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ooglek writes: "You thought you had every gadget made, until this came along. The new Internet Fridge from LG Appliances. Not only does it keep your food from perishing, but it plays MP3s, TV, a list of the food actually in your fridge, a calendar, and, of course, recipes! Finished in Titanium. Wicked."
I have a computer, and a Tv, why the hell would I want a fridge that does a poor job at what the separate machines do well.
And I'm sure I haven't paid as much for them either...
...the LAST thing I want to do is stand infront of the fridge reading emails, /. or any of my other fave sites. Much rather be relaxing in my chair, RedBull close at hand...
"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand". -Milton F.
You are out of mayonnaise, Dave. Why don't you buy more, Dave.
-JPJ
Feh.
That is very heavy for a fridge isnt it?
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perfect for kitchen devices... think about it, you could poll the temperature of your fridge/oven, see how long's left on the washing cycle, and have a dodgy sample played when your roast dinner is cooked!
if only it were so simple *sigh*
...have done that for a long time. I mean, putting a CPU inside a fridge... nothing new.
Oh, and can you imagine a beowulf cluster of those?
It rises up against it's human masters and bars Man access to beer and twinkies?
Black and grey are both shades of white.
it has a built in barcode scanner that scans your food and will give you a list of what you have in your fridge, there is even a option to order the food if you run out. now that is cool!
keanmarine.com
This fridge has been around for a long time, more than a year at least. Why post it now?
And, I don't mean junk email, I mean actual spam. I sure don't want that stuff showing up in my fridge! Ewww!
And getting cooler.
I'd like to see it run NetBSD
Emails in your trash box will be automatically deleted. However, you are responsible for the rotten food.
Not to sound sexist, but there are millions of soccer moms out there for whom this would be a valuable and useful tool. IM'ing with the husband at work, displaying calendar of practice times and PTA meetings, reading discussion groups for the next trip to the Magic Kingdom.... With the kids running around all day it is impossible to take time out sitting in the study in front of the desktop PC.
This isn't for
Next thing you know, they'll have a CPU that can cook a roast. Oh wait, Intel did that already - the Pentium 4 @ 2.53 GHz.
you can set up a cron job to order beer.
This is seriously cool. And I want one yesterday.
This will be bigger than pets.com ...
Why is it that companies want to put computers into everything nowadays? I mean, my brother has a washing machine from LG that is pretty cool, it doesn't play Mp3's but it does add functionality (i.e. it determines the size of load etc). But when you start talking about fridges that can play mp3's/display calender's etc... that is getting a bit overboard. Personally I'd rather listen to mp3's on a proper stereo with nice speakers that can reproduce sound well. Sure it can do other things, but we can do them already albeit with much older technology in use, for example: leaving messages for other family members can be done with a pen and paper. I shudder to think at the cost of this monstrosity.
So where is the handy dandy dorm room size version?
Hell, you sit your PC on top of it and have a hell of a cooling system.
Leben Sie jetzt die Fragen.
#/sbin/unlockdoor
unlockdoor: Sorry, I think you've had enough to eat today.
Aw, fuck it. Let's go bowling. - The Big Lebowski
somewhere to put those Athalon XP's!
I use Macs to up my productivity, so up yours Microsoft!
probably. I couldn't find an actual price anywhere on the page. Why is it that companies will hide the price of something that they know YOU can't afford? Just tease me, I don't care. I just want to know if the fridge is really $20,000.
wouldn't it be great if there was an online, GPL'ed repository for recipes too? oh wait, there is -- ReciPHP -- it's still in beta, but it is already a great categorization and search tool for recipes! like Freshmeat, except with more meat :)
thelocust[dot]org
Isnt this device a bit old? I remember seeing them for sale almost 2 years ago...
Gives new meaning to hacing the (ice)box. Some script kiddie gets changes the date on all the barcoded food, you get food poisoining... The fridge gets a virus and thinks all the food is brussel sprouts.
/. effect and shuts down while voiding your warranty.
Then your wife won't let anyone open the fridge cuz her favorite show is on and you can't get a beer until its over....
You come home and find out that your kid has hacked up apache to run in the freezer and then posted his M0d on Slashdot with the url www.icebboxen.com and your new 5 grand appliance gets the
Christ save me from the internet....
Puto
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
Does it keep things cold?
Bah forget it..
I'll be waiting for the software upgrade with dietary and hygienic advice.
- "That chicken is really going bad... remove it, now, please."
- "Chicken wings again Dave? I am afraid I can't let you have those. How about a healthy salad?"
Sad thing is, I fully expect fridges of the future telling me off for having unhealthy eating habits.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
I hope the temperature isn't software controlled. Who wants to come home and find the beer warm because of some scriptkiddie shutting the fridge down with his ping of death.
a beerowulf cluster of these!
How long until someone hacks this thing to run a server? Then, how long until someone gets one of these things slashdotted? ;)
I've been looking at LG refrigerators, since I'll need to replace my aging Liebherr sometime, but it seems they haven't caught on to the most important innovation of the last century: "Null-Grad Technik" as they call it in Germany, which provides a compartment that stays at 0.5 degrees C (without freezing), instead of the usual 4 C. This keeps many foods fresh two to five times as long, and I don't understand why the other manufacturers don't catch on.
can't it make sweet love to me?
I guess I mean I NEED one of these if I was really really GAY.
I did not see any mention of OS in this fridge. I wonder if the dreaded day has finally come when Microsoft trys to get its .Net fingers into household appliances?
Should be interesting. I won't even bother mentioning some of the obvious places something like this could go.
in the kitchen
so now on Southpark it will be, "get your bitch-ass out of the kitchen and bring me some pie!"
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources - A. E.
"Sorry, folks, it looks like we're ordering pizza. I had been marinating some fantastic szechuan beef, but the fridge crashed and has been alternately freezing and cooking it for the past 12 hours."
Cheers
-b
Or...
"I see you're running low on Miracle Whip so I've taken the liberty of ordering you a crate. You wouldn't want to run out, now would you?"
And what about people who re-use containers? Would my three bean salad and baked beans be counted has having two Country Crock margarines?
No thanks... I prefer the old fashioned exploration of todays modern refrigerators. "Hmmm... Country Crock... Whoops... that's the three bean salad from... ugh... last fourth of July. Better call Hazmat."
Sorry, there are no stores found within 300 miles of your zip code
"Let's see here. You have 1 carton of milk, a block of cheese, a six-pack of corona in the back (minus one, sorry!), a bowl of... hmmm, what is that stuff? Looks disgusting. Did you make that yourself? Get it outta here! And yes, here we are, a bottle of... mmmm, not sure... a bottle of brown stuff, let's just say. You can figure it out later... 12 pack of Mountain Dew, missing a few since last night. Leftover pizza (2 weeks leftover, I might add. Disgusting!) Ughh, what are you, a nerd or something? Perhaps you should find a girl to keep me clean and well stocked. I especially like fruits and vegetables. Such a nice aroma!"
"Would you like me to play you some songs now?"
And thus technology advances...
+1 Insightful, -1 Troll. What can I say, I'm an Insightful Troll.
Can anyone recommend good sites listing recipes ?
I really don't appreciate being compared to a kitchen appliance.
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I got the same message - I wanted to find a store and call to find out how much one of these bad boys cost - no stores within 300 miles of Denver, CO. Does anyone live within 300 miles of one of their stores?
Course, at the rate the forest fires are going, soon there won't be ANYTHING within 300 miles of Denver...
Denver Isuzu Suzuki
You could keep a turd in the fridge, then play an MP3 at the same time! I would play Gangsta's Paradise by Coolio - are U feelin' it?
Rest In Peace, Biggie Smalls!
Who the hell wants to sit there and log in every item of food they have, and log out an item every time they use it. Hell if I paid that much attention to what was in my refrigerator I wouldn't need reminders when I ran out of things!
Other than the severe geek factor that fridge provides, there is no way I'd own one unless I won it, or won the lottery. For as so many have said why do we need those features when we have better for ourselves?
Simple...there are those of us who aren't geeks.
In a day and age where both parents are usually out working, who really has the time to go shopping when you are out of eggs? Heck there may be times where you simply don't know that you are out. Solution? A fridge that can geep track, automatically charge your card at a market that delivers and boom...there's a guy at your door when you get home from work handing you your food and a recipt.
With the fact that the average american family is doing different things at different times, the messaging system comes in handy as well. Also works for the Latchkey children. Push a button and there's Mom explaining what's for dinner, and if they are old enough to cook on thier own...the recipe.
TV, well that's optional, the FM Radio...not a bad idea, the MP3 player...maybe that's a bit much, but don't dis this machine because we geeks think we can build something similar.
Come to think about it, it was probally a geek who was able to sell LG on the idea...and he's living rich now...lucky bastard, lets hunt him down and beat him up for being a smart arse
Phoenix
-- Wiccan Army, 13th Airborne Division "We will not fly silently into the night"
It's a FRIDGE! It's supposed to keep food cool. Who really wants to browse the Web, or read email, while standing in front of the fridge? That's what a computer is for. Just because you can put a computer in everything, doesn't mean you should.
http://www.recipesource.com/ seems to be one of the biggest and best.
The only reason this thing exists is to show you commercials. Advertising is eroding public and private space alike-from the backs of convenience-store gas pumps to the dedication masonry at museums. If an "internet Fridge" ever does become popular, it'll secretly report the contents of your fridge back to a centralized server and show you ads for milk based on your psychographic profile...
Liberate your mind in two clicks or less.
Me: Does it keep the food cold?
Them: Well, not exactly cold... cool maybe, you don't need to worry about the processor overheating, even if you overclock it. You won't believe how quickly it completes a kernel compile. And how many refrigerators can turn out seti@home work units like that?
We all complain and moan and whine that Slashdot are a bunch of sell outs. That they post stories and opinions that are sponsored by corporate interests and not in the interests of the readers.
/. would be the last place you'd see all this bullshit MS propaganda, but alas, we can't get away from it. Slashdot (and qutie possibly OSDN) are a Microsoft funded operation, which means its stories and opinions are those of Microsoft.
Well, today I stumbled upon Slashdot, only to have this ad thrust in my face. (It linked to this location.)
You'd think that
Be even more careful about what you read here.
Why bother.
Wow, a cool fridge !! (I'll just get my coat...)
Never, ever lose a file again. Ever.
Oh right, it was a prank:
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http://www.somethingawful.com/article.php?id=30
We could integrate these fridges with the supermarket web services and have them deliver the beer et al whenever we run low. I hear the thnuders for more XML standards coming...
LOL!
Yeah, I'd tell that fridge to go fuck off!
It'd be like, "wtf?" and I'd be like, "Yeh, who's the bitch now?"
RIP Notorious BIG!!
It's one of the best sites I know of, with over 15000(!!) recipes online, searching is configurable.
Can your beowulf these?
"Consider a future where all appliances with power cords can be networked using universal plug and play including:
computers
telephones
stereos
even refrigerators"
http://www.powerlinecommunications.net/smarthomes. htm
Nice diagram of the LG I-fridge as a "Residential Gateway":
http://www.slfp.com/011302BIZp.htm
"Internet Refrigerator"
http://www.xent.com/FoRK-archive/may98/0121.html
"Can Your Refrigerator Surf?"0 . sp
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,14675,0
But, most of all, I want to point out the comments that my own company makes about *its* I-fridge:
"We created the first Internet refrigerator to show how the Internet will merge into our everyday lives", 00.html
http://au.fujitsu.com/FAL/CDA/Articles/0,1029,546
Taking stuff apart since 1969 (TM)
Here's another story I'm sure you'll believe.
To assert that because Microsoft advertises on slashdot they control it is assanine at best. Anyone who reads this site on a regular basis will consistantly see stories biased against Microsoft. If Microsoft wants to waste their money funding a site that spreads negative information about them, more power to them. I'm confident that Microsoft has no control over slashdot or we wouldn't see so many negative stories about them.
"Sorry, this fridge does not accept cookies. If you want this fridge to accept cookies, please adjust your security settings, close the door and try again."
Height: 38U, Weight: 0 Newtons, Eyes: #0000FF, OS: Gray Matter 1.0 (Alpha)
Just because you can do something, does not mean you have to.
Sometimes we geeks end up doing things just because we can, often without giving a thought about what would such a device achieve.
Time & money on technology that could be better spent otherwise.
:-/
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that would be a "400lb titanium shrapnel grenade"
On the other hand, I have any amount of recipe books which get dirtier each time they are used. I want a webpad with my recipes (fetched from a cache on my stationary box), able to control the volume of MP3 playback on my stereo, which can take spashes of water, being dropped on the floor, with a barcode reader for handling those pesky EAN-128 codes which will probably be used for quality info fairly soon (see the EAN barcode FAQ for more info) and which doesn't have a clunky keyboard, thank you very much.
Oh, and it should be dirt cheap.
You Coloradians and your puny camp fires... think of us poor Arizonans, we're looking at the torching of some 300,000 acres.
Ok, it can keep a calendar, it can leave messages, it can play MP3s, etc. etc
but thanks to the titanium finish:
YOU CAN'T PUT MAGNETS ON IT!!!!
what kind of world is this?
In Capitalist America, bank robs you!
Theres at least 50 near me (zip code 21239), but these are just stores that sell LG products, which doesn't garuntee they'll have the internet fridge.
I fridge is a storage device, not a communications device. Any internet appliances built into it should build on the storage aspect of the fridge. There is nothing mentioned about a barcode scanner that would make it conveinent for making an inventory. There are very few markets that have grocery delivery of ordering via the internet and we don't know if the exsisting services will work with this system.
The ability to leave notes for the kids is novel but the display is too low for most adults and unless that screen tilts outword, it would be difficult to write on.
People don't normally read recipes off the fridge. The store them on the fridge under a magnet but take it off to actually cook so they don't have to walk back and forth to the fridge. Again the screen height doesn't help here.
Many of the food storage features for freshness are already available on many existing refridgerators like GE and Maytag.
It's a big toy for the wealthy that have money to burn on such things. The Titanium finish problably wont match most kitchen styles either IMO. Internet Appliances haven't historically done well. I don't believe this one will either in the mass market.
There is nothing inherently safe about liberty. That's why so many people died protecting it.
Isn't that the only way to run AMD's latest offerings?
Kind thoughts do not change the world
I mean, it has been demonstrated countless times through history that trying to unify unrelated household functions in one appliance bars it from just so many potential buyers.
People who already have either a TV that works, a fridge that works, or a computer that works won't buy it, obviously.
And I sure as hell prefer to have a portable appliance to check my emails while lying on the sofa or in the garden (802.11 r0cks), watch the TV comfortably, and have the fridge in the kitchen, so I don't have to run upstairs or to the living-room to get a fresh egg when cooking.
What are they going to do next ? A washing-machine that surfs the web so you don't stare blankly at your clothes turning and tunring in the machine, but instead go watch some pr0n ?
I wouldn't mind having a fridge that does this. it would be cool if you could get a recipe a day sent to you fridge and then when you come home the fridge has already ordered the ingredients to make that meal. and it counts calories for you.
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If you Arizonans wouldn't set signal fires when you get lost in the woods, maybe you wouldn't have so many problems.
There is a lot of information that is mandatory to put on food today. In EU, this includes an expiration date and list of ingredients (and batch number in some countries), but none of this information can be scanned automatically by the barcode reader in these new fridges.
What we need is a new legislation that makes all food carry this kind of information in machine-readable forms, so that these possibilities become reality:
- When you open the fridge in the morning, the fridge tells you that the milk is too old.
- Visually impaired users can scan the food they take out and get the list of ingredients displayed with large fonts.
- The batch number of the products can be checked via the internet, so that if a company needs to withdraw some food from the market, all fridges that contain that food will issue a warning to the user.
- Users with food allergies can make the fridge warn if the product they scan contains ingredients that the user cannot eat.
The ingredients list can be retrieved via the internet, but that would make correct fridge operation dependent on a stable internet connection.
Lots of easy recipes, but my favorite's got to be:Fh
In other news today. Refrigetator escapes house .. makes it to the parking lot.
Vlad.
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US-UK-Israel: The real Axis of Evil
You know how the saying goes: Amercians shower every day and shop once a week. In Europe its the other way around.
Vlad
US-UK-Israel: The real Axis of Evil
US-UK-Israel: The real Axis of Evil
Haha, I don't know what to say other than read this:
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http://www.somethingawful.com/article.php?id=30
They spend all of that time being clever and screwed
up the design. The display is on the fridge side door.
It should be on the freezer side. You can't inventory
the fridge (the only really useful function) without
closing the door. (open door, got eggs?, close door,
check, open door, got milk, close door, check....)
Granted, the freezer then inherits the problem but
the fridge side is certainly used more often.
Should have been integrated with the ice/water
dispenser. Perhaps a slide-down sreeen or move
the ice dispenser down a bit with the screen above.
Why didn't they ask me about this before building it?
It's like making a traditional laptop with the LCD on the
bottom of the case..
This is dumb, why not just make an attachable flat/touch screen system that you can put where ever and have sensors or whatever that communicate with it....
Lets' face it, the computer industry is running out of steam and I bet the idea is to force it on people by removing the options to get otherwise.
not to mention the monthly internet connect charges
Whenever a company comes up with something like this, I have to wonder if somebody really is putting LSD in our water supply.
Yet another way to pee away hours and hours of your life accomplishing nothing useful. Then your kid uses a magnet to put up his latest drawing and scrambles the whole system.
Really, was this designed by Microsoft? Why must every appliance do everything. Can't we have simple devices that do one job well?
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
Great, now where's the toaster?
Sorry, Dave, I can't do that...
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
Just think of the possibilities for this, especially if there's also a webcam on the thing. You can use the TV functions to watch Iron Chef while you're cooking, or have the refrigerator tell you what the Mystery Ingredient you'll be using for dinner tonight will be, or if you've got a high-speed net connection (which anybody spending money on this overpriced toy probably does ;-), you can run your own Iron Chef game with your friends....
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
Sorry. Keep the bugs out of the kitchen :-) Just having a refrigerator that can traq where the bugs are isn't good enough....
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
OK, I haven't actually *read* usenet in years, but that was the canonical place for this sort of thing before it the internet got popular and Usenet got spammed to death.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
This is one casemod story that I don't mind reading :-)
*Not a Sermon, Just a Thought
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http://www.lge.com/about/rnd/think/homenet.shtml
/. is being used to blatently advertise M$ products.
Seeing as this fridge uses a new comms standard called upnp, developed by both M$ and LG, It sounds like this fridge runs windows. I'd rather not pull the fridge out of the wall just to reset the thing. And when the fridge "crashes", do you lose all your food?
The story claims that recipies in the fridge can be updated through the internet, as well as mp3 files. Why not locally? How much do you have to pay just to upload a recipe?
It's a shame that
I'm wondering if there will be 'prefered vendors' for the food in your fridge. Perhaps some commercials will play on the LGs screen when it scans a particular bar code...
If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
...Can it be overclocked? Gotta check if tomsrefrigeratorguide.com is still available. Will viruses make it start cooking the food?
fridged(8)
/etc/food.conf and listen on port 61453 (0xF00D) for /var/foodtab, /etc/food.conf.
/etc/food.conf.
/etc/food.conf
/var/foodtab
NAME
fridged -- LG Internet Fridge server
SYNOPSIS
fridged [ -allowfatass ] [ -c config-file ]
DESCRIPTION
fridged is a refrigerator server for use with LG Appli-
ances systems. Is is part of the standard Internet
Fridge distribution. It implements the FOOD protocol
described in RFC 9999.
With no arguments, fridged will configure based on
food requests based on FOOD.
fridged should be run as root to access
the internal storage of food data.
The list of clients authorized to take food is stored
in
OPTIONS
-allowfatass
Allows FOOD clients to send multiple requests
and stay-alive connections. By default, fridged
will allow only a healthy number of connections
by one client.
-c config-file
Uses config-file as the configuration file
instead of default
FILES
Default configuration file
Table of stored food
SEE ALSO
fridge(8), RFC 9999.
fridge(8)
NAME
fridge -- LG Internet Fridge client
SYNOPSIS
fridge [ -e ] [-s food-server] food-requested
DESCRIPTION
fridge is a refrigerator client that sends food requests
to a server implemeting the FOOD protocol described in
RFC 9999. By default, fridge will send the requests to
food://127.0.0.1 so you don't take things out of other
peoples' fridged(8)'s. The FOOD server may require you
to identify yourself and fridge will do so.
OPTIONS
-e
Eat the whole frickin' thing you requested right
here. God, you pig.
An instance of fridged(8) run without using the
-allowfatass option will not respond to requests
using the -e option.
-s food-server
Connect to food-server instead of the default
food://127.0.0.1
food-requested
The FID (food ID of the food requested). An
RFC 9999 compliant fridge-server will look up
a plaintext name of the food and use that FID.
SEE ALSO
fridged(8), RFC 9999.
This fridge is amazing, I'll give it that, but if you really want to have a f'in fridge then this, by Gaggenau is the god of fridges. I can't even explain, just go look.
I want the digital camera mounted on the inside, so I can see what looks good without having to open the door.
And so I can see the little guy that turns out the light when I close the door.
Plus, it would really help in making sure that there's not a Gozerian temple inside my fridge.
No, but I can imagine keeping peanut brittle clusters cold with these.
like the eNetiConAppliance
... to get one until they have AGP 8x, a DVD burner, and 3d acceleration. Then I can "fridge frag" someone in Quake 3.
"What's a microprocessor doing in a fridge, Bobby?"
"Keeping itself cool, Dirk."
This sounds similar to LowTax's ENetiConAppliance refrigerator which he mentions here:i d=308
http://www.somethingawful.com/article.php?
My 2 year-old fridge is just fine. How about making the "internet terminal" portion available as a retrofit?
Use magnets on the back to hold it onto the door, an umbilical to run to my kitchen's cat-5 & coax TV connection. Maybe include a PCCard slot for 802.11b or a USB connection for a printer.
If you have kids, you could position it nearer the floor rather than at adult height & run TeleTubbies or <shudder> Barney videos on it to keep the kids in one spot. Maybe even stick it on the dishwasher door, if that's more convenient for you than the fridge.
Chip H.