I have been running KDE on Solaris since 1998. The new sun machines we currently received at our research lab all came with KDE and GNOME installed. You are given the choice at the graphical login.
It turned out that the answer is no; there is no cost savings, at least on my 36-month loan, if I had done so. I pay about $490 a month; a TDI
would have cost about $540 monthly. The extra $50 in monthly payments is about the same as what fuel costs, depending on how I drive and
what the fuel prices are.
Isn't that a bit short sighted? You'll save the $50 a month on the more efficent car also after the 36 month loan period. If you keep the car for 10 years, that makes a (10*12-36)*$50=$4200 difference! Not even mentioning the benefit to the environment.
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the odds that he'd screw up anything on the station are remote.
I guess we should let more tourist on Navy submarines as well. They could not possible do any harm there. Err... - ooops.
Oh no, it's starting again! They have 24 of our people locked in a movie theater, and they won't release until we apologize. Let's get over with this insanity! Will it never stop???
Ths scenario you outine is not very realistic.
The classic story of hobby web sites is: First it is free for all, then the guy who runs the show starts to whine about costs, and puts up advertising. Then, he makes loads of money. He even might sell the whole thing to, say, Andover or VA Linux.
If you look at bandwidth prices (e.g. $2.8/GB - not intended as advertising, might be cheaper elsewhere)
or prices for a web server (a few thousand dollars) - this can be easily financed by advertising, even if prices have collapsed to $.10/AdClick.
Don't worry, Slashdot is a very wealthy site. You only need more, if you want to profit from the site.
It's a different issue, of course, for sites such as the New York Times, who have to pay journalists and can't rely on trolls for their content.
Wir sind gewohnt, das die Menschen verhonen, was sie nicht verstehen. fix to - - - >
Wir sind gewöhnt, dass die Menschen verhöhnen, was sie nicht verstehen.
Again, you are forgetting something. If Nixon would have successfully contested Illionois in 1960, that would not have given him enough electoral colleges vote to overcome the 100-odd deficit there. It's really funny to see how Nixon is becoming the saint of electoral behaviour, after he resigned because he had thugs breaking into Democratic headquarters of the 1972 election.
Gore has a right to ask for manual recounts under Florda law
Gore offered recounts in all counties
Manual recounts also occurred in Republican counties
Of the recounts he wanted the only one was finished, two more where cut short due to time constraints (Yeah, we like democracy, but we really need to hurry to get Bush in office in January now).
The Democratic counties use older, more faulty machinery
In a stunning announcement today, CmdrTaco declared Bush the 43rd President of the United States. Shortcutting legal proceedings, he used his power as editor of Slashdot: "I was really getting sick of this, I rather talk about the cool features in the Linux kernel 2.4.0pre3784232 and the amazing new product XF-23 [order here]" Anonymous Coward agrees: "This politics stuff really gave me headaches. I don't care who runs the country, I just want my AOL. Oh no, they are evil, I don't know. Grits." Hemos ponders that "They should use the Slashdot approved meta-voting system to clear up disputes." This would entail that random self-selected people would storm Palm Beach County and toss out votes that they deem "not so pretty."
Since it is down to a few thousand votes, it might come down to this: The layout of the
ballot sheet confused voters in Palm Beach and many mistakenly voted for Buchanan.
Voters there are now planning to sue.
Here are the facts:
Buchanan received 16,962 votes statewide in
Tuesday's election, but 3,407 of that -- about one-fifth
-- came from Palm Beach County alone. By
comparison, Buchanan received 561 votes in
Miami-Dade and 789 in Broward County.
from the Miami Herald
A good picture (not just a diagram) can be found here.
Well, that link mentios nothing about Linux, it does say:
Q: Does this mean BeOS 5 Personal Edition runs "under" Windows? A: No. Although you can launch BeOS via a file within Windows, BeOS does not run as a Windows application. Double-clicking the file will exit Windows and boot BeOS from a large file in the FAT file system which contains within it a BFS volume.
I guess the setup for Linux is similar. It's not exactly for Linux though, is it?
A 40MB download for an OS release that is supposed to run on another OS ??? No link to what that is supposed to mean ??? This makes no sense, it is not even funny. Besides, it's April 2nd now...
Thanks for link to kuro5hin.org , first of all. It's good to see Slashdot getting some competition!
This idea of have voting on submission is really taking this discussion site idea to a new level. It would be great to see that on Slashdot in some form or another. The FAQ currently states on the issue:
Believe me when I say the submissions box isn't fit for mainstream consumption. We work really hard to keep a certain standard up on Slashdot, and I feel that opening up the submissions bin would be so prone to abuses, that it would make it much more difficult to maintain.
The point you are making is not very good. Whoever is voting on submissions is not a mainstream consumer. He knows that he has to put up with crap. Hey, when I have moderater access right now I got down to "-1", I see things I NEVER see, when I am at my usual "+2".
There are some valid points, why an intelligent editor might pick better stories than mass voting: He adds presonality and has an overall consistency that might get lost.
So here is the idea: Why not having a seperate SECTION with highly voted stories. Pick, say, every 6 hours the best 3 or what have you, and post them in the section no matter what. If the selection sometimes is lousy and "M$ ate my ballz" makes, so what. Let the visitors of the site decide if they want to see that section or not.
For now, I gonna head over to kuro5hin and check it out.
I was curious about this, so check some numbers last night from the official filings of Andover. Our good old friend CmdrTaco currently owns 111,111 Andover shares, and made a cool half a million from the Andover sale in cash payments alone. His profit from the Slashdot sale in total is probably around $10 million. Did he deserve that? Compared to the workers in Asia that assemble the machines on which this wonderful revolution is running on and get a buck per hour probably not. But compared to what he could have made, if he would have been really only after the money, it's probably meager.
The biggest shareholder of Andover is Bruce A. Twickler, the CEO who owns close to 2 million shares. He made $15 million from the cash payment of the sale alone. He must be a happy man.
And then there is the random invester who bought shares in Andover because it is such a cool Linux company. Well, the stock went downhill and he is the one who brought in the actual money that is passed out around here. The random VA Linux invester is in the same boat, that stock price is currently $118 from a $320 high.
Weeeeellll... since VA and Andover are both publicly held, their administration can't do anything that doesn't benefit the stockholders financially. If they *do* do that, they'll get their pants sued off, and lose their jobs.
I think that is a quite naive statement. The history of Andover so far is: They made a bunch of deals, went IPO, and hugely profitted from selling the company. It is not quite clear, if people who actually bought the shares profitted so far, since the stock price went downhill from the start, with a slight bump upwards from the sale to VA Linux.
The question, if something benefits the shareholder is quite murky. The article states the opinion that the Andover deal hurt VA Linux shareholders. VA Linux has a different view on this for sure. Assumed I am a VA Linux shareholder, I guess I have barely a chance to successfully sue VA Linux. IANAL, though.
I submitted this as a story, but it was rejected: An article in the New York Observer about dot.com rip-offs that is very harsh on the VA-Andover merger. Quote: "Prior to the I.P.O., [Andover] insiders had only paid a grand total of $15.7 million in cash into the company. Now they are being handed back $60 million as compensation. What a deal. As for investors in VA Linux, they are getting hosed."
I would be interested to see some opinions on that. I know this is off topic, but isn't the big argument against censorship: "Slashdot is the readers, not the VA corporate control".
Instead of linking to eiher Amazon or Fatbrain wouldn't it be better to link to sites such as AddAll or BestBookBuys. These sites are quite smart in finding out the cheapest prices from several bookstores (including Amazon and Fatbrain). They even take state tax and shipping into account. (Of course, they are not going to pay slashdot.andover for each book buy.)
And if you think about these sites, they are strong evidence, that Amazon will never be very proitable - the competition on the net is just too strong (on-topic again!).
The quote of the lady from the Hamburg office is not in relation to Windows 2000. And come on, let's get real: You don't seriously believe that anyone in the goverment would stop Microsoft from shipping Windows 2000 to Germany, are you?
The article quotes an official of the Catholic church, not a representative of the government. The word "Bann" in the headline has to be seen in this context: its a condemnation of the church. So to take this quote and speak of Windows 2000 going to be banned in Germany is quite a leap. So, don't believe everything Babelfish tells you and calm down, folks.
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Test, please ignore... coming back to Slashdot after 5 years...
I have been running KDE on Solaris since 1998. The new sun machines we currently received at our research lab all came with KDE and GNOME installed. You are given the choice at the graphical login.
Isn't that a bit short sighted? You'll save the $50 a month on the more efficent car also after the 36 month loan period. If you keep the car for 10 years, that makes a (10*12-36)*$50=$4200 difference! Not even mentioning the benefit to the environment.
I guess we should let more tourist on Navy submarines as well. They could not possible do any harm there. Err... - ooops.
Oh no, it's starting again! They have 24 of our people locked in a movie theater, and they won't release until we apologize. Let's get over with this insanity! Will it never stop???
I am really curious how they can be so sure that the rock is from Mars. Simply because it has the same chemical composition as Mars stones?
If you look at bandwidth prices (e.g. $2.8/GB - not intended as advertising, might be cheaper elsewhere) or prices for a web server (a few thousand dollars) - this can be easily financed by advertising, even if prices have collapsed to $.10/AdClick.
Don't worry, Slashdot is a very wealthy site. You only need more, if you want to profit from the site.
It's a different issue, of course, for sites such as the New York Times, who have to pay journalists and can't rely on trolls for their content.
Wir sind gewohnt, das die Menschen verhonen, was sie nicht verstehen.
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Wir sind gewöhnt, dass die Menschen verhöhnen, was sie nicht verstehen.
Obviously the deadline was not in favor of Gore.
Again, you are forgetting something. If Nixon would have successfully contested Illionois in 1960, that would not have given him enough electoral colleges vote to overcome the 100-odd deficit there. It's really funny to see how Nixon is becoming the saint of electoral behaviour, after he resigned because he had thugs breaking into Democratic headquarters of the 1972 election.
In a stunning announcement today, CmdrTaco declared Bush the 43rd President of the United States. Shortcutting legal proceedings, he used his power as editor of Slashdot: "I was really getting sick of this, I rather talk about the cool features in the Linux kernel 2.4.0pre3784232 and the amazing new product XF-23 [order here]" Anonymous Coward agrees: "This politics stuff really gave me headaches. I don't care who runs the country, I just want my AOL. Oh no, they are evil, I don't know. Grits." Hemos ponders that "They should use the Slashdot approved meta-voting system to clear up disputes." This would entail that random self-selected people would storm Palm Beach County and toss out votes that they deem "not so pretty."
Here are the facts:
A good picture (not just a diagram) can be found here.
Q: Does this mean BeOS 5 Personal Edition runs "under" Windows?
A: No. Although you can launch BeOS via a file within Windows, BeOS does not run as a Windows application. Double-clicking the file will exit Windows and boot BeOS from a large file in the FAT file system which contains within it a BFS volume.
I guess the setup for Linux is similar. It's not exactly for Linux though, is it?
A 40MB download for an OS release that is supposed to run on another OS ??? No link to what that is supposed to mean ??? This makes no sense, it is not even funny. Besides, it's April 2nd now...
I read somewhere that they are trying to get a bunch of Canadian celebrities to sing the song...
This idea of have voting on submission is really taking this discussion site idea to a new level. It would be great to see that on Slashdot in some form or another. The FAQ currently states on the issue:
Believe me when I say the submissions box isn't fit for mainstream consumption. We work really hard to keep a certain standard up on Slashdot, and I feel that opening up the submissions bin would be so prone to abuses, that it would make it much more difficult to maintain.
The point you are making is not very good. Whoever is voting on submissions is not a mainstream consumer. He knows that he has to put up with crap. Hey, when I have moderater access right now I got down to "-1", I see things I NEVER see, when I am at my usual "+2".
There are some valid points, why an intelligent editor might pick better stories than mass voting: He adds presonality and has an overall consistency that might get lost.
So here is the idea: Why not having a seperate SECTION with highly voted stories. Pick, say, every 6 hours the best 3 or what have you, and post them in the section no matter what. If the selection sometimes is lousy and "M$ ate my ballz" makes, so what. Let the visitors of the site decide if they want to see that section or not.
For now, I gonna head over to kuro5hin and check it out.
The biggest shareholder of Andover is Bruce A. Twickler, the CEO who owns close to 2 million shares. He made $15 million from the cash payment of the sale alone. He must be a happy man.
And then there is the random invester who bought shares in Andover because it is such a cool Linux company. Well, the stock went downhill and he is the one who brought in the actual money that is passed out around here. The random VA Linux invester is in the same boat, that stock price is currently $118 from a $320 high.
I think that is a quite naive statement. The history of Andover so far is: They made a bunch of deals, went IPO, and hugely profitted from selling the company. It is not quite clear, if people who actually bought the shares profitted so far, since the stock price went downhill from the start, with a slight bump upwards from the sale to VA Linux.
The question, if something benefits the shareholder is quite murky. The article states the opinion that the Andover deal hurt VA Linux shareholders. VA Linux has a different view on this for sure. Assumed I am a VA Linux shareholder, I guess I have barely a chance to successfully sue VA Linux. IANAL, though.
I would be interested to see some opinions on that. I know this is off topic, but isn't the big argument against censorship: "Slashdot is the readers, not the VA corporate control".
And if you think about these sites, they are strong evidence, that Amazon will never be very proitable - the competition on the net is just too strong (on-topic again!).
The quote of the lady from the Hamburg office is not in relation to Windows 2000. And come on, let's get real: You don't seriously believe that anyone in the goverment would stop Microsoft from shipping Windows 2000 to Germany, are you?
The article quotes an official of the Catholic church, not a representative of the government. The word "Bann" in the headline has to be seen in this context: its a condemnation of the church. So to take this quote and speak of Windows 2000 going to be banned in Germany is quite a leap. So, don't believe everything Babelfish tells you and calm down, folks.
so, let's rather dicuss the consequences of time travel again: what if i travel back in time and patent the internet?
PHP Hypertext Preprocessor (it's recursive). It used to stand for "Personal Homepage", but it outgrew its original use, so they hold a competition for renaming the thing.