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  1. Re:[OT] Re: total of 5+ days without access on University Network Policies and Punishment? · · Score: 1

    You'll find that some public universities in California have rates around 550 per semester. Others are 2000+. It depends on the quality of the school, the location, the enrollment level, etc.

  2. Re: total of 5+ days without access on University Network Policies and Punishment? · · Score: 1
    That's a bill that I'm footing, so damn it, I expect them to respond in a manner befitting an ISP
    Sorry, but chances are you don't pay for your Internet connection. State colleges are primarily funded from non-tuition based sources. Figure that a student pays a thousand dollars per semester, and there are fifteen-thousand students, that's 30,000,000 dollars per year for the school. Now figure you have 150 faculty members, at an average of 65,000 dollars per year. That's 9,750,000 dollars just to pay for faculty. Now figure there are 300 staff members on campus, at an average of 40,000 dollars per year. That's 12,000,000 dollars per year. That's 21.75 million dollars per year, leaving you with 8.25 million dollars to pay every student employee, pay the electricity, pay water, pay maintenace, pay for office materials, including computers for so many of the people who work there, and pay back all the money it has borrowed in the past to cover various costs of running the campus.

    Now tell me you pay for your bandwidth, which probably costs the university more than ten-thousand dollars per month.
  3. Re:Licensing on How Well Does Windows Cluster? · · Score: 1

    Most schools do have site licensing, but you forget: site licenses aren't that at all.

    Universities, or more often the univeristy systems of public universities will buy a set number of licenses at a high discount. The upshot is, you have 500,000 students/faculty/staff in your university system, and you buy 400,000 licenses for their workstation products, because not everyone will use theirs. But the downshort is, no one in their right mind is going to buy 400,000 licenses for their server products, they will typically buy 5-10,000 server licenses and tell the universities to fight over them.

    "Site" licenses, at least from Microsoft, don't exist. It's one license at a time, paid for in full.

  4. Can't blame them on Google Allows Sponsored Rankings...In Ads · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I sure as hell can't figure out how they've survived this long with their "Make No Money/Spend Lots of Money" business strategy.

    I mean really, how much money do you think Google pulls in through their ads? Do you think that cost per month can even pay for their electricity costs for powering and cooling 8,000 machines? How in the world do they do it?

  5. Re:My experience(f*ck me!) on Bandwidth Demand at American Universities · · Score: 1

    What school are you attending? I'll tell you if you are or not.

    We do not have daily bandwidth caps because if a student is using the network for legitimate academic purposes then we cannot stop them, as they are obeying the AUP. I never said all students were thieves, but that a very small number of them refused to follow the rules even after being informed they were breaking them. We do not supervise them, nor do we do any sort of filtering or firewalling in order to keep academic data from them. I even went as far as to say that we don't care in the least as long as they don't start impacting other users (which we usually assume to be around 2 Mb/s for more than an hour).

    Regardless of whether this is their home or not, they signed an agreement. The agreement stated that they would not do certain things, just like in a real apartment or house in the real world. If your lease agreement says no cats, and then you get a cat, and they kick you out, don't complain.

  6. Re:The Students are Your Customers on Bandwidth Demand at American Universities · · Score: 1

    Let's see...

    15,000 students pay 2,030 dollars per year for a total of 30,450,000 dollars per year from tuition.

    Approximately 400 faculty members making an average of 60,000 dollars per year for 24,000,000 dollars per year for their salaries.

    Approximately 3,000 other on-campus jobs receiving a total of 6,000,000 dollars per year works out to 2,000 dollars per year per employee.

    Then count in the approximately 250,000 dollar per month electricity bill for this mid-sized California university. That's 3,000,000 dollars per year.

    The cost of running a university far exceeds the income generated by student fees. The point of what I was saying is that students do not pay to use the campus network for non-academic purposes. They cannot pay to use it for non-academic purposes, because even if they wanted to, our provider (4CNET) does not allow non-academic use of its network. If students did agree to (a very large) tuition increase for a technology fee then they could ask that the university purchase bandwidth from someone else for whatever purpose they choose. Unfortunately, since 95% of on-campus students are freshman, you will be hard pressed to convince the other 65-70% of the university to agree to the increase so they can feed their Napster-machine addiction.

  7. Re:The Students are Your Customers on Bandwidth Demand at American Universities · · Score: 1

    There is no technology fee at the university I work for. Students don't pay for it, and are given academically related access to the university network. This public university exists for the school, but until the students shell out private university level fees, they aren't paying for a damned thing.

  8. Re:high bandwidth use != piracy on Bandwidth Demand at American Universities · · Score: 1

    The Nsync example was just that: an example.

    To clarify, non-academic use (that means even looking at Yahoo! for fun) is prohibited through the campus network. No one cares until the academic functions of the campus are impacted. Students putting up home movies of themselves or downloading the latest six ISOs for their favorite distro are all the same; if it isn't academic, it isn't allowed.

    If you don't pique our curiosity, we don't care.

  9. Re:Skip the moralizing, just charge students on Bandwidth Demand at American Universities · · Score: 1

    Paying to increase the campus connection by 20-30 Mb/s to compensate for student use does not good economics make. There's no reason for us to pay 15-25 thousand dollars more per month to have only the (at most) 30 students pay a little extra to use it.

    Regardless, agreements with the university include statements that state simply "access to the campus network," not limited or tiered access.

  10. Re:My experience on Bandwidth Demand at American Universities · · Score: 1

    OK, not to be subversive here, but isn't kicking someone out of the dorms for 'netting too much kind of like kicking someone out of college for drinking too much?

    Nope. In fact, kicking someone out of the dorms for negatively impacting the academic functions of the campus is exactly what we should do, and students signed an agreement with the university saying really clearly "If I refuse to follow your rules, you can kick me out," before they even paid or moved in.

    Life's tough, but hey, they never had to sign the agreement, move in, or use that much bandwidth. No one twisted their arm.

  11. My experience on Bandwidth Demand at American Universities · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At an unnamed university in California for whom I work, we have available at any given time ~ 40 Mb/s, with around 800 students living on campus. Normally our network situation isn't bad, but this last fall semester it got completely out of hand.

    Of the 40 Mb/s, on average one-half of it would be in use directly by students in the dorms. At times, individual ports would be using 7-8 Mb/s, for as long as ten hours at a time. Eventually, it was decided that the impact on the university's bandwidth was affecting the educational functions of the campus network and all users were reminded by mail of the campus AUP for the network.

    Students, being students, ignored it largely. The offenders who chose to ignore it and flaunt the fact they were ignoring it (anything above 2 Mb/s for over a few hours) were warned by mail individually, and after that, had their ports shut off and the MAC address of their computers banned from the DHCP pool, so no matter where they went (i.e., plugging it into their roommate's port), they were locked out. To receive service again, they needed to contact the student judicial affairs, which involved only signing an agreement not to be naughty again, with the threat of being kicked out of the dorms.

    Long story short, a few people got their ports shut off and had to go through all the rigamarole. Most of they had no idea what they did was wrong, and didn't understand that leaving Kazaa, Morpheus and all their other file trading utilities on all day long was not only illegal, but the reason they received the notices in the first place.

    It boggles my mind to think that these kids got into a university and don't understand that downloading the new N'sync album before it's on store shelves is illegal. Theft is theft, no matter who you're screwing over, but luckily, most will figure it out pretty quickly when the university tells them they were disconnected because Sony contacted the university about their particular computer, and yes, both the university and Sony would be more than happy to have them kicked off campus rather than deal legally with a pirate.

  12. Re:CS good. MIS/CIS bad. on On the Differences Between MIS/CIS/CS Degrees? · · Score: 3, Insightful

    MIS/CIS is more like a trade school degree

    That's a load of crap--MIS is a very advanced field. The emphasis is placed on business, the same business courses that are taken by people in human resources, accounting, finance, management, marketing, production and operations management, you name it. The point of the course is to take it in an IT direction, and many of the biggest money makers are the ones who get jobs at places like SAP and PeopleSoft, people who end up as specialists in their management software and can consult regarding the business impact of the software. These people are the ones who get hired by the company through their employer to come tell the company what to do with their business.

    The reason it isn't a two year degree is because you actually take courses, just like any other actual degree program. It's a full business program, not a CS program, which is why it's a part of the college of business at universities, not the college of computer science.

    Think before you speak, know something about what's involved in a degree program and what you do with that degree post-graduation before you talk.

  13. MIS is... on On the Differences Between MIS/CIS/CS Degrees? · · Score: 2, Informative

    Management Information Systems. It is a focus on the business and management portion of computing. People with degrees in MIS can go into a variety of positions, but they are usually either business related computing (i.e., drafting IT plans for companies, helping bridge gaps in IT in companies), or consulting for companies with important business software, such as PeopleSoft.

    Computer science people are the ones who write the software MIS people implement and use.

  14. Re:My eXPerience with it on Windows XP - The eXPerience Thus Far? · · Score: 1

    not full-featured (or fully tested/trusted) compared to alternatives (compare PCAnywhere to the Remote feature)

    Microsoft's Remote Assistance is just Microsoft's Terminal Server, with a few adjustments to prevent multiple concurrent users. It's a well proven bit of software that's been used since Windows NT 4, and is used by other software vendors (namely Citrix) for their thin-client products. It uses the RDP protocol. Read up on it, very interesting technology.

    CD Creator 4 is also unusable

    Microsoft released about a week ago updates to Windows XP that include compatability for EZ CD Creator 4. If you go to windowsupdate.microsoft.com, it will automatically be selected for installation.

    Just a few things to chew on.

  15. Re:Why give up because day 1 had problems? on EQ 'Shadow of Luclin' -- Pretty Graphics, Ugly Release · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, keep in mind that The Phantom Menace wouldn't crash and just project a desktop to the screen every time Obi Wan used a Jedi mind trick.

  16. MSN.com is not XHTML 1.0 compliant on MSN Blocks Mozilla, Other Browsers [updated] · · Score: 0, Redundant
  17. Re:SPA on MSN Forces Outlook POP · · Score: 1

    Forte Agent supports Secure Password Authentication. It's not a Microsoft only standard, and has nothing to do with Microsoft specifically, just clients that support secure authentication.

  18. The issue is meaningless on How Would Crypto Back Doors Work? · · Score: 1

    The issue is meaningless. The number of encryption programs out there, from Jim-Bob's Homebrew UltrAlgorithm, to PGP versions 1 through 7, is just staggering. In order to stop the use of non-authorized encryption programs, the government would have to either ban their use and have it be punishable by quite a hefty fine or imprisonment, or remove them from existence.

    How many John Ashcroft's with jackbooted thugs do you think there are? They're not exactly going to go kicking down the doors of every person who uses an encryption program, nor are they going to damage the business sector by restricting use of encryption; even SSL would have to be modified on every web server from the -open source- Apache, to Microsoft's IIS. It's hard enough to get IIS system administrator's to patch their machines against exploits, do you think they'll really add a patch that would weaken security? Do you think knowledgable Apache administrators would install a patch and turn around and tell their customers and visitors that even though encryption between the website and customer is secure, the NSA has complete and total access to it?

    Even further, the volume of open source encryption products is staggering. If the government did manage to force Network Associates, one of the biggest encryption providers out there whose business would be nearly gone without it, to modify the now-closed source PGP 7, the source code for PGP 1-6.5.8 is still out there. Even patched, it can be recompiled and reinstalled.

    But why would we need to recompile and reinstall? Any server located in the US would need to do so if such daring legislation were passed, but www.pgpi.org isn't located here, and its express purpose is to provide encryption worldwide, freely, to anyone that wants it from any country.

    People who would use encryption for "evil" purposes wouldn't bend over and take it from the government; in fact, these people would stop and think to themselves, "HOLY SHIT, Uncle Sam will be listening in on my encrypted conversations, and I'll be drawing attention to myself by even using encryption! Since few people use encryption, they only need to decode a small amount, which means I'll be caught in no time flat!" In other words, if you know you're being watched, you don't put your hand in the cookie jar. You get your cookies some other way--any way--and when the cookie jar is the size of the Internet, there are a lot of paths to the cookies, with a lot of roads around watchful eyes.

    What is the purpose of key escrow/backdoors? The people demand action, and congress is giving it to them. The CIA and NSA say that with broader powers and the permission to get into encryption, they could have prevented this. The truth is, if ten years ago it had been forced upon us, it still wouldn't matter, because the products would still be made, because there would still be a demand. And if it happens today, the products will still be there whether or not there is demand. It's a saddening thing to note that congress is rushing into action, when the express purpose of the representative republic in the United States, as written through the constitution, is to delay the will of the mob so that decisions, especially those that infringe upon freedoms (constitutional freedoms, as well), are not made in a rash and emotional state. Unfortunately, rather than debate, the congress swept aside their knowledge from constitution college courses and rushed to give the president full military force to do whatever he sees fit, and are now rushing to squash civil liberties. Living in a prison free from attack is still living in a prison.

  19. Re:Learn HTML on Primers for Entering The World Of Web Development? · · Score: 1
    It does matter, because even if no one looks, proper HTML will:
    • Make it easier to edit in the future
    • Make it easier to read
    • Make it portable to XML
    • Make it portable to XHTML
    • Make it easier to incorporate into other pages
    • Make it easier to script with -- scripting out badly formed HTML creates badly formed pages
    • Make it easier for you to get a job when you say <p class="bodytext">I know HTML!</p> instead of <font size="5"><p><b><i>I know HTML!</font></i></p></b>
    • Make it W3C compliant, a standard that is just that -- a standard
    • Make it easier for people to copy your source to learn how you went about something so they can achieve the same ends
    The list goes on, but the most important thing is, it's good habit, and if you want to make a career of it, it's a good idea to do it well rather than shoddily, the same as in any other profession.
  20. Here's an idea: on Do Modern PCs Need Swap Space? · · Score: 1

    RAM disk for your swap file. teehee

  21. California State University, Chico on Are Online University Programs Any Good? · · Score: 4

    CSU Chico in northern California has an online education program for distance students. We used to use satellite based tv for students that were in other areas, but we recently switched to using streaming video. The software package we use is called HorizonLive, and the actual teaching material is presented through WebCT. The sites themselves, if you want to look, are live.csuchico.edu and online.csuchico.edu. They give a quick and easy way for professors to teach (by streaming video, and the minimum speed requirements are 28.8 kbps w/Real Video), a way to interact (live chat), and that's just during the class. All classes are archived as well so students can watch the classes again and again if necessary. There are also bulletin boards, private messages, calendars, online testing, and more. In a nutshell, it gives people who would otherwise never have a chance at getting a degree a chance.

    Fall of 2000 was our second test semester, and the first semester we dropped satellite testing. We offer over thirty classes now, with more coming next semester. You can go to either URL and test out the system, but hurry, the semester ends on Friday :)

    What do I think of it? I think it's great, and if the classes available at this time were classes that I needed, I would take them. Many students on campus take classes that are both WebCT and in person classes, and professors just use WebCT to give tests and post notices and give students a place to interact. With private email, it also makes it very easy for the professor to email everyone in the class. What I also like about the idea is it gives people flexibility in the classes--if you don't want to go to class this morning, don't. Watch the archive. Sleep in until 3 and check your WebCT mail for information on the test. Use the bulletin board to ask someone what you missed. It not only gives people opportunity to go to college when they might not otherwise be able to, but it gives them the flexibility in doing so that many would desire.

  22. As an E2 editor... on Everything2 Hits One Million Nodes · · Score: 1

    ...I can only say it gave me extreme pleasure to remove CmdrTaco's misspelled, one-line, insightless writeup under The X-Files. Childlike-scrawlings may fly on Slashdot, but there's no Crayola font in the real world.

  23. Varies by Telco and Location on A Study on Regional DSL and Cable Speeds? · · Score: 1

    It always varies by the telco, ISP, and location. In San Diego, PacBell offers up to 8 Mbps downstream with 1 Mbps upstream, with 2 phone lines (unique numbers) and 200 minutes of free local toll calls for about $119 per month (that includes all charges for the phone, not counting long distance and taxes). In northern CA (north of Sacramento), PacBell offers 384/128 Kbps for 40 dollars a month, with upgrades to 512/384 for about $150 per month.

    Though I can't vouch for the actual speeds in San Diego, in NorCal the real rates are about 200-250 KBps downstream and 10-15 KBps upstream. That's kilobytes. Watch your capital letters, kids.

  24. Napster this, Napster that on What's The Problem With USENET? · · Score: 1

    It's all well and good that Napster exists, but anyone who says alt.binaries.* needs to be done away with needs a serious reality check: a very very small number of groups in the alt.binaries.* heirarchy is for MP3s.

    1900 binary groups on my server and about 100 are for MP3s. You cannot, flat-out-cannot-I-don't-care-what-magic-tricks-voo doo-or-prayer-you-know, get everything from usenet on Napster, or anywhere else. In addition, the unchecked propagation of information through usenet servers is massively used as a distribution point of information. Want to kill usenet because of the network load? Go kill freenet--I hear it's a lot slower.

  25. PGP 7.0 includes ICQ plugin on Secure Instant Messaging Systems? · · Score: 2

    The newly released PGP 7.0 (pgp.com) includes an ICQ plugin that does realtime encryption of all ICQ messages.

    On top of that, it includes PGPnet, a VPN client that can encrypt all communications between two clients.

    Don't reinvent the wheel.