Oh no.....It's really much much simpler and obvious than that.
They are arrogant! Really ARROGANT! So Arrogant that they continue to practice anti-competitive behaviour after being found guilty of breaking federal anti-trust law.
I mean how can MS be doing something wrong now, as they have already been busted, they can't do it again... Sort of arrogance.
You know it's true!
MS has kept others, competitors, out of shows they controlled in the past, but Linux should be better, give them a chance to leave on their own.
Other exhibitors don't want to get caught up in anything questionable in regards to MS getting to and setting up and showing and breaking down.... Beside alot of fun can be had at MS expense.
But there is nothing stopping visitors on their way out, to stop by and express to MS what they think of all the FUD MS has been spreading. Preferable in pointing out, in a very professional manner, how un-professional and outright dishonest such FUD MS has been doing against the GPL and such, is. While carefully pasting kick me signs on the backs MS booth tenders (including any security MS feels they need to hire). (But do it in a very professional manner. Embrace and Attach.)
Some might even be so kind to want to bring them some pies.....Now what flavor of pie does Bill Like?
I have no doubt that it would only take a little civil effort to convert the MS booth tenders over to GPL. Simply by communicating to them in all the harmless humorous creative ways I know the Linux crowd can come up with.
That during times of social stress, such as war and/or poor economic times, the film industry does better.
The reasoning is quite simple. People want to excape the harshness of reality, even if only for the break of 2 hours.
I suspect the record industry wouldn't had noticed any decline, but perhaps even a boost, had they not pissed, moaned, and called consumers pirates in general (which doesn't help the consumer excape anything).
If MS did not make it clear up front that there was such differences in the product, including the EULA, than they need to provide a way to undo the installation of the patch. Otherwise they are practicing "Consumer Entrapment Abuse".
It's good to see that the positive economic ripple effect of open source is and is going to continue to happen, despite the resistance of closed source companies like MS claiming they are bringing the new economy in and FUD against open source.
I have no doubt that future research in this area will produce such information that weighs heavy against closed source.
What about redirecting non-deliverables?
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It seems so redundant and inherently error prone to look at a spam map when this very day I have received so far 9 bad mail returns for email spam I never sent out.
Apparently some of them don't even want to receive such information that would remove non-valid email address and so set it up where it spams someone with non-deliverable spam returns.
I'd say the sum total of spam really only helps waste bandwidth (especially since I delete all spam with only reading enough to determine it is spam. like a quick glance at the header)
Isn't it bad enough that IE is default setup to DL a web page for viewing in teh browser, and then again if you print it, and then again if you save it to file? (I suspect MS IE is not anywhere near as popular as it may appear to be in web traffic requests)
I have to clean my email more often because of all the spam. Last time I found 8 or so megabytes of drive space being eaten up with spam and that doesn't even include the attachments.
This really should have started out as a cottage industry, as so much else has in the computer industry. But Autocoding really is the solution direction to such software problems.
This is dumb, why not just make an attachable flat/touch screen system that you can put where ever and have sensors or whatever that communicate with it....
Lets' face it, the computer industry is running out of steam and I bet the idea is to force it on people by removing the options to get otherwise.
not to mention the monthly internet connect charges
COMDEX SPRING and WINDOWS WORLD 95 Power Panel - "What's Wrong with Software Development" ** In The U.S. Only ** $81 Billion = 31% of software development gets cancelled before complete
$59 Billion = 53% of software development has cost over-runs of 189%
16% success - project success and failure ratio
61% customer requested features and functions make it in
Maintenance and repair is where most of the U.S. dollars are going, instead of new, better, easier to use software.
---- Overall ----
Problems - all-around lack of complete documentation and weak training, faulty user input and feed back - self contradictory user request, lack of project leadership between developers and users, management created problems and low quality control standards, feature creep and software size increase, advancing technology rate of change and lack of general standards, solutions around the corner but never arrive and our tools are better than theirs attitude, lack of a value chain structure for value added abilities, failure to produce a functional model before coding and constant remodeling, etc.
Solution directions - code re-use, object oriented programming, component-based programming, distributed components, better tools, better programming methodologies, leaner software, a splitting of code writer types into two catagories - architects and assemblers, better effort to establish a working vocabulary between developers and users so users can in some way lead development, etc.
---- A Few Comments from Panel Members ----
A culture needs to evolve that respect software engineers as crafts-people. Writing code is not just writing code but like the field of writing where you have technical, creative, documentary, etc., there are different types of code writing. (Authors' note: I agree with this but also realize end users are even more specialized in what they need and do. Respect for the end user needs and abilities is needed even more so. Without respect given to the end user, the software engineer will not be given respect in return.)
A fundamental change in the programming environment needs to happen that allows the tools to work together more. (Authors' note: the panel member making this comment, did not specify what tools or who the tools would be used by. It was a very general comment pointing to a fundamental programming environment change. A lead in to the concept of componet programming. But, there was no recognition given to the concept of componet software or componet applications. At least not in the sense of being outside of "plugins". Read on!)
Jokingly - one of the best ways to copy protect software is to put it in a dll, give it an obscure name and put it in the windows system directory. Because you'd never find it. (Authors' note: This does not make it any easier for the end user in keeping their system organized, clean and optimized. This attitude of constraints, though humorous, cost end users alot.)
The meaning of "intellectual property" became questioned. Did it mean you take the best ideas or something owned? (Authors' note: it was the panel supporting "best ideas" but wouldn't the correct term for this use be "intellectual value" rather than "intellectual property"? What would happen, regarding this, in a court room? The audience member whom brought this up, was a bit angry about the distortion. Her question was: Is it the developers whom are creating the problems? And what are the developers going to do about it? The responce was "that's not the problem!")
Users shouldn't develope software but know, better than the developers, what they want and need. (Authors' note: users don't have the time to write code, it's not their job or duties!!! I can cut the lawn, I know how, but if I don't have the time, I hire someone. And because I know how to better communicate what I want done, I'll get what I want and know I'll not be greatly overcharged.)
Analogy used to start off power panel: Getting the right software development tools is alot like dating. And it evolved to something about programmers not being able to get dates, while touching a nerve with a panel member. (I do wonder if Phillip Khan (sp? borland, ever got a girl friend.)
(Author observation from attending this gathering - alot of good points where brought up from both the audience and members of the panel but it became clear there was no solution being brought forward to satisfy the majority. The audience saw this as it thinned out over the course, as they perceived the power panel struggling for a sales pitch. There where two on the panel not biased due their position, leaving six biased. Microsoft, Borland, Powersoft, Oracle, Software Associates, and IBM were the biased parties.)
Panel mix - Tools developers, Data Base Developers, Application Developers, Application salvagers, and software consultants.
------ AND FROM ------
SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN - Sept. 1994 Article - "Software's Chronic Crisis" The article covers much the same ground as the above but with a focus and flavor of the magazine. The article also goes more into solution efforts with software development on large scale projects. But finding consistent solutions are still hard to come by.
Mass-produced PC products makes up less than 10% of the $92.8 billion U.S. software market.
Mary M. Shaw of Carnegie Mellon University, observes a parallel between chemical engineering evolution and software engineering evolution. However, this evolution has not made the connection between science and commercialization required to establish a consistent experimental foundation for professional software engineering. ---
What this amounts to is the lack of Computer science to develope Autocoding machinery that can be more widely used and further developed.
Programming is the act of automating complexity, that is made up of simpler things, so that the reuse of it is made easy. Be it for the developer level or the newbie end user.
The field of programming seems to be able to automate any other field but their own and that results in the limitation of just how much can actually get done in a given time period. Not to mention all the bogus junk it allow to happen.
What happens when Market A wants to commoditize their products' complements which is Market B and Market B wants to commoditize their products' complements which is Market A.
Ok so that's a simple version, but in a bigger mix where you have markets a-z...
Seems to me that the bottom line is the physical based stuff, the hardware or whatever the physical products is.
You either have a product or a service, or some combination.
Anyway, in the one market wants to commoditize their products' complements market, doesn't the equasion sum up to a potential contridiction? Where everthing becomes free and the only way to track ones worth in trade is to come up with some sort of pure abstract digital value exchange system to account for how much "free" that have generated?
The level of liability in other industries is dependant upon the job/product contract where included in the contract may be a required level of liability coverage and like insurance, the more coverage you pay for the greater amount of liability you are covered for.
And I'd imagine that like health insurance where you get a discount on the cost of the coverage for being a non-smoker or practicing preventitive medicine, the same sorts of liability coverage would apply and take into account software licenses approved by the OSI, such as GPL.
Mindspring, years before earthlink obtained them, determined that there are those who don't like my presence anywhere on the internet and follow me around to give me a hard time by what amounts to in legal terms, Libel.
is that it really does help to expose the greed of the music industry. And this is useful in defending against them in other efforts they have to constrain the consumer.
I really do believe they are shooting themselves in the foot in their assumption of associating the consumer to being theives.
And didn't MS get themselves busted in an act of harming themselves in order to constrain others?
file sharing simple increases the hearing range, not to mention the inherent sight/site range of artist and song names.
Come to think of it, so does free web radio.... thinking of the battle against this too. Though not so much on the sight range of seeing artist and title names.
generally speaking it seems that consumers in general are being accused of being dishonest. And with such negative noise regarding the consumer, perhaps the slight decline (account to the reccession) wouldn't have existed if the music industry would get off it's calling consumers dishonest.
Personally I have no interest in the proposed overhead and stress generating crap that only makes it confusing as to where or not I can actually hear what I paid money for.
Music is used to help reduce stress, but if the music industry is going to counter this, then I can do without paying for it.
Imagine the usefulness of this as it could be used to automatically send a request for the latest version of GNU/Linux to the most available mirror. Seems there only need be an agreement switch to participate in such distributed computing network.
Oh wait! Would this make slashdotting a site a thing of the past?
Slashdot Mirror
Oh no.....It's really much much simpler and obvious than that.
They are arrogant! Really ARROGANT! So Arrogant that they
continue to practice anti-competitive behaviour after being
found guilty of breaking federal anti-trust law.
I mean how can MS be doing something wrong now, as they have
already been busted, they can't do it again... Sort of arrogance.
You know it's true!
MS has kept others, competitors, out of shows they controlled in
the past, but Linux should be better, give them a chance to leave
on their own.
Other exhibitors don't want to get caught up in anything questionable
in regards to MS getting to and setting up and showing and breaking
down.... Beside alot of fun can be had at MS expense.
But there is nothing stopping visitors on their way out, to stop by
and express to MS what they think of all the FUD MS has been spreading.
Preferable in pointing out, in a very professional manner, how
un-professional and outright dishonest such FUD MS has been doing
against the GPL and such, is. While carefully pasting kick me signs
on the backs MS booth tenders (including any security MS feels they
need to hire). (But do it in a very professional manner. Embrace and
Attach.)
Some might even be so kind to want to bring them some pies.....Now
what flavor of pie does Bill Like?
I have no doubt that it would only take a little civil effort to
convert the MS booth tenders over to GPL. Simply by communicating to
them in all the harmless humorous creative ways I know the Linux
crowd can come up with.
Just don't be Arrogant in doing it.
That during times of social stress, such as war and/or poor economic times, the film industry does better.
The reasoning is quite simple. People want to excape the harshness of reality, even if only for the break of 2 hours.
I suspect the record industry wouldn't had noticed any decline, but perhaps even a boost, had they not pissed, moaned,
and called consumers pirates in general (which doesn't help the consumer excape anything).
This should lead to and answer or verification of your statement
This story should be brought back up like a day or two before it begins
If MS did not make it clear up front that there was such differences in the product, including the EULA, than they need to provide a way to undo the installation of the patch.
Otherwise they are practicing "Consumer Entrapment Abuse".
It's good to see that the positive economic ripple effect of open source is and is going to continue to happen, despite the resistance of closed source companies like MS claiming they are bringing the new economy in and FUD against open source.
I have no doubt that future research in this area will produce such information that weighs heavy against closed source.
It seems so redundant and inherently error prone to look at a spam map when this very day I have received so far 9 bad mail returns for email spam I never sent out.
Apparently some of them don't even want to receive such information that would remove non-valid email address and so set it up where it spams someone with non-deliverable spam returns.
I'd say the sum total of spam really only helps waste bandwidth (especially since I delete all spam with only reading enough to determine it is spam. like a quick glance at the header)
Isn't it bad enough that IE is default setup to DL a web page for viewing in teh browser, and then again if you print it, and then again if you save it to file?
(I suspect MS IE is not anywhere near as popular as it may appear to be in web traffic requests)
I have to clean my email more often because of all the spam. Last time I found 8 or so megabytes of drive space being eaten up with spam and that doesn't even include the attachments.
This really should have started out as a cottage industry, as so much else has in the computer industry. But Autocoding really is the solution direction to such software problems.
Or being able to prevent an accident?
Hmmmmmm...
Wasn't Microsoft found guilty of Criminally breaking federal anti-trust law?
Or maybe I'm confused?
That is exactly what it means in computer double speak.
They were talking about "our" meaning "them."
This is dumb, why not just make an attachable flat/touch screen system that you can put where ever and have sensors or whatever that communicate with it....
Lets' face it, the computer industry is running out of steam and I bet the idea is to force it on people by removing the options to get otherwise.
not to mention the monthly internet connect charges
Hmmm, what's Free Software Foundation about again?
------ FROM ------
COMDEX SPRING and WINDOWS WORLD 95
Power Panel - "What's Wrong with Software Development"
** In The U.S. Only **
$81 Billion = 31% of software development gets cancelled before complete
$59 Billion = 53% of software development has cost over-runs of 189%
16% success - project success and failure ratio
61% customer requested features and functions make it in
Maintenance and repair is where most of the U.S. dollars are going,
instead of new, better, easier to use software.
---- Overall ----
Problems - all-around lack of complete documentation and weak training, faulty user input and feed back - self contradictory user request, lack of project leadership between developers and users, management created problems and low quality control standards, feature creep and software size increase, advancing technology rate of change and lack of general standards, solutions around the corner but never arrive and our tools are better than theirs attitude, lack of a value chain structure for value added abilities, failure to produce a functional model before coding and constant remodeling, etc.
Solution directions - code re-use, object oriented programming, component-based programming, distributed components, better tools, better programming methodologies, leaner software, a splitting of code writer types into two catagories - architects and assemblers, better effort to establish a working vocabulary between developers and users so users can in some way lead development, etc.
---- A Few Comments from Panel Members ----
A culture needs to evolve that respect software engineers as crafts-people. Writing code is not just writing code but like the field of writing where you have technical, creative, documentary, etc., there are different types of code writing. (Authors' note: I agree with this but also realize end users are even more specialized in what they need and do. Respect for the end user needs and abilities is needed even more so. Without respect given to the end user, the software engineer will not be given respect in return.)
A fundamental change in the programming environment needs to happen that allows the tools to work together more. (Authors' note: the panel member making this comment, did not specify what tools or who the tools would be used by. It was a very general comment pointing to a fundamental programming environment change. A lead in to the concept of componet programming. But, there was no recognition given to the concept of componet software or componet applications. At least not in the sense of being outside of "plugins". Read on!)
Jokingly - one of the best ways to copy protect software is to put it in a dll, give it an obscure name and put it in the windows system directory. Because you'd never find it. (Authors' note: This does not make it any easier for the end user in keeping their system organized, clean and optimized. This attitude of constraints, though humorous, cost end users alot.)
The meaning of "intellectual property" became questioned. Did it mean you take the best ideas or something owned? (Authors' note: it was the panel supporting "best ideas" but wouldn't the correct term for this use be "intellectual value" rather than "intellectual property"? What would happen, regarding this, in a court room? The audience member whom brought this up, was a bit angry about the distortion. Her question was: Is it the developers whom are creating the problems? And what are the developers going to do about it? The responce was "that's not the problem!")
Users shouldn't develope software but know, better than the developers, what they want and need. (Authors' note: users don't have the time to write code, it's not their job or duties!!! I can cut the lawn, I know how, but if I don't have the time, I hire someone. And because I know how to better communicate what I want done, I'll get what I want and know I'll not be greatly overcharged.)
Analogy used to start off power panel: Getting the right software development tools is alot like dating. And it evolved to something about programmers not being able to get dates, while touching a nerve with a panel member. (I do wonder if Phillip Khan (sp? borland, ever got a girl friend.)
(Author observation from attending this gathering - alot of good points where brought up from both the audience and members of the panel but it became clear there was no solution being brought forward to satisfy the majority. The audience saw this as it thinned out over the course, as they perceived the power panel struggling for a sales pitch. There where two on the panel not biased due their position, leaving six biased. Microsoft, Borland, Powersoft, Oracle, Software Associates, and IBM were the biased parties.)
Panel mix - Tools developers, Data Base Developers, Application Developers, Application salvagers, and software consultants.
------ AND FROM ------
SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN - Sept. 1994
Article - "Software's Chronic Crisis"
The article covers much the same ground as the above but with a focus and flavor of the magazine. The article also goes more into solution efforts with software development on large scale projects. But finding consistent solutions are still hard to come by.
Mass-produced PC products makes up less than 10% of the $92.8 billion U.S. software market.
Mary M. Shaw of Carnegie Mellon University, observes a parallel between chemical engineering evolution and software engineering evolution. However, this evolution has not made the connection between science and commercialization required to establish a consistent experimental foundation for professional software engineering.
---
What this amounts to is the lack of Computer science to develope Autocoding machinery that can be more widely used and further developed.
Programming is the act of automating complexity, that is made up of simpler things, so that the reuse of it is made easy. Be it for the developer level or the newbie end user.
The field of programming seems to be able to automate any other field but their own and that results in the limitation of just how much can actually get done in a given time period. Not to mention all the bogus junk it allow to happen.
What happens when Market A wants to commoditize their products' complements which is Market B and Market B wants to commoditize their products' complements which is Market A.
Ok so that's a simple version, but in a bigger mix where you have markets a-z...
Seems to me that the bottom line is the physical based stuff, the hardware or whatever the physical products is.
You either have a product or a service, or some combination.
Anyway, in the one market wants to commoditize their products' complements market, doesn't the equasion sum up to a potential contridiction? Where everthing becomes free and the only way to track ones worth in trade is to come up with some sort of pure abstract digital value exchange system to account for how much "free" that have generated?
Maybe I'm missing something here.
The level of liability in other industries is dependant upon the job/product contract
where included in the contract may be a required level of liability coverage and like
insurance, the more coverage you pay for the greater amount of liability you are
covered for.
And I'd imagine that like health insurance where you get a discount on the cost
of the coverage for being a non-smoker or practicing preventitive medicine, the
same sorts of liability coverage would apply and take into account software
licenses approved by the OSI, such as GPL.
Mindspring, years before earthlink obtained them, determined that there are those who don't like my presence anywhere on the internet and follow me around to give me a hard time by what amounts to in legal terms, Libel.
Guess that is why you are Anon...
is that it really does help to expose the greed of the music industry. And this is useful in defending against them in other efforts they have to constrain
the consumer.
I really do believe they are shooting themselves in the foot in their assumption of associating the consumer to being theives.
And didn't MS get themselves busted in an act of harming themselves in order to constrain others?
along the lines of out of sight, out of mind.
file sharing simple increases the hearing range,
not to mention the inherent sight/site range of
artist and song names.
Come to think of it, so does free web radio....
thinking of the battle against this too. Though not
so much on the sight range of seeing artist and title
names.
generally speaking it seems that consumers in general
are being accused of being dishonest. And with such
negative noise regarding the consumer, perhaps the slight
decline (account to the reccession) wouldn't have existed
if the music industry would get off it's calling consumers
dishonest.
Personally I have no interest in the proposed overhead and stress
generating crap that only makes it confusing as to where or not
I can actually hear what I paid money for.
Music is used to help reduce stress, but if the music industry
is going to counter this, then I can do without paying for it.
Seems to me that real problem is in the design stage and failure to consider all relative conditions and required constraints.
As a general understanding and practice in software engineering.
Two months of paying worker(s) to fix a bug vs. 3 days for (are they paid or not?) to fix a lessor bug.
If this is any indication of the complexity of the MS bug, then perhaps MS should consider rewritting the related part rather than patching it.
Oh wait, there is the difference. after so many versions (3) of an OS, they start over.
Practice makes perfect, keep up the good work MS, someday you just might master OS creation.
Imagine the usefulness of this as it could be used to automatically send a request for the latest version of GNU/Linux to the most available mirror. Seems there only need be an agreement switch to participate in such distributed computing network.
Oh wait! Would this make slashdotting a site a thing of the past?
Oh how the computer industry matrix has made people afraid of freedom. Or maybe they just want a pill to go with things.
The way this is used here, does it like mean white lies?
Is it going to be turned into brown paper with all the shit that in it?
Who else do they do research for so that maybe we can inform their customers of their misdeads?!
People have the right to know the truth.
IS anyone going to write a clear paper on bringing clairity to that paper?
Who is their target that they think the paper will influence ???
Getting Paid for OSS example?