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Fan Group Creates Full-Length Discworld Movie

greenrd writes "'Almost No Budget Films,' a group of Terry Pratchett fans from Germany, recently finished a 9-month filming stint on a full-length dramatisation of pterry's novel 'Lords and Ladies.' A grand total of 300 euros were spent on this production, and all profits from this fan movie will go to the Orangutan Foundation. Check out the new English trailer for some grin-inducing special effects!"

261 comments

  1. Bandwidth Cost by Monx · · Score: 5, Funny

    And another 300 euros will be spent thanks to the direct video link on Slashdot.

    1. Re:Bandwidth Cost by UPi · · Score: 1

      Does anyone have a .torrent?

    2. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Wirr · · Score: 4, Informative
      And another 300 euros will be spent thanks to the direct video link on Slashdot.

      Unlikely, those links point to a university.
      If you see a link with uni-*.de it's always a university.

    3. Re:Bandwidth Cost by -brazil- · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, it's hosted on a university webserver, which means it's taxpayers' money...

      I've always considered "Lords and Ladies" to be the best of the discworld novels. If only Hollywood would get its act together and do a movie that does Pratchett's genious justice. I do have the British animated features, but to be honest, those look like only negligibly more than 300 EUR were spent...

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    4. Re:Bandwidth Cost by mboverload · · Score: 2, Insightful

      However, that bandwidth and server are alreayd paid for. A slashdoting does not cause one to spend anymore money, unless you are paying by the megabyte, which I doubt a university would do.

    5. Re:Bandwidth Cost by zalas · · Score: 1

      At Cornell University, you do not pay for bandwidth on your personal website that's hosted on their servers. However, if you run a server on your own computer, it contributes to the bandwidth cost of your Internet connection, which is 2GB included per month, plus ~$2 per GB over 2GB per month.

    6. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dunno about German Unis, but here in Britain we have to pay for international traffic (JANET means we don't pay for UK traffic, I believe)

    7. Re:Bandwidth Cost by akzeac · · Score: 1

      Yeah, too bad the server was blown to L-Space already.

    8. Re:Bandwidth Cost by krunk4ever · · Score: 0

      Students attending this university next semester will encounter a tuition increase tacked on as Technology Fee (aka Slashdot Effect).

    9. Re:Bandwidth Cost by nagora · · Score: 1
      I've always considered "Lords and Ladies" to be the best of the discworld novels.

      No, that would be "Nightwatch". Admittedly it needs the other 25 books standing behind it, but the power that gives the characters and the setting make Nightwatch one of the best fantasy books I've ever read. L&L's good, though.

      I do have the British animated features, but to be honest, those look like only negligibly more than 300 EUR were spent...

      The problem with those is there's no sense of timing in the delivery. It sounds as if everyone recorded their lines separately and the director just spliced them together. I know that's probably how it was done, but the art of directing an animation lies at least partly in hiding that fact.

      TWW

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    10. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello, this is Germany - universities can't just increase tuition.

    11. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Randy+Wang · · Score: 2, Informative

      Close enough: http://www.mirrordot.org/stories/392f69cfe950a8dd0 3dba199d9383e91/index.html

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    12. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    13. Re:Bandwidth Cost by mo^ · · Score: 1

      I dont believe there is discrimination on the basis of region. Just like a home connectiopn, once an establishment pays its annual subscription to JANET they have full internet connectivity.

      This is an annual payment based around the size of the organisation.

      Furthermore (with reference to a previous post) a large part of uni fees in europe (Germnay too) are paid by foreign (mostly oriental) students.

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    14. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So they will be kicked out of the *uni* to top it off ;-) Looks like great deal to me.

    15. Re:Bandwidth Cost by BjornVDM · · Score: 4, Informative
      You wrote:
      Furthermore (with reference to a previous post) a large part of uni fees in europe (Germnay too) are paid by foreign (mostly oriental) students.


      Clearly you have no knowledge of the german university system. Foreign students pay the exact same fees as german students - up until now only "administrative" fees of only a few hundred euros per semester (real tuition is only being phased in at the moment). Germany has thus for many years been probably the most affordable first world country for foreigners to study in. (Though their numbers have been kept comparably low as a result of german language requirements).
      I thus really resent your uninformed statement - especially after a recent experience of a friend being in a masters program in England with 80% chinese that paid high tuition, and even though they very much depressed the level of academic discourse of course all got their degrees. Talk about "mostly oriental" cash cows.

      Greetings, B.

      References: German academic exchange service: Lack of Tuition Fees in Germany a Big Draw for Foreign Students (04/04/2002)
    16. Re:Bandwidth Cost by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Terry Pratchett writes a book that's a better movie than Hollywood can make using an actual movie. It's amazing how he does it. It's a combination of pacing, dialog, humor and grand vision. I don't know what's more amazing, the fact that he can do it so well or the fact that he's maintained this style and skill through almost 20 years and 30 books.

      Sure, some Discworld books are better than others (and "Lords and Ladies" is in my top 3 for sure), but they are all good.

      I was re-re-rereading "Men at Arms" last night and enjoying (once again) translating Gargoyle speech. That and the French and Latin puns, brilliant and sharp satire, plus tons of believeable and funny and likeable characters, and a world as richly detailed as Tolkien's, combine to make the best fiction reading ever.

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    17. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And then of course there's Sweden, where everyone can go to university for free...including foreigners! Sure, they pay a lot of tax, but the end result is that they have a lot less crime, a very high percentage of literacy and education and free healthcare...resulting in the fact that the money they have left is nearly all discretionary (after food and rent).

      I really respect a system like that.

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    18. Re:Bandwidth Cost by tage · · Score: 2, Informative

      I really respect a system like that.

      Don't. I live in Sweden. I'm a Swede. Too much of my tax money is lost, paying for the enormous and inefficient administration of the system.

      I am a contractor and I have to expect 75% of the money I invoice to go to taxes and fees. No matter how much use I make of the free healthcare and education I can't get my money's worth. I don't mind contributing some to other people's healthcare and education through taxes, but not to this extent.

    19. Re:Bandwidth Cost by mo^ · · Score: 1

      I apologise

      The uni i work for works to what we call a "european model" (guess just internal bollcks then as opposed to a true european model) I must say i made some assumptions that most of the EC owrked relatively similar.

      The point of foreign students in the UK remains with me processing fees upwards of £20,000 for 1 year courses i am able to see first hand the discrepancies between them and the english students being paid for by my taxes who do fuck all and expect to be carried.

      Now im sure this can be argued with too, but thats the problem with anecdotal evidence.... we all have different anecdotes

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    20. Re:Bandwidth Cost by isecore · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, that's how it's SUPPOSED to work.

      Unfortunately that's not the reality. I live in Sweden and I pay HUMONGOUS taxes, yet every time I visit the doctor I have to pay a fee to visit him.

      In fact, ALL the things that are supposedly free (following the socialistic-system that you describe) still come with very vagely described fees that I have no choice but to pay.

      To summarize: This sucks.

      As far as the crimerate goes - I felt safer when I was in Los Angeles than when I was in Stockholm. Swedish police is insanely underfunded and overworked. For example, in my home-municipality there's only 5 (five) police-officers covering the second largest (area) county in entire Sweden. They have a hard time keeping up with all the drunkdrivers and domestic violence.

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    21. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They must have spent the 300 on beer.

    22. Re:Bandwidth Cost by KoporShow · · Score: 1

      Typically, you do not have to pay tuition in German universities.

    23. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't listen to these whiners. There will always be complainers in any system, and socialist Sweden is no exception. However, the majority is quite happy with being provided cheap services on the complainers' tax money :)

    24. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1

      Oh, the best were the first two Rhincewind ones, back before he got all preachy and was fun to read. They declined in quality to the point that I've stopped reading them, which is sad since the first few showed such great promise.

    25. Re:Bandwidth Cost by arcane_device · · Score: 1

      LAL is not one of my favorites, or any of the witch based novels. However my question is, do the producers know that the book is suppposed to be funny? They seemed to have replaced intentional comedy with just laughably bad quality.

    26. Re:Bandwidth Cost by crush · · Score: 1

      Oh poor you. Do you have enough to eat? Do you have leisure time? Do you have the assurance that if a disaster happens to you you'll be taken care of? Stop whining and if you don't like Sweden then emigrate to a fucked up country like the USA.

    27. Re:Bandwidth Cost by serutan · · Score: 1

      Interesting review. I have never read Pratchett's work but you got me interested. Thanks! Off to the library...

    28. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone who can't spell "genius" would definitely think Lords and Ladies was his best work, we all know Small Gods is his best work ever.

    29. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, all UK students should pay £20,000/year, considering nearly all end up paying more taxes as a result? STFU.

    30. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It certainly used to be the case that non euro students in the UK paid a lot more for their tuition as I almost found out due to a misfiling of my grant application many moons ago. I don't know if it is still the case these days but I strongly suspect so.

    31. Re:Bandwidth Cost by mo^ · · Score: 1

      shit, what i said was not what i meant... but of course you arent psychic. sorry.

      Just illustrating the point that foreign students pay a lot...

      of course uk students should pay less, damn gotta build up the local knowledge pool somehow.

      shouldnt post whilst stoned i guess

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    32. Re:Bandwidth Cost by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Here's the funny thing. The Discworld books started off as essentially a parody of fantasy. The problem is that Pratchett is too good of a writer and by the third book, the series took on a life of its own.

      The first two ("The Colour of Magic" and "The Light Fastastic") are pretty good, but they pale in comparison to what followed. With "Equal Rites", suddenly the storytelling and characters came to forefront. The humor is always present, including the puns and other intellectual wordplay, but these are just frosting... the story underneath is still thick and meaty. Mmmmm... frosting on meat.

      Anyhow, many (or even most) of the stories are allegorical observations on modern society, adding yet another level.

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    33. Re:Bandwidth Cost by Curious+Yellow+82 · · Score: 1

      Ha! Everyone knows that Small Gods was Pratchett's best work! Coming from someone who can't spell "genius" properly , I;m not at all surprised! :p

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    34. Re:Bandwidth Cost by tage · · Score: 1

      Don't listen to these whiners. There will always be complainers in any system, and socialist Sweden is no exception. However, the majority is quite happy with being provided cheap services on the complainers' tax money :)

      Quite. More than half on Sweden's population is dependent on state or county tax money for their upkeep (employed by the state or the county; or living from or dependent on welfare).

  2. GIVE THESE PEOPLE SOME MONEYS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The international film community has completely failed to create a "Good Omens" movie. But where the international film community has failed us, once again random germans have pulled through. Is it good? WHO CARES, NEITHER WAS "CONSTANTINE"

  3. Until by Kjella · · Score: 3, Funny

    A grand total of 300 euros were spent on this production

    Until they were hit with multiple times that in bandwidth costs after a slashdotting. Mohahahaha >:->

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  4. Well by Anv*l · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nice CG graphics :) Actually it's amazing how people can do something like this; and let the profit go to charity...

    1. Re:Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a sick fuck.

    2. Re:Well by paganizer · · Score: 1

      A lot of people, and I mean a LOT of people make shorts just for the heck of it; whether or not there is talent, there is artistic spirit, as in doing something when you know you are more likely to get sued than to make any sort of money...

      A good example is here; the guy just wanted to do a Godzilla animation with no commercial plans whatsoever, just for the halibut, and the "owners" of the big lizard (no, the other big lizard) said "take it down, or we will send our ninja copyright lawyers after you!"

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  5. Cricky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A link to an avi in the summary, and it's not /.ed yet. Impressive!

  6. Cheese eating surrender monkeys! by Pao|o · · Score: 0, Troll

    I didnt know that the French need donations. ;)

  7. omg by cat.os.mandros · · Score: 0

    my whet dreams come true ! :D

  8. Looks excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After the high quality displayed in the trailer for this Terry Pratchett project, I cannot wait to see their work on the upcoming "Peasant's Quest" movie

  9. Almost No Budget for webserver too by Spy+Handler · · Score: 0

    3 replies and link already slashdotted....

    1. Re:Almost No Budget for webserver too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Site loads fine here. Check your ethernet cable is plugged in. If you light it on fire you get fire wire and your page will load faster. Too bad your cable only lasts a certain ammount of time though.

  10. Live Action Anime by lakerdonald · · Score: 0

    This will be funnier than those bootleg Live Action Anime films. Kamehameha, anyone?

  11. No by Omkar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Keep them away from money. This is a labor of love; do you want an exec fucking it up?

    1. Re:No by mirko · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up !!!

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    2. Re:No by megrims · · Score: 1

      Yes.

    3. Re:No by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

      Sometimes, a good executive-type person can be a Good Thing (think Brian Epstein and the Beatles, Col. Tom Parker and Elvis, hell, Bill Gates and MS-DOS), or even a necessary thing (think of anybody who's become "undeservingly famous" because of brilliant marketing).

      Would this stifle their creativity? Maybe ... but think of what else they could do if they had the money/resources.

    4. Re:No by Dogtanian · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sometimes, a good executive-type person can be a Good Thing (think Brian Epstein and the Beatles

      Probably a good manager overall, but didn't exactly ensure they were getting the money from Beatles merchandise.

      Col. Tom Parker and Elvis

      I'd subscribe to the theory that he did a good job in the beginning, bringing Elvis to stardom, but ultimately he destroyed Elvis as a credible artist. Apparently, lots of (very fashionable) people wanted to work with Elvis in the 60s/70s, but he put the lid on that; and he was the one that pushed Elvis to do a gruelling number of shows in Las Vegas (as apparently Parker had lots of gambling debts that needed financing), which probably contributed to Elvis's early death. Elvis hardly went on tour outside the US, it's speculated because Parker was an illegal immigrant, and thus couldn't travel and exert control on Elvis when he was out of the country.

      The much-praised '68(?) Comeback Special was (IIRC) done *against* Parker's wishes.

      hell, Bill Gates and MS-DOS)

      Why is MS-DOS A Good Thing? It was an unwieldy rip-off of CP/M.

      Would this stifle their creativity? Maybe ... but think of what else they could do if they had the money/resources.

      See Col. Tom Parker, above, and consider how quickly Elvis was pushed from credible rock n' roll artist into commercially-friendly MOR singer then into Vegas cabaret artist.

      I mean, seriously, it's ******* weird when you think about it.

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  12. Slashdotting a full-length movie?! by SamSim · · Score: 4, Funny

    I could hear their server exploding from England!

    1. Re:Slashdotting a full-length movie?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a New English trailer, so I suppose that the server will explode in... New England?

    2. Re:Slashdotting a full-length movie?! by el-spectre · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shoulda hosted it on Hex...

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    3. Re:Slashdotting a full-length movie?! by akzeac · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but does it run Linux? (Anthill Inside should be x86-compatible)

    4. Re:Slashdotting a full-length movie?! by el-spectre · · Score: 1

      I dunno... the UU has all kinds of arcane knowledge... my guess would be VMS

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  13. ook by flumps · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oook ook OOOk ook ook ook OOk ook ook ook ook.

    [trans. I for one welcome our oragutan overlords]

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    1. Re:ook by zwei2stein · · Score: 1

      GruuuugHtwwwwat Ggggheewwr Muuuuug

      [transl: They wont get our teeth.]

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    2. Re:ook by Scrab · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought they were monkeys

      Oh wait....

      *starts running*

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    3. Re:ook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      fair play.. you have no life - that is the daftest post I have ever read on slashdot in all my 10 minutes worth of combined reading - may I suggest that you should go to the nearest gas station and purchase some of the finest fuel you can find. Take it back to your dwelling (in a suitable container of course) then generously apply it all over your furniture, fixtures and fittings before rolling yourself around on the floor. Once you are then soaked in said fuel you should walk through to your kitchen and turn on all available appliances which utilise gas then leave to marinade for 1 hour before rolling a big fat blunt and igniting.

      Hopefully you will take advantage of this more than useful information and save us from any of your boring posts.

      Thank you,

      CowboyNeal

    4. Re:ook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Some people just dont get in-jokes. If you don't like Pratchett why read the article in the first place?

      Funniest flame i ever read tho, that said..

    5. Re:ook by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny
      Oook ook OOOk ook ook ook OOk ook ook ook ook.

      I went to the theater to see the click, but there was this big guy with long read hair and long arms taking up the whole front row. He had a huge sack of banged grains, too, and kept throwing them at the screen.

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  14. Lords and Ladies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Isn't that the TV show on Max Payne 2? That was a funny show.

    my lord... my laaady...

  15. Under-blues. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Check out the new English trailer for some grin-inducing special effects!""

    Wearing too tight underwear can produce the same effect.

    1. Re:Under-blues. by oZt · · Score: 1

      Atm, that's the only option left...Slashdotted server :/

  16. Bittorent copy by Faram001 · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://trackerwww.prq.to/download.php/3294903/lnlu ksm.avi.torrent

    Site is nuked so get it from here.

    1. Re:Bittorent copy by tcdk · · Score: 4, Funny
      It's horribly low quality, with some really bad mpeg artefact's. I tidied up a frame, with a wizard talking on his cellphone ... where you go:

      _M_
      @O
      /|\
      / \
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    2. Re:Bittorent copy by dh5fbr · · Score: 1

      Sh**... this download goes maximum bandwidth - killing all doubts that my ISP does negative QoS for P2P.

      ah, and at /. the people really do keep the window open...

    3. Re:Bittorent copy by limegreen · · Score: 1

      Tracker nuked too.

    4. Re:Bittorent copy by rekenner · · Score: 1

      Works just fine for me, and I got it about 6-7 minutes ago. Downloaded damn fast, too.

    5. Re:Bittorent copy by Thnurg · · Score: 1

      Is that really him talking on his cellphone, or is that the after effect tumor?

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    6. Re:Bittorent copy by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

      IT'S NOT A TUMAH!

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  17. Link slashdotted by shyampandit · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, looks like their university hosting wasnt up to a good /.'ng :D

    Google cache of the webpage at - http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:QuFjhiYyVvQJ: www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~jknoblo2/LnL/Downloa ds/downloads.html+&hl=en

    1. Re:Link slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      normally link to mirrordot would give you the free karma, but the site was down before they could grap a copy.

      I think after all these years /. shoudl behave more responsible to slashdot kills. (like give mirrordot a 20 minutes response time to mirror the site)

  18. OKAY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Then never mind moneys, give them some sandwiches

  19. dv editing and Gutenburgs press by Fox_1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With so much power on the desktop it's becoming easier and easier to produce polished video products at home. There's even software to correct for shaky camera work, it's possible to redesign shots in the editing programs and digital effects are becoming very easy to setup now. (remember Lightsabre boy)
    I love the idea of more and more content being produced by hobbyists, enthusists and other non-studio persons. We are at that point where knowledge passes from a few to many - much like the printing press took the books away from the scholars and gave them to the people. Screw the RIAA & DMCA, we are gonna start producing our own copyrighted materials and they'll lose out.

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    1. Re:dv editing and Gutenburgs press by zalas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Overall, I think it looked pretty nicely done. The way the scenes are stitched together was really nice. Some effects looked really nice (the glowing eyes), but some looked really distracting (the starburst type effect, not sure what to call it). I liked the use of the miniature sized people. However, it seemed like sometimes the people look too "normal" in a sense, while at other times, they really fit in with the scene. Perhaps some better lighting/atmosphere could make up for it?

    2. Re:dv editing and Gutenburgs press by skeptictank · · Score: 0

      It looks like they have put a lot of effort into it. I wonder how well they were able to stitch the CG in with the live actor shots? It was hard to tell from the promo.

      One suggestion - cut the echo on the narrator's voice in the trailer.

    3. Re:dv editing and Gutenburgs press by lampajoo · · Score: 1

      The only problem is: where do we get actors that don't look like dorks?

    4. Re:dv editing and Gutenburgs press by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think that's lighting and costume. I think I also saw a couple spots where they were looking at the camera. That doesn't help either :-)

      There were some really great shots in the trailer and some really bad ones. I'm not sure why since the trailer drags on far too long and really says nothing about the film.

      Maybe a fan of the fan group could create a fan-group phantom edit of the original trailer.

    5. Re:dv editing and Gutenburgs press by Daniel · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, acting ability doesn't pass quite so easily. The trailer actually didn't look that bad, considering -- until the actors opened their mouths. *cringe* If that's the best line they could find in the movie...well, I'm not sure I want to see the worst.

      Daniel

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    6. Re:dv editing and Gutenburgs press by capilot · · Score: 1

      Someone recently pointed me to this web page:

      http://www.alienryderflex.com/rotoscope/

      There are some *astonishing* StarWars fanfic films on this web page, esp. the first one.

      (Unfortunately, most of the links are dead.)

    7. Re:dv editing and Gutenburgs press by Suidae · · Score: 1

      There's even software to correct for shaky camera work

      Oh, thank GOD! Quick, somebody send a copy of this software to the people making Battlestar Glactica!

  20. Great stuff... here's where to find more. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wonderfully entertaining, kitschy trailer.

    For more stuff quite like this, check out Channel 101 and its New York sister site, Channel 102.

    For an example of how brilliant zero-budget filmmaking can be, check out their winner for this month's contest: House of Cosbys.

    If you don't laugh at this, you're probably Bill Cosby. And even then.... well, just click.

    1. Re:Great stuff... here's where to find more. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, that was just...

      I am speechless.

      (I want a Cosby)

  21. Rankin by leenoble_uk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Screw Pratchett. We need a Robert Rankin movie. I vote for The Book of Ultimate Truths.

    1. Re:Rankin by Ithika · · Score: 1

      My God that's a beautiful idea! Which one was ultimate truths again? I can't remember, so long since I read his early (good) stuff. He's been a bit off lately. The Pooley and Omally series, they were fantastic, though I can't imagine who'd play them.

    2. Re:Rankin by leenoble_uk · · Score: 1

      The Book of Ultimate Truths has Cornelius Murphy and diminutive sidekick Tuppe searching through the forbidden zones for Hugo Rune, he which penned the book of the title.

      The forbidden zones for the uninitiated are those areas of the map to which mere mortals do not generally have access. To illustrate their existence Hugo rune took a regular map of the world and a ball. Everybody knows the world is round, yet when you attempt to fit the map onto the spherical object what you find is that it doesn't fit. you have to make all sorts of cuts in the map and even then you end up with big gaps everywhere. This empty space is the area covered by the forbidden zones. This is where all the biros go and where London's cabbies drive through to avoid the traffic.

    3. Re:Rankin by Ithika · · Score: 1

      Yes, Cornelius - the stuff of epics! - and Tuppe, who was so short his feet only just reached the ground. You have reminded me of a part of my childhood that I thought I had lost. I'm going to have to find that book now... Thank you! :)

    4. Re:Rankin by Scarblac · · Score: 1

      I vote for either the Brentford trilogy (The Antipope / The Brentford Triangle / East of Ealing, and possibly including The Sprouts of Wrath and The Brentford Chain Store Massacre). Or otherwise the Armageddon trilogy (Armageddon the Musical / They Came and Ate Us - Armageddon II the B-Movie / Suburban Book of the Dead - Armageddon III the Remake).

      Actually no, that's far too much for a film of course. I recommend those as starting points for people who want to start reading Rankin. The Brentford stuff is just really silly, the Armageddon stuff is just incredibly silly. Most of the later books are basically 80% running in-jokes.

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  22. The turtle moves! by tchernobog · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cool!

    But I just hope in Terry Gilliam to find the budget to start Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman's "Good Omens"!

    Wouldn't that be great?

    ---

    Along with the standard computer warranty agreement which said that if the machine 1) didn't work, 2) didn't do what the expensive advertisement said, 3) electrocuted the immediate neighbourhood, 4) and in fact failed entirely to be inside the expensive box when you opened it, this was expressly, absolutely, implicitly and in no event the fault or responsibility of the manufacturer, that the purchaser should consider himself lucky to be allowed to give his money to the manufacturer, and that any attempt to treat what had just been paid for as the purchaser's own property would result in the attentions of serious men with menacing briefcases and very thin watches.

    -- (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens)
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    42.
    1. Re:The turtle moves! by Denyer · · Score: 1
      Agreed. It's very impressive. Reminds me a bit of Knightmare (an old UK kids' show) but with better CGI.

      I don't trust a large company not to butcher Good Omens... particularly speeches such as Crowley talking about human nature... but a man from the same circle that produced Life of Brian has a better shot than most, I suppose...

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    2. Re:The turtle moves! by jspoon · · Score: 1
      ... but a man from the same circle that produced Life of Brian has a better shot than most, I suppose...

      Not to mention Jabberwocky, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and, most importantly, Brazil. I'd say that if anyone can get a movie as weird as Good Omens would have to be made, it's Gilliam. Or not made, if necessary. He's had more than his share of projects go up in smoke because someone thought they were too weird, probably some of them could have been saved if he was willing to tone down.

    3. Re:The turtle moves! by Denyer · · Score: 1
      The only reason Fear and Loathing got out was because it was made and distribution handled afterwards. I suspect similar arrangements would be required for Good Omens. Things might be in a better position if another Pratchett work made it to cinema first.

      A smaller TV film would be feasible, I'd think. The animated ones are decent, and British works such as Gaiman's Neverwhere (or even Dr Who) are still popular despite being low-budget.

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  23. Adding the "books that should be movies" subthread by arpoodle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since so many others have commented along similar lines, here's my tuppenceworth.

    Neal Stephenson's SnowCrash would be an Awesome film.

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  24. Re:Adding the "books that should be movies" subthr by i+chose+quality · · Score: 1

    holy crap, YES!

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    i am not at it
    what a waste of ressources
  25. bittorrent for god's sake! by lkcl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    somebody bittorrent it - next time _before_ announcing it on slashdot, please.

    1. Re:bittorrent for god's sake! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or post a dijjer (http://www.dijjer.org) link (http://dijjer.org/get/http://www.rzuser.uni-heide lberg.de/~jknoblo2/LnL/lnluksm.avi) in the story...

  26. Re:Adding the "books that should be movies" subthr by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Neal Stephenson's SnowCrash would be an Awesome film.

    If done right (from your perspective) yes.

    The problem with movies is that they leave very little to the imagination. Filter a good written story through a film and all you are left with is the movie

    Films which I wish I had never seen include Millennium (from a fantastic short story by John Varley) and (Gibson)

  27. Max Payne 2? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    i so wish there was a tv show based on "Lords and Ladies" from Max Payne 2. If anyone who has played this game stood around the TV and watched this show would laugh immensely. A great easter egg that other game developers should strive for

  28. Re:Adding the "books that should be movies" subthr by oZt · · Score: 1

    I agree, but the book is awsome. And we don't have to view it as a movie of the book, just as a movie.

  29. Totally Agree by arpoodle · · Score: 1

    I do recognise that it takes something special to make a film that's anywhere as good as the book.

    Other "cyberpunk" genre book-film conversions haven't gone as well.. Johnny Nmemonic springs to mind.

    I do think, tho, that Snowcrash has a wide enough spread plot, that it coud be done with something for everyone.

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    When a passenger of the foot, hooves in sight, tootel the horn trumpet melodiously
    1. Re:Totally Agree by c4miles · · Score: 1

      Mostly agreed. However, Strange Days, Blade Runner and The Matrix (to an extent) prove that cyberpunk themes can be done well.

      Snowcrash? Well, we can live in hope.

  30. Would it have been so hard... by Sanity · · Score: 2, Informative
    1. Re:Would it have been so hard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Dijjer doesn't run on many setups; when they've made it truely cross-platform (not just Linux/x86, MacOS X, Windows, Solaris), then it might be interesting.

    2. Re:Would it have been so hard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because Windows, Linux, OSX, and Solaris together only constitute a tiny fraction of deployed operating systems...

    3. Re:Would it have been so hard... by Greg+W. · · Score: 1

      I have a half-formed conspiracy theory which states that if anyone ever sets up a fully distributed peer-to-peer mirror of a large file with high demand before posting the story to slashdot, one or more of the following will come to pass:

      • The slashdot editors will reject the story.
      • One of the four-letter "content" cartels will sue someone over it.
      • Cows will be seen flying barrel-rolls over the Pentagon.
      • The world as we know it will come to an end.
      • Ian Clarke will write something in a portable language instead of Java. ;-)

      It sometimes seems that slashdot is an active Tool Of The Industry (conspiracy caps) aimed at destroying any small independent publishers by intentionally not mirroring anything.

    4. Re:Would it have been so hard... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      when they've made it truely cross-platform (not just Linux/x86, MacOS X, Windows, Solaris), then it might be interesting.

      So are you running FreeBSD or Amiga?

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  31. I should read when I preview by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    Johnny Mnemonic By William Gibson

    1. Re:I should read when I preview by Quobobo · · Score: 1

      I completely agree with you about that movie. I don't know how they managed to mess it up so badly; the short story was fantastic, with some scenes that would be amazing in (good) cinema. All it would really need is to be extended for a movie. If they got the right cinematographer, imagine what the grimy underworld of a Gibson city would look like, or the Killing Floor where Molly fights.

  32. *Shudder* by kunwon1 · · Score: 1

    Just so long as it isn't in black and white, and doesn't feature a convenience store and the militantly non-personable employees thereof.

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  33. Gotta Catch 'Em All! by boingyzain · · Score: 2, Funny

    on a full-length dramatisation of pterry's novel

    Pterry? Sounds like a Pokemon.

    Back on topic... I sure wish real movie studios would pick up some of these Discworld novels to make a great expensive movie out of. I can see them as the next Star Wars or such, if they do it right.

    Or, even better, a faithful recreation of Dune!

    1. Re:Gotta Catch 'Em All! by antiaktiv · · Score: 1

      once they get around to making his dark materials, that'll be the new star wars, or lord of the rings, if you will.

    2. Re:Gotta Catch 'Em All! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Is the Pterry related to the Ptarmigan?

      Pterry - a small humourous sea bird, with a strange affinity for elephants.

    3. Re:Gotta Catch 'Em All! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you see the Dune mini-series that came out relatively recently. It was a lot more faithful to the book than the film IMHO.

      -AC

    4. Re:Gotta Catch 'Em All! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Sci-Fi Channel's miniseries of Dune, and the follow-up Children of Dune (comprising Dune Messiah, and Children of Dune) are pretty damn good :)

      Give 'em a watch. Much better than that drek from Lynch any day of the week.

    5. Re:Gotta Catch 'Em All! by makomk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pterry? Sounds like a Pokemon.
      It's an alt.fan.pratchett in-joke

    6. Re:Gotta Catch 'Em All! by makomk · · Score: 1

      Darn, wrong FAQ. Well, it's on lspace.org somewhere...

    7. Re:Gotta Catch 'Em All! by DJCF · · Score: 2, Funny

      a faithful recreation of Dune!

      Check out the *very* original - the David Lynch, with a young Patrick Stewart and horrendous CG. It's almost as old as the Ten Commandments (the film, not stones)!

      But it's good...

    8. Re:Gotta Catch 'Em All! by tepples · · Score: 1

      Nothing to do with a pterodactyl from Pee-Wee's Playhouse?

    9. Re:Gotta Catch 'Em All! by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      No, that was the right FAQ. I found it in there.

    10. Re:Gotta Catch 'Em All! by Thuktun · · Score: 1

      Pterry? Sounds like a Pokemon.

      If you haven't already, read Pyramids. Pteppic, Ptraci, and other Pt* names.

      Or, even better, a faithful recreation of Dune!

      Personally, I found the SciFi Channel's treatment of Dune (and Messiah and Children) to be remarkably true to the books.

  34. The footage isn't usually the problem... by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some of the really major stumbling blocks I see:

    1. Scenery/Models. Unless it is set in contemporary earth, this is one of the really hard ones. By models I mean models of castles, spaceships etc., which tend to look like they were made of Lego.

    2. Getting enough angles. Particularly an issue in action movies, where my impression is the shot lacks angles (i.e. it was filmed once from one angle, instead of a commercial movie often mixing and matching between overview shots, action "highlights", close-ups of key people, pans etc.

    All of that is used to form a good scene. It takes time, requires a good editor and provides very little screen time, but it really sets them apart. In particular, notice that you never see a "pan-up" scene done with rails/crane in an amateur movie. Same with aerial shots.

    3. Acting of B-class characters. The leads usually have some acting skill. But the fringe characters (i.e. not the extras) suck donkey balls.

    4. Cheesy CG/special effects. Yes, I know many of the effects are easy to make today. But more often than not, the program doesn't support (or it is too damn hard to figure out how) the effect you really want, but you settle for what you can. They tend to look plastered on top like a sticker from a Donald Duck magazine on top of your photo.

    5. Audio effects. The music is usually decent, but the timing might be off. But more often than not, the audio effects sound "unmatched" or simply fake. No, changing the pitch and streching/compressing it still makes it sound like a horse/pig/dog/bird/animal of the day, and that was just you screaming.

    Kjella

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    1. Re:The footage isn't usually the problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      the fringe characters (i.e. not the extras) suck donkey balls

      What movies are *you* watching?

    2. Re:The footage isn't usually the problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a total wanker!

    3. Re:The footage isn't usually the problem... by Coryoth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm not sure whether you are directly addressing the GP post on general filmmaking on a low budget (with the advent of digital video, editing on computer, etc.) or particularly the Discworld project. I'll assume you're discussing general filmmaking (with a lean toward science fiction/fantasy).

      1. Scenery/Models. Unless it is set in contemporary earth, this is one of the really hard ones. By models I mean models of castles, spaceships etc., which tend to look like they were made of Lego.

      Depends on who you know. I know people entirely capable of constructing extremely impressive models (he has another job, but could easily do model work professionally). Then again, if you are a good enough writer you ought to be able to limit what you need to depict without it seeming forced.

      2. Getting enough angles.

      That is still pretty tough. Digital video cameras are getting cheaper and cheaper however, so in a few years this will be the result of laziness rather than inability.

      3. Acting of B-class characters.

      Again, very hard, but it also hangs heavily on what you're doing. The biggest problems involve the filmmakers not bothering to understand their constraints before they start, then working within them. People can act surprisingly well when they have to play (essentially) themselves and they have halfway competent direction. Of course, I am not a film director. Then again, I do know some.

      4. Cheesy CG/special effects.

      This one really does come down to a lack of proper forethought and design by the filmmakers. Write something you are capable of filming with the resources you have. This is not as constraining as you might think. Some great science fiction films have been shot with minimal special effects (see Pi, or The Sticky Fingers of Time). If the filmmakers don't know how to go about constructing a good film within their means, is it any surprise it sucks?

      5. Audio effects.

      Are just plain hard if you have anything much to do in the way of real foley work. This is one area that remains relatively inaccessible to everyday people as it just requires a lot of skill (and imagination). On the other hand, the trick is to stay away from things that are going to require such foley work.

      So in the end the main issue is having the core team of writer/director/producer actually having a decent idea of what can be done, and working within those constraints. You can make surprisingly good material providing you are creative within those restrictions, and have a few clues as to what you are doing.

      No, random people are not going to be making great films, but a small group of people with a real interest in film (the sort that actually read books on shot framing, directing etc.) can produce remarkably impressive material. I would suggest that there are enough people with such interests in the world that we will see more and more quality amateur productions showing up over the next 10 years.

      Jedidiah.

    4. Re:The footage isn't usually the problem... by theguyfromsaturn · · Score: 1

      You know, what would be really great, some kind of grand open source project in this area... a joint venture of geeks to make the tools to facilitate computer side production, computer artists to work on all those models and special effects using those tools, and the on stage artists providing their acting talent. If you add some writers to create original content, you might end up producing a very creative community.

      It may not so much: "Is Linux ready for the desktop" but "Is open source ready to go beyond software." I'm really excited about the potential.

      In any event, creating a special project, a repository of tools for creating movies, and a repository of models and special effects would be great.

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    5. Re:The footage isn't usually the problem... by ItsIllak · · Score: 1

      Just some comments supporting the immediate parent post. I'd love to get my act together and make a short. Because of Mini-DV cameras being so standard and cheap, and desktop editing being well within the grasp of the common PC,it's as easy as it's going to get. All you need is 10 dedicated friends (some of whom can act), and lots of time!

      1/ Yes, amateur movie making has to be set in your neighbourhood, or one closeby. Forest settings may not be great due to lighting problems. I just watched an episode of "the 'Bu" from NY Channel 101, great example.

      2/ If you can, rope in others with the same quality camera as you have. Much easier today given that most cheap cameras are single CCD recording to Mini-DV. Then shoot each action scene from a few angles and cut them together.

      3/ there's usually very little you can do about the acting skills. Leadership is probably important here, you need a director who's happy to re-set a scene and make the do it again until they get it right.

      4/ Don't even try the special effects. Unless you happen to know a 3d artist it's going to look out of place.

      5/ Audio is toughest. Movies shot on location are dubbed and generally very few will be done in a sound stage. Dubbing is key to controlling what it all sounds like. Foley artists are also pretty specialised, but there are some noises you can do well (slapping, breaking etc).

      One key thing is basic photography. Make sure you're thinking about the scene, getting character perspectives, shooting set pieces well (watch some soaps to see how conversations are shot, some action movies to see how action a chase is done etc..). If you get that right, it'll come together much more easily in the edit.

      Oh, and going back to the director, make sure you are VERY organised. The clapperboard is your friend as is the notebook!

    6. Re:The footage isn't usually the problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5. Audio effects. The music is usually decent, but the timing might be off. But more often than not, the audio effects sound "unmatched" or simply fake. No, changing the pitch and streching/compressing it still makes it sound like a horse/pig/dog/bird/animal of the day, and that was just you screaming.

      This isn't only for the amatures. In Lord of the Rings: FOTR, the balrog roar is a cinder block scraping. It seemed cheesy to me.

  35. Re:Adding the "books that should be movies" subthr by bhima · · Score: 3, Informative
    I am still traumatized by the SciFi Channel's adaptation of the Earthsea cycle to want a book to become a movie (or a mini-series).

    Gavin Scott, the Butcher of Earthsea, should not be allowed to read or write ever again.

    But you are right on the SnowCrash thing or A Diamond Age which I also enjoyed.

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  36. Trailer mirror by maswan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a mirror of the english trailer:

    http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/temp/lnluksm.avi

  37. lords and ladies by DarkClown · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i can't wait to see this after someone mirrors it or something. but i wish these kind folk had done one of the starter books, lords and ladies is definitely kind of into the series a little bit, although it pretty much doesn't matter with the discworld stuff.
    pratchett's about due for a new one seems like - going postal's been out a while now. been reading the bromeliad triology last few days, it's fun.
    what ever happened to gilliams good omens efforts?

    1. Re:lords and ladies by Denyer · · Score: 3, Informative
      it pretty much doesn't matter with the discworld stuff.

      Well, Lords and Ladies is the first book where the author thought it worth including a note in the front to the effect that it helps to have read them in some kind of order. (And gave a short summary of events so far.)

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    2. Re:lords and ladies by hughk · · Score: 1

      Going Postal was released autumn last year. Terry has been doing two books a year of late but one of those at the moment is for kids. There should be a kids book in the spring followed by the next adult book in the autumn.

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    3. Re:lords and ladies by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      I guess a great first-discworld-movie would be 'Mort'. It can stand alone, has the full atmosphere and has scenes which would translate absolutely marvelously to movies. Plus it has anything a hollywood exec insists be in a movie, including a love interest :)

      As for Gilliam's effort to get Good Omens done...I think he's still trying to scare up a budget, last I heard.

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      -- Waht? Tehr's a preveiw buottn?
    4. Re:lords and ladies by dspeyer · · Score: 1
      Unfortunately, you may need to start your own movie studio. Here's how it went when they tried (taken from the APF:
      Speaking of movies, what happened to the plans for a movie based on Mort?

      "A production company was put together and there was US and Scandinavian and European involvement, and I wrote a couple of script drafts which went down well and everything was looking fine and then the US people said "Hey, we've been doing market research in Power Cable, Nebraska, and other centres of culture, and the Death/skeleton bit doesn't work for us, it's a bit of a downer, we have a prarm with it, so lose the skeleton". The rest of the consortium said, did you read the script? The Americans said: sure, we LOVE it, it's GREAT, it's HIGH CONCEPT. Just lose the Death angle, guys.

      Whereupon, I'm happy to say, they were told to keep on with the medication and come back in a hundred years."

      "The person also said that Americans "weren't ready for the treatment of Death as an amusing and sympathetic character". This was about 18 months/2 years before Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey."

      "Currently, since the amount of money available for making movies in Europe is about sixpence, the consortium is looking for some more intelligent Americans in the film business. This may prove difficult.

      It could have been worse. I've heard what Good Omens was looking like by the time Sovereign's option mercifully ran out -- set in America, no Four Horsemen... oh god."

      "What you have to remember is that in the movies there are two types of people 1) the directors, artists, actors and so on who have to do things and are often quite human and 2) the other lifeforms. Unfortunately you have to deal with the other lifeforms first. It is impossible to exaggerate their baleful stupidity."

  38. Making books into movies by Redwin · · Score: 1

    I would still like to see how books get selected for movies, I mean given the amount of amatuer productions of books there appear to be some truly genius adaptations that could be made given proper backing.

    I wonder if we could post a top 10 books-to-film list and see if someone actually pays attention to what the public wants... oh wait.. best interests of the public... movie industry... never mind.

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  39. Usually... by GNUThomson · · Score: 5, Funny

    unless it is uni-form-hot-chicks.de or something. But that kind of sites have their educational goals, anyway.

  40. This is it! by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    This is the end of cinema.

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    1. Re:This is it! by Chatsubo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I saw an interesting insert on TV a while back documenting the efforts of film-makers in Africa.

      What these guys do is write a "quick-hack" script, get some actors, a couple of (their own) cars, camera's, some lights, etc. And go make a movie.

      1. Shoot footage you need in about 3 days. 2. Edit 3. Make lots of VHS tapes. 4. Sell to street vendors. 5. Profit! Notice there's no ???, and that's because it's actually a booming business. Their clients don't want to see Americans blowing up aliens. They want to see people like them, in situations they can relate to.

      They also create jobs for a lot of people down the food chain: From Cameramen, actors, editors, right down to the guy that sells you the tape on the street.

      You don't need big budgets, millionnaire actors, and 4000 people to make an engaging film.

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    2. Re:This is it! by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      or talent, or artistic merit, or quality. This says more about the audience than it does about the film makers. Due to hollywood the vast majority of us wouldn't know a good film if it bit us in the ass. We have no critical asthetic for film so we're willing to accept anything.

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  41. lets see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...if they can make "night watch" or "guards! guards!" with, say, 500 euros :-) congtatulations for your work, guys. maybe anytime over the weekend your work will be un-slashdotted and visible :)

  42. Watched the trailer! by Stalyn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ....eh shoulda used 16 mm film. But hey who cares if it looks like crap?

    A really good sci-fi movie shot for a very low budget ($7000) I recommend is Primer.

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  43. obligatory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!

  44. Ook? Ook. by Kristoffer+Lunden · · Score: 1

    Better learn to program in Ook! then before the jobs are outsourced to Sumatra or Borneo.

    1. Re:Ook? Ook. by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Or Howandaland...

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      You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
    2. Re:Ook? Ook. by chalkoutline · · Score: 1

      or Ecks Ecks Ecks Ecks.

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      There are 2 types of people in the world, those who find that stupid binary joke funny, and those who don't.
  45. Re:Rankin ... is absolutely awful IMHO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somehow the blurbs on his books sort of make me interested, but his horrendous style completely ruins any goodwill the (sort of neat) ideas might have created.

  46. Offtopic Sig Meta-comment by c4miles · · Score: 1

    Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Gates R'chmd wgah'nagl fhtagn.

    Whatever that incantation means, I hope it works.

    1. Re:Offtopic Sig Meta-comment by Denyer · · Score: 1

      Better than reciting the Rite of AshkEnte backwards did for Albert... ;)

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    2. Re:Offtopic Sig Meta-comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I don't know about that... He was trying to stop himself from dying, wasn't he? And he hasn't died yet, so his main objective has been achieved.

    3. Re:Offtopic Sig Meta-comment by DarkClown · · Score: 1

      someone mod that up, it was totally relevant for discworld readers.

  47. Another Pratchett Film by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I noticed on LSpace that there's also a short of "Troll Bridge" being filmed by a bunch of Aussies.

    They even got a quickie script rewrite from PTerry himself.

    1. Re:Another Pratchett Film by Twisted64 · · Score: 1

      If it's being done in Australia, and they're taking pains to conceal the landscape, why not make it a lot easier, and most likely cheaper, and do The Last Continent? Not much scenery required for most of Rincewind's scenes, there. In fact, as I recall, all the places in XXXX are run-down, shabby and have corrugated iron or tin roofs. It could easily be filmed in the heart of Sydney :P

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  48. Re:Pointy hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    A wizard has a pointy hat, always! (and his staff has a knob on the end)
    _/\_
    7 U
    |/|\
    |/ \
  49. Ultimate B-movie night film!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    awesome!

  50. flamebait, sure by MOMOCROME · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    ...but I just can't see what you guys like about this Pratchett guy. He comes off as a wanky, half-baked Douglas Adams wannabe selling semi-ironically juxtaposed fantasy cliches by the gross.

    In my somewhat severe opinion, I'd say the classic M.Y.T.H. series is far more sophisticated, far more entertaining, and most importantly far more funny.

    Don't get me wrong- I've consumed all the works of both authors. It's just that I've come to the conclusion that Mr. Pratchett works at the same level as the likes of Piers Anthony or Cory Doctorow(not so good). Robert Aspirin and gang, on the other hand, operate more on the level of Zelazny or Niven (moderately acceptable).

    fwiw, I prefer the works of Mervyn Peake to all of this pedestrian dreck.

    1. Re:flamebait, sure by Denyer · · Score: 1

      Not that your idea of 'acceptable' bothers me much, but Anthony (rather like Tom Holt) tends to work with bludgeoning puns rather than back-referencing; Pratchett is more enjoyable the more of the source material you know.

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      Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Gates M'dna wgah'nagl fhtagn.
    2. Re:flamebait, sure by lisaparratt · · Score: 1

      I'd hazard a guess at it being due to you being American, and Terry Pratchett and his humour being British.

    3. Re:flamebait, sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I completely and entirely disagree. I wouldn't put Asprin up with Zelazny. Are you mad?

      My impression of the Myth series is that it's something of a romp, and Steve and Gleep are amusing, but ... it's lacking.

      Try Pratchett again. Read him more carefully. And don't start with a Rincewind book. Discworld started out as a satire of fantasy writing, but it has grown into something much more sophisticated.

      Read Small Gods, or Pyramids, first. Then read the other books, and not out of order.

      When I was in junior high, I decided I had outgrown pterry. Once I had grown up a bit, I found I was mature enough to appreciate him.

    4. Re:flamebait, sure by Mac+Degger · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The main difference between Pratchet and Asprin is that Asprin is just funny; Pratchet on the other hand is deeply funny. By that I mean that to fully appreciate Pratchet you need to know certain things: like Latin, or heraldry or quantum physics, to get the full efect of some of his jokes and puns (actually most of his humor works that way; one good example is Unseen University...it's only after reading Neal Stephenson's Quicksilver did I realise Pratchet was riffing on the Invisible College, the precursor to the Royal Society).
      Plus there's some mayor commentary going on on modernday life on an anecdotal level. Asprin just does not have that; hell Aprin doesn't even have a simple theme (in the literary sense) going on in any of his MYTH books. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the MYTH series...it's just that it's like penny romance novels against Pratchet's more mature, 'real' literature.

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    5. Re:flamebait, sure by ray-auch · · Score: 1

      Unlikely the cause since GP compares him (unfavourably) to Douglas Admas, who was also British.

      FWIW, I'm British and I also rate Adams above Pratchett.

      I think it is partly (but not entirely) that Pratchett is often brilliantly amusing commentary on the state of the world, but way off in fantasy setting, whereas Adams is brilliantly amusing sci-fi written with such a great insight on this world that he makes it believable that the rest of the galaxy could actually be that mad.

    6. Re:flamebait, sure by bwcbwc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Humor is in the eye of the beholder, so I won't debate which author is funnier. But I think you'll find that Pratchett has the best-integrated plot-lines of the three authors you mention.

      I wish I could figure out why you think Aspirin is more sophisticated. To me, his writing is the weakest of the three. Characters are almost as flat as Isaac Asimov's. Asprin's great contribution was his ability to skewer genre-fantasy conventions with a sci-fi or real world twist, but he rarely works the other way around, skewering the real world with a fantasy twist. For Pratchett, anything is fair game.

      The variety of characters that Pratchett has available, plus the fact that Ankh-Morpork allows him to introduce new characters with minimal fuss, allows him to take on stories that just don't fit into Asprin's universe. When did Asprin take on Hollywood (Moving Pictures), Rock 'n' Roll (Soul Music), Shakespeare (Wyrd Sisters), or Opera (Maskerade)? Or himself, for that matter?

      Both Asprin and Pratchett put their characters into stock, satirical situations, but since the M.Y.T.H. stories revolve around a smaller set of characters, sometimes the characters don't fit the satire or the story line so well. Pratchett essentially runs two ongoing sets of primary characters, with several other personalities that appear less frequently: The Ankh-Morpork gang (primarily the Watch and the Wizards, with various other sub-groups that grow or fade in importance over parts of the series) and the Witches up in Lancre with their supporting cast. The Uberwald group may grow into an ongoing cast as well, but they seem to be more like some of the other ongoing characters like Casanunda the dwarf or King Verence.

      Disclosure: I pretty much stopped re-reading Asprin in my late 20's, where I still reread many of Pratchett's works.

      Adams and Pratchett are very similar, but if you look at the copyrights on their earliest novels, I think you'll see that they both started up at about the same time. So "Douglas Adams wannabe" isn't fair. It's more like Newton and Liebniz both inventing calculus at the same time. Or Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton. Or McDonalds and Burger King.

      Another big advantage of Pratchett is he's still writing Discworld novels. Adams and Asprin have stopped their series (for various reasons). And Asprin can't seem to write without help. Every story he starts seems to evolve from or to some sort of shared world where other authors do most of the work. Thieve's World anyone? Actually, I found Thieve's World a more interesting series than the MYTH series over the long haul. MYTH should've stopped at a trilogy.

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    7. Re:flamebait, sure by Daniel · · Score: 1

      Hm, I would never place Anthony at the level of Pratchett, but there is one similarity that I can think of -- both of them crank out huge volumes of books that rely way too heavily on self-reference and in-jokes. I read all of the early Discworld books with great enthusiasm, but somehow I just don't enjoy PTerry's latest offerings the same way...they've gotten too formulaic and predictable for my taste. My favorite book in the series remains "Small Gods", maybe partly because it doesn't substitute references to the rest of the series for actual new content.

      Daniel

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    8. Re:flamebait, sure by lisaparratt · · Score: 1

      I also rate Adams above Pratchett, but that the comparison is somewhat like comparing diamonds and rubies.

    9. Re:flamebait, sure by circusboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think that one of the most enjoyable moments I've had regarding a pratchet book, was after reading, I think it was "Reaper Man," where there was a description of the magic detector that consisted of an urn with several elephants around the rim. When magic was detected, a pebble would drop (well, shoot)out of the elephant which was pointing towards the source of the magic.(pib)

      a couple of years after reading this, I was leafing through a catalog of ancient pottery, ( I believe it was chinese,) and there was a photograph of an ancient siesmometer. an urn with a bunch of elephants around the rim with a pebble balanced on the trunk. if there was an earthquake, the elephants in line with the direction of the source of the earthquake would drop their pebbles.

      this was the point at which I really came to appreciate the depth of Pratchett's satire and observations. He doesn't just make them up, he references things which already are. I think that his insight into the mental condition is as great as his sense of historical trivia.

      While I enjoyed Asprin's books (I tend to prefer the phule series to the M.Y.T.H series), the characters and stories he uses seem to be much more earnestly childish (childish is not a bad thing) and far less applicable as examples of humanity. They are definitely funny, but not, as the parent here says, deep. It's kind of like the difference between wit and humor. One definition of which Pratchett gave in an interview, (I can't remember where,) and another you can find in the movie "Ridicule" (french movie, VERY funny)

      the other thing about Pratchett, is that his grammar isn't as condescending as Asprin (or for that matter, most children's book authors) "Hat full of Sky" and "Wee Free Men" , books that Pratchett deliberately aimed at the younger reader do NOT make any attempt to 'dumb down' the writing style because he is writing for children. he just chooses a topic that is of more direct interest to a child. i.e. the life of a pre-teen character.

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    10. Re:flamebait, sure by atomic_toaster · · Score: 1

      one good example is Unseen University...it's only after reading Neal Stephenson's Quicksilver did I realise Pratchet was riffing on the Invisible College, the precursor to the Royal Society

      That's what makes Pratchett re-readable, whereas I find that I can only read any of Asprin's stuff once. The humor of Pratchett's work changes as you grow and expand your knowledge. Asprin's stuff, although not bad in and of itself, is so self-contained that you learn very little upon reading it more than once.

    11. Re:flamebait, sure by fiftyfly · · Score: 2, Informative

      Close - it was Numbers Richter's reality measuring device from Moving Pictures.

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    12. Re:flamebait, sure by circusboy · · Score: 1

      Damn! It's been a while, and unfortunately for me most of my pratchett collection is still in storage on the west coast. (of the u.s.) and I am currently stuck in the northeast kingdom.

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    13. Re:flamebait, sure by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Ironiclly, I just sarted re-reading "Moving Pictures".

      "thats not ironic, that's a coincidence." -- Bender

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  51. Warch it from mirrordot.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.mirrordot.org

  52. Discworld isn't dead then by Irashtar · · Score: 0

    this looks really promising, but will I be able/when can I see this? Also, If you miss the adventure games for discworld, check out the underdogs! http://www.the-underdogs.org/search.php?search_gam e=discworld

  53. Re:Adding the "books that should be movies" subthr by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

    Ok;

    I'll add Oryx and Crake by Margret Atwood.

    Terrific book, much film potential.

  54. Considered by Mark_MF-WN · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Do these people ever consider the idea that maybe... just maybe... books don't translate well into movies? It's not exactly a strange idea. Look at how badly music translates into movies, or how poorly a sculpture translates into a song. I say let books stay books. Just come up with new ideas for movies.

    Hmmm. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm going to start a project to convert Dali's "The Persistence of Memory" into a television series.

    1. Re:Considered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Hmmm. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm going to start a project to convert Dali's "The Persistence of Memory" into a television series.

      It's been done. It was called "Monty Python's Flying Circus". There's also been a remake called "Futurama".

    2. Re:Considered by VShael · · Score: 1

      Look at how badly music translates into movies

      Yeah. That FANTASIA movie sucked donkey balls.

    3. Re:Considered by baker_tony · · Score: 1

      Yeah, or how crap written words translate into speach.

    4. Re:Considered by ultramk · · Score: 1

      It's wonderfully ironic that you choose Dali as your example. Dali himself was a big fan of reinterpreting his own work into other media, even so far as recreating elements from "The Persistence of Memory"--among many others--in video, sculpture, what have you.

      In fact, in general he treated his own work with an insouciance that many of his admirers would be horrified by.

      Many of his best works were interpretations of poetry, songs and literature. Even "The Persistence of Memory" itself was an adaptation: it was based on a recurring dream he had.

      All art is interpretation. The best works in ANY media will include a high percentage of adapted works (In film, Gone With the Wind and The Wizard of Oz spring to mind, although there are certainly better contemporary examples.). It's unwise to get an ivory-tower attitude towards art: if the original artist had felt that way, the very works you admire would probably never have been created.

      m-

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  55. Oh dear by DoctorMO · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know what the copyright is on Terries work, because normaly you need to ask the auther before doing such things. Maybe theres a clause somewhere that you can make a film of a book as long as it's for charity, but I dout it.

    1. Re:Oh dear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Terry is genrally very open on non-profit related fan based discworld enterprises. Hence the many plays based on his books, the MUD and other such enterprises. As far as I'm aware he much prefers the amateur approach to his work and gives support where he can as well, such as going to plays put on by amateur dramatic groups. Though it's always nice to drop him a mail and let him know what your doing, as with the Troll Bridge film being made, he may just help you out.

    2. Re:Oh dear by greenrd · · Score: 1
      normaly you need to ask the auther before doing such things.

      Yes, you do.

      (I am the story submitter.) But it's not a problem. They have signed a contract with Terry - it says so on their site.

  56. Johannes Gutenberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  57. It was a book? by coder.keitaro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It read like a Hollywood script!

    I am really surprised that this has not yet been picked up by some studio.

    I was not particularly impressed by the book, I thought the pacing was off, the characterization was amateurish, and it tried far too hard to be hacker-chic, but I really thought its style would appeal to Hollywood.

    It felt like a movie far more than the Neuromancer series by William Gibson
    I consider Gibson's literary works superior, but they are almost impossible to make into movies.
    [Too much internal dialog and not enough action]

    But, I suppose, after The Matrix any studio will have a difficult time doing an adaption of any Cyberpunk novel.

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    1. Re:It was a book? by Booker+C.+Bense · · Score: 1

      Actually it was a failed INFOCOM style game that turned into
      a book after the programming effort collapsed. Novels in
      general make terrible movies, short stories work a lot better.

    2. Re:It was a book? by Refrag · · Score: 1

      Snow Crash was originally written as a text adventure game? That would make sense. It's horrible in comparison to Quicksilver or what I have read of Cryptonomicon.

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  58. Yes! by hudsong · · Score: 0

    I have been waiting for this to happen for so long! Thank gods (as Vimes would say)! Haha! If you are having Codec problems, google "Xvid" and download it.

  59. newest obligatory reference: Jetsons by MissTuxie · · Score: 1

    eep app ork ah ah

    [trans: I love you]

  60. Re:I have a torrent... by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...up my ass.

    ROFL... this is the most incompetent troll I've seen for a long time; everyone knows that the goatse.cx account has been suspended for *months*! (BTW, looks like its replacement, goat.cx has met a similarly tragic fate)

    Good account name though...

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  61. Re:AVI wont play in Quick Time or Media Player... by Irashtar · · Score: 0

    you need divx. mplayer will run this in windows, bu its command line only. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/

  62. I think they sum it up best by Agret · · Score: 1

    in the trailer when they sale "A tale best forgotten." i'd like to see a real movie based on Discworld. The special effects in this look like something I would do :P

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    1. Re:I think they sum it up best by lunadude · · Score: 1

      So right. This is one time I believe the advertisement.

  63. Why only young people by Wirr · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I have just managed to download and watch the English trailer.

    Why are the old people, like the witches, played by young people ?
    In the books, the witches are old.

    Couldn't they have found some grannies ?

    1. Re:Why only young people by Thuktun · · Score: 1

      In the books, the witches are old.

      Esme and Nanny, yes. Magrat not so much.

  64. Re:AVI wont play in Quick Time or Media Player... by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 2, Informative

    Or just, you know, download the correct codec (divx) like they advise at the top of the page...

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  65. You know? by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

    You know who should do a Discworld movie and actually be able to pull it off? The guys who do the Harry Potter movies. I think they're just about the only ones who could pull off the style and keep the books intact.

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  66. Having never read the book... by Jesus+2.0 · · Score: 1

    ... I am unsure, from the trailer, whether it's overly self-serious or whether it's faux-overly-self-serious humor.

    Could someone please enlighten me?

  67. Re:AVI wont play in Quick Time or Media Player... by Siener · · Score: 2, Informative

    It works fine in the VLC Media Player. VLC is a great program - it plays just about any video and you never have to download codecs

  68. more awful than the most awful thing ever by option8 · · Score: 1

    worse even than awfulness itself, which is, you have to admit, pretty awful.

    and really... why lords and ladies? why not start at the beginning and do the colour of magic... i suppose L&L has elves. and the nac mac feegle. oh, and the witches. and cohen, it seems... can't remember that part...

    as long as it has DEATH, it's all good in my book.

    so, maybe not as awful as i thought.

    be great if peter jackson would commit to the whole series. maybe as a... what do you call a trilogy with 37 parts? maybe after king kong...

    1. Re:more awful than the most awful thing ever by nagora · · Score: 1
      be great if peter jackson would commit to the whole series

      Yes, why not have him shit all over every good writer's work? Commit suicide would be more like it. Talentless fuck.

      TWW

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    2. Re:more awful than the most awful thing ever by banana+fiend · · Score: 1

      Actually, It IS pretty awful

      I know it's kinda nice to see people doing things that involve getting fresh air and having good clean fun while getting some beer and delicious german sausage, but WOW!

      It actually looks like they've gotten the worst of both worlds - nac mac feegle didn't play a part in L&L, and neither was there a lot of fighting with men beating each other up and jumping out of windows - only magrat really got the ass-kickin on. So, it looks like a hollywood style mangling of the plot along with fan-style lameness......

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    3. Re:more awful than the most awful thing ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why not start at the beginning and do the colour of magic

      Because, and I speak as a die-hard Pratchett fan here, Colour of Magic isn't that good.

    4. Re:more awful than the most awful thing ever by imperialstormtrooper · · Score: 1

      should have done guards! guards!...the night watch rules!

    5. Re:more awful than the most awful thing ever by ShinGouki · · Score: 1

      i'll second that

      although i think personally feet of clay would translate to a powerful movie

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    6. Re:more awful than the most awful thing ever by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      "what do you call a trilogy with 37 parts?"
      Oh, that's easy. "The increasingly inaccurately named Discworld trilogy" ;)

      Apologies to the late Douglas Adams.

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    7. Re:more awful than the most awful thing ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you would film it where?
      You'd have a bit of trouble casting the most important character: Ankh-Morpork.

    8. Re:more awful than the most awful thing ever by imperialstormtrooper · · Score: 1

      cg the city wide city shots, and shoot tighter shots when you film the wonderfully stupid people of A-M... competent casting for the major roles would make up for alot...a great casting for CMOT Dibbler would make me forget the fx alot for the man-on-the-street shots. a bitter english clint eastwood type for vimes would carry the watch scenes.. and bob's your uncle... oh and feet of clay would be a great film. slavery, freedom, and livestock! what more could you want?

  69. I'm sorry . . . by Tetsugaku-San · · Score: 0, Troll

    but COME ON people!! That trailer is shockingly tat!! I could film a better movie with my camera phone and I could probably get better acting from a paper bag.

    Someone please release the trolls.

    1. Re:I'm sorry . . . by xchino · · Score: 1

      Put your money where your big mouth is and lets see it then.

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  70. Canadian? by Anarkhia · · Score: 1

    This looks like it could have come from the talented, professional Canadian movie producers!

  71. Re:Adding the "books that should be movies" subthr by anothy · · Score: 1
    Gavin Scott, the Butcher of Earthsea, should not be allowed to read or write ever again.
    mightn't that have been the problem in the first place?
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    i speak for myself and those who like what i say.
  72. are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when you have no budget, that doesnt mean you can make crap and say 'but we had no budget'.

    it means you should work with what you have but still make it look good.

    the CG effects... they were worthy of a 1991 era video game.

    the lighting was awful.

    the 'editing' was done faster than an MTV video.

    you cannot tell what on earth is going on.

    the dialog is redundant and pointless.

    reading off a list of mythological characters
    cribbed from tolkien ... that is not a movie
    trailer unless you are a 10 year old kid.

    real movies have characters.

    for someone who has never read the books, this
    looked almost unwatchable.

  73. Re:Adding the "books that should be movies" subthr by DimGeo · · Score: 1

    What about Asimov's Eternity-Robots-Empire-Foundation grand series?

  74. Approved? by Megane · · Score: 1

    I know this was probably already taken care of, and I can't really see him having any problem with it, but nowhere (with a quick skim through TFL and this slashdot article) have I seen anyone say that pterry actually approved this. Or are they keeping it in the Luggage, because I'm not going near that thing.

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    1. Re:Approved? by CormacJ · · Score: 1
      Actually it is:

      From the making of:

      During the film making process I got to know Catskind and David Hodges. They introduced me to the "Wadfest Bunch" and I learned there is a real and really working international Discworld Fandom. I also learned you can not just make a film out of every book you like even if it is just (and only) for fun and for your own private use. So I signed the contract with Terry Pratchett and... ...now the film is for everyone!

  75. Funny trivia: Garlick=Knobloch by henni16 · · Score: 1

    To quote the cast list:
    Magrat Garlick (Julia Knobloch)
    The German translation of "garlic" is "Knoblauch", only a little different from "Knoblauch - as "garlick" is different from "garlic"
    And in fact, "Magrat Garlick" really is named "Magrat Knobloch" in the German translation of the Discworld series :-)

  76. How much do you want to bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That the grandparent poster is an executive trying to justify his pathetic existence and overinflated salary? Sorry, buddy, all wealth is created by the working class. Managers and executives are leaches on the backs of the productive, creative people of the world.

    1. Re:How much do you want to bet... by megrims · · Score: 1

      Without a vision, the people will perish Unfortunately, as you have ~clearly demonstrated, people need leadership. The working class are working class because they need people to tell them what to do.

  77. Language by Scutter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can't tell from the website. Is the film in English or German?

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  78. Re:Adding the "books that should be movies" subthr by bhima · · Score: 1

    Given that the script can not be classified as writing, yes.

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  79. Movies? ewwww. by wraith0x29a · · Score: 1

    I saw an interview recently on the BBC's breakfast show (I think) where Mr Pratchett was asked if there were any plans to make Discworld movies. His response was something along the lines of.. "Nope, I'm rich enough, why would I let someone bugger up my books for Hollywood." So this amateur affair may be as good as it gets movie wise. He loves the theatrical versions as they are transient and mostly good fun but I can't see any big-budget (ie. enough to buy a car) Discworld movies coming soon.

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    1. Re:Movies? ewwww. by dbIII · · Score: 1
      "Nope, I'm rich enough, why would I let someone bugger up my books for Hollywood."
      He's seen how much time Neil Gaiman sank into the prospect of a movie of "Good Omens" which they wrote together. Neil Gaiman did a few good short stories about the frustrations of an english writer going to Hollywood.
  80. Bad Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels can possibly translate well to the big screen. A lot of the fun of a Discworld novel isn't in exactly what happens or what is said, but in how Pratchett describes it. Example, describing an assassin moving over the rooftops: "One might say that he moved like a cat, except that he didn't stop to spray urine up against things."

  81. fanimatrix by oneishy · · Score: 1

    Is this the same group that did fanimatrix?

  82. pron by PoopJuggler · · Score: 1

    That would make an awesome porno

  83. nominations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This film deserves an oscar !!111!

  84. Both good & bad by SalesEngineer · · Score: 1
    Good: anybody can make a movie on the internet. Bad: anybody can make a movie on the internet.

    Good for them creating such a big project ... but it really doesn't look as good as the majority of the fan films I have seen. It doesn't really create the illusion of being in another world, which is really required for Pratchett. The effects are not very "special", given what is now available for your PC.

    The 300 euros is a non-factor in my mind. We did over an hour of slide & video material for Dragon*ConTV 2004 last year and barely spent any money. It took months off of my life, but it was a lot of fun (already started on the next season). We borrowed a lot of stuff, so somebody spent money (just like "free" software still requires somebody to buy the developer's computer).

  85. Shouldn't that be "Fan Group Creates..." by Peter+Allan · · Score: 1

    Nit picked.

  86. It is MY university! by DancesWithBlowTorch · · Score: 1

    I can't believe my eyes. Two links from slashdot. Directly to my university. In this very moment, I've got a ssh-shell open on the slashdotted server. And I am happy to inform you that it is working nicely. :-)

    To give a few insider informations: This (rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~jknoblo2) is a student account. This girl is hosting her movie on the free account that every student in Heidelberg gets! Oh this is just so cool. Now I have to go out and find her... ;-)

  87. Music used by ed · · Score: 1

    Given Mr Pratchetts dismissive comments about Tolkien a few years back one wonders how he feels about the use of Howard Shore's LoTR soundtrack on the trailer

  88. Only 300 euros! by OrthodonticJake · · Score: 1

    And that's cuttin' their own throats, that is.

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  89. Nah, the Armageddon trilogy first.... by cliveholloway · · Score: 1

    Who could resist a film about Elvis travelling through time with a Brussel Sprout called Barry?!!!

    cLive; -)

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  90. Oryx and Crake vs Hollywood by tjwhaynes · · Score: 1
    I'll add Oryx and Crake by Margret Atwood. Terrific book, much film potential.

    I agree with you there about the book. I think that would be a pretty tough book to film though - the main character would have to vocalise much of his thoughts to give some indication of what is going on and I fear that if Hollywood got their hands on it, it might have a happy ending (Oryx lives! AArrrrrgghhh!) much as happened to the original cinematic releases of Brazil and Bladerunner, both of which had happy/er ending sequences bolted on.

    Cheers,
    Toby Haynes

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    1. Re:Oryx and Crake vs Hollywood by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      "the main character would have to vocalise much of his thoughts" means voice-over. I rather like voiceovers, they provide content when other movies are letting the cinemetographer wank-off.

      for instance, show a scene of our protagonist walking/eating etc to set some mood and voiceover some techincal plot elements.

  91. togdor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really thought this was a joke after seeing similar material on homestarrunner.com. seriously http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html

  92. Statistics, please! by alienmole · · Score: 1

    See if you can find out how much bandwidth this Slashdotting uses up. In fact, you could do a report on it and submit it to Slashdot, and be famous! :)

  93. Soul Music by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 1
    I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the earlier Discworld effort. the animated Soul Music. Does 7 episodes at 25 minutes each count as "full length"? It was fun, although I'm afraid my imagination skewed a few things a little differently (Death playing electric guitar looked a lot cooler in my mind's eye).

    In perusing IMDB, I found that there's also Wyrd Sisters and Welcome to Discworld. Haven't seen either, although the later is supposed to be on my Soul Music DVD.

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  94. I want to see this by serutan · · Score: 1

    Fan productions are always fun.
    row 2 column 2 = hotness.

  95. One minor nitpick by techno-vampire · · Score: 2, Informative

    A number of characters in the story, such as Granny Wetherwax, Nanny Ogg and the various wizards are supposed to be fairly old. Alas, you can see that the actors and actresses are much too young. Proper makeup would have helped, for those of us familiar with the series. Even so, it doesn't spoil the film, it's just a little bit of "that's not right; they're too young" when you first see them. I'm sure I'll stop paying attention to it quickly when I see it.

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  96. thats funny by geekoid · · Score: 1

    and me with no mod points.

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  97. _Nightwatch_ by Wolfkin · · Score: 1

    It doesn't really need the earlier books. _Nightwatch_ was the first Discworld novel I ever read, and it was excellent, even though I didn't have the benefit of knowing all that backstory.

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    1. Re:_Nightwatch_ by nagora · · Score: 1
      It doesn't really need the earlier books.

      Is is a good book in itself but the emotional connection with Vimes that had been built up over the series gave it an extra punch. Without that I think it's "just" a very good book; with it, it's a great book.

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  98. Some day he will die by geekoid · · Score: 1

    and then his estate will be more then happy to make more millions.

    P.S. are you sure he didn't say Holy Wood?

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  99. Also worth checking out... by CharlesDonHall · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of another fan project, Heatherly and Julie's Fantasy Bedtime Hour. It's the film version of Stephen R. Donaldson's "The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever", but it's a spoof rather than a straight remake.

    It's been running for the past two years on public access cable in San Francisco, or you can download the episodes from their website.

  100. Wrong - New readers don't listen to him. by geekoid · · Score: 1

    If you do not read the series in order, you will be seriously loosing out.

    I was told they didn't need to be read in order when I started.

    You miss out on a lot of humor, and refrences if you dn't read them in order. Sure, you can understand the story, but you miss the character releations and histories.

    At worse, read them whin context groups. Read all the Vimes stuff in order, and the witrches stuff, etc. Of course, how is a new reader supposed to know whats what?

    No my friends, read them in order. Every book store near me has them complete collection. Sadly, they don't get put into used book place very often; Which should tell you something about their quality.

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  101. Looks like... by axonal · · Score: 1

    Looks like a bad german porno... Perhaps they filmed on the site for Lord of the G-Strings?

  102. Because by geekoid · · Score: 1

    There can only be one movie made at a time.

    You do relze someone could to Rankin, and someone else could do Pratchett, right?

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  103. Re:I have a torrent... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google is your friend. Enjoy!

  104. Re:Adding the "books that should be movies" subthr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about Asimov's Eternity-Robots-Empire-Foundation grand series?

    Asimov has never been treated particularly well by filmmakers. I haven't seen the "I, Robot", but from what I've heard it might be worth a rental some weekend. However, that isn't the only movie to be made from his stories.

    Remember "Bicenntenial Man", with Robin Williams, several years ago? That was a disappointment. Not that it was a horrible but the adaption seemed more like a thrid generation Pinocchio retelling, then either the original short story or the novella. (Of course it was better than the vanity piece Dustin Hoffman turned "The Postman" into!)

    Mere text can not convey the pain induced by both attempts to make a movie out of "Nightfall".

    So no, I don't want to see someone playing a Hollywood version Harry Seldon on the big screen anytime soon.

  105. Be scared , be very scared.. by pabloa · · Score: 1

    This is why we have birth control ...

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  106. mod answer up by tuc · · Score: 1

    I can't tell from the website. Is the film in English or German?

    That's exactly what I want to know. I couldn't find a hint on the uni-heidelberg pages.
    I was also hoping to find more details on the contract with Pratchett.

    Someone answer this, then the rest of you mod it up. :)

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  107. It is MY village by xmartinx · · Score: 1

    OMG i can't believe it ^^ i know the locations, i know most of the people that appear, some even are at my school... and i also took part in the movie (but happily i haven't found myself in the trailer XD ) (i think the girl from heidelberg is the queen of the elfs but i'm not sure...)

  108. "Considered" considered ignorant by Macrobat · · Score: 1
    Look at how badly music translates into movies, or how poorly a sculpture translates into a song.
    That's a lame-brained analogy. Books and movies have a lot of overlapping areas: they both have stories, they both have characters, they both have settings, themes and tone.

    Would you say that drawing badly translates into painting, or that pipe organ music badly translates into orchestral scores? Well, then Michelangelo and J.S. Bach would disagree. And these are closer analogies to books-into-movies than the contrived examples you came up with.

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  109. The Annotated Pratchett by Suchetha · · Score: 1

    take a dekko at the Annotated Pratchett File it will explain quite a few of the jokes and references. you may miss out on the joy of catching them out later when you know more though..

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  110. Re:Adding the "books that should be movies" subthr by Calroth · · Score: 1

    Whilst we're on Stephenson, I always thought that Zodiac would make a great film, better than his other books. It's the right length, the right pace, has an asshole protagonist, and sweeping views of Boston Harbor.