-video-frame, 1ft to wall=just center 10% of frame scalled to full background window)..
im not an uber-hacker, but i imagine some one who *is* could put this together in an hour or three..?
Im a straight Candian atheist (thank god). But for the sake of argument, lets say Im a Gay American (theist/atheist not really relevant here..)
Your comment:
the Mormon church organized a massive door-to-door campaign to try to deny the gays their right to marry.
Your parent poster said "except where a serious moral issue is involved", which this is.
Is grossly wrong. This isnt a Moral Issue at all. It is a legal issue. A legal issue that has been decided. You cannot grant special privilage (the privilages aforded the married) based on sexual orientation. Get it? This is a CONSTITUTIONAL issue for you yanks.
Straights cant grant themselves privilage and exclude people because they are not straight. Get it?
What I (as the hypothetical gay yank) do as an adult, at my home is my business. But for you to write law that excludes me because I am not straight is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
I repeat, this is not a moral issue at all - its a constitutional law issue. My (hypothetical) morals are none of your business; See: Liberty.
Painting it as anything else is homophobic propaganda.
To paraphrase; You keep your Theist Morality out of my Law, and I'll keep my Law out of your Theist Morality. Again, please see: Liberty (and maybe diversity and tolerance).
In closing, I am reminded of The Wisdom of The Simpsons:
Kid: But why can't we just make a law against %BEHAVIOUR%?
Amendment: Because that law would be unconstitutional.
But if we changed the Constitution...
Kid: Then we could make all sorts of crazy laws!
Amendment: Now you're catching on!
It wont be long until american fundies are burning down Science Centers and Museums because they refuse to include theist teachings. mobs will come and miscreants will sneak in the night.
Most drivers have a nasty feature of driving less than a pure-electric's range every day. Also, most drivers have a nasty feature of living in an urban area who can very easily walk or bike for their errands.
I rather like the 'futuristic dwarf hearse' look. Maybe its just me, but I like change, I like giving the designers a little more room-to-move. Heck, it is really just a pile-of-function, I dont really care what it looks like frankly.
Only Honda and Toyota are serious about hybrids' advantages. By putting them in small cars, they are able to make super efficient autos. Ford on the other hand, had to put it in an ego-stroking pile of urban 4x4. Totally stupid car to drive in any incarnation.
And GM, well, they dont have a hybrid vehicle at all. I'll leave the googling up to you, but try and discover what/how GM's current "hybrid" is differnt from the others....
Ford, who has the Hybrid Escape gives the hybrid components a warranty for 8 years/100,000 miles. In the Green States of California, Massachusetts, Maine, New York, and Vermont the traction batteries are warranted for 10 years/150,000 miles.
Your Local PowerPlant gets far more energy from a unit of %RESOURCE% than your auto. Simple. No debate. INCLUDING the line losses, its still far more efficient to burn at the plant.
You can also retro-fit with new technology/new emmission controls at a single plant far more easily than you can 10,000 cars. The plant is maintained with 1 goal: make the most kw from a unit of %resource% -- your car however, is a rolling couch - few people car about how much their car pollutes.
Yes, an electric car moves the pollution -- it moves alot more OUT of the situation.
The problem that GM has is that, if a car is on the road, they are required to provide spare parts (either by manufacturing them or providing diagrams for third-party manufacturers)
Nonsense. Parts can be made in one-of manner. No trouble. Is it cheap? No. Im sure there is a way to legally get out of the 10-yr part obligation..
truth is, GM wants the EV1 off the road. The "Hydrogen Economy" fantasy is their new modus operendi to preserve the ICE status quo.
It is egotistical to think that anyones opinion has value based on its origin. your opinion is does not have value because it is yours, or have value because 'everyone is entitled to his opinion' -- your opinion may very well be both wrong and stupid, but perceiving value in it becaues it is 'yours' is egotistical.
Put in another way, when someone ends a conversation with "everyone is entitled to his own opinion", he has conceeded that only his ego gives his argument value.
"the main character would have to vocalise much of his thoughts" means voice-over. I rather like voiceovers, they provide content when other movies are letting the cinemetographer wank-off.
for instance, show a scene of our protagonist walking/eating etc to set some mood and voiceover some techincal plot elements.
To claim that one lifestyle is superior is hypocritical, egotistical, and superficial
Nonsense. Tell me, which lifestyle is superior, the life lead by Ghandi or Hitler?
The truth is, it is egotistical to think that your own choices are as equal as anyone else's. Pop culture encourages people to be self centered and self possessed not contemplative and giving. This is due to many things (IMHO); consumerism, religion and technology's effects on our character. There are many opinions, but only one set of facts. We might not know them, but their is only a single truth.
People can choose to lead more virtuous (good, caring, giving, wise, nurturing) lifestyles and yes, it does make a person 'better'. Nihilism isnt an indifferent outlook on life ("one lifestyle isnt better or worse than others") it is antisocial.
I personally choose to deny myself. I assault dogmatic convention. I share and sacrifice. I give to my community. Why? Because it makes me a good person. My lifestyle is superior to those who do not that which I do. Im not Ghandi, but I aspire to be more like him. I dont have dillusions of grandeur, I just want to use my brief life in a worthwhile way. I could sit at home drunk, mastrubating and playing video games -- would my time be better spent shoveling snow for my elderly neighbour? Its not ego or superficiality. Pleasing oneself is acceptable, its a matter of cost. From what perspective are you willing to take to derive "cost"? You may have the intellectual capacity to consider wide impacts. You may not... I dont blame those tho do not. But to realize your impacts ("It is ok to steal bread from the homeless so I can buy a motorcylce - who cares if he dies") and ignore them is wrong. Yes virginia, there is a right and wrong.
Your black and white worldview -- to please yourself, all else be damned -- is inferior. It brings misery to those around you. It makes you and dishonest memeber of your community. Everyone must consider the external ramifications of her actions.
BTW, Complex texts are superior. To wit;
She should have died hereafter; There would have been a time for such a word. To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow, Creeps in this petty pace from day to day To the last syllable of recorded time, And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player That struts and frets his hour upon the stage And then is heard no more: it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.
or
I like pie.
Granted they have a different purpose, but is the world richer for the former or latter?
Total and utter nonsense. The "UN is bureaucratic" meme is created -- in the US halls of power -- to undermine International Democracy.
The UN is being 'ignored' by the one nation who hopes to supplant it. This nation, is willfully invading foreign ones and denouncing the mechanisms/structures that would accomplish the same goals *without* killing tens of thousands of innocents.
with oversight from democratically-elected governments. In particular, the Chinese government and other repressive regimes can stay the hell away from internet regulation.
Why exactly should only "Democratic" nations be able to participate?
The "UN is bureaucratic" is Neocon dogma to undermine the conecept of International Democracy. International Democracy is wastefull. Socaialism is wastefull. International Democracy is Socialism. International Democracy -- like Socialism -- is bad and Un'Merican.
The UN, State Administration and Private Enterprise are *ALL* bureauacratic when they scale up. I work for a Fortune _5_ company, and the idea that private enterprise is dynamic, resourcefull or naturally-waste-removing is utter nonsense. A big organization is chaotic.
If OPEC begins to trade in Euro, shifting oil trade away from USDollar it will flush out international reserves.
If China doesnt revalue its dollar, and continues the present fixed-peg. Your dollar sinks.
If your dollar makes a mad dash southward, look out. Some of these other nations might just find a Fire-Sale on America quite attractive. Remember, rampant military spending only bankrupt the USSR *first*... I wont hold my breath for the USA learning the lesson.
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Rule #1 for Hardball politics:
Divide and conquer.
These Yankee Group pricks are better at intellectual dishonesty, propaganda and manipulation than you or I are... dont think for a second that they arent wise enough to inspire the community to attack their attackers.
Dont let them muddy the debate with this propaganda. They have been charged with biased analysis. And their response? From the article, to wit: "There's an extremist fringe of Linux loonies"
This is cut and dry nonsense.
Semantic Propaganda
Unspecified Adjective (sub-category of Deletion)
"The extreme views of many of the campaigners..."
Cognitive Propaganda
Labelling (eg repetitive name-calling; dismissing something via label, or emotional trigger-word).
"Terrorist", "anti-American", "appeaser", etc.
These types are INCREDIBLY sophisticated liars. Dont let them wiggle away from the charges with this nonsense.
is there a way to have your account 'auto-login'?
Could a video camera be rigged to do this 'live'? If you attached a video camera to the back of the screen, could you pipe the video (some 'reduced' frame of the wider shot to the destkop XWindow. Heck an IR-based-distance-to-wall hack connected to serial that tells you just what proper subset of the video you need (10ft to wall=all the live-video-frame, 1ft to wall=just center 10% of frame scalled to full background window)..
im not an uber-hacker, but i imagine some one who *is* could put this together in an hour or three..?
Im a straight Candian atheist (thank god). But for the sake of argument, lets say Im a Gay American (theist/atheist not really relevant here..)
Your comment:
the Mormon church organized a massive door-to-door campaign to try to deny the gays their right to marry.
Your parent poster said "except where a serious moral issue is involved", which this is.
Is grossly wrong. This isnt a Moral Issue at all. It is a legal issue. A legal issue that has been decided. You cannot grant special privilage (the privilages aforded the married) based on sexual orientation. Get it? This is a CONSTITUTIONAL issue for you yanks.
Straights cant grant themselves privilage and exclude people because they are not straight. Get it?
What I (as the hypothetical gay yank) do as an adult, at my home is my business. But for you to write law that excludes me because I am not straight is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
I repeat, this is not a moral issue at all - its a constitutional law issue. My (hypothetical) morals are none of your business; See: Liberty.
Painting it as anything else is homophobic propaganda.
To paraphrase; You keep your Theist Morality out of my Law, and I'll keep my Law out of your Theist Morality. Again, please see: Liberty (and maybe diversity and tolerance).
In closing, I am reminded of The Wisdom of The Simpsons:
Kid: But why can't we just make a law against %BEHAVIOUR%?
Amendment: Because that law would be unconstitutional.
But if we changed the Constitution...
Kid: Then we could make all sorts of crazy laws!
Amendment: Now you're catching on!
didnt restart - my dumb mistake. thanks -- looks like a great tool.
ive created an account, logged in and dloaded the extension.
how do you create bookmarks?
how do you access them?
do you have to use the web-form, or does the extension allow you to submit them?
further, can you create a live-bookmark of your chimparks?
It wont be long until american fundies are burning down Science Centers and Museums because they refuse to include theist teachings. mobs will come and miscreants will sneak in the night.
mark my words. im not joking.
How about Americans renowned jingoism? Its myopia? Its refusal to look outside its borders -- with honesty?
You have a middle class playground, with little real hardship for most, who are encouraged to believe in american infallibility.
The same memes that foster neocon Manifest Destiny are the ones that are utilized to create fundies.
Youve got to turn your TVs off and engage in some self-criticism. Until you do, your going to see this behaviour blossom.
about your .sig
does the free ipod or free ds/gc/ps2/xb require that the 'referrals' BUY and PAY for anything?
can they sign up for something at $0, then cancel before they get any charges?
Most drivers have a nasty feature of driving less than a pure-electric's range every day. Also, most drivers have a nasty feature of living in an urban area who can very easily walk or bike for their errands.
I rather like the 'futuristic dwarf hearse' look. Maybe its just me, but I like change, I like giving the designers a little more room-to-move. Heck, it is really just a pile-of-function, I dont really care what it looks like frankly.
Only Honda and Toyota are serious about hybrids' advantages. By putting them in small cars, they are able to make super efficient autos. Ford on the other hand, had to put it in an ego-stroking pile of urban 4x4. Totally stupid car to drive in any incarnation.
And GM, well, they dont have a hybrid vehicle at all. I'll leave the googling up to you, but try and discover what/how GM's current "hybrid" is differnt from the others....
Not True.
w .asp?ModelName=Civic+Hybrid
i d.htm
Honda, currently has 3 hybrids gives its battery pack comes with an 8-year/80,000-mile warranty.
http://automobiles.honda.com/models/model_overvie
Ford, who has the Hybrid Escape gives the hybrid components a warranty for 8 years/100,000 miles. In the Green States of California, Massachusetts, Maine, New York, and Vermont the traction batteries are warranted for 10 years/150,000 miles.
http://www.gulfcoastnews.com/RT2005FordEscapeHybr
Do you ever wonder where that hydrogen will come from?
Your Local PowerPlant gets far more energy from a unit of %RESOURCE% than your auto. Simple. No debate. INCLUDING the line losses, its still far more efficient to burn at the plant.
You can also retro-fit with new technology/new emmission controls at a single plant far more easily than you can 10,000 cars. The plant is maintained with 1 goal: make the most kw from a unit of %resource% -- your car however, is a rolling couch - few people car about how much their car pollutes.
Yes, an electric car moves the pollution -- it moves alot more OUT of the situation.
If you dont agree -- do your own damn googling.
The problem that GM has is that, if a car is on the road, they are required to provide spare parts (either by manufacturing them or providing diagrams for third-party manufacturers)
Nonsense. Parts can be made in one-of manner. No trouble. Is it cheap? No. Im sure there is a way to legally get out of the 10-yr part obligation..
truth is, GM wants the EV1 off the road. The "Hydrogen Economy" fantasy is their new modus operendi to preserve the ICE status quo.
Read thisbook.
Disclosure: I work for the OTHER big American Auto Co.
It is egotistical to think that anyones opinion has value based on its origin. your opinion is does not have value because it is yours, or have value because 'everyone is entitled to his opinion' -- your opinion may very well be both wrong and stupid, but perceiving value in it becaues it is 'yours' is egotistical.
Put in another way, when someone ends a conversation with "everyone is entitled to his own opinion", he has conceeded that only his ego gives his argument value.
"the main character would have to vocalise much of his thoughts" means voice-over. I rather like voiceovers, they provide content when other movies are letting the cinemetographer wank-off.
for instance, show a scene of our protagonist walking/eating etc to set some mood and voiceover some techincal plot elements.
To claim that one lifestyle is superior is hypocritical, egotistical, and superficial
Nonsense. Tell me, which lifestyle is superior, the life lead by Ghandi or Hitler?
The truth is, it is egotistical to think that your own choices are as equal as anyone else's. Pop culture encourages people to be self centered and self possessed not contemplative and giving. This is due to many things (IMHO); consumerism, religion and technology's effects on our character. There are many opinions, but only one set of facts. We might not know them, but their is only a single truth.
People can choose to lead more virtuous (good, caring, giving, wise, nurturing) lifestyles and yes, it does make a person 'better'. Nihilism isnt an indifferent outlook on life ("one lifestyle isnt better or worse than others") it is antisocial.
I personally choose to deny myself. I assault dogmatic convention. I share and sacrifice. I give to my community. Why? Because it makes me a good person. My lifestyle is superior to those who do not that which I do. Im not Ghandi, but I aspire to be more like him. I dont have dillusions of grandeur, I just want to use my brief life in a worthwhile way. I could sit at home drunk, mastrubating and playing video games -- would my time be better spent shoveling snow for my elderly neighbour? Its not ego or superficiality. Pleasing oneself is acceptable, its a matter of cost. From what perspective are you willing to take to derive "cost"? You may have the intellectual capacity to consider wide impacts. You may not... I dont blame those tho do not. But to realize your impacts ("It is ok to steal bread from the homeless so I can buy a motorcylce - who cares if he dies") and ignore them is wrong. Yes virginia, there is a right and wrong.
Your black and white worldview -- to please yourself, all else be damned -- is inferior. It brings misery to those around you. It makes you and dishonest memeber of your community. Everyone must consider the external ramifications of her actions.
BTW, Complex texts are superior. To wit;
She should have died hereafter;
There would have been a time for such a word.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
or
I like pie.
Granted they have a different purpose, but is the world richer for the former or latter?
Ok;
I'll add Oryx and Crake by Margret Atwood.
Terrific book, much film potential.
Total and utter nonsense. The "UN is bureaucratic" meme is created -- in the US halls of power -- to undermine International Democracy.
The UN is being 'ignored' by the one nation who hopes to supplant it. This nation, is willfully invading foreign ones and denouncing the mechanisms/structures that would accomplish the same goals *without* killing tens of thousands of innocents.
Please turn off your TV - it's lying to you.
with oversight from democratically-elected governments. In particular, the Chinese government and other repressive regimes can stay the hell away from internet regulation.
Why exactly should only "Democratic" nations be able to participate?
The "UN is bureaucratic" is Neocon dogma to undermine the conecept of International Democracy. International Democracy is wastefull. Socaialism is wastefull. International Democracy is Socialism. International Democracy -- like Socialism -- is bad and Un'Merican.
The UN, State Administration and Private Enterprise are *ALL* bureauacratic when they scale up. I work for a Fortune _5_ company, and the idea that private enterprise is dynamic, resourcefull or naturally-waste-removing is utter nonsense. A big organization is chaotic.
hey mandate grass in open areas / trees with a trunk over 4 inces
Ive never heard of this. It is criminal.
If you want to start a fight, there are *ALOT* of offensive options that you could extort your neighbours with.
I have spend the first 5years of homeownership burying, removing and killing my lawn and other popularily cultivated plants.
they have all been replaced with stands of a variety of indigenous plants, shrubs, grasses and trees.
My brownstone-townhouse has a 'small' corner lot, but ive got mayapples, ferns, jackinpulpits, many trees, shrubs, etc etc etc etc.
not in a million years would i buy such stupidity. Im trying to diversify the plant life to support a greater diversity of insects, birds and animals.
This idea is as stupid as the moron who waters, fertilizes and mows his kentucky-blue-grass wasteland.
Absolute stupidity.
A preview of the world map after Bush starts his 3rd term.
Good luck with that plan.
If OPEC begins to trade in Euro, shifting oil trade away from USDollar it will flush out international reserves.
If China doesnt revalue its dollar, and continues the present fixed-peg. Your dollar sinks.
If your dollar makes a mad dash southward, look out. Some of these other nations might just find a Fire-Sale on America quite attractive. Remember, rampant military spending only bankrupt the USSR *first*... I wont hold my breath for the USA learning the lesson.
Its one hell of a risky prospect your betting on.