Companies like Dell don't harvest addressess. They deal with direct marketing companies who either do the harvesting, or who buy large lists from email addressess from companies who swear up and down that they lists contain only people who asked to recieve information about this sort of thing (whatever this sort of thing may be).
Perhaps you'd like to check your definition of DOS. Even strictly defined, ie. looking only at the accronym. DOS stands for, as I'm sure you're aware, Denial Of Service. Well, if my X server crashes becuase Rob and crew decide they was 166666 point fonts, then I most certainly have service being denied. And it is most certainly being launched as the placement of that font tag is actively placed in the html or css code.
a better definition can be found here (I'm there are others, but this was the first one I came across from google).
On the Internet, a denial of service (DoS) attack is an incident in which a user or organization is deprived of the services of a resource they would normally expect to have.
Again, I'm being deprived of resources that I would otherwise expect to have access to. any questions?
MS added some extra switches to their c++ compiler which was supposed to weed out certain buffer overflows but there were apparently some problems with it. You can read about it here on securityfocus.
I run junkbuster as my proxy server, and it has the neat feature of setting the User-Agent string. I've encountered a few sites that falsely claim to not support my browser (and would I please upgrade to something on a windows machine..), so I've taken to changing my ua string to "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)".
no complaints yet, except hotmail freaks out and displays a 2 inch textarea for message editing.
God damn do they have an annoying site! has anyone visited it?
I always cringe when, in movies, they show someone at a computer. inenvitably, the computer beeps, whines, or makes some sort audible response at the slightest keystroke or button press. I sometimes explain to the geek friends that i'm watching with how f*cking annoying it would be if computers actually did this, i'm sure it's something everyone here as thought about at least once. (as an aside, a friend of mine once went so far as to create a new term for those operating systems; MOS, or Movie Operating system) anyway, their site is like a web based version of mos.
I Just put my mouse over the damn menu, and I know i did that because you're wasting my cpu with this crappy flash animations, I DON'T MY COMPUTER TO BEEP AS WELL!
*beep* *beep* *beep*
i haven't noticed so much damage recently, mainly because I really don't like shipping with ups, but christ all mighty, it's as though ups doesn't hire people who can read. I'd have to think for a few minutes to actually come up with a package that they didn't screw up. all sorts of problems, from them not delivering to house (at least no note on my mailbox or front door) and reporting to the website that they skipped me b/c I wasn't home (i was, I was unemployed, where the hell would I be?), to them essentially scratching off the label of a box they nearly turned into a cylinder and then obviously not knowing who to take it to. I also had a mother board coming from louisianna sit in the santa cruz distribution for about a week before it finally made it onto a truck, after taking only three days to make it across the country. sooooo iritating when you're waiting for this critical part so you can use your computer.
at this point, I usually just ask if people can ship it usps rather than ups as they tend to be faster (figure that one out) and infinately more reliable.
I've got some friends that have had the opposite experience of mine. I just don't get it. it's like they have a database of people that they just don't care about (and people that they do) and then they use that information to find out which packages they should purposely screw up.
the lines they should have counted...
on
Kernel Benchmarks
·
· Score: 1
here's how they counted the lines in the kernel.
We counted lines of code in all files that: ended in ".c" or ".h"
were in one of the following directories:
arch drivers fs include init ipc kernel lib mm net
when it really should have just been something like.
(root@mustard)-(/dev/tty0)-(/usr/src/linux)
(Wed May 9)-(05:53pm) 19 # find . -name *.[ch] -exec egrep "< some terrible curse words >" {} \; -print | wc -l
that dubya's scared of email and his successor is off beaming holographic images of himself around the state? I'm not really sure why, but it just sorta strikes me as amusing...
I remember, back when I was a kid, walking through the video store and looking at the covers of all the cool movies I wanted to watch.
There was one in particular that stands out.
It was called "The Exterminator". The cover had this arnold schwarzeneger looking guy in fatigues with this huge flame thrower, trying to blow torch the camera taking his picture.
I used to look at that picture and think, "damn, that guy must be trying to start a flame war."
I get the same feeling when taco posts stories like this.
hmm... this makes me wonder if it was a good idea to compress my home directory with this thing...
(peter@mustard)-(/dev/tty1)-(~/lzip)
(Sat Mar 31)-(10:23pm) 13 > strings./lunzip
Goldfinger.
He's the man, the man with the midas touch.
A spider's touch.
Such a cold finger.
Beckons you to enter his web of sin
But don't go in.
Golden words he will pour in your ear,
But his lies can't disguise what you fear,
For a golden girl knows when he's kissed her,
It's the kiss of death from
Mister Goldfinger.
Pretty girl beware of this heart of gold
This heart is cold.
Golden words he will pour in your ear,
But his lies can't disguise what you fear,
For a golden girl knows when he's kissed her,
It's the kiss of death from
Mister Goldfinger.
Pretty girl beware of this heart of gold
This heart is cold.
He loves only gold,
Only gold.
He loves gold.
He loves only gold,
Only gold.
He loves gold.
(peter@mustard)-(/dev/tty1)-(~/lzip)
(Sat Mar 31)-(10:23pm) 14 >
please do not send this one on. it's a dumb question. it will get the canned response.
we have a great opportunity here to ask real questions...let's not waste that with this kind of drivvel.
my first thought was of the invention of the babel fish:
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed at the next zebra crossing.
gotta say, this hole really reminds of a message that was recently forwarded to bugtraq.
(taco, your lameness filter sucks)
SERIOUS VULNERABILTY AFFECTS ALL VERSIONS OF UNIX AND WINDOWS
A serious vulnerability has been found in all versions of
Unix and Windows. This problem most likely affects all
other systems as well.
It has been found that computer systems must be physically moved
prior to installation at a computing facility. Moreover,
when these systems are transported, they are usually moved
at some point by human beings.
Obvious insecurity Inc. has found that a serious DOS attack
can be waged on these systems when attackers stand on top of a building
high above the area where a system is being moved at the proper
time interval.
The attackers toolkit consists of a long range flamethrower,
a large sledgehammer, and concussion grenades. If the attacker
has perfect timing, they may drop the sledgehammer/light the
flamethrower/drop the grenade onto the target system in
question, thereby creating a DOS condition.
This scenario can be spread easily through a coordinated
attack, but this has yet to be seen in the wild.
Vendors have been notified 1.5 minutes ago, but have so
far proven that they are incompetent by not releasing
patches or sending a reply to our email. Therfore, in
the interests of full disclosure, we are making these
shocking results public, since YOU have a right to know.
This earth shaking, trend setting vulnerability has been
discovered by Obvious Security Inc. We hope to overwhelm
bugtraq and the other lists with our skills so we can
make more money and have more prestige in the computer
security industry.
Remember - "Just because it's right in your face, does
not mean that it's obvious".
or something like that.
the way I see it, the school district was trying to keep parents from having to answer the questions:
"mommy, what's racism?"
and
"daddy, what's 'racial prejudice'?"
my first inclination is to say that they aren't giving the parents enough credit. These are obviously very important issues, things that need to be discussed with absolutely everyone. It's also a difficult topic for parents to broach. If a child asks you a question such as this (especially becuase of a science fair project), then the project was a *huge* success. It makes *no* sense that such a project would be removed when it's looked at in this light.
Then I fall back into my comfortable little shell of denial and say that the government should be doing more children. Racism and violence are the products of tv/movies, and video games.
how much you would give me for my sanity.
the first thing that goes when the next big virus hits my company is my sanity.
this is because multiple messages are sent to all saying
"the message with as a subject line is a virus, don't open it. get your virus update here"
and then you see 10 messages right after it with the afore mentioned subject.
I don't know why these people have an email account anyway, they can't f*cking read.
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Companies like Dell don't harvest addressess. They deal with direct marketing companies who either do the harvesting, or who buy large lists from email addressess from companies who swear up and down that they lists contain only people who asked to recieve information about this sort of thing (whatever this sort of thing may be).
Perhaps you'd like to check your definition of DOS.
Even strictly defined, ie. looking only at the accronym. DOS stands for, as I'm sure you're aware, Denial Of Service. Well, if my X server crashes becuase Rob and crew decide they was 166666 point fonts, then I most certainly have service being denied.
And it is most certainly being launched as the placement of that font tag is actively placed in the html or css code.
a better definition can be found here (I'm there are others, but this was the first one I came across from google).
On the Internet, a denial of service (DoS) attack is an incident in which a user or organization is deprived of the services of a resource they would normally expect to have.
Again, I'm being deprived of resources that I would otherwise expect to have access to.
any questions?
MS added some extra switches to their c++ compiler which was supposed to weed out certain buffer overflows but there were apparently some problems with it. You can read about it here on securityfocus.
I let my account lapse (on monday no less) becuase they had gone 4 months (!!) with out releasing squat.
If it's as good as it's supposed to be, I might renew the account for a while.
I run junkbuster as my proxy server, and it has the neat feature of setting the User-Agent string. I've encountered a few sites that falsely claim to not support my browser (and would I please upgrade to something on a windows machine..), so I've taken to changing my ua string to "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)".
no complaints yet, except hotmail freaks out and displays a 2 inch textarea for message editing.
http://www.themes.org/skins/mozilla is the best place that I've found to get skins for mozilla.
it takes a while to load, so be patient.
God damn do they have an annoying site! has anyone visited it?
I always cringe when, in movies, they show someone at a computer. inenvitably, the computer beeps, whines, or makes some sort audible response at the slightest keystroke or button press. I sometimes explain to the geek friends that i'm watching with how f*cking annoying it would be if computers actually did this, i'm sure it's something everyone here as thought about at least once. (as an aside, a friend of mine once went so far as to create a new term for those operating systems; MOS, or Movie Operating system) anyway, their site is like a web based version of mos.
I Just put my mouse over the damn menu, and I know i did that because you're wasting my cpu with this crappy flash animations, I DON'T MY COMPUTER TO BEEP AS WELL!
*beep* *beep* *beep*
hahaha.
she probably beat you down after catching you preview that comment, and then added the "lovely" before every mention of wife, right?
i haven't noticed so much damage recently, mainly because I really don't like shipping with ups, but christ all mighty, it's as though ups doesn't hire people who can read. I'd have to think for a few minutes to actually come up with a package that they didn't screw up. all sorts of problems, from them not delivering to house (at least no note on my mailbox or front door) and reporting to the website that they skipped me b/c I wasn't home (i was, I was unemployed, where the hell would I be?), to them essentially scratching off the label of a box they nearly turned into a cylinder and then obviously not knowing who to take it to. I also had a mother board coming from louisianna sit in the santa cruz distribution for about a week before it finally made it onto a truck, after taking only three days to make it across the country. sooooo iritating when you're waiting for this critical part so you can use your computer.
at this point, I usually just ask if people can ship it usps rather than ups as they tend to be faster (figure that one out) and infinately more reliable.
I've got some friends that have had the opposite experience of mine. I just don't get it. it's like they have a database of people that they just don't care about (and people that they do) and then they use that information to find out which packages they should purposely screw up.
when it really should have just been something like.
(root@mustard)-(/dev/tty0)-(/usr/src/linux)
(Wed May 9)-(05:53pm) 19 # find . -name *.[ch] -exec egrep "< some terrible curse words >" {} \; -print | wc -l
yeah, that would'a worked.
i think the point is that it *was* labled as satire, and that mastercard *doesn't* have a "pot to piss in".
that dubya's scared of email and his successor is off beaming holographic images of himself around the state? I'm not really sure why, but it just sorta strikes me as amusing...
no, but then who would have been able to imagine linus working paul allen?
I remember, back when I was a kid, walking through the video store and looking at the covers of all the cool movies I wanted to watch.
There was one in particular that stands out.
It was called "The Exterminator". The cover had this arnold schwarzeneger looking guy in fatigues with this huge flame thrower, trying to blow torch the camera taking his picture.
I used to look at that picture and think, "damn, that guy must be trying to start a flame war."
I get the same feeling when taco posts stories like this.
oh, so there you go.
it's a kinda wierd picture...
(peter@mustard)-(/dev/tty1)-(~/lzip)
(Sat Mar 31)-(11:35pm) 17 > file lzip
lzip: JPEG image data, JFIF standard
(peter@mustard)-(/dev/tty1)-(~/lzip)
(Sat Mar 31)-(11:35pm) 18 >
hmm... this makes me wonder if it was a good idea to compress my home directory with this thing...
./lunzip
(peter@mustard)-(/dev/tty1)-(~/lzip)
(Sat Mar 31)-(10:23pm) 13 > strings
Goldfinger.
He's the man, the man with the midas touch.
A spider's touch.
Such a cold finger.
Beckons you to enter his web of sin
But don't go in.
Golden words he will pour in your ear,
But his lies can't disguise what you fear,
For a golden girl knows when he's kissed her,
It's the kiss of death from
Mister Goldfinger.
Pretty girl beware of this heart of gold
This heart is cold.
Golden words he will pour in your ear,
But his lies can't disguise what you fear,
For a golden girl knows when he's kissed her,
It's the kiss of death from
Mister Goldfinger.
Pretty girl beware of this heart of gold
This heart is cold.
He loves only gold,
Only gold.
He loves gold.
He loves only gold,
Only gold.
He loves gold.
(peter@mustard)-(/dev/tty1)-(~/lzip)
(Sat Mar 31)-(10:23pm) 14 >
please do not send this one on. it's a dumb question. it will get the canned response.
we have a great opportunity here to ask real questions...let's not waste that with this kind of drivvel.
Why is the slashdot community so vehemently opposed to companies making money through honest means? This stuff costs money. Deal with it.
they're not. read the comments.
oh, that's right. you posted early (#15) trying to be the "calming" voice of reason.
lame.
-Peter
where are you when I want to laugh at turbolnux?
my first thought was of the invention of the babel fish:
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed at the next zebra crossing.
jebus, I miss douglas adams
I can't stand how bad the grammar is on Slashdot.
why is it so hard to believe?
a true geek (tm) spends their time reading man pages rather than the mla guidelines...
gotta say, this hole really reminds of a message that was recently forwarded to bugtraq.
(taco, your lameness filter sucks)
SERIOUS VULNERABILTY AFFECTS ALL VERSIONS OF UNIX AND WINDOWS
A serious vulnerability has been found in all versions of
Unix and Windows. This problem most likely affects all
other systems as well.
It has been found that computer systems must be physically moved
prior to installation at a computing facility. Moreover,
when these systems are transported, they are usually moved
at some point by human beings.
Obvious insecurity Inc. has found that a serious DOS attack
can be waged on these systems when attackers stand on top of a building
high above the area where a system is being moved at the proper
time interval.
The attackers toolkit consists of a long range flamethrower,
a large sledgehammer, and concussion grenades. If the attacker
has perfect timing, they may drop the sledgehammer/light the
flamethrower/drop the grenade onto the target system in
question, thereby creating a DOS condition.
This scenario can be spread easily through a coordinated
attack, but this has yet to be seen in the wild.
Vendors have been notified 1.5 minutes ago, but have so
far proven that they are incompetent by not releasing
patches or sending a reply to our email. Therfore, in
the interests of full disclosure, we are making these
shocking results public, since YOU have a right to know.
This earth shaking, trend setting vulnerability has been
discovered by Obvious Security Inc. We hope to overwhelm
bugtraq and the other lists with our skills so we can
make more money and have more prestige in the computer
security industry.
Remember - "Just because it's right in your face, does
not mean that it's obvious".
Obvious Security Inc. Bulletin #2600
uh, that should be
"the government should be doing more for children"
whoops.
or something like that.
the way I see it, the school district was trying to keep parents from having to answer the questions:
"mommy, what's racism?"
and
"daddy, what's 'racial prejudice'?"
my first inclination is to say that they aren't giving the parents enough credit. These are obviously very important issues, things that need to be discussed with absolutely everyone. It's also a difficult topic for parents to broach. If a child asks you a question such as this (especially becuase of a science fair project), then the project was a *huge* success. It makes *no* sense that such a project would be removed when it's looked at in this light.
Then I fall back into my comfortable little shell of denial and say that the government should be doing more children. Racism and violence are the products of tv/movies, and video games.
ahh, much better. cozy.
how much you would give me for my sanity.
;o)
the first thing that goes when the next big virus hits my company is my sanity.
this is because multiple messages are sent to all saying
"the message with as a subject line is a virus, don't open it. get your virus update here"
and then you see 10 messages right after it with the afore mentioned subject.
I don't know why these people have an email account anyway, they can't f*cking read.
I hate monday.
Here you have,
damnit.