One might well be justified in calling BSD the "Mr. Chips" of operating systems. In the final scene of the classic movie "Goodbye, Mr. Chips", a doctor remarks that it is a shame that the title character -- a masterful schoolteacher now on his death bed -- has never had children. Referring to the many youngsters whose lives he had helped to shape, Mr. Chips replies that he has indeed had children... thousands of them.
I'm not sure I get the analogy, but I *think* he just said *BSD is dying.;)
Yes, C is portable. Java is cross-platform. Difference, and not a subtle one either.
But as far cross platfor:
PHP, Python, Perl, heck they could just about write it in XUL! These are ALL cross-platform. From Macs, to Windows to *BSD to Linux.
I'm sorry, I'm just sick of the Java guys always saying "Why don't they just write it in Java!" as if Java were the only cross-platform language anyone would ever consider using.
You have to look at the requirements of the project before you can even begin to say that you could code it in Java, or C, or any language. Requirements drive the design. They drive the language choice. They drive the platform(s) used. They drive everything. You don't pick Java just 'cause it's "cool."
Ya know, Java is not the only cross-platform development language on the planet.
First off, believe it or not, ANSI C is pretty darned portable, especially across *nixes. Think how how many Linux code written in C ports easily to *BSD, Solaris, AIX, etc. It's not 100% cross-platform, but it's close enough for projects that need native compiled code.
Now, for a massive payroll system, which is basically a database, native compiled code isn't strictly necessary. It's a database, and probably needs a client/server architecture. Database lookups are the bottleneck, on the client, so you *could* do a lot of stuff. You could make it web based, for instance, and use Apache, PostgreSQL, and PHP or Perl for instance. If you want a gui, you could do Python/GTK, for instance. All of this stuff is cross-platform, Java isn't the ONLY solution.
MozillaQuest Magazine: How about GNU C++? Does GNU C++ use SCO IP? If so, could SCO license and/or charge for use of its IP in GNU C++?
Blake Stowell: I honestly don't know.
MozillaQuest Magazine: Does the C++ that currently is included in most if not all Linux distributions contain SCO IP?
Ummm...this guy's a droid.
First off, MozillaZine basically asked the same question twice, and he didn't blink an eye. "The C++ that currently is included in most, if not all Linux distributions" == "GNU C++". Same question.
And attacking GNU C++ would change the whole ballgame. FSF would now have a definite stake, and would probably have to countersue SCO.
"But SCO/Caldera distributed their own Linux! They violated the GPL!"
"Linux kernel hackers should sue SCO!"
"IBM is the 800lb. gorilla that will crush SCO!"
"Linux kernel hackers should sue SCO!"
"Failure to mitigate their own damages!"
"They haven't produced a single line of evidence!" "They haven't produced a single line of evidence!" "They haven't produced a single line of evidence!"
They seriously charged Dimitry with breaking ROT13 under the DMCA? This is not a joke? I always thought the people joking about breaking rot13 sigs and whatnot were kidding. Turns out its HHOS.
It costs nothing for me to not be killed by my neighbor.
That depends on what neighborhood you live in.;)
And don't confuse the cost of protecting rights with the cost of exercising them. I know that police, etc. costs money; that's a separate issue. Basic human rights are something we're born with, not something granted to us by a "benevolent, magnanimous" government.
Ultimately, I agree with you and it was the point I trying to make, albeit Socratically. The whole Socratic method doesn't translate well on Slashdot though.;)
If I pulled a miniature camera out of my..errm...ass.. in the bathroom, chances are it's going to be small enough that I can conceal it my hand as I went back to my desk, right? Even if they watch me at my desk, if I conceal my hand movements enough, I can take pics of the screen, right?
Or do they search you on the way back from the bathroom? What if I pick my ass while sitting at the desk? Will that create a stir? I mean, c'mon, how strict can they get, really?
was working last night fixing a blown disk system in my phone switch, and as I was returning from another cancer stick, I swiped my card to get in the exit door (which requires a swipe to exit as well). The first time I got the ACK to open the door, but I didn't and walked to look at something a few feet away. I swiped again and went back to work.
What surprised me is, why should it accept me swiping twice to get in? Shouldn't I be required to swipe "out" to get in? And what about the elevators? We have a bunch of floors and when I swipe in the elevator, I can hit multiple floors on the same swipe, enabling me to effectively "get lost" as far as where I went on the elevator.
This place was exactly the same way, actually. You had to swipe out, but you could get out without a swipe by simply reversing the path I laid out. Also, it was the same in terms of tracking whether you swiped in or out -- the doors didn't know the difference if you were already swiped in. In fact, I had "lost" my ID badge a few times, and accumulated about 3 ID badges at one point. They never deactivated the old ones. Had I wanted to, I could have provided the other two badges to two...ummm...colleagues.
The system was checked by security people. I confused the security people one time by bringing in two badges simulatenously. They couldn't figure out which building I was in. Quite amusing, actually. They never asked me about it either, they assumed it was a glitch in their system. (of course, each ID badge has a unique serial number, and if they'd had the brains to look it up (as the serial # gets logged), they would've known I had two badges. But they were clueless minimum wage morons, the kind of people you'll find working security in many of the most 'highly secured' facilities.
I never thought about it, but we must sound really funny to non-technically inclined people. "Yea, I picked up the Athlon 1800 XP, you know the one point five three three gig, and the dude was selling pc2100 for like 50 a stick of 512 so I figured what the hell, cause Galaxies was running choppy with my old 133 stuff and the 64 meg GeForce two I had."
I don't even understand people when they talk like that.
No prob. Translation: he picked up a 1.53 ghz AMD chip for a non-SMP mobo. The dealer was selling 266 FSB DDR for ~50 for a 512 DIMM, cause SWG was dropping frames on his old 133 FSB stuff. He already had the 64MB nVidia GeForce 2.
You'd be surprised at how easy it is to penetrate the security of a lot of facilities.
For instance, I worked in one somewhat secure facility that requires ID bages with magnetic stripes to get in and out.
Only thing is, they had one door to the facility that didn't have a card reader attached to it. It was for the union guys that worked in the shop, who according to contract, could not be required to swipe an ID badge.
Which is fine, because to get into any place but the shop you have to have a card swipe anyway.
Only thing is, the doors between the shop and the badge-secured office area were kept open more often than not. And even if they weren't there was one interior door that you could use to access the service tunnel that wasn't carded either.
So you could walk into the service tunnel. Once there, you could get into the badge-coded office area because the doors near the elevator that takes you to the office area had to be kept open for ADA compliance (a wheelchair user couldn't be expected to swipe their card and open the door, apparently)
So once in the elevator, you were free and clear. You just got in the building without a single card swipe. And though there are cameras, anyone walking around with anything that looked *close* to the visible badges around their neck/clipped to their lapel, etc. were ignored.
I simply observed my surroundings and in less than a day of working there, I knew how to get in and out of the facility without going through security. Even if I left my security pass at home, I could get in and out, no problem. I've noticed similar scenarios in hospitals or banks other places where tight security is supposed to be the rule but the people working there just don't think this stuff through.
Of course, unless they strip-search me, I can still sneak a miniature camera or something...all I gotta say is it's done the same way people get drugs on airplanes. In the name of decency, I won't say anymore than that -- use your imagination or use google.;)
Well, I don't rightly know. I imagine only the parts that are original, i.e., the text, but I am not a copyright attorney, so you're asking the wrong guy.;)
A translation is a derivative work under U.S. Copyright law and International treaties such as the Berne Convention.
The only way you can translate a work legally if you pay the original author for permission. You own the copyright on the translation (unless otherwise agreed to in the contract for the translation), but generally most contracts stipulate that you still have to pay the original author royalties on copies of the translation you sell, since the author still has copyright on the original, and the only thing that gave you the right to do the translation was to sign the contract.
The company I work for does government designing/building manufacturing fixtures for the Commanche helicopter. I wasn't required to get any clearances upon hiring in.
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One might well be justified in calling BSD the "Mr. Chips" of operating systems. In the final scene of the classic movie "Goodbye, Mr. Chips", a doctor remarks that it is a shame that the title character -- a masterful schoolteacher now on his death bed -- has never had children. Referring to the many youngsters whose lives he had helped to shape, Mr. Chips replies that he has indeed had children... thousands of them.
;)
I'm not sure I get the analogy, but I *think* he just said *BSD is dying.
Yes, C is portable. Java is cross-platform. Difference, and not a subtle one either.
But as far cross platfor:
PHP, Python, Perl, heck they could just about write it in XUL! These are ALL cross-platform. From Macs, to Windows to *BSD to Linux.
I'm sorry, I'm just sick of the Java guys always saying "Why don't they just write it in Java!" as if Java were the only cross-platform language anyone would ever consider using.
You have to look at the requirements of the project before you can even begin to say that you could code it in Java, or C, or any language. Requirements drive the design. They drive the language choice. They drive the platform(s) used. They drive everything. You don't pick Java just 'cause it's "cool."
They wouldnt be able to get away with desktops IMHO.
:-P
I dunno, man. this guy seems to think they can get away with Xboxes.
Ya know, Java is not the only cross-platform development language on the planet.
First off, believe it or not, ANSI C is pretty darned portable, especially across *nixes. Think how how many Linux code written in C ports easily to *BSD, Solaris, AIX, etc. It's not 100% cross-platform, but it's close enough for projects that need native compiled code.
Now, for a massive payroll system, which is basically a database, native compiled code isn't strictly necessary. It's a database, and probably needs a client/server architecture. Database lookups are the bottleneck, on the client, so you *could* do a lot of stuff. You could make it web based, for instance, and use Apache, PostgreSQL, and PHP or Perl for instance. If you want a gui, you could do Python/GTK, for instance. All of this stuff is cross-platform, Java isn't the ONLY solution.
MozillaQuest Magazine: How about GNU C++? Does GNU C++ use
SCO IP? If so, could SCO license and/or charge for use of its
IP in GNU C++?
Blake Stowell: I honestly don't know.
MozillaQuest Magazine: Does the C++ that currently is included
in most if not all Linux distributions contain SCO IP?
Ummm...this guy's a droid.
First off, MozillaZine basically asked the same question twice, and he didn't blink an eye. "The C++ that currently is included in most, if not all Linux distributions" == "GNU C++". Same question.
And attacking GNU C++ would change the whole ballgame. FSF would now have a definite stake, and would probably have to countersue SCO.
Personally, I have SCO story macros:
:)
"But SCO/Caldera distributed their own Linux! They violated the GPL!"
"Linux kernel hackers should sue SCO!"
"IBM is the 800lb. gorilla that will crush SCO!"
"Linux kernel hackers should sue SCO!"
"Failure to mitigate their own damages!"
"They haven't produced a single line of evidence!"
"They haven't produced a single line of evidence!"
"They haven't produced a single line of evidence!"
"Linux kernel hackers should sue SCO!"
"Failure to mitigate their own damages!"
See what I mean?
Over 10 years ago? Wow! I've been asleep for more than a year? I thought it was 2003. What happened? ;)
lmao
It isn't? Oh, right...it's a "preemptive strike". Sorry, Mr. Bush.
Seriously? You gotta link? Adobe products have been one of the cornerstones of software applications for the Mac for many years.
Wait.... I never caught this before...
rot13?
They seriously charged Dimitry with breaking ROT13 under the DMCA? This is not a joke? I always thought the people joking about breaking rot13 sigs and whatnot were kidding. Turns out its HHOS.
Damn. rot13 barely qualifies as encryption.
It costs nothing for me to not be killed by my neighbor.
;)
;)
That depends on what neighborhood you live in.
And don't confuse the cost of protecting rights with the cost of exercising them. I know that police, etc. costs money; that's a separate issue. Basic human rights are something we're born with, not something granted to us by a "benevolent, magnanimous" government.
Ultimately, I agree with you and it was the point I trying to make, albeit Socratically. The whole Socratic method doesn't translate well on Slashdot though.
I, for one, welcome our corporate overlords!
Hail the mighty Gates! Glory to Oppenheim! DISNEY IS MY GOD!!!
Oh wait...wrong movie...
Ummm...ok.... here goes.
If I pulled a miniature camera out of my..errm...ass.. in the bathroom, chances are it's going to be small enough that I can conceal it my hand as I went back to my desk, right? Even if they watch me at my desk, if I conceal my hand movements enough, I can take pics of the screen, right?
Or do they search you on the way back from the bathroom? What if I pick my ass while sitting at the desk? Will that create a stir? I mean, c'mon, how strict can they get, really?
was working last night fixing a blown disk system in my phone switch, and as I was returning from another cancer stick, I swiped my card to get in the exit door (which requires a swipe to exit as well). The first time I got the ACK to open the door, but I didn't and walked to look at something a few feet away. I swiped again and went back to work.
...ummm...colleagues.
What surprised me is, why should it accept me swiping twice to get in? Shouldn't I be required to swipe "out" to get in? And what about the elevators? We have a bunch of floors and when I swipe in the elevator, I can hit multiple floors on the same swipe, enabling me to effectively "get lost" as far as where I went on the elevator.
This place was exactly the same way, actually. You had to swipe out, but you could get out without a swipe by simply reversing the path I laid out. Also, it was the same in terms of tracking whether you swiped in or out -- the doors didn't know the difference if you were already swiped in. In fact, I had "lost" my ID badge a few times, and accumulated about 3 ID badges at one point. They never deactivated the old ones. Had I wanted to, I could have provided the other two badges to two
The system was checked by security people. I confused the security people one time by bringing in two badges simulatenously. They couldn't figure out which building I was in. Quite amusing, actually. They never asked me about it either, they assumed it was a glitch in their system. (of course, each ID badge has a unique serial number, and if they'd had the brains to look it up (as the serial # gets logged), they would've known I had two badges. But they were clueless minimum wage morons, the kind of people you'll find working security in many of the most 'highly secured' facilities.
We have a word for that: security through obscurity. STO is about as good as no security at all.
I don't even understand people when they talk like that.
No prob. Translation: he picked up a 1.53 ghz AMD chip for a non-SMP mobo. The dealer was selling 266 FSB DDR for ~50 for a 512 DIMM, cause SWG was dropping frames on his old 133 FSB stuff. He already had the 64MB nVidia GeForce 2.
Better?
You'd be surprised at how easy it is to penetrate the security of a lot of facilities.
For instance, I worked in one somewhat secure facility that requires ID bages with magnetic stripes to get in and out.
Only thing is, they had one door to the facility that didn't have a card reader attached to it. It was for the union guys that worked in the shop, who according to contract, could not be required to swipe an ID badge.
Which is fine, because to get into any place but the shop you have to have a card swipe anyway.
Only thing is, the doors between the shop and the badge-secured office area were kept open more often than not. And even if they weren't there was one interior door that you could use to access the service tunnel that wasn't carded either.
So you could walk into the service tunnel. Once there, you could get into the badge-coded office area because the doors near the elevator that takes you to the office area had to be kept open for ADA compliance (a wheelchair user couldn't be expected to swipe their card and open the door, apparently)
So once in the elevator, you were free and clear. You just got in the building without a single card swipe. And though there are cameras, anyone walking around with anything that looked *close* to the visible badges around their neck/clipped to their lapel, etc. were ignored.
I simply observed my surroundings and in less than a day of working there, I knew how to get in and out of the facility without going through security. Even if I left my security pass at home, I could get in and out, no problem. I've noticed similar scenarios in hospitals or banks other places where tight security is supposed to be the rule but the people working there just don't think this stuff through.
Of course, unless they strip-search me, I can still sneak a miniature camera or something...all I gotta say is it's done the same way people get drugs on airplanes. In the name of decency, I won't say anymore than that -- use your imagination or use google. ;)
Well, I don't rightly know. I imagine only the parts that are original, i.e., the text, but I am not a copyright attorney, so you're asking the wrong guy. ;)
Old-timer humour. You yunguns ain't been around long enough to get that. :) See Appendix A of the Jargon File for a reference.
At least he uses open source web browsers...
Maybe they should've changed the title to Harry Potter and the Order of the Mozilla FireBird(tm)?
A translation is a derivative work under U.S. Copyright law and International treaties such as the Berne Convention.
The only way you can translate a work legally if you pay the original author for permission. You own the copyright on the translation (unless otherwise agreed to in the contract for the translation), but generally most contracts stipulate that you still have to pay the original author royalties on copies of the translation you sell, since the author still has copyright on the original, and the only thing that gave you the right to do the translation was to sign the contract.
Make sense?
Sliders are a grand Detroit tradition. I don't know where White Castle would get off claiming they are the 'home of the slider'.
The company I work for does government designing/building manufacturing fixtures for the Commanche helicopter. I wasn't required to get any clearances upon hiring in.