How do you either of you know what they are like, have you ever met them? How can you say they are hypocrites? Have you ever spoken to them and asked them what their beliefs are?
Aren't you being just slightly judgemental here? You've made an assumption between the plethorer of different things going on at this festival and what they did, without knowing what they do and how this all fits together. Perhaps you ought to presume less and appreciate that you are not being preached to, just presented with some information.
So far as I can made out, they're cider drinking lunatics! (organic cider that is).
Either are acceptable forms in English for the past participle of 'to learn'. However, in British English the form 'learnt' is used and American English, the form 'learned'. Another lesson learnt or learned.
I'm not trying to say I did it first here and I appreciate that others may have different or better information, but to be honest, I can't see that this article improves over what I wrote before. My article covers pigtailing the airport and the use of a number of different types of home made antennae with the base station, including range tests as well as disecting both the Aiport and Airport Extreme.
Perhaps the editors should check a little harder about previous postings when weighing up whether to publish new ones?
Dali was not Spanish, he was actually Catalan, from a place called Port Lligat (Yigat) in northern Catalunya.
I've just noticed that/. doesn't seem to let you use accented characters, neither can you use the XHTML character entities, such as Ampersand+iacute;
Anyway, for those that don't know, or can't tell in/., The 'i' in Dali's name has an accent on it, which is important as it completely changes how you pronounce his name, Da-li, not Dah-lee, with the stress on the the 'li' rather than the 'Da'.
This seems very much like what Apple have done with Mac OS X. It's not a bad idea for end users, but a really bad idea for any UNIX people that have to administrate things. I would suggest though following more closely Apple's lead on this in that the standard system software sites in its normal locations (/etc,/usr,/bin, etc) and then user-level applications and files sit in new directories following a similar naming scheme to Gobo -/Users/Applications etc. I like in UNIX the/usr/local convention for additionally (non-system) installed software. Dunno, I don't think it's that complicated anyway at the moment, apart from a bit disorganised - telling someone that their files are in/home/username makes a lot of sense, binary things in/bin is cool, and that there's loads of other random stuff in/etc makes sense too. Don't know whether it's really needed in the end. Changing the root username is just plain daft really. Sorry! Lastly, being British, I would like a very customised with the programmes in/Programmes please.
I live and work in Spain and need to use Spanish characters everyday. I bought my laptop in Britain, so the keymap is British. I just switch between keymaps with option-apple-spacebar and don't pay any attention to what the keys read when type. It works fine. Same if I have to use a US keyboard, or any keymap. In short just learn a keymap that gives the characters you need and use it!
Debian's a good bet as it installs with a very small footprint and you can work on a good custom build with just what you want. Once perfected, it's easy to get the packages list file of one machine and install packages on another from it. It's excellent for network installs and security updates, nice and stable, not cutting edge (which is good in this case), albeit a little more tricky to learn - but once you have, it, even dselect, is very easy to maintain.
Working in a community wireless project, I've installed builds of it on old recycled Pentiums on I find that either Blackbox, or even the old FVWM or OpenLook (still very good window managers) are the ones to go for, stay away from KDE and GNOME, they're monstrously big in both disc space and RAM terms.
Just a point on the durability of cantennae. Was involved in this wireless project posted to/. in the autumn and we used J&B Whiskey tins as cantennae. They were put up last June and are still up and working nearly a year later, with no signs of failure. They even survived one of the worst gales seen in the west of England for several years (100mph winds if I remember correctly!).
>This article is pretty pointless to focus on Apple. >Unforuntately clueless people will read it and assume that >in order to use wireless they'll have to drill and void their >warranty. The fact is there are plenty of other products >for which none of that is necessary.
Sorry you feel that way, it's true. I just happened to have one and what's nice about it is that because it's round with a flat bottom, you can stick a pigtail on it and have a nice solid N type coaxial connector on the top. The point is not whether there are plenty of other products available, it's what you can do with what you have.
>The first time/. ran one of these "Mod your Airport" >articles however many years ago it was cool but the >wireless product landscape was very different then......
Thanks. Took a while to write it, it really did. I look forward to you writing something less pointless.
> 1. First of all, this 'airport', is really just > an RG1100 with a different cover. Sure, you can > connect antennas to it. But it's not a "MAC > Only" think it's a "Windows thing" that just so > happens to have MAC OSX drivers. Google on > rg1000 + linux/windows. You'll find several java > config tools. Moron.
Erm. Don't quite get you, where did all that come from? Yes there are tools for other platforms for it, but I have a sleak sexy PowerBook G4, so I don't need them, and it gets the girls.
> 2. Anyone who really has the title 'wireless > network engineer' would know that building > homebrew antennas just isn't worth the time. > most of them end up sucking, and it's MUCH > cheaper to just purchase one online.
Got money have you? Nah, it's more fun and more rewarding than just charging up the credit card once again. Also these 'homebrew' antennae work very well thank you very much, I am happy with them, certainly for this little 'experiment'. Though if of course someone has the cash for a pro job I'd buy lots of top price branded kit.
BTW. I am a 'wireless network engineer' and have used this kit on several occasions to do real jobs, it's cool, it's for temporary fixed installs, so a Zaraus won't do the trick. But I do a lot of community and free stuff, just for the crack and/or because it's a good cause, and there isn't the money for the pro kit, also the homebrew stuff tends to go down well with ordinary non-wireless network engineer types, they like it, I like it, it gets the girls.
> 3. Anyone who cared about the FCC regs wouldn't > do this.
I don't. As you may have gathered, Barcelona is a city in SPAIN, not the UNITED STATES.
> 4. To do real LOS tests, you want antenna > systems with known gain & radial patterns.
Erm, okay, whatever, I like the homebrew stuff.
> 5. You'll want kistmet, as some other posters > highly under-rated posted.
Kismac, the version of this for Mac OS X is a bit flakey. Kismet didn't work very well, have several tools and plummed for Wavemon as it worked best. But yes, Kismet is pretty good.
The Compaq Portable Computer (their first laptop / luggable) had the 'computer behind the screen' and the keyboard folded up to cover it. Came out in 1982, so not quite unique. Alright, I know that's splitting hairs, but anyway, it was a beast this machine, at least in size, have used one and was involved in kind of owning one that became melted plastic in a forest fire unfortunately. Here's a page about it.
I saw the original of this episode years ago, I don't think many people have. There was a tape of it around (definitely not legal, nor official) of all the finished sequences with captions from the missing bits. It really was a good episode of Dr Who and showed Adams' talent when let loose on good subject matter. I think this is excellent, a great tribute to a great series and a great, and sadly missed, writer.
Favourite episodes of Dr Who: War Games and all the Darlek ones of course:).
was that the episode with Bertie Bassett in it? even if it wasn't, be good to do this and loads of the many, many episodes again. There is just sooooo much material and soooo many good ideas. IMHO I've always though Dr Who a much more inventive and interesting series than Star Trek, maybe not the original Trek, but certainly DS9, Voyager and the latest one (Milkingitager is it called?). It really only suffed from the small budget that the BBC obviously had and eventually from Micahel Grade. RIP!
I am English. We in the UK spell orientated, orientated, it is correct English. In the US it is spelt (or do you prefer spelled?) oriented, it is also correct English. If I were Spanish for example, I'd spell it orientado - notice the same number of syllables as the British spelling. Please don't have a go at my language, that is the language I speak and write and is the way it is.
Thanks for your comments. Yes, we only have 4 houses connected at the moment, this have proven that it works. If you have a look at the project web site, you'll see that we're making funding applications at the moment in order to install more nodes - it's a question of finance essentially. There are plans in the next month to put up several new nodes and to exetend the back-bone to cover a wider area. It is a coumminity oriented project and so anyone with the wherewithal to do so can put up a node now and get connected. If you are interest in being involved in the project, check out the web site and join the mailing list. BTW. We are and have been in discussion with the city council and are looking for funding there.
I totally agree with you. How on Earth does this deserve an article, let alone being posted on/.? Yes we had the same problem when we ran a solar and peddle powered internet cafe [plug] this summer with the titanium casing, the iBooks were loads less sensitive. But really, the thing comes with a PCMCIA slot, so it's hardly rocket science to go and buy a WiFi card no is it!? I use a slimline Buafflo WaveLAN cards, there are some drivers for it on the net somewhere, try Google, works very well, but don't eject it whilst the interface is being used unless you're in to seeing OS X crash!
Next we'll see articles on how connecting and external DVD-RAM drive via firewire, solves the problem of them not coming with TiBooks!
I lost patience with Redhat quite a while back, version 7.0 was terrible and finally put me off. Used to resell the stuff.
I use OS X.1.5 at the moment as my desktop with Fink, XDarwin, Mozilla, OpenOffice etc and it's truly wonderful, my first pleasant end-user computing experience since my old Atari ST 520FM. Dare I say it it can also run PowerPoint and Explorer, so I can open what clients send me and see things how they do. And the ability to print from any Cocao application to PDF is top!
And for servers, sod the desktop integration and all the unecessary stuff, just use Debian GNU/Linux 3.0, if only for the stability and apt-get et al.
That's my vote anyway, all credit to Redhat for continuing to improve their produce and it looks like this one is excellent and will be a winner with a lot of people.
I am devestated by the news that RARE nee Ultimate Play the Game nee Ashby Computer Graphics has been bought by the evil or all evils. This is terrible, have been a fan of theirs ever since JetPac on the ZX Spectrum (that was a Timex Sinclair 2000 or somethingorother in the USofA). Terrible, terrible, I'd just bought a Cube eagerly awaiting DK or Mario or Banjo and Kazooie or something like that to come out. Let's see if they do, but now I can't buy them as I'm swarn against the purchase of Microshaft products.
I've researched into this before, but I don't have any of the information sitting in front of me. As such I'll just drop that part of the argument.
Am interested. For what reason did you research into this before?
Oh ok, just drop it then, okay by me, saves me the time and energy of coming up with any hard-facts myself - which I guess means that I will shit less and do my little bit for the environment, good old mother earth, bless her, but not for very much longer.;)
Can you post in the right place please, it get's very confusing, there's a lot of you on this thread.
Do you have any hard facts to suggest that I'm wrong?
Hang on a minute, surely you shouldn't go around making statements like that without being able to back them up. If you can produce hard facts to prove this, then I will happily bother to find some hard-facts to disprove them.
I don't have any to hand, but surely there is a awful lot of inefficiency in the process of manufacturing soybean oil in the first place and this includes the barrel or can or bottle or whatever it comes in, the nice label, the crates, the trucks (and possibly boats or planes) that you use to transport the oil to the hippie festival and also all the people required to grow it, process it, bottle it, crate it, ship it, drive the trucks, sell the stuff and they all then all produce quite a lot of shit too. Would be interesting to see what is the difference in shitting capacity for the production of enough soybean oil to run the laptop, compared to that of someone that peddles a bike, and they can also ride to the festival on that very same bike, which incidentally is one of our most efficient forms of transportation - unless of course you include horses and then you need lots of soybean oil again to strengthen them up - I'd go for quick release back wheels if I were you.
Preferably the genetically engineered kind, since that's a lot more efficiently grown.
erm for a start it's it's not that's . Anyway, fair comment, but can you explain to me how or rather what way or rather in who's opinion is is more efficiently grown?
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How do you either of you know what they are like, have you ever met them? How can you say they are hypocrites? Have you ever spoken to them and asked them what their beliefs are?
Aren't you being just slightly judgemental here? You've made an assumption between the plethorer of different things going on at this festival and what they did, without knowing what they do and how this all fits together. Perhaps you ought to presume less and appreciate that you are not being preached to, just presented with some information.
So far as I can made out, they're cider drinking lunatics! (organic cider that is).
Either are acceptable forms in English for the past participle of 'to learn'. However, in British English the form 'learnt' is used and American English, the form 'learned'. Another lesson learnt or learned.
Here are the costs for this (in Euros):
- Satellite terminal and dish: 5,000
- Buffalo Tech Base stations x 5: 750
- Assorted cabling: 50
- Home made wireless bits: 150
- Home built rack-mount firewall: 1,000
- Dodge D50 s/h: 3,5000
- Rickshaw: 1,000 (guessed)
- Speakers and Amp, Mixer, Batteries: 1,000
- Solar+Wind+Batteries: 10,000 (guess)
- Other bits and bobs: 100
So quite expensive really, obviously you could this for a lot cheaper.
I already had an article I wrote regarding pigtailing the Airport on Slashdot back in April, so why the same story? I notice that there's a bit of repition here, there was another story published on /. recently that was also covered in the same article I wrote.
I'm not trying to say I did it first here and I appreciate that others may have different or better information, but to be honest, I can't see that this article improves over what I wrote before. My article covers pigtailing the airport and the use of a number of different types of home made antennae with the base station, including range tests as well as disecting both the Aiport and Airport Extreme.
Perhaps the editors should check a little harder about previous postings when weighing up whether to publish new ones?
Dali was not Spanish, he was actually Catalan, from a place called Port Lligat (Yigat) in northern Catalunya.
I've just noticed that /. doesn't seem to let you use accented characters, neither can you use the XHTML character entities, such as Ampersand+iacute;
Anyway, for those that don't know, or can't tell in /., The 'i' in Dali's name has an accent on it, which is important as it completely changes how you pronounce his name, Da-li, not Dah-lee, with the stress on the the 'li' rather than the 'Da'.
This seems very much like what Apple have done with Mac OS X. It's not a bad idea for end users, but a really bad idea for any UNIX people that have to administrate things. I would suggest though following more closely Apple's lead on this in that the standard system software sites in its normal locations (/etc, /usr, /bin, etc) and then user-level applications and files sit in new directories following a similar naming scheme to Gobo - /Users /Applications etc. I like in UNIX the /usr/local convention for additionally (non-system) installed software. Dunno, I don't think it's that complicated anyway at the moment, apart from a bit disorganised - telling someone that their files are in /home/username makes a lot of sense, binary things in /bin is cool, and that there's loads of other random stuff in /etc makes sense too. Don't know whether it's really needed in the end. Changing the root username is just plain daft really. Sorry! Lastly, being British, I would like a very customised with the programmes in /Programmes please.
I live and work in Spain and need to use Spanish characters everyday. I bought my laptop in Britain, so the keymap is British. I just switch between keymaps with option-apple-spacebar and don't pay any attention to what the keys read when type. It works fine. Same if I have to use a US keyboard, or any keymap. In short just learn a keymap that gives the characters you need and use it!
Sounds like a cool project, nice one!
Debian's a good bet as it installs with a very small footprint and you can work on a good custom build with just what you want. Once perfected, it's easy to get the packages list file of one machine and install packages on another from it. It's excellent for network installs and security updates, nice and stable, not cutting edge (which is good in this case), albeit a little more tricky to learn - but once you have, it, even dselect, is very easy to maintain.
Working in a community wireless project, I've installed builds of it on old recycled Pentiums on I find that either Blackbox, or even the old FVWM or OpenLook (still very good window managers) are the ones to go for, stay away from KDE and GNOME, they're monstrously big in both disc space and RAM terms.
I think the guys over at Computer Torture got there first with the World's First Wirelessly Connected Portaloo!
Ground for some legal action I think, the shit will hit the fan when they find out.....
Just a point on the durability of cantennae. Was involved in this wireless project posted to /. in the autumn and we used J&B Whiskey tins as cantennae. They were put up last June and are still up and working nearly a year later, with no signs of failure. They even survived one of the worst gales seen in the west of England for several years (100mph winds if I remember correctly!).
>This article is pretty pointless to focus on Apple.
/. ran one of these "Mod your Airport" .....
>Unforuntately clueless people will read it and assume that >in order to use wireless they'll have to drill and void their
>warranty. The fact is there are plenty of other products
>for which none of that is necessary.
Sorry you feel that way, it's true. I just happened to have one and what's nice about it is that because it's round with a flat bottom, you can stick a pigtail on it and have a nice solid N type coaxial connector on the top. The point is not whether there are plenty of other products available, it's what you can do with what you have.
>The first time
>articles however many years ago it was cool but the >wireless product landscape was very different then.
> This is a pointless /. story.
Thanks. Took a while to write it, it really did. I look forward to you writing something less pointless.
> 1. First of all, this 'airport', is really just > an RG1100 with a different cover. Sure, you can > connect antennas to it. But it's not a "MAC
> Only" think it's a "Windows thing" that just so > happens to have MAC OSX drivers. Google on
> rg1000 + linux/windows. You'll find several java > config tools. Moron.
Erm. Don't quite get you, where did all that come from? Yes there are tools for other platforms for it, but I have a sleak sexy PowerBook G4, so I don't need them, and it gets the girls.
> 2. Anyone who really has the title 'wireless
> network engineer' would know that building
> homebrew antennas just isn't worth the time.
> most of them end up sucking, and it's MUCH
> cheaper to just purchase one online.
Got money have you? Nah, it's more fun and more rewarding than just charging up the credit card once again. Also these 'homebrew' antennae work very well thank you very much, I am happy with them, certainly for this little 'experiment'. Though if of course someone has the cash for a pro job I'd buy lots of top price branded kit.
BTW. I am a 'wireless network engineer' and have used this kit on several occasions to do real jobs, it's cool, it's for temporary fixed installs, so a Zaraus won't do the trick. But I do a lot of community and free stuff, just for the crack and/or because it's a good cause, and there isn't the money for the pro kit, also the homebrew stuff tends to go down well with ordinary non-wireless network engineer types, they like it, I like it, it gets the girls.
> 3. Anyone who cared about the FCC regs wouldn't
> do this.
I don't. As you may have gathered, Barcelona is a city in SPAIN, not the UNITED STATES.
> 4. To do real LOS tests, you want antenna
> systems with known gain & radial patterns.
Erm, okay, whatever, I like the homebrew stuff.
> 5. You'll want kistmet, as some other posters
> highly under-rated posted.
Kismac, the version of this for Mac OS X is a bit flakey. Kismet didn't work very well, have several tools and plummed for Wavemon as it worked best. But yes, Kismet is pretty good.
it would have spotted Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody or Radiohead's Paranoid Anroid if it had been around when they were release?
The Compaq Portable Computer (their first laptop / luggable) had the 'computer behind the screen' and the keyboard folded up to cover it. Came out in 1982, so not quite unique. Alright, I know that's splitting hairs, but anyway, it was a beast this machine, at least in size, have used one and was involved in kind of owning one that became melted plastic in a forest fire unfortunately. Here's a page about it.
Ahem, V2000 was better than both of them :)
I saw the original of this episode years ago, I don't think many people have. There was a tape of it around (definitely not legal, nor official) of all the finished sequences with captions from the missing bits. It really was a good episode of Dr Who and showed Adams' talent when let loose on good subject matter. I think this is excellent, a great tribute to a great series and a great, and sadly missed, writer.
:).
Favourite episodes of Dr Who: War Games and all the Darlek ones of course
was that the episode with Bertie Bassett in it? even if it wasn't, be good to do this and loads of the many, many episodes again. There is just sooooo much material and soooo many good ideas. IMHO I've always though Dr Who a much more inventive and interesting series than Star Trek, maybe not the original Trek, but certainly DS9, Voyager and the latest one (Milkingitager is it called?). It really only suffed from the small budget that the BBC obviously had and eventually from Micahel Grade.
RIP!
I am English. We in the UK spell orientated, orientated, it is correct English. In the US it is spelt (or do you prefer spelled?) oriented, it is also correct English. If I were Spanish for example, I'd spell it orientado - notice the same number of syllables as the British spelling. Please don't have a go at my language, that is the language I speak and write and is the way it is.
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks for your comments. Yes, we only have 4 houses connected at the moment, this have proven that it works. If you have a look at the project web site, you'll see that we're making funding applications at the moment in order to install more nodes - it's a question of finance essentially. There are plans in the next month to put up several new nodes and to exetend the back-bone to cover a wider area. It is a coumminity oriented project and so anyone with the wherewithal to do so can put up a node now and get connected. If you are interest in being involved in the project, check out the web site and join the mailing list. BTW. We are and have been in discussion with the city council and are looking for funding there.
I totally agree with you. How on Earth does this deserve an article, let alone being posted on /.? Yes we had the same problem when we ran a solar and peddle powered internet cafe [plug] this summer with the titanium casing, the iBooks were loads less sensitive. But really, the thing comes with a PCMCIA slot, so it's hardly rocket science to go and buy a WiFi card no is it!? I use a slimline Buafflo WaveLAN cards, there are some drivers for it on the net somewhere, try Google, works very well, but don't eject it whilst the interface is being used unless you're in to seeing OS X crash!
Next we'll see articles on how connecting and external DVD-RAM drive via firewire, solves the problem of them not coming with TiBooks!
I lost patience with Redhat quite a while back, version 7.0 was terrible and finally put me off. Used to resell the stuff.
I use OS X.1.5 at the moment as my desktop with Fink, XDarwin, Mozilla, OpenOffice etc and it's truly wonderful, my first pleasant end-user computing experience since my old Atari ST 520FM. Dare I say it it can also run PowerPoint and Explorer, so I can open what clients send me and see things how they do. And the ability to print from any Cocao application to PDF is top!
And for servers, sod the desktop integration and all the unecessary stuff, just use Debian GNU/Linux 3.0, if only for the stability and apt-get et al.
That's my vote anyway, all credit to Redhat for continuing to improve their produce and it looks like this one is excellent and will be a winner with a lot of people.
I am devestated by the news that RARE nee Ultimate Play the Game nee Ashby Computer Graphics has been bought by the evil or all evils. This is terrible, have been a fan of theirs ever since JetPac on the ZX Spectrum (that was a Timex Sinclair 2000 or somethingorother in the USofA). Terrible, terrible, I'd just bought a Cube eagerly awaiting DK or Mario or Banjo and Kazooie or something like that to come out. Let's see if they do, but now I can't buy them as I'm swarn against the purchase of Microshaft products.
I've researched into this before, but I don't have any of the information sitting in front of me. As such I'll just drop that part of the argument.
;)
Am interested. For what reason did you research into this before?
Oh ok, just drop it then, okay by me, saves me the time and energy of coming up with any hard-facts myself - which I guess means that I will shit less and do my little bit for the environment, good old mother earth, bless her, but not for very much longer.
Can you post in the right place please, it get's very confusing, there's a lot of you on this thread.
Do you have any hard facts to suggest that I'm wrong?
Hang on a minute, surely you shouldn't go around making statements like that without being able to back them up. If you can produce hard facts to prove this, then I will happily bother to find some hard-facts to disprove them.
I don't have any to hand, but surely there is a awful lot of inefficiency in the process of manufacturing soybean oil in the first place and this includes the barrel or can or bottle or whatever it comes in, the nice label, the crates, the trucks (and possibly boats or planes) that you use to transport the oil to the hippie festival and also all the people required to grow it, process it, bottle it, crate it, ship it, drive the trucks, sell the stuff and they all then all produce quite a lot of shit too. Would be interesting to see what is the difference in shitting capacity for the production of enough soybean oil to run the laptop, compared to that of someone that peddles a bike, and they can also ride to the festival on that very same bike, which incidentally is one of our most efficient forms of transportation - unless of course you include horses and then you need lots of soybean oil again to strengthen them up - I'd go for quick release back wheels if I were you.
Preferably the genetically engineered kind, since that's a lot more efficiently grown.
erm for a start it's it's not that's . Anyway, fair comment, but can you explain to me how or rather what way or rather in who's opinion is is more efficiently grown?