"Clearly, a lot of work is needed to make Linux enterprise-ready. The competition in enterprise computing is fierce. Sun will be tough to squelch. Microsoft is gaining ground. But the field is still open. Nobody's got a hammerlock. Microsoft is just another player in this market - and there's no reason Linux can't break through.
But desktop computing? It's time to face reality: Linux is a loser."
How absolutely silly this fabrication of Linux being at war with any other system.
At best there is competition amoung open source system (and Linux has that lead??), but there is something better for linux's position when it comes to commercial systems.
If the commercial system makers get lazy and sloppy about advancing, or do other things that piss off it's clients, then they will have to face linux.
In other words, Linux may be a turtle on the race course, but it doesn't mean it won't cross the finish line.
What linux does for everyone else is to provide a pace runner, a check system that keeps others in line.
What you can expect from others is a divergence from the OS mold that linux is a part of. You know, the effort to cause the mold of which they and Linux are a part of, to be changed to such a degree that they are no longer in the same general mold.
In any event, the bottom line continues to be what it always has been, who's go the most software. A bottom line Mircosoft recognized in their beginning. Quality was secondary to what you could actually get away with in advertising.
But this "bottom line" is based on the false premise of software being difficult to produce. A falseness that can be removed if the science of software engineering got back on track, away from corporate financial magnitism and bias.
If you want to know when NASDAQ will go up, watch the news regarding anything that entraps consumers, anything that seems to be a sure thing via forcing people to do or go without situations.
To remove that false bottom line..... Well, would leave linux where? But even Linux developers aren't interested in making development so easy that the typical user can do it too.
Don't know what happened to post here, it seems to have vanished, but....
The USPTO can't lose in issuing bad patents. If you want to appeal a pattent it'll cost you a few grand. Just write your check out to the USPTO.
On the other hand a patent doesn't protect the owning part from acts of infrigment. They still have to take the supposed infringer to court where the court can find the patent was wrongly issued.
All the USPTO is doing in issuing such patents is weaking it's value and the respect it should get.
In fact I'd go as far as to say it is showing signs of corruption with the can't lose status.
Sill I would like to know what happened to my first post here.
World trade gets screwed at the controls of the US Trillion dollar bet - WTC gets taken down.
Pentagon and supposed Capitol Building attack - Military and lawmakers
News Media Propoganda - Anthrax attacks (SUN and NBC - What did Tom Brokaw say that caused him to get a letter?)
Microsoft Licensings - Anthrax attack (Microsoft proven anti-trust with US and anti-competitive investigations in EU)
Hell, that's a pretty loud message system huh?
But by seeing the pattern and the message being Spelt across the US, concern about anthrax effecting US mail is less a concern than mail bombs. Maybe there is more concern about just being fair.
"The ability to push data between graphical apps doesn't quite fly as a "paradigm shift".
Who is R.U. Sirus? Something I should add to the long list of things others think I need to do?
At any rate, you have clearly been smoking something because pushing data between graphical apps is not, nor has anything to do with, what I have communicated.
The use of the word "paradigm" is only used here because it seems to be what quite a few others have refered to in their response to the article.
And to address that just see the subject line I gave my message.
I think what bothers many "programmers" is the idea of a system that allows the users to create what they need, for themselves. Certainly the field of programming is one of the skill of building and automation of complexity. But the failure seems to be in doing such automation of their own field. What you can call job security.
Otherwise there is the common in nature, three primaries. What is in the realm of genuine computer science, which capitalism seems to have lured off track.
The CLI was the first UI The GUI was the Second UI The third UI is related to the pipe.
The Third UI is the side door to application control. It is the UI that programmers equate to the API, script writers use thru the primitive pipe, but Users accesses thru an applications side door. An example of this is the Amiga Arexx "PORT" (not AREXX mind you, but the side door) to sending the application commands/instructions from outside the application. Meaning you have a command/instruction vocabulary set that the application can understand (I.E. ImageFX [amiga] doesn't need arexx for the user to send the application such commands/instructions).
These three user interfaces are like the primary colors of light, Red, Green, and Blue, where having these three the user can make up any other color, but remove one of these primary colors and you greatly reduce what the user is allowed to do.
But once you have these three primary user interfaces established on a system and in applications, then you can think about the functionality that ties these three together (and any other UI that comes along like voice to text, etc..)
So innovation is not at the level most preceive it to be, and it is this perception so many have that is the biggest problem or barrier to get over.
But once it is gotten over, then you can begin to see that what functionality and configuration of, that is needed to provide ultimate versatility to the user in handeling such application, library, OS functionality vocabularies. This includes the vocabulary sets of GUI, as well as CLI interfaces and the side door, so there is no restriction as to what interface the user ends up using.
Computers and programming them is a matter of automation. By identifying the core set of required functionality to enable ultimate versatility in user manipulating and even creating/extending such vocabularities, you'll have nine commands.
And believe it or not, these nine commands fit rather well the characters in the movie, The Matrix. 3rd of a 3 page loop
And a python start to creating this "Virtual Interaction Configuration." Just one of the commands using facets of some of the others to make it stand alone Python IQ
Is that it generates feedback for MS to put somewhere on their list of things to do. Eventually, all these common sence things will be somehow owned and controled by MS.
Instead people should be making these sort of better than MS user choice options more readily available in Linux.
I mean if Linux is so anti-MS why are so many telling MS what to improve?
Current 2 year US stock market link comparing the DOW with the S&P and most important the NASDAQ. You can tell where the money went and also know what the dot coms were all about.
finance.yahoo.com graph
"Imagine we did read some meaningful data. I guess we can assume that the civilization is already extinct. Ok, so we know that there's chances of life out there - what else is new?"
Maybe we should set our priorities straight. First let's use that network to figure out how to get to a distant S.O.S. while there is still hope, should we find one. Then let's use that network to create the Robot and AI (because it's to damn cold up there for anyone in their right mind to want to go to what we might think is an S.O.S. - not to mentioned being preparied to help...)
Oh wait, there would be Intellectual Property battles in all of that, we'd never get off the ground. Hmmm, guess that just leaves Imaginary Vouyerism of extinct intelligent races. Hmmm, wonder if I can file a patent on that and royality tax the hell out of SETI@HOME... Least we now understand the @home part in a new vouyerism light...
And with all these people who claim to have seen UFO's and had encounters, you'd think if SETI@HOME can't detect Alien life in our own back yard, what makes'em think they can find it in someones elses back yerd?
Damn them Aliens are really good at playing hide and seek.
Lego is a toy where kids get to explore their creativity, not be dictated to about their imagination. The source code should be open and done under a license that both helps encourage the exploration of creativity while protecting the company interest in not having it end up being something they regret, something being used competitively against them.
Lego sells the hardware, the physical stuff, the imagination is what their customers supply.
There is very little imagination in a customer naming his Lego robotics OS LegOS. He should better express good will here, then by way of imitation.
Perhaps the computer industry might take a hint from this "hardware" toy company. In realizing a whole hell of a lot more would get done that benefits everyone, by avoiding greed of imagination and imagination potential dictation.
Yep, auto-coding. where you mix command line with GUI.
but before that there was the first user interface of the Command line, then there was the second, the GUI. The GUI was easier to use but more limited than the Command Line interface.
Then there is the Third user interface, the one that completes the primary triplet of user interfaces. That interface is the side door port to applications and other functionality of the OS. The port that the user can use to tie functionality together, to themselves automate.
In this process of automation, auto-coding comes into play.
"[ai]....to have an aversion to anything that brings harm to humans will not go
against its conditioning."
Are you saying that it won't let humans do all the harmful things they do
to each other?
Which came first, economic decline or DMCA stuff?
on
The Internet Backlash
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· Score: 1
Though I found the article interesting, the fact that it's all about
protecting intellectual property in a manner that allows the creator
more control to determine their income, I do wonder how much financial
pressure is being caused by world economy decline.
Or is this DMCA and such contributing to the decline in consumer
interest in this technology (I know it's rather distasteful to me)?
In other words: Will China being a bright spot in
the world economy (due to not playing the trillion bollar gamble) lead the
experts (with blinders on of course) to promote whatever China does, regarding DMCA like issues?
Ok, the article spells out what they (politics) look for and pay attention to, and what holds lesser value in lobbying.
Guess that means it'd be helpful for someone to post the mailing addresses of those who to send our handwritten
and unique letters in opposition to Microsoft to.... Hmmm, think it will have more impact being how in the Linux, GNU,
GPL world there ain't no designated leader?
that didn't come out right, I think. While the higher moderated posting seem to be against Brazil doing this, whos to says not finding a cure is motivated by the money for IP that doesn't cure but extends time line of patients and therefor the amount of money the patient hands the drug company for the IP drug ? In the US we are suppose to have this "Right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" but is this now to be within the constraints of corporate IP? Who really wants to cure aids?
what is needed is that which is in the same spirit as the GPL. That which will provide for and insure freedom of choice and right to life for open ideas. Any Takers?
As the slashdot system of handing out moderation point to use, is,
I have 5 points to assign. I have noticed lately that the overall
comments and moderation point weights assigned are really quite
accurate of representing and presenting a fair and bigger picture.
On this topic, the most positive thing I see is the amount of energy
and effort people have put forth in expressing their pov. The importance
of doing this, cannot be underestimated!!!
Although M$ may be having an internal field day with this topic and the
responces, perhaps even getting some inspiration for their next attack on
the GPL, the FACT IS:
It is this sort of drive that creates and maintains what in needed in
order to keep the computer software industry in check. I suspect it's a
good thing overall to have something like a minor conflict as this linux
vs. GNU naming for it helps to keep things in check. And in this case
helps communicate the history of credit, good or bad.
With all this in mind, and regarding the few days I've had 5 points to
assign, then (though I technically can't but only verbaly can) I give
all five points to the spirit of standing up for what you believe and
keeping things in check in doing so.
I recall reading some research years ago about how the Gaming Industry conducted some research in order to figure out what the problem was with online gaming. You know so to improve it's appeal and use. What they found out is that for what ever reason, game players tend to get more and more negitive in playing. About a year ago a co-worker was say how supprised and even shocked he was at the comments he received from his opponet in a game of online chess. Where Chess is generally a game of reasoning and respect. But I guess the question here is "Does anyone have any other research or urls to similiar studies?
Interpretations of the Patent statute by the courts have defined the limits of the field of subject matter which can be patented, thus it has been held that the laws of nature, physical phenomena and abstract ideas are not patentable subject matter.
TWO VIEWS:
The BLUE PILL (a part)"Protection of industrial property is not an end in itself: it is a means to encourage reative activity, industrialization, investment and honest trade. All this is designed to contribute to more safety and comfort, less poverty and more beauty, in the lives of men.
The RED PILL (the whole) WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE WORK IS NOT TO BE KEPT FROM US, NOT TO BE HIDDEN FROM OUR ABILITY TO PERSONALLY USE! AND CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING TO CHARGE US FOR THE RIGHT TO....USE,....!
Slashdot Mirror
"Clearly, a lot of work is needed to make Linux enterprise-ready. The
competition in enterprise computing is fierce. Sun will be tough to
squelch. Microsoft is gaining ground. But the field is still open.
Nobody's got a hammerlock. Microsoft is just another player in this
market - and there's no reason Linux can't break through.
But desktop computing? It's time to face reality: Linux is a loser."
How absolutely silly this fabrication of Linux being at war with any other
system.
At best there is competition amoung open source system (and Linux has that
lead??), but there is something better for linux's position when it comes
to commercial systems.
If the commercial system makers get lazy and sloppy about advancing, or do
other things that piss off it's clients, then they will have to face linux.
In other words, Linux may be a turtle on the race course, but it doesn't
mean it won't cross the finish line.
What linux does for everyone else is to provide a pace runner, a check
system that keeps others in line.
What you can expect from others is a divergence from the OS mold that
linux is a part of. You know, the effort to cause the mold of which they
and Linux are a part of, to be changed to such a degree that they are no
longer in the same general mold.
In any event, the bottom line continues to be what it always has been,
who's go the most software. A bottom line Mircosoft recognized in their
beginning. Quality was secondary to what you could actually get away with
in advertising.
But this "bottom line" is based on the false premise of software being
difficult to produce. A falseness that can be removed if the science of
software engineering got back on track, away from corporate financial
magnitism and bias.
If you want to know when NASDAQ will go up, watch the news regarding
anything that entraps consumers, anything that seems to be a sure thing
via forcing people to do or go without situations.
To remove that false bottom line..... Well, would leave linux where?
But even Linux developers aren't interested in making development so easy
that the typical user can do it too.
Don't know what happened to post here, it seems to have vanished, but....
The USPTO can't lose in issuing bad patents. If you want to appeal a pattent it'll cost you a few grand. Just write your check out to the USPTO.
On the other hand a patent doesn't protect the owning part from acts of infrigment. They still have to take the supposed infringer to court where the court can find the patent was wrongly issued.
All the USPTO is doing in issuing such patents is weaking it's value and the respect it should get.
In fact I'd go as far as to say it is showing signs of corruption with the can't lose status.
Sill I would like to know what happened to my first post here.
Can someone get me a copy of that paper by some IBM employee? Seriously.
Auto-coding - Virtual Interaction Configuration:
Knowledge Navigational Mapping - Virtual Interaction Configuration
The Matrix Metaphores
VIC legal, equations, definitions and concepts
Command specs
Knowledge Calculator
US forgien policy sucks - US embassies get bombed
World trade gets screwed at the controls of the US
Trillion dollar bet - WTC gets taken down.
Pentagon and supposed Capitol Building attack - Military and lawmakers
News Media Propoganda - Anthrax attacks (SUN and NBC - What did Tom Brokaw say that caused him to get a letter?)
Microsoft Licensings - Anthrax attack (Microsoft proven anti-trust with US and anti-competitive investigations in EU)
Hell, that's a pretty loud message system huh?
But by seeing the pattern and the message being Spelt across the US, concern about anthrax effecting US mail is less a
concern than mail bombs. Maybe there is more concern about just being fair.
So they converted to jpg from gif?
Good for them!
"The ability to push data between graphical apps doesn't quite fly as a "paradigm shift".
Who is R.U. Sirus? Something I should add to the long list of things others think I need to do?
At any rate, you have clearly been smoking something because pushing data between graphical apps is not, nor has anything to do with, what I have communicated.
The use of the word "paradigm" is only used here because it seems to be what quite a few others have refered to in their response to the article.
And to address that just see the subject line I gave my message.
I think what bothers many "programmers" is the idea of a system that allows the users to create what they need, for themselves. Certainly the field of programming is one of the skill of building and automation of complexity. But the failure seems to be in doing such automation of their own field. What you can call job security.
Otherwise there is the common in nature, three primaries. What is in the realm of genuine computer science, which capitalism seems to have lured off track.
The CLI was the first UI
The GUI was the Second UI
The third UI is related to the pipe.
The Third UI is the side door to application control.
It is the UI that programmers equate to the API, script writers use thru
the primitive pipe, but Users accesses thru an applications side door. An
example of this is the Amiga Arexx "PORT" (not AREXX mind you, but the
side door) to sending the application commands/instructions from outside
the application. Meaning you have a command/instruction vocabulary set
that the application can understand (I.E. ImageFX [amiga] doesn't need
arexx for the user to send the application such commands/instructions).
These three user interfaces are like the primary colors of light, Red,
Green, and Blue, where having these three the user can make up any other
color, but remove one of these primary colors and you greatly reduce what
the user is allowed to do.
But once you have these three primary user interfaces established on a
system and in applications, then you can think about the functionality
that ties these three together (and any other UI that comes along like
voice to text, etc..)
So innovation is not at the level most preceive it to be, and it is this
perception so many have that is the biggest problem or barrier to get
over.
But once it is gotten over, then you can begin to see that what
functionality and configuration of, that is needed to provide ultimate
versatility to the user in handeling such application, library, OS
functionality vocabularies. This includes the vocabulary sets of GUI, as
well as CLI interfaces and the side door, so there is no restriction as to
what interface the user ends up using.
Computers and programming them is a matter of automation. By identifying
the core set of required functionality to enable ultimate versatility in
user manipulating and even creating/extending such vocabularities, you'll
have nine commands.
RFC to Patent Office response covering nine commands
And believe it or not, these nine commands fit rather well the characters
in the movie, The Matrix. 3rd of a 3 page loop
And a python start to creating this "Virtual Interaction Configuration."
Just one of the commands using facets of some of the others to make it
stand alone Python IQ
Is that it generates feedback for MS to put somewhere on their list of things to do.
Eventually, all these common sence things will be somehow owned and controled by MS.
Instead people should be making these sort of better than MS user choice options more
readily available in Linux.
I mean if Linux is so anti-MS why are so many telling MS what to improve?
Roomer Busting site
I leave it up to the reader to read the following articles and put the pieces together for themselves to see the action/reaction balance going on.
US Koran site
CIA report (note religion percentage)
Muslim culture (outside Afganistan):site 1
site 2
Trillion Dollar bet
Problems caused by trillion dollar bet:
abcnews may 98
cnn may 98
Bigger than the Trillion Dollar BET - x3?
Current 2 year US stock market link comparing the DOW with the S&P and most important the NASDAQ. You can tell where the money went and also know what the dot coms were all about.
finance.yahoo.com graph
National Security Agency total system crash finally reported August 29th 2001
Losing freedoms:SSSCA
"Imagine we did read some meaningful data. I guess we can assume that
the civilization is already extinct. Ok, so we know that there's chances
of life out there - what else is new?"
Maybe we should set our priorities straight. First let's use that network
to figure out how to get to a distant S.O.S. while there is still hope,
should we find one. Then let's use that network to create the Robot and AI
(because it's to damn cold up there for anyone in their right mind to want
to go to what we might think is an S.O.S. - not to mentioned being
preparied to help...)
Oh wait, there would be Intellectual Property battles in all of that, we'd
never get off the ground. Hmmm, guess that just leaves Imaginary
Vouyerism of extinct intelligent races. Hmmm, wonder if I can file a
patent on that and royality tax the hell out of SETI@HOME... Least we now
understand the @home part in a new vouyerism light...
And with all these people who claim to have seen UFO's and had encounters,
you'd think if SETI@HOME can't detect Alien life in our own back yard,
what makes'em think they can find it in someones elses back yerd?
Damn them Aliens are really good at playing hide and seek.
"Harboring or providing advice to a hacker would be terrorism as well"
Does this mean that the CIA is going to be held criminally libel for
training bin laden? Or is that OK?
Lego is a toy where kids get to explore their creativity, not be dictated to about their imagination. The source code should be open and done under a license that both helps encourage the exploration of creativity while protecting the company interest in not having it end up being something they regret, something being used competitively against them.
Lego sells the hardware, the physical stuff, the imagination is what their customers supply.
There is very little imagination in a customer naming his Lego robotics OS LegOS. He should better express good will here, then by way of imitation.
Perhaps the computer industry might take a hint from this "hardware" toy company. In realizing a whole hell of a lot more would get done that benefits everyone, by avoiding greed of imagination and imagination potential dictation.
Yep, auto-coding. where you mix command line with GUI.
but before that there was the first user interface of the Command line,
then there was the second, the GUI. The GUI was easier to use but more
limited than the Command Line interface.
Then there is the Third user interface, the one that completes the primary
triplet of user interfaces. That interface is the side door port to
applications and other functionality of the OS. The port that the user can
use to tie functionality together, to themselves automate.
In this process of automation, auto-coding comes into play.
http://www.mindspring.com/~timrue/KNMVIC.html
There is also a python start of the function set.
"[ai]....to have an aversion to anything that brings harm to humans will not go against its conditioning."
Are you saying that it won't let humans do all the harmful things they do to each other?
Though I found the article interesting, the fact that it's all about protecting intellectual property in a manner that allows the creator more control to determine their income, I do wonder how much financial pressure is being caused by world economy decline.
Or is this DMCA and such contributing to the decline in consumer interest in this technology (I know it's rather distasteful to me)?
World Economy - "China is a lone global bright spot,..."
Hmmmm, and what is China's reason for this? China wasn't a part of the trillion dollar bet.
But where does China stand on DMCA and such like matters? And is China a hint as to what to expect?
In other words: Will China being a bright spot in the world economy (due to not playing the trillion bollar gamble) lead the experts (with blinders on of course) to promote whatever China does, regarding DMCA like issues?
Ok, the article spells out what they (politics) look for and pay attention to, and what holds lesser value in lobbying. Guess that means it'd be helpful for someone to post the mailing addresses of those who to send our handwritten and unique letters in opposition to Microsoft to.... Hmmm, think it will have more impact being how in the Linux, GNU, GPL world there ain't no designated leader?
:)
OK, anyone got the addresses?
OOPS! Looks like Roche is gonna pull a lawsuit against the research team that came up with the cure, for making their (Roache) IP worthless.
that didn't come out right, I think. While the higher moderated posting seem to be against Brazil doing this, whos to says not finding a cure is motivated by the money for IP that doesn't cure but extends time line of patients and therefor the amount of money the patient hands the drug company for the IP drug ?
In the US we are suppose to have this "Right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" but is this now to be within the constraints of corporate IP? Who really wants to cure aids?
Hmmmm, what will happen not to the corporate motive to NOT find a cure?
Now that this has happened?
I have an external 56k modem, live in Atlanta and use Mindspring/Earthlink. But all I get from them is 28.8k. Does that mean I'm not hated?
what is needed is that which is in the same spirit as the GPL. That which will provide for and insure freedom of choice and right to life for open ideas.
Any Takers?
As the slashdot system of handing out moderation point to use, is, I have 5 points to assign. I have noticed lately that the overall comments and moderation point weights assigned are really quite accurate of representing and presenting a fair and bigger picture.
On this topic, the most positive thing I see is the amount of energy and effort people have put forth in expressing their pov. The importance of doing this, cannot be underestimated!!!
Although M$ may be having an internal field day with this topic and the responces, perhaps even getting some inspiration for their next attack on the GPL, the FACT IS:
It is this sort of drive that creates and maintains what in needed in order to keep the computer software industry in check. I suspect it's a good thing overall to have something like a minor conflict as this linux vs. GNU naming for it helps to keep things in check. And in this case helps communicate the history of credit, good or bad.
With all this in mind, and regarding the few days I've had 5 points to assign, then (though I technically can't but only verbaly can) I give all five points to the spirit of standing up for what you believe and keeping things in check in doing so.
I recall reading some research years ago about how the Gaming Industry conducted some research in order to figure out what the problem was with online gaming. You know so to improve it's appeal and use.
What they found out is that for what ever reason, game players tend to get more and more negitive in playing. About a year ago a co-worker was say how supprised and even shocked he was at the comments he
received from his opponet in a game of online chess. Where Chess is generally a game of reasoning and respect. But I guess the question here is "Does anyone have any other research or urls to similiar studies?
From my own Web pages Blue Pill vs. Red Pill
....USE, ....!
The Nature of a Patent is "The Right To EXCLUDE"
Interpretations of the Patent statute by the courts have defined the limits of the field of subject matter
which can be patented, thus it has been held that the laws of nature, physical phenomena and abstract ideas
are not patentable subject matter.
TWO VIEWS:
The BLUE PILL (a part)"Protection of industrial property is not an end in itself: it is a means to encourage
reative activity, industrialization, investment and honest trade. All this is designed to contribute to more
safety and comfort, less poverty and more beauty, in the lives of men.
The RED PILL (the whole) WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE WORK IS NOT TO BE KEPT FROM US,
NOT TO BE HIDDEN FROM OUR ABILITY TO PERSONALLY USE! AND CERTAINLY NOT
SOMETHING TO CHARGE US FOR THE RIGHT TO
AI is a by product of intelligence. An illusion of intelligence. But then anyone who applies action constants to automate, should already know this.
Action Constants of the Matrix Agents and Resistance