I guess it depends on whether you find applications of personal logic the highest goal humankind can strive for.
I don't, but it's important to have an agreeable base from which to build. If we can't agree upon using logic, then we can't really think or talk. If that's the case, then conversation would get really dull. Fast.
The problem is your reply deals with different levels of consciousness influenced by very real, very provable outside forces. No one is denying that if you take LSD you experience a different level of consciousness. What people are denying is the idea that god exists, and thus caused religion to come into existence.
If anything, you're driving the point home. All the crap that collectively has caused religion has actually existed. The idea that god created religion is a bunch of crap.
Then perhaps the OP should say what he means if he is going to be flailing about wildly with Occam's Razor.
I did say what I meant. I didn't realize the smallest bit of thinking on your own would be so challenging. Perhaps in the future I should make sure that what I post on Slashdot is written from several perspectives. Maybe I should take the time to come up with counter-arguments, I-don't-get-it questions, flames, and pictures of the penis bird for each of my replies ahead of time so that everyone knows exactly the whole story, so people like you don't have to think.
On the side, what do you mean "lack of evidence"? There is plenty of evidence. What's lacking are honest interpretations of the evidence.
Oh wait, you're already not thinking. You're swimming in the three-ring blowup pool of faith. Splash splash good! Logic hard!
So, on the basis of exactly *what* "evidence" (remember, you said "given the evidence at hand") have you concluded that "(b) There is no god..."?
Well, for (a) we have the following: conjecture, speculation, unsubstantiated claims. In other words, all the evidence for the veracity of (a) indicates that (a) is a bunch of hooey.
For (b), if we have even the barest logical reason for believing it, it has come out as the most likely answer.
It's like math, in school. If Jimmy has three oranges, and Timmy has zero oranges, Jimmy's going to make good money scalping at the lunch line, and Timmy's going to continue having... nothing.
(a) There is a god, and he caused the creation of religion
and
(b) There is no god, and religion is an institution that has its roots in superstition and social control
One has to make the most likely choice given the evidence at hand. Most logical, lucid people who discount that which cannot be proven find themselves coming to logical conclusions.
It amazes me how some people (not necessarily you) will suspend the very logic which they use in every other aspect of their life just for the chance to believe in something or someone that, for all intents and purposes, doesn't exist.
Sadly, given that the breasts are most assuredly not hers, the nipples as well are complete fabrications.
Somehow, the thought of Angelina Jolie's body having hot, non-breathable latex wrapped around it with little bits of rubber to simulate artificial nipples doesn't quite appeal to me.
...doing IT support, for server and desktop. I've found that systems that are left out where "bad things" can happen to them tend to be in the best shape, whereas it's the computers in the offices of doctors and staff that are the nastiest things I've ever had to touch.
It seems to me like most of these docs don't know the first thing about hygeine, let alone the first thing about spreading disease. I've gone so far as to wear the bright green latex gloves while working with someone's keyboard because it was covered in his flaked off dead skin.
I prefer to touch the endoscopic computers that are used by the gastroenterologists while examining someone's colon than the computers in most of these offices. You'd think that at a hospital you'd wash your hands often because there are sick people around. I wash my hands often because I'm scared of what disgusting shit's going to get on me next from some doc's PC.
I just purchased a 12" iBook last week. I can't stand the bloody thing. The Apple store that kindly installed the extra 512 MB RAM (to make up for the pathetic 128 that it comes with) and the airport card managed to strip screws inside as well.
The thing is just a toy. It's a toy laptop that pretends to be a real computer. It's made of plastic and the world's lightest metal, which just so happens to be the world's weakest metal as well, as evidenced by the Apple store's great care of the internal screws.
It's been an unfortunate 12 days, and now I can't even send it back because they have a whopping 10 day return policy. 10 days? Even Dell provides 30. I feel completely ripped off because I don't like using the damned thing and can't get rid of it.
If anyone wants a 12 day old 900 MHz iBook with 640 MB RAM, Airport, 40 GB hard drive, and the original packaging, all on the cheap, let me know. Otherwise, it's off to eBay with this thing. I'm willing to let it go for three or four hundred less than what I paid at this point. I can get an Intel laptop that I'd be a lot more comfortable with for that anyway. No offense to any Apple fans. I just can't use the thing.
...my girlfriend works somewhere where they tend to keep logs going back the last decade on what sites people visit. I've been unable to find a good proxying bit of software that is opensource so I could run an anonymizer for her.
Basically what I'm looking for is something like anonymizer.com, where she can put in a URL in an HTML form, click "Go", and it will display the site in a frame with a new form in the top frame with the "go" button, that way instead of seeing that she went to yahoo.com they'd see she went to mysite.com/go.php?1293874 or perhaps go.pl?239861.
Does anyone know of any opensource software for that other than PHP-Proxy which doesn't seem to have been updated, ever (and yes, I can do some hacking on my own, but I'd prefer a mature project to save time).
You're apparently using Windows, hence IE being installed. I imagine your users are in a domain, but if not, disregard the following.
Group Policy in Windows 2000 allows you to create MSI packages that can be rolled out to multiple clients and that will be installed when the user starts up the computer. If you check the Windows 2000 Server CD, you'll find the light version of WinInstall, called WinInstall LE (winstally around here). This will let you scan a computer, then you can run any updates (for example, patching IE, or installing Mozilla), then rescan the computer to find out what has changed. If you have moderately homogenous desktops, this shouldn't be a problem, even across hardware platforms.
Unfortunately, group policies can only be applied to Windows 2000 clients and above, but if that's what you have, then you're in luck.
You shouldn't have too much trouble rolling the package together, and it can come in handy when you have multiple clients to update.
And to the best of my knowledge, use of WinInstall LE is free no matter how you're using it, but you might want to read their documentation on the CD first.
Philips has been doing this for well over a year and a half. I still get their emails every few months about their new product that they're beta testing, and happily ignore it.
Don't let some marketroid take your personal data. Don't become a statistical probability of purchasing.
Do NOT forget these oh so very important words. S/He is NOT a lawyer, and does NOT know the law. I wouldn't go to a flight attendant convention and ask them how to fix my carburetor. I certainly wouldn't go talk to a bunch of geeks about something as very important and complicated as law, especially since taking the wrong advice could leave you in VIOLATION of the law.
So to recap, people here ARE NOT LAWYERS, and if you want legal advice about someone making threatening statements about you breaking the law, I would strongly urge you to start taking this seriously by talking to a person who can give you a serious, and correct, answer. The fifty different ideas presented here have been refuted and re-refuted fifty times each, which should give you a hint: none of the arguments seem to be able to hold their own.
And for god's sake, stop asking questions about very complicated legal issues while providing only the barest and most vague details and then expecting people who have no legal knowledge or training (like the above poster so graciously admitted) to solve your problem in pretty, neat paragraphs.
Sorry, but chances are you don't pay for your Internet connection. State colleges (I don't know how it is in Canada) are primarily funded from non-tuition based sources. Figure that a student pays a thousand dollars per semester, and there are fifteen-thousand students, that's 30,000,000 dollars per year for the school. Now figure you have 150 faculty members, at an average of 65,000 dollars per year. That's 9,750,000 dollars just to pay for faculty. Now figure there are 300 staff members on campus, at an average of 40,000 dollars per year. That's 12,000,000 dollars per year. That's 21.75 million dollars per year, leaving you with 8.25 million dollars to pay every student employee (probably around 4,000 of them), pay the electricity, pay water, pay maintenace, pay for office materials, including computers for so many of the people who work there, and pay back all the money it has borrowed in the past to cover various costs of running the campus.
Now tell me you pay for your bandwidth, which probably costs the university more than ten-thousand dollars per month.
What on earth do you need from AD that cannot be solved otherwise?
Group Policy. If there's one thing that is important to an organization with many computers that require support, it's group policy.
Beyond that, there are a large number of reasons. If you've never used Active Directory, then you don't understand the integration it offers that you can't find elsewhere easily.
Bear in mind that is an unedited log. Over 70% of requests for documents on my webserver are attempted IIS exploits. Are Linux attacks on the rise? Sure, maybe, but as long as there are infected Windows servers worming their way around, Windows attacks will also be higher.
Take a moment to notice my explicit use of American terminology, such as American numbers, American dollars, and American citizens on this American website predominantly visited by American geeks.
Sorry if I didn't present the numbers in a format you could readily interpret.
...but consider the possibilities before you do. I won't get into the validity of the claim, but if we assume that it's true, then take this into account:
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=104918 1
It is possible to fit 6 billion people into the Isle of Wright with room to spare. In fact, you could fit 27 billion people into a cube one mile by one mile by one mile.
Only catch is, each person would have 12 cubic feet, or six feet by two feet by one foot. Now imagine that you're at the bottom of the cube.
What is overlooked time and time again in the "you can fit x people into ____" argument is that just because you can fit a population into an area doesn't mean that area can support it. The most common example is Texas, at least in America. But what about arable land?
"If you divided the world's 6 billion humans into Texas's 261,914 square miles, each person could claim.028 acres of land. It is obvious, however, that the land in Texas, (or even the land in North America for that matter), would not be able to sustain these people. Resource experts say a minimum of 0.17 acres of arable land is needed to sustain a person on a largely vegetarian diet without the intense use of fertilizers and pest controls.
An estimated 253 million people currently live in countries with scarce arable land--which have on average no more than 0.17 acres available per person -- and this population is expected to at least triple by 2025 if current trends continue. Only 11 percent of the Earth consists of arable land, and that area is rapidly diminishing due to erosion, salinization and a decline in the practice of fallowing land."
As for space, let's say people will be transplanted to Mars by 2030. The world population will be 8.1 billion by then (http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldpop.html). In order to maintain current population levels, we would have to devise methods to transplant 2 billion people within thirty years. At a round trip of two years to get to Mars at the optimal revolution of the planets around the sun, with 50,000 people making the trip each time, you would need to make 40,000 trips before you could transplant 2 billion people, over the course of 80,000 years, at which point you might see H.G. Wells and his time machine where London once was.
What's my point? Look for answers close to home. Keeping your head in the clouds can be fun, but not always productive. Rather than trying to find solutions to the effects of overpopulation, one should try to find solutions to the causes of overpopulation.
For those interested, let's say we started sending people now and wanted to make sure we were at 6 billion people in 2030; the number of trips that could be made is 15, at 133 million people per trip. The maximum number of people to send at today's capability per ship is about ten. That's 13 million ships being sent every two years, plus enough food and water to feed people for the ten to twenty years it would take to allow for food to be grown on Mars. Put the cost of sending each ship at 20 billion dollars (http://www.miami.com/mld/miami/news/world/3607347.htm), not counting the cost of constructing habitats on Mars, and not counting the cost of constantly sending supplies (and even then 20 billion dollars is very modest). That's 260,000,000,000,000,000 dollars (two-hundred sixty quadrillion dollars) every two years, at a total cost of 3,900,000,000,000,000,000 (three-quintillion nine-hundred quadrillion dollars) over the course of thirty years. If every person in the United States (287 million as of this year) were to pay an equal amount towards this, the cost over thirty years would be 13 and a half billion dollars, each.
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You tell me, is it worth ignoring what is obviously well-researched information? Organizations, especially those with a high and well-respected world-wide image like the WWF, don't typically lie outright in papers like this, and anyone who outright disregards what's printed, especially without reading it, is asking for the outcome presented to happen.
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I guess it depends on whether you find applications of personal logic the highest goal humankind can strive for.
I don't, but it's important to have an agreeable base from which to build. If we can't agree upon using logic, then we can't really think or talk. If that's the case, then conversation would get really dull. Fast.
The problem is your reply deals with different levels of consciousness influenced by very real, very provable outside forces. No one is denying that if you take LSD you experience a different level of consciousness. What people are denying is the idea that god exists, and thus caused religion to come into existence.
If anything, you're driving the point home. All the crap that collectively has caused religion has actually existed. The idea that god created religion is a bunch of crap.
For (b), if we have even the barest logical reason for believing it, it has come out as the most likely answer.
It's like math, in school. If Jimmy has three oranges, and Timmy has zero oranges, Jimmy's going to make good money scalping at the lunch line, and Timmy's going to continue having... nothing.
...just sliced your reply in two.
Sorry, but when faced with the two choices of:
(a) There is a god, and he caused the creation of religion
and
(b) There is no god, and religion is an institution that has its roots in superstition and social control
One has to make the most likely choice given the evidence at hand. Most logical, lucid people who discount that which cannot be proven find themselves coming to logical conclusions.
It amazes me how some people (not necessarily you) will suspend the very logic which they use in every other aspect of their life just for the chance to believe in something or someone that, for all intents and purposes, doesn't exist.
Sadly, given that the breasts are most assuredly not hers, the nipples as well are complete fabrications. Somehow, the thought of Angelina Jolie's body having hot, non-breathable latex wrapped around it with little bits of rubber to simulate artificial nipples doesn't quite appeal to me.
...doing IT support, for server and desktop. I've found that systems that are left out where "bad things" can happen to them tend to be in the best shape, whereas it's the computers in the offices of doctors and staff that are the nastiest things I've ever had to touch.
It seems to me like most of these docs don't know the first thing about hygeine, let alone the first thing about spreading disease. I've gone so far as to wear the bright green latex gloves while working with someone's keyboard because it was covered in his flaked off dead skin.
I prefer to touch the endoscopic computers that are used by the gastroenterologists while examining someone's colon than the computers in most of these offices. You'd think that at a hospital you'd wash your hands often because there are sick people around. I wash my hands often because I'm scared of what disgusting shit's going to get on me next from some doc's PC.
The point is this is a remotely exploitable system level hole.
It's important to note that the system account is god in Windows -- even Administrator has less power than system.
I just purchased a 12" iBook last week. I can't stand the bloody thing. The Apple store that kindly installed the extra 512 MB RAM (to make up for the pathetic 128 that it comes with) and the airport card managed to strip screws inside as well.
The thing is just a toy. It's a toy laptop that pretends to be a real computer. It's made of plastic and the world's lightest metal, which just so happens to be the world's weakest metal as well, as evidenced by the Apple store's great care of the internal screws.
It's been an unfortunate 12 days, and now I can't even send it back because they have a whopping 10 day return policy. 10 days? Even Dell provides 30. I feel completely ripped off because I don't like using the damned thing and can't get rid of it.
If anyone wants a 12 day old 900 MHz iBook with 640 MB RAM, Airport, 40 GB hard drive, and the original packaging, all on the cheap, let me know. Otherwise, it's off to eBay with this thing. I'm willing to let it go for three or four hundred less than what I paid at this point. I can get an Intel laptop that I'd be a lot more comfortable with for that anyway. No offense to any Apple fans. I just can't use the thing.
...my girlfriend works somewhere where they tend to keep logs going back the last decade on what sites people visit. I've been unable to find a good proxying bit of software that is opensource so I could run an anonymizer for her.
Basically what I'm looking for is something like anonymizer.com, where she can put in a URL in an HTML form, click "Go", and it will display the site in a frame with a new form in the top frame with the "go" button, that way instead of seeing that she went to yahoo.com they'd see she went to mysite.com/go.php?1293874 or perhaps go.pl?239861.
Does anyone know of any opensource software for that other than PHP-Proxy which doesn't seem to have been updated, ever (and yes, I can do some hacking on my own, but I'd prefer a mature project to save time).
It is THEIR life to live, not yours to end.
You're apparently using Windows, hence IE being installed. I imagine your users are in a domain, but if not, disregard the following.
Group Policy in Windows 2000 allows you to create MSI packages that can be rolled out to multiple clients and that will be installed when the user starts up the computer. If you check the Windows 2000 Server CD, you'll find the light version of WinInstall, called WinInstall LE (winstally around here). This will let you scan a computer, then you can run any updates (for example, patching IE, or installing Mozilla), then rescan the computer to find out what has changed. If you have moderately homogenous desktops, this shouldn't be a problem, even across hardware platforms.
Unfortunately, group policies can only be applied to Windows 2000 clients and above, but if that's what you have, then you're in luck.
You shouldn't have too much trouble rolling the package together, and it can come in handy when you have multiple clients to update.
And to the best of my knowledge, use of WinInstall LE is free no matter how you're using it, but you might want to read their documentation on the CD first.
...CNN has begun work on obits for New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe...
Philips has been doing this for well over a year and a half. I still get their emails every few months about their new product that they're beta testing, and happily ignore it.
Don't let some marketroid take your personal data. Don't become a statistical probability of purchasing.
Oh... I thought you said "TI 86"...
Since when were Dirk Pitt and Al Giordino kernel hackers? I thought they were marine engineers?
So to recap, people here ARE NOT LAWYERS, and if you want legal advice about someone making threatening statements about you breaking the law, I would strongly urge you to start taking this seriously by talking to a person who can give you a serious, and correct, answer. The fifty different ideas presented here have been refuted and re-refuted fifty times each, which should give you a hint: none of the arguments seem to be able to hold their own.
And for god's sake, stop asking questions about very complicated legal issues while providing only the barest and most vague details and then expecting people who have no legal knowledge or training (like the above poster so graciously admitted) to solve your problem in pretty, neat paragraphs.
Sorry, but chances are you don't pay for your Internet connection. State colleges (I don't know how it is in Canada) are primarily funded from non-tuition based sources. Figure that a student pays a thousand dollars per semester, and there are fifteen-thousand students, that's 30,000,000 dollars per year for the school. Now figure you have 150 faculty members, at an average of 65,000 dollars per year. That's 9,750,000 dollars just to pay for faculty. Now figure there are 300 staff members on campus, at an average of 40,000 dollars per year. That's 12,000,000 dollars per year. That's 21.75 million dollars per year, leaving you with 8.25 million dollars to pay every student employee (probably around 4,000 of them), pay the electricity, pay water, pay maintenace, pay for office materials, including computers for so many of the people who work there, and pay back all the money it has borrowed in the past to cover various costs of running the campus.
Now tell me you pay for your bandwidth, which probably costs the university more than ten-thousand dollars per month.
Beyond that, there are a large number of reasons. If you've never used Active Directory, then you don't understand the integration it offers that you can't find elsewhere easily.
Try again: Windows XP supports hyperthreading.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=5616
Try taking an uncompressed image off your hard drive and converting it to JPG and PNG.
THEN compare.
... and anyone running a webserver can tell you.
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Bear in mind that is an unedited log. Over 70% of requests for documents on my webserver are attempted IIS exploits. Are Linux attacks on the rise? Sure, maybe, but as long as there are infected Windows servers worming their way around, Windows attacks will also be higher.
Take a moment to notice my explicit use of American terminology, such as American numbers, American dollars, and American citizens on this American website predominantly visited by American geeks.
Sorry if I didn't present the numbers in a format you could readily interpret.
Only catch is, each person would have 12 cubic feet, or six feet by two feet by one foot. Now imagine that you're at the bottom of the cube.
What is overlooked time and time again in the "you can fit x people into ____" argument is that just because you can fit a population into an area doesn't mean that area can support it. The most common example is Texas, at least in America. But what about arable land? As for space, let's say people will be transplanted to Mars by 2030. The world population will be 8.1 billion by then (http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldpop.html). In order to maintain current population levels, we would have to devise methods to transplant 2 billion people within thirty years. At a round trip of two years to get to Mars at the optimal revolution of the planets around the sun, with 50,000 people making the trip each time, you would need to make 40,000 trips before you could transplant 2 billion people, over the course of 80,000 years, at which point you might see H.G. Wells and his time machine where London once was.
What's my point? Look for answers close to home. Keeping your head in the clouds can be fun, but not always productive. Rather than trying to find solutions to the effects of overpopulation, one should try to find solutions to the causes of overpopulation.
For those interested, let's say we started sending people now and wanted to make sure we were at 6 billion people in 2030; the number of trips that could be made is 15, at 133 million people per trip. The maximum number of people to send at today's capability per ship is about ten. That's 13 million ships being sent every two years, plus enough food and water to feed people for the ten to twenty years it would take to allow for food to be grown on Mars. Put the cost of sending each ship at 20 billion dollars (http://www.miami.com/mld/miami/news/world/360734
...trannies.