Well, within a group of sad old adults, that own houses and have to spend money to fix the house they own. It is acceptable to ask these sad questions.
When you are going to pay 10,000.00 GBP = 15,825.27 USD for a new roof.. Trust me, you'll ask around to see who knows someone and find out how good they are first. Good luck with trusting some cowboy you found on line with a nice website and no recommendation. I'm in the middle of a house renovation and most of the people i've asked to do work have done work for someone I spoke to first. I talk to these people on facebook and in the pub. I don't go looking for trades directly, I ask people I'm friends with (or the other 300+) I've just met once doing meatspace related things, if they've used anyone before for a certain job before and would they recommend them?. Your not buying that? Do you not believe in any word of mouth at all?
Could be a writing issue:)
Maybe what you wrote isn't saying what you think people are reading it meant.
Fine. I'll agree when you limit a PC to the point that it can only be used like a console, then yes, within your limitations a console is the same as a PC. Apart from a PCs requirements for - say: Bloody OS issues, drivers, firewalls, virus software and 101 other things that makes a PC nothing like a console even when they are both sat there.
I had to break out of your point, as it had nothing to do with the real world. My PC does much more than my console and isn't limited by the point you want to get over. There is material difference between the DRMs. The difference being one is installed on a dumb toaster console, that I don't care for and the other is DRM that fucks my machine up. its a bit more than a "material" limitation.
When DRM breaks a console it is the companies fault and problem. When DRM fucks a PC up it's the users problem. These are two very different things. But saying they are the same doesn't make it so.
DRM and user tracking, no matter what system it is done on SUCKS. end of.
People like plumbers and builders tend not to have good IT skills or they got a bundle with the host website which is crap. So google would have been no help anyway. FB does do this type of thing better. Some type of trade you only want to use if another person has used them before.
I do hold them to different standards as they are are not the same things.
One is a games console that is locked down to play only games sold for it. The other is my PC. I don't do my banking via a console and when a console breaks it doesn't stop you doing 101 other things. Some of them productive! The car analogy land - a console is a mini metro, it gets from A to B and works for people who can't be arsed with cars. And the PC is a monster truck or an extremely excessive Ferrari F40. They all have wheels and an engine; but you don't have the same expectations of them. Plus you wouldn't be to happy if when you put some luggage(games) in the boot/trunk They locked the engine up becuase you had some unexpected stuff in the glove box.
Starforce was evil wasn't it. It broke my monster truck Ferrari! I like having a stupidly huge tower with multiple CD drives. DRM software locking things up when it detects bit it doesn't like should be marked out on the box and not installed secretly. In 10 years time when all the DRM serves have changed, people will not be able to go back and place old stuff - which is a shame. I'll bet I'll be able to play Morrowind; but can't play Skyrim.
I don't agree with 90 percent effective being good enough when I've spent money. (to ASSume 90%=working game Vs 10% not able to run,) In a billion dollar industry 10% is a lot of people locked out of stuff they own. It's a sorry state these days.
It's a shame it came to this and I when from spending a fortune on games to 0. Skyrim was a gift (and not full price either) It will be the only game I bother with for some time I think.
I don't mind DRM on the console. It doesn't really hold any data I care about. Save games maybe but its not the end the world. I wont buy downloaded content as I don't really "own" it. DRM on my PC however is a problem. Steam for halflife 2 and Skyrim have been the only titles to make me suffer it. I don't like it and I bugs me a lot. Soon as I'm don't with Skyrim its off.
But what a selling point. There is no TV content for 4k&8k but games can be made to output that standard now. I'd love to play games with that level of detail. A flight sim would look wonderful. Don't forget that a great number of hardcore gamers are 30+ with a half decent job and the 50+ need a midlife crisis spend to make them happy.Let do this!
Is it not possible to code for the day one version 1 of the console specs and either take advantage of any new feature with a patch - OR, and this is a way I see it working. New hardware must maintain backwards compatibly, so nothing is broken. Devs do not have to spend money on support and new games and use a new the new features; but they must work on the day one version 1 too.
As this isn't a PC level of diversity you would only be supporting 1 generation of CPU or GPU upgrade? If the console road mapped out an upgrade to existing hardware in 5 years, developers could factor some expectations in.
The never play any better. The mouse movment in the Skyrim menus is awful. Luckily my mouse lets me adjust dpi rate and I'm sure there a mod to fix it. Still the ports always use a console UI and control which isn't a good as a made the PC experience. other ports have been forgotten about as fast as possible.
1) reduce electrical demands
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A lot of piracy on mp3s and films wasn't about price. It was about distribution, DRM and convenience in the modern age. People wanted to hear tracks there and then and services like napster grew to meet that demand. The software was easy and worked well. If a music company invested in a digital distribution system in the 90s and monetised it, then they would be the biggest player today. BUT Instead of helping the consumer spend money they punished them. Adding layers of DRM inconvenience-ware, giving a worse experience to those who paid. Still, it is stupid for a company to expect the same amount for a CD with packaging and a downloaded file. I know servers cost money too.. but come on!
I never said there was an option. I said they should.And if you read all of the above threads you'll get the point.It not the point you think you read.
"Ohhh this company might profit if people stole there software and used it, therefore I'll steal their software."
The point others and myself were making was - a lot of people use software they couldn't possible afford at the start of their career. When they get the skills, a company can hire them. The company buys the huge licence. For a software company you want your software to be the skill set the industry is most familiar with. You can lock everyone into your brand by making sure everyone knows how to use your software productively. If you software costs 10k then you have to make it available to those who are learning.
I use adobe products at work and we have all the big boy boy licences. The guy before me used Gimp and text pad. When I took over the job they bought suit for Photoshop and Dreamweaver etc. It wasn't a huge cost for the company and they wanted the job done. The Manager didn't care - just wanted website to be shinyshinyshiny. Adobe made their profit from me. If I learnt Gimp (i tried) and had the time up upgrade crap html using textpad adobe would be out of the picture. My only regret it using Dreamweaver so much it makes you lazy; but its faster - don't look at the code!
I very miss spoke here. -- Instead of -- Have people sign up to download the crippled training copy. They should be giving the software away with decent documentation and training.
Same with 3D products. They can't count any kid using a pirate copy as a lost sale. The sale is impossible. They should mark it as training to potential sale. Have people sign up to download the crippled training copy They should be giving the software away with decent documentation and training. I know you can get student copies; but the price can still be a months worth of food.
I see Lighwave3D 10 costs £150 for the student copy. I'd buy and have it sat on the shelf never used at that price. No spare hobby time these days!
Digital Media Piracy is a big problem as it's being used as a political tool to make laws that fuck people over the world over. Companies that make games really fucked their generation over. Blizzard you are the Skynet for freedom. I give up copyright content - take it and fuckoff... stuff like that...
+1mod of that's a good way of putting it.
This is the good side of it. Please go one step more.
If they don't like it. Tell them it for protection against terrorist or paedophiles. They must want protection against those.
If they have a relative outside the USA. Get cousin Julian extradited. He didn't break the law in his own land - It doesn't matter.
In TFA its says the FBI took several backups. Someone should send the FBI a DMCA request and see what happens. That someone wouldn't be me as I don't have any copyright work, or I would - honest.
Previously known as Kim Schmitz, Dotcom, was arrested at his luxury New Zealand mansion on 20 January; he was found locked in a panic room which contained a gun cabinet.
That's were you want the gun cabinet to be. Who designs a panic room with guns on the outside? The zombies could learn to use them?
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I'm was thinking about setting up the same thing with a PS3 one. But I spent a stupid amount on a R.A.T mouse. So i really have to use it :)
Well, within a group of sad old adults, that own houses and have to spend money to fix the house they own. It is acceptable to ask these sad questions. .. Trust me, you'll ask around to see who knows someone and find out how good they are first. Good luck with trusting some cowboy you found on line with a nice website and no recommendation.
When you are going to pay 10,000.00 GBP = 15,825.27 USD for a new roof
I'm in the middle of a house renovation and most of the people i've asked to do work have done work for someone I spoke to first. I talk to these people on facebook and in the pub.
I don't go looking for trades directly, I ask people I'm friends with (or the other 300+) I've just met once doing meatspace related things, if they've used anyone before for a certain job before and would they recommend them?.
Your not buying that? Do you not believe in any word of mouth at all?
Maybe what you wrote isn't saying what you think people are reading it meant.
Fine. I'll agree when you limit a PC to the point that it can only be used like a console, then yes, within your limitations a console is the same as a PC. Apart from a PCs requirements for - say: Bloody OS issues, drivers, firewalls, virus software and 101 other things that makes a PC nothing like a console even when they are both sat there.
I had to break out of your point, as it had nothing to do with the real world. My PC does much more than my console and isn't limited by the point you want to get over. There is material difference between the DRMs. The difference being one is installed on a dumb toaster console, that I don't care for and the other is DRM that fucks my machine up. its a bit more than a "material" limitation.
When DRM breaks a console it is the companies fault and problem. When DRM fucks a PC up it's the users problem. These are two very different things. But saying they are the same doesn't make it so.
DRM and user tracking, no matter what system it is done on SUCKS. end of.
People like plumbers and builders tend not to have good IT skills or they got a bundle with the host website which is crap. So google would have been no help anyway. FB does do this type of thing better. Some type of trade you only want to use if another person has used them before.
I do hold them to different standards as they are are not the same things. One is a games console that is locked down to play only games sold for it. The other is my PC. I don't do my banking via a console and when a console breaks it doesn't stop you doing 101 other things. Some of them productive! The car analogy land - a console is a mini metro, it gets from A to B and works for people who can't be arsed with cars. And the PC is a monster truck or an extremely excessive Ferrari F40. They all have wheels and an engine; but you don't have the same expectations of them. Plus you wouldn't be to happy if when you put some luggage(games) in the boot/trunk They locked the engine up becuase you had some unexpected stuff in the glove box.
Starforce was evil wasn't it. It broke my monster truck Ferrari! I like having a stupidly huge tower with multiple CD drives. DRM software locking things up when it detects bit it doesn't like should be marked out on the box and not installed secretly. In 10 years time when all the DRM serves have changed, people will not be able to go back and place old stuff - which is a shame. I'll bet I'll be able to play Morrowind; but can't play Skyrim.
I don't agree with 90 percent effective being good enough when I've spent money. (to ASSume 90%=working game Vs 10% not able to run,) In a billion dollar industry 10% is a lot of people locked out of stuff they own. It's a sorry state these days. It's a shame it came to this and I when from spending a fortune on games to 0. Skyrim was a gift (and not full price either) It will be the only game I bother with for some time I think.
Best point I've read against it so far.
I've got 3.5" :( Mind you, a lot of girls don't like it that thick. - Ba-dum-bum-CHING.
I don't mind DRM on the console. It doesn't really hold any data I care about. Save games maybe but its not the end the world. I wont buy downloaded content as I don't really "own" it. DRM on my PC however is a problem. Steam for halflife 2 and Skyrim have been the only titles to make me suffer it. I don't like it and I bugs me a lot. Soon as I'm don't with Skyrim its off.
But what a selling point. There is no TV content for 4k&8k but games can be made to output that standard now. I'd love to play games with that level of detail. A flight sim would look wonderful. Don't forget that a great number of hardcore gamers are 30+ with a half decent job and the 50+ need a midlife crisis spend to make them happy.Let do this!
Is it not possible to code for the day one version 1 of the console specs and either take advantage of any new feature with a patch - OR, and this is a way I see it working. New hardware must maintain backwards compatibly, so nothing is broken. Devs do not have to spend money on support and new games and use a new the new features; but they must work on the day one version 1 too. As this isn't a PC level of diversity you would only be supporting 1 generation of CPU or GPU upgrade? If the console road mapped out an upgrade to existing hardware in 5 years, developers could factor some expectations in.
The never play any better. The mouse movment in the Skyrim menus is awful. Luckily my mouse lets me adjust dpi rate and I'm sure there a mod to fix it. Still the ports always use a console UI and control which isn't a good as a made the PC experience. other ports have been forgotten about as fast as possible.
They'll just take it as a crap judge or needing a better lawyer. I don't think they'll go away with any sort of sanity.
For his own stuff???? Yeah, your right they would wouldn't they. *looks at shoes.
So do expensive ones. Demand the best!
1) reduce electrical demands 2) use more land 3) ...
A lot of piracy on mp3s and films wasn't about price. It was about distribution, DRM and convenience in the modern age. People wanted to hear tracks there and then and services like napster grew to meet that demand. The software was easy and worked well. If a music company invested in a digital distribution system in the 90s and monetised it, then they would be the biggest player today. BUT Instead of helping the consumer spend money they punished them. Adding layers of DRM inconvenience-ware, giving a worse experience to those who paid.
Still, it is stupid for a company to expect the same amount for a CD with packaging and a downloaded file. I know servers cost money too.. but come on!
"Ohhh this company might profit if people stole there software and used it, therefore I'll steal their software."
The point others and myself were making was - a lot of people use software they couldn't possible afford at the start of their career. When they get the skills, a company can hire them. The company buys the huge licence. For a software company you want your software to be the skill set the industry is most familiar with. You can lock everyone into your brand by making sure everyone knows how to use your software productively. If you software costs 10k then you have to make it available to those who are learning.
I use adobe products at work and we have all the big boy boy licences. The guy before me used Gimp and text pad. When I took over the job they bought suit for Photoshop and Dreamweaver etc. It wasn't a huge cost for the company and they wanted the job done. The Manager didn't care - just wanted website to be shinyshinyshiny. Adobe made their profit from me. If I learnt Gimp (i tried) and had the time up upgrade crap html using textpad adobe would be out of the picture. My only regret it using Dreamweaver so much it makes you lazy; but its faster - don't look at the code!
I very miss spoke here. -- Instead of -- Have people sign up to download the crippled training copy. They should be giving the software away with decent documentation and training.
Same with 3D products. They can't count any kid using a pirate copy as a lost sale. The sale is impossible. They should mark it as training to potential sale. Have people sign up to download the crippled training copy They should be giving the software away with decent documentation and training. I know you can get student copies; but the price can still be a months worth of food. I see Lighwave3D 10 costs £150 for the student copy. I'd buy and have it sat on the shelf never used at that price. No spare hobby time these days!
Digital Media Piracy is a big problem as it's being used as a political tool to make laws that fuck people over the world over.
Companies that make games really fucked their generation over. Blizzard you are the Skynet for freedom.
I give up copyright content - take it and fuckoff... stuff like that...
+1mod of that's a good way of putting it.
This is the good side of it. Please go one step more.
If they don't like it. Tell them it for protection against terrorist or paedophiles. They must want protection against those.
If they have a relative outside the USA. Get cousin Julian extradited. He didn't break the law in his own land - It doesn't matter.
A judge.
Better ideas require extraordinary balls. - Carl Sagan. I'm sure he said that.
In TFA its says the FBI took several backups. Someone should send the FBI a DMCA request and see what happens. That someone wouldn't be me as I don't have any copyright work, or I would - honest.
Previously known as Kim Schmitz, Dotcom, was arrested at his luxury New Zealand mansion on 20 January; he was found locked in a panic room which contained a gun cabinet.
That's were you want the gun cabinet to be. Who designs a panic room with guns on the outside? The zombies could learn to use them?