Good idea, bad rules allowed the providers to fuck everyone over. In some cases, the packages are priced so high that if you want only some of what you had before it would cost you more. It needs to be fixed. There are a few exceptions like zazeen. But Bell, Rogers, Cogeco, Shaw, Vmedia and so on all went the "you have to get xyz or you can't have it at all." The biggest one is the "you must have your internet service through us, or you can't have the skinny bundle."
What exactly does that mean? Are you asking for an article that is an interview with someone?
It means exactly what it says. You claim the wikipedia article is legitimate because of it's sources, those sources however are not legitimate because they don't have any evidence.
What do you dispute about the logs? Keep in mind that GamerGate released the Burgers and Fries channel log themselves. It's not quite as explosive as the other one, but even it contains lots of chatter about false flag ops and creating sock puppet accounts to do fake doxing of GG supporters.
Except of course that you have no proof actually linking anyone in those logs of doing anything, all the boil down to is "words in a document." Neither one is explosive, and GG has had to deal with no less then 5 different groups trying to troll it.
Doxing is posting personal information in a hostile manner, e.g. for the purposes of harassment. Since the details in the email are not personal information (they are fake, and the fact that they are fake is quite relevant to the tweet so merit inclusion) and cannot be used to identify or harass anyone, it isn't doxing.
Doxing is the posting of any information in a manner where it's purpose is harassment. You missed that part where she left the IP address? But if I use your reasoning, it really isn't harassment when someone tells her "she sucks" either. Even when she includes personal information of a person, or anything that can link back to a person. Never forgetting that with SJW's the favorite method of attacking people is dogpiling.
The only Trump supporters I know are middle class whites who grew up in small towns, never traveled far from home, and think that Trump will keep Jesus in their house and the colored out of their towns.
That's funny, the only Clinton and Sanders supporters that I know are rich or upper-class people who grew up in large towns, and only ever interacted with other people in their economic niche. All the while turning around and looking down upon the plebs and how disgusting they are.
Oh you want specific complaints? Like the articles that engage in outright falsehoods, or the ones that out-right lied like xyz person left their home but actually didn't. But they still claim it's true. How about this, you pick an article that claims it's a source and I'll rip it to shreds for you. Useful tip: None of what I said was ad-homs. There were editors banned because they couldn't do their job properly, they were kicked out and banned by both sites. And they have and still do have their hands in it via meat puppets.
So you've found logs that make statements but offer no proof of what you're saying. After all, I'm sure you'll be able to link the two together. Well, I'm sure you'll also remember about some of the people you're parroting engaging in doxing if you've actually read those logs.
And the original tweet is still doxxing. Perhaps you should be spending that one minute looking at what the definition of doxxing is. And while you're at it, you can also look up the numerous false-flags that people like Wu and Quinn were involved in, and in Quinn's case where she actively doxxed a charity, and people on a message board.
Sure explains why people making statements that aren't an incitement to violence are being silenced then. The government fears people speaking out, and in turn are trying to silence their views.
You shouldn't accuse Bob and Doug of racism. Most people aren't that racist anymore. Maybe some parts of the Republican party still are, which makes Trump so successful, but that is about it, I think.
Here's a useful question to ask yourself if that's true. If "parts of the republican party still are" then why is it, that democrats and the democrat party are the first ones to spout garbage like the wage-gap that doesn't exist, but call it sexist. When people try to criticize someone's policy, they're labeled racists(which has happened a lot since Obama i.e. you don't like xyz thing because Obama is black) and so on. You want to know why Trump is so successful? Because he doesn't care about political correctness, and that resonates with a large segment of the american public.
Neither one of those are valid sources. The both heavily work via citeogenisis, and in the second case the article was heavily built by an ex-wiki editor who was banned for doing the same thing on wikipedia, not only for engaging in outright falsehoods but failing to maintain a NPOV. Several other key editors in both articles have also been banned from editing those articles, for exactly the same reasons. You go through the sources and what do you find? Nothing, it's all "they say..." there is no proof in the sources themselves.
Going by your reasoning, if I could find an article that says AmiMoJo diddles kids, slap it into a wikipedia article and thus everyone *knows* that you diddle kids, even when it's untrue it proves that you actually do.
You mean like this doxxing she did? Oh and then there's all those people who make up the bulk of the articles, who also engaged in similar practices, some even belong to helldump(like zoe quinn). If you don't know, helldump is a sub-forum dedicated to doxxing, harassing, and actively engaging in targeting people.
Trump is a bully who's core support comes from disenfranchised xenophobes.
The only thing you're missing there is the "and he's an evil far-right-extremist..." then you could turn around and be best buddies with the governments of Europe(Germany, Norway, England, etc), who also shout the same garbage at the opposition because they're not listening to the public. And successfully drive more people to the opposition with their insane rhetoric.
Trump says what an uneducated idiot would say to his buddy in private company. He attacks detractors like a schoolyard bully with a foul mouth, and he is of zero substance.
In other words, he's saying stuff that people outside the beltway, those outside of the ivory hall of academia say, and what Bob and Doug are saying around the watercooler. And that resonates with people who aren't you, people that you think are "xenophobes" because their values are different, and they have different viewpoints. And instead of wondering why they have different viewpoints, and why what he says is resonating you resort to just another form of bullying.
Well he'd be right along with the "it's localization not censorship." And would probably go out of his way to defend removing art as well, you know like this. Authoritarians as many people are finding out, really like trying to claim that "it's to help people" or "stop them from feeling bad" or some other BS.
This reminds me that a T1D can get a pancreas implant, and then no/reduced need of insulin for years... but then you have to take antirejection drugs and all the wonderful side effects of transplants... so which is worse, the cure or the chronic pedantic busy work being your own pancreas...
Just a heads up, there a couple of new transplants out there that use different methods, and no longer implant them into the pancreas either. The upside with these transplants is they require no anti-rejection drugs, and after 5 years more around 60% of the transplanted tissue is still functioning properly. The real problem with islet transplants right now is that even with anti-rejection drugs, after about 10 years around 50% of people have to start to start taking insulin again. And it just goes downhill from there, and because you get it done once...it might not work a second time.
So, where's the hate speech in "you suck" or "show proof" or "you're presenting lies in your stories." Well, you'd say there are none. I'd say there are none, but according to the new twitter STASI council, those are all hate speech. But you're right...kind of, there's a lot of people out there that don't like their ideological bubble challenged. And there's an entire generation that's been fed that BS for the last ~20 years as well. One of the reasons why in a lot of political circles these days, you'll hear talk of no more left vs right. Rather authoritarian vs libertarian and people on the left and right working against authoritarians.
We also need to distinguish between accounts that were breaking the law and/or genuinely harassing people (like many of the GamerGate ones that were banned) and those who are just saying unpopular things.
Going on two years, and I've been asking you for proof of that. You never show any, but repeat the same old lies. Then run away when I point out the people that you like to parrot are actively doxing, harassing, and threatening people. It must be really fun being so invested in your ideology that you refuse to question that you might actually "be on the wrong side of history." Oh, and none of the gamergate tags have been banned--they just don't auto-complete. There's a difference, in this case they banned a tag.
Does make you wonder just how many people they can exclude before they lose the benefits of the network effect.
Well they decided to do it with atheism, and with gamers, and now they're doing it against people who don't share their political ideology. Looks like they're doing a great job at making sure they want to become irrelevant like myspace. I wish them the best on that journey.
Isn't Twitter owned by shareholders who will raise hell if the credibility of the service is trashed due to political biases of the employees operating it?
Yep. One of the former founders who is now back running as CEO seems to be jumping all over the "criticism is harassment" bandwagon as well. Twitter's dump in stock price also seems to reflect investor lack of confidence in him and the company to act as an open platform which they claim to be. Then again, there's also the possibility that the current CEO and current executive board knows that the company isn't recoverable and is deliberately tanking it so they get bought out.
And yet, you'll see people parroting the "well it doesn't matter, we should be hiring them regardless of their skill now." Which of course is terrible. In my book if you have two people, one is xyz race and the other is xyz race, I don't care. I want the person who's best for the job. Of course, with the race baiters and so on, they start screaming the "that's racist" garbage.
If people need to see how bad this can get in action, just look at Canada and our current government. Best people for the positions? Nope. We're having half of them as women...because...they're women. Fucking genius.
If it's the latter then I'd really love to have a chat with that individual. Not hearing what I have to say is dangerous to his livelihood.
Good luck on that. People who have a stick up their ass and mod stuff down because it hurts their feelings, or because of xyz ideological reasons generally refuse to comment on stuff.
I am aware of this position, thank you. I have been on its receiving end before, although not in a racist sense. I have no quarrel with different ethnic groups, and they have no quarrel with me. We support each other, because we're a community, and that's what community members do.
Oh, you're not missing much in the racist sense. I personally like the grifters out there that say "you're privileged" in one sentence, then say you're an oppressed minority in the next.
You forget: I'm a certified cis+het all-men shitlord!
Being white/asian(or japanese)-het I get the unique chance to see the triple standards first hand at times. And all the whining that gets thrown my way too.
I would not leave a career where I have 20+ years of experience for flipping burgers lightly.
Neither would I, but I'd move my repositories to something besides github(which I and the company I work for has long since done). Especially since they no longer believe in merit, and are hiring professional victims for their social outreach section. What I expect is github will survive as long as they don't stick their fingers into peoples repositories too much. Though their new CoC is doing so, and angering peoples. What the pushover even will be, I can't say, but if it's anything like what's happening at twitter...when it happens, it'll be spectacular.
A strong code of conduct also really helps, and the community is pretty good at self policing it with good tools to block trolls.
You mean like how that "strong code of conduct" was immediately brought out to try and silence and remove actual project maintainers? Yeah, good plan. We'll just kick people out because they don't conform to our political ideology...you know. Like this where we can watch the power grab in real time. And that's why CoC's are dangerous. And why developers are speaking out against them. Or saying, you need actual expert advice. Not some whiner who wants to use it as a "diversity checkmark."
Merit is the only CoC programming needs, you think otherwise then you're likely right there beside the people who believe that 0 programming skills and skin colour makes a person a programmer.
No one has said that the internet is a 1st world luxury. But if you really want to help people, the internet is way down on the list of things that someone in developing countries actually needs. A baby dying of disease can't eat the internet, it won't give them vaccinations or treatments for that disease either. It won't help the technologically illiterate in any of those cases either, because many of those people who don't have running water or basic sanitation or even food, are in many cases illiterate as well.
That is correct, but is that necessarily a bad thing?
Yes. I can think of a lot of other things he could be doing if he really wanted, like helping modernize India. Or you know, basic things like running water to your home, and a toilet that isn't the street running beside your house, or directly into the river...where you're also getting your drinking water.
Well it can lead to more money it depends on the product, and the price. In some cases you can lose money by dropping the price.
But in PC gamers case, it does mean PC gamers are cheap bastards. Why else is the PC version an afterthought? HUGE games like Fallout or Divinity or Dragon Age aren't worth $59 to PC gamers? Do you think that Bethesda considers some guy who buys skyrim for $5 on a steam sale in 2016 a "real" customer compared to those who bought the thing in November of 2011? Whose feedback are they going to be more interested in?
Never heard the saying "it's easier to make a fast nickle instead of a slow quarter?"
No, it means nothing of the sort except what you believe. The PC version isn't an afterthought, huge games like FO, Divinity and Dragon Age weren't afterthoughts. All three of those games were PC only titles to start with. FO4 if you're talking about a specific case, was so dumbed down that people on both sides are complaining about the lack of RPG elements. And according to Bethesda, yes they're a customer still.
I'm old enough to remember the 80's and the prices then, considering inflation and how much game you get for your money, games cost LESS than what they did then. Go on, check the Sears Wishbook in 81 or 83 if you don't believe me.
Funny, me too! And sadly, no they don't. See I live in this place called "Not the USA" that means an average title is now around $89-129.
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Good idea, bad rules allowed the providers to fuck everyone over. In some cases, the packages are priced so high that if you want only some of what you had before it would cost you more. It needs to be fixed. There are a few exceptions like zazeen. But Bell, Rogers, Cogeco, Shaw, Vmedia and so on all went the "you have to get xyz or you can't have it at all." The biggest one is the "you must have your internet service through us, or you can't have the skinny bundle."
âoeJust think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!â
- George Carlin
And some percentage of those people are going to resonate very well with Mr. Trump.
And some of that percentage of those people are going to resonate very well with Sanders and Clinton. Gee, so easy...
Something about my post hurts your feelings? Need to run to your safe space?
What exactly does that mean? Are you asking for an article that is an interview with someone?
It means exactly what it says. You claim the wikipedia article is legitimate because of it's sources, those sources however are not legitimate because they don't have any evidence.
What do you dispute about the logs? Keep in mind that GamerGate released the Burgers and Fries channel log themselves. It's not quite as explosive as the other one, but even it contains lots of chatter about false flag ops and creating sock puppet accounts to do fake doxing of GG supporters.
Except of course that you have no proof actually linking anyone in those logs of doing anything, all the boil down to is "words in a document." Neither one is explosive, and GG has had to deal with no less then 5 different groups trying to troll it.
Doxing is posting personal information in a hostile manner, e.g. for the purposes of harassment. Since the details in the email are not personal information (they are fake, and the fact that they are fake is quite relevant to the tweet so merit inclusion) and cannot be used to identify or harass anyone, it isn't doxing.
Doxing is the posting of any information in a manner where it's purpose is harassment. You missed that part where she left the IP address? But if I use your reasoning, it really isn't harassment when someone tells her "she sucks" either. Even when she includes personal information of a person, or anything that can link back to a person. Never forgetting that with SJW's the favorite method of attacking people is dogpiling.
The only Trump supporters I know are middle class whites who grew up in small towns, never traveled far from home, and think that Trump will keep Jesus in their house and the colored out of their towns.
That's funny, the only Clinton and Sanders supporters that I know are rich or upper-class people who grew up in large towns, and only ever interacted with other people in their economic niche. All the while turning around and looking down upon the plebs and how disgusting they are.
Oh you want specific complaints? Like the articles that engage in outright falsehoods, or the ones that out-right lied like xyz person left their home but actually didn't. But they still claim it's true. How about this, you pick an article that claims it's a source and I'll rip it to shreds for you. Useful tip: None of what I said was ad-homs. There were editors banned because they couldn't do their job properly, they were kicked out and banned by both sites. And they have and still do have their hands in it via meat puppets.
So you've found logs that make statements but offer no proof of what you're saying. After all, I'm sure you'll be able to link the two together. Well, I'm sure you'll also remember about some of the people you're parroting engaging in doxing if you've actually read those logs.
And the original tweet is still doxxing. Perhaps you should be spending that one minute looking at what the definition of doxxing is. And while you're at it, you can also look up the numerous false-flags that people like Wu and Quinn were involved in, and in Quinn's case where she actively doxxed a charity, and people on a message board.
Sure explains why people making statements that aren't an incitement to violence are being silenced then. The government fears people speaking out, and in turn are trying to silence their views.
You shouldn't accuse Bob and Doug of racism. Most people aren't that racist anymore. Maybe some parts of the Republican party still are, which makes Trump so successful, but that is about it, I think.
Here's a useful question to ask yourself if that's true. If "parts of the republican party still are" then why is it, that democrats and the democrat party are the first ones to spout garbage like the wage-gap that doesn't exist, but call it sexist. When people try to criticize someone's policy, they're labeled racists(which has happened a lot since Obama i.e. you don't like xyz thing because Obama is black) and so on. You want to know why Trump is so successful? Because he doesn't care about political correctness, and that resonates with a large segment of the american public.
Neither one of those are valid sources. The both heavily work via citeogenisis, and in the second case the article was heavily built by an ex-wiki editor who was banned for doing the same thing on wikipedia, not only for engaging in outright falsehoods but failing to maintain a NPOV. Several other key editors in both articles have also been banned from editing those articles, for exactly the same reasons. You go through the sources and what do you find? Nothing, it's all "they say..." there is no proof in the sources themselves.
Going by your reasoning, if I could find an article that says AmiMoJo diddles kids, slap it into a wikipedia article and thus everyone *knows* that you diddle kids, even when it's untrue it proves that you actually do.
You mean like this doxxing she did? Oh and then there's all those people who make up the bulk of the articles, who also engaged in similar practices, some even belong to helldump(like zoe quinn). If you don't know, helldump is a sub-forum dedicated to doxxing, harassing, and actively engaging in targeting people.
Trump is a bully who's core support comes from disenfranchised xenophobes.
The only thing you're missing there is the "and he's an evil far-right-extremist..." then you could turn around and be best buddies with the governments of Europe(Germany, Norway, England, etc), who also shout the same garbage at the opposition because they're not listening to the public. And successfully drive more people to the opposition with their insane rhetoric.
Trump says what an uneducated idiot would say to his buddy in private company. He attacks detractors like a schoolyard bully with a foul mouth, and he is of zero substance.
In other words, he's saying stuff that people outside the beltway, those outside of the ivory hall of academia say, and what Bob and Doug are saying around the watercooler. And that resonates with people who aren't you, people that you think are "xenophobes" because their values are different, and they have different viewpoints. And instead of wondering why they have different viewpoints, and why what he says is resonating you resort to just another form of bullying.
Well he'd be right along with the "it's localization not censorship." And would probably go out of his way to defend removing art as well, you know like this. Authoritarians as many people are finding out, really like trying to claim that "it's to help people" or "stop them from feeling bad" or some other BS.
This reminds me that a T1D can get a pancreas implant, and then no/reduced need of insulin for years... but then you have to take antirejection drugs and all the wonderful side effects of transplants... so which is worse, the cure or the chronic pedantic busy work being your own pancreas...
Just a heads up, there a couple of new transplants out there that use different methods, and no longer implant them into the pancreas either. The upside with these transplants is they require no anti-rejection drugs, and after 5 years more around 60% of the transplanted tissue is still functioning properly. The real problem with islet transplants right now is that even with anti-rejection drugs, after about 10 years around 50% of people have to start to start taking insulin again. And it just goes downhill from there, and because you get it done once...it might not work a second time.
So, where's the hate speech in "you suck" or "show proof" or "you're presenting lies in your stories." Well, you'd say there are none. I'd say there are none, but according to the new twitter STASI council, those are all hate speech. But you're right...kind of, there's a lot of people out there that don't like their ideological bubble challenged. And there's an entire generation that's been fed that BS for the last ~20 years as well. One of the reasons why in a lot of political circles these days, you'll hear talk of no more left vs right. Rather authoritarian vs libertarian and people on the left and right working against authoritarians.
We also need to distinguish between accounts that were breaking the law and/or genuinely harassing people (like many of the GamerGate ones that were banned) and those who are just saying unpopular things.
Going on two years, and I've been asking you for proof of that. You never show any, but repeat the same old lies. Then run away when I point out the people that you like to parrot are actively doxing, harassing, and threatening people. It must be really fun being so invested in your ideology that you refuse to question that you might actually "be on the wrong side of history." Oh, and none of the gamergate tags have been banned--they just don't auto-complete. There's a difference, in this case they banned a tag.
Does make you wonder just how many people they can exclude before they lose the benefits of the network effect.
Well they decided to do it with atheism, and with gamers, and now they're doing it against people who don't share their political ideology. Looks like they're doing a great job at making sure they want to become irrelevant like myspace. I wish them the best on that journey.
Trusting Rolling Stone on anything...okay there.
Isn't Twitter owned by shareholders who will raise hell if the credibility of the service is trashed due to political biases of the employees operating it?
Yep. One of the former founders who is now back running as CEO seems to be jumping all over the "criticism is harassment" bandwagon as well. Twitter's dump in stock price also seems to reflect investor lack of confidence in him and the company to act as an open platform which they claim to be. Then again, there's also the possibility that the current CEO and current executive board knows that the company isn't recoverable and is deliberately tanking it so they get bought out.
And yet, you'll see people parroting the "well it doesn't matter, we should be hiring them regardless of their skill now." Which of course is terrible. In my book if you have two people, one is xyz race and the other is xyz race, I don't care. I want the person who's best for the job. Of course, with the race baiters and so on, they start screaming the "that's racist" garbage.
If people need to see how bad this can get in action, just look at Canada and our current government. Best people for the positions? Nope. We're having half of them as women...because...they're women. Fucking genius.
If it's the latter then I'd really love to have a chat with that individual. Not hearing what I have to say is dangerous to his livelihood.
Good luck on that. People who have a stick up their ass and mod stuff down because it hurts their feelings, or because of xyz ideological reasons generally refuse to comment on stuff.
I am aware of this position, thank you. I have been on its receiving end before, although not in a racist sense. I have no quarrel with different ethnic groups, and they have no quarrel with me. We support each other, because we're a community, and that's what community members do.
Oh, you're not missing much in the racist sense. I personally like the grifters out there that say "you're privileged" in one sentence, then say you're an oppressed minority in the next.
You forget: I'm a certified cis+het all-men shitlord!
Being white/asian(or japanese)-het I get the unique chance to see the triple standards first hand at times. And all the whining that gets thrown my way too.
I would not leave a career where I have 20+ years of experience for flipping burgers lightly.
Neither would I, but I'd move my repositories to something besides github(which I and the company I work for has long since done). Especially since they no longer believe in merit, and are hiring professional victims for their social outreach section. What I expect is github will survive as long as they don't stick their fingers into peoples repositories too much. Though their new CoC is doing so, and angering peoples. What the pushover even will be, I can't say, but if it's anything like what's happening at twitter...when it happens, it'll be spectacular.
I would hope such a code of conduct would have my back.
It doesn't. There's no such thing as "reverse-isms" in their world, and since their definition of racism is "power+privlidge" you're fucked.
A strong code of conduct also really helps, and the community is pretty good at self policing it with good tools to block trolls.
You mean like how that "strong code of conduct" was immediately brought out to try and silence and remove actual project maintainers? Yeah, good plan. We'll just kick people out because they don't conform to our political ideology...you know. Like this where we can watch the power grab in real time. And that's why CoC's are dangerous. And why developers are speaking out against them. Or saying, you need actual expert advice. Not some whiner who wants to use it as a "diversity checkmark."
Merit is the only CoC programming needs, you think otherwise then you're likely right there beside the people who believe that 0 programming skills and skin colour makes a person a programmer.
No one has said that the internet is a 1st world luxury. But if you really want to help people, the internet is way down on the list of things that someone in developing countries actually needs. A baby dying of disease can't eat the internet, it won't give them vaccinations or treatments for that disease either. It won't help the technologically illiterate in any of those cases either, because many of those people who don't have running water or basic sanitation or even food, are in many cases illiterate as well.
That is correct, but is that necessarily a bad thing?
Yes. I can think of a lot of other things he could be doing if he really wanted, like helping modernize India. Or you know, basic things like running water to your home, and a toilet that isn't the street running beside your house, or directly into the river...where you're also getting your drinking water.
Well it can lead to more money it depends on the product, and the price. In some cases you can lose money by dropping the price.
But in PC gamers case, it does mean PC gamers are cheap bastards. Why else is the PC version an afterthought? HUGE games like Fallout or Divinity or Dragon Age aren't worth $59 to PC gamers? Do you think that Bethesda considers some guy who buys skyrim for $5 on a steam sale in 2016 a "real" customer compared to those who bought the thing in November of 2011? Whose feedback are they going to be more interested in?
Never heard the saying "it's easier to make a fast nickle instead of a slow quarter?"
No, it means nothing of the sort except what you believe. The PC version isn't an afterthought, huge games like FO, Divinity and Dragon Age weren't afterthoughts. All three of those games were PC only titles to start with. FO4 if you're talking about a specific case, was so dumbed down that people on both sides are complaining about the lack of RPG elements. And according to Bethesda, yes they're a customer still.
I'm old enough to remember the 80's and the prices then, considering inflation and how much game you get for your money, games cost LESS than what they did then. Go on, check the Sears Wishbook in 81 or 83 if you don't believe me.
Funny, me too! And sadly, no they don't. See I live in this place called "Not the USA" that means an average title is now around $89-129.
#define latest console.
#thisisthe2ndand3rdworldyou'retalkingabout