I have ADSL, if I upload at 30K I don't get a good download rate so I set my upload at 10-15k and then turn it up once I don't when I don't want to download anymore.
(This could just be that I haven't shaped my connection properly!)
Well, mp3 may be good enough for the people, but it's taken currently unbroken DRM to make the RIAA &co switch from CD to MP3.
Outside DMCA countries DRM that doesn't have key-escrow to ensure that the material can be copied at will as soon as the copyright expires breaches current copyright laws. It's also the mirror of napster mk1.
Well there's Jewish Zionist/Fundamentalist (which is what I'm referring to), Jewish (like a lot of Christians) and Jewish well that's what I sign on the dotted line.
The communist ways I was referring to where things like kibbutz and Zionism.
I didn't stereotype, I just made a generalisation just like the word Jewish is a generalisation.
Kibbutz are described as....
'The kibbutz (Hebrew word for "communal settlement") is a unique rural community; a society dedicated to mutual aid and social justice; a socioeconomic system based on the principle of joint ownership of property, equality and cooperation of production, consumption and education; the fulfilment of the idea "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"; a home for those who have chosen it.'
Sounds communist to me.
'throughout the middle ages in Europe'
It should also be noted that the Jews more or less 'invented' interest, and in the Magna Carta it states, "10. If one who has borrowed from the Jews any sum, great or small, die before that loan can be repaid, the debt shall not bear interest while the heir is under age, of whomsoever he may hold; and if the debt fall into our hands, we will not take anything except the principal sum contained in the bond"
I'm not Jewish and don't have a Jewish upbringing but I have been told on a number of occasions that Jews aren't expected to charge each other interest and such like. Were they just paranoid?
It is possible to be communal within a community but capitalist and 'wanting to take over the world' outside, did your mum charge you minimum wage to help you out as school?
Well, the police are privatised to an extent and so is the army their not 'managed' by the government just paid for by the people via the government.
In the UK old people get some things paid for that others don't, like fuel. and some people are given computers and cell phones paid for by the government[people] I don't see many people laughing at that.
Corruption is just an extension of being 'selfish'.
My girlfriend complains when I'm 5 minutes late as if she just missed buying the winning lottery ticket. She expected a return on her investment of time and wanted to charge me interest (having to listen to her complain).
'Some services that are considered vital' Yes and the more vital services we provide the closer we get to communism.... when cell phones only cost 1$ why not make them free.
'I find this rhetoric to be common amongst the wealthy business class and conservatives in general'
How do you think they got wealthy? Buy being nice and promoting everyone else's product or sharing.
I'm not a Conservative but there mentality would appear to be, 'If I'm 1$ richer then the worlds 1$ richer' and a 'commie' would say, 'If I'm 1$ richer then I'm too rich'.
I haven't seen much trickle down to the war torn countries of Africa, well except for reduced licensing on Microsoft products.
The US is generally mad at Cuba because they don't hold elections even though Fidel Castro has a huge approval rating.
When asked why he doesn't hold elections to stop the US going on about it he says,'Because I don't have to'.
Castro is also well known for saying,'I could have done a lot better, but overall I haven't done to bad'
Jews are also known for their 'communist' ways, and I'm sure if you looked around a thousand or so years ago you would find lots of communist type groups.
Should have known it was a kids book. I always hared the way the patronised me with things like 'he who must not be named', I've only just started to read fiction again because of the crap they made me read at school.
I'm sure that there only there to get the weird ideas of good and 'evil' into kids heads before they have a chance to think for themselves.
I was using an everything can be good or bad analogy which you and many others failed to miss. I chose this method as a parody of the reply I was replying to. I was saying that Gandhi used salt to convey his message even though most people in the west eat a dangerous amount, how could someone so great miss something so obvious.
I think I strengthened my argument by drawing attention to the absurdity of the post I was replying to, since all the 'You said Gandhi salt bad' replies back me up. Do you really think that I believe that Gandhi is the cause of people eating too much salt?
' as do obviously absurd attacks like "Then you know nothing."'
Again I was just writing a parody of your reply, you know nothing because you did not understand the basis of my argument but were sure that you did (even though it appeared preposterous).
Next time a statement seems so untrue that it must be impossible expect that it is a parody highlighting the flaws in the original argument.
'Loads of top-level tool windows is a usability nightmare.'
Proof please, some people work better with a more 'cluttered' desktop, look up time and motion studies comparing dyslexics with non-dyslexics.
If you don't have proof I'm writing some applications to test exactly how usable things are.
Did you know that for a largish (say 1 inch) area the time it takes you to click it is in direct relation to how far away from the mouse it is. when ever anyone says 'the corners and edges are easiest to click' their talking crap for anything that's larger than a few pixels (and who could see something that small anyway!)
'There is a reason both the Gnome and KDE projects have HCI guidelines. And this app doesn't follow either of them.'
Have you read the KDE guidelines? most KDE apps don't follow them.
I would prefer that the toolkit separated the layout of the application from it's function so that the interface could be tailored to the user.
'Your experience must not be all that considerable then.' or yours.
'Nope, in VB it's easy to write crappy code'
bollocks, as one very obvious example that anyone who has ever used VB cannot fail to miss VB's object model so poor you often have to hack around VB to do a good design.
VB also encourages the development of slow runtime bound objects via activeX/OLE when faster runtime bound objects via DLL's are available in other languages.
Try doing MAPI development (not simple MAPI) in VB, it's not quite impossible but your going to be writing a serious hack.
And try doing any data manipulation.
In Delphi and Java all these examples far easier,neater, faster.
'Ha, ha. Desktop apps you mean?'
No, accounting applications, that used MAPI as a transport to send data to other copies of Excell etc....
'Are you for real? What, you've never seen a badly designed and coded C++ application? Do you really believe it's the language and not the developer? Are you kidding me?'
Yes I've seen badly designed C++ applications, hey look how bad my Grammar is, but far less Japanese have problems with Grammar than English speakers, so is it just my fault or is the language also to blame?
'You know what they say: all generalizations are stupid.'
Ok then more than 95% of the time, and statisticly I can generalise. (that's why a quart of milk only has to be 95% of a quart). I still think that most people who suggest VB projects are very short sighted since Delphi and Java are just as easy(and have been for a very long time) and better. I think their doing a 'no one ever got sacked for buying IBM' and copping out so that if the project fails no one will question their desision.
When people say coca-cola was responsible for the modern day image of Santa they usually get the reply of , 'but coca-cola didn't event the red fat Santa'.
Just because something wasn't someones original idea doesn't mean that they aren't the reason it became popular or is at the state it's in today.
It is often said that people admire what Hitler had dome with the Hitler youth which resulted in a greater uptake of Scouts.
People where trapaning at least a thousand years ago, but it is nothing like modern ideas of brain surgery.
I would and have tried on a number of occasions but probably have dyslexia. Look at how bad my grammar and spelling is, that's how bad everyone elses' looks to me.
I am sorry that you base the intelligence of a gorilla on it's lack of communication skills.
1/2 as fast.... no way. VB 6 was faster because it 'compiled' instead of interpreting (though most things were still done through function calls)
Even a simple nested loop in VB is slower than 1/2 the speed of C I've typically had about 10times or more performance in C over VB for intensive tasks ( 1/2 the speed is still slow in real terms you transactions are twice as expensive)
Oh, and for strings use byref's and pointers into the string to speed things up a lot (same is true for java)
Ummm, bullshit. VB6 is compiled to native code and except for a very few types of string processing and other niche things is as fast as anything produced by the MSVC++ compiler... because that's the compiler it uses. In any case, database reads and writes are not going to be any faster if you code them in assembler or VB, and that's what most VB applications are used for. UI apps are (in three year-old or newer hardware) effin' blazing fast.
Not in my considerable experience though it depends what your doing as to how slow VB is.
True, but that is a limitation of the developer, not the language of the technology the language is built on.
So why not use Assembly and get rid of VB then? I know lets get every English speaker to write code in German.
The point, the 'harder' it is to write good code the more chance of error, in VB it is hard to write good code and as a result you get worse code.
Really now, that's quite the proclamation considering that many people developed quite complex apps with a more than a few hundred "function points", did them right and made quite a bit of money in the process.
Yes, I've seen complex apps hacked together in Excell too. If the apps where in Java or Delphi or... then they would probably run faster, have less bugs, have a better code base, be more extensible etc... I've had to 'fix' million pound VB apps before and it would have been so much easier if they weren't in VB. I've also been on a project for a large finincial company several months before VB6 came out, how were going to run mission critical systems written using VB6, the project was a re-write of an old[couple of years] system that couldn't deal with the system load.
VB is hard to refactor, bug prone and doesn't have a good object model. Anyone who suggests that it is good for mission critical or large projects should go and look at Java, Delphi, C++ or practically any other language out there.
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I wonder what what platforms the 'older' compilers are on, and if they can really run Moz.
I say dropping support for the BBC Micro until someone writes a gcc arch for the BBC isn't going to hurt too much.
the others aren't though
Aren't half the pins earth's to stop the noise?
Switching to light would allow super high speed parallel interfaces because there's no electromagnetic interference.
I'm getting one of ebay.com and risking the tax man for the sake of $255.
At todays rate
$799.95 = EUR606.61
EUR 799.99 = $1054
decimal is both a an ordinal and a system
We commonly use the decimal decimal system.
Generally you denote using something other than decimal in decimal.
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
I have ADSL, if I upload at 30K I don't get a good download rate so I set my upload at 10-15k and then turn it up once I don't when I don't want to download anymore.
(This could just be that I haven't shaped my connection properly!)
'Some of the more pirate friendly clients might have 'solved' this problem'
What problem? leaches who don't share and disconnect once 100% complete. I want that client.
Well, mp3 may be good enough for the people, but it's taken currently unbroken DRM to make the RIAA &co switch from CD to MP3.
Outside DMCA countries DRM that doesn't have key-escrow to ensure that the material can be copied at will as soon as the copyright expires breaches current copyright laws. It's also the mirror of napster mk1.
DMCA + DRM = no more public domain.
Well there's Jewish Zionist/Fundamentalist (which is what I'm referring to), Jewish (like a lot of Christians) and Jewish well that's what I sign on the dotted line.
....
The communist ways I was referring to where things like kibbutz and Zionism.
I didn't stereotype, I just made a generalisation just like the word Jewish is a generalisation.
Kibbutz are described as
'The kibbutz (Hebrew word for "communal settlement") is a unique rural community; a society dedicated to mutual aid and social justice; a socioeconomic system based on the principle of joint ownership of property, equality and cooperation of production, consumption and education; the fulfilment of the idea "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"; a home for those who have chosen it.'
Sounds communist to me.
'throughout the middle ages in Europe'
It should also be noted that the Jews more or less 'invented' interest, and in the Magna Carta it states,
"10. If one who has borrowed from the Jews any sum, great or small, die before that loan can be repaid, the debt shall not bear interest while the heir is under age, of whomsoever he may hold; and if the debt fall into our hands, we will not take anything except the principal sum contained in the bond"
I'm not Jewish and don't have a Jewish upbringing but I have been told on a number of occasions that Jews aren't expected to charge each other interest and such like. Were they just paranoid?
It is possible to be communal within a community but capitalist and 'wanting to take over the world' outside, did your mum charge you minimum wage to help you out as school?
The military isn't completely government managed.
NASA, Lockide martin, and Hunting Brae all do military work on contract for the government.
I should imagine that some groups in the military are also independent, things like the now non existent ATF and probably the FBI.
Well, the police are privatised to an extent and so is the army their not 'managed' by the government just paid for by the people via the government.
In the UK old people get some things paid for that others don't, like fuel. and some people are given computers and cell phones paid for by the government[people] I don't see many people laughing at that.
Corruption is just an extension of being 'selfish'.
My girlfriend complains when I'm 5 minutes late as if she just missed buying the winning lottery ticket. She expected a return on her investment of time and wanted to charge me interest (having to listen to her complain).
All the makings of a monopolist right there.
'Some services that are considered vital'
Yes and the more vital services we provide the closer we get to communism....
when cell phones only cost 1$ why not make them free.
All laws are shallow.
'I find this rhetoric to be common amongst the wealthy business class and conservatives in general'
How do you think they got wealthy? Buy being nice and promoting everyone else's product or sharing.
I'm not a Conservative but there mentality would appear to be, 'If I'm 1$ richer then the worlds 1$ richer' and a 'commie' would say, 'If I'm 1$ richer then I'm too rich'.
I haven't seen much trickle down to the war torn countries of Africa, well except for reduced licensing on Microsoft products.
The US is generally mad at Cuba because they don't hold elections even though Fidel Castro has a huge approval rating.
,'Because I don't have to'.
,'I could have done a lot better, but overall I haven't done to bad'
When asked why he doesn't hold elections to stop the US going on about it he says
Castro is also well known for saying
Jews are also known for their 'communist' ways, and I'm sure if you looked around a thousand or so years ago you would find lots of communist type groups.
Should have known it was a kids book. I always hared the way the patronised me with things like 'he who must not be named', I've only just started to read fiction again because of the crap they made me read at school.
I'm sure that there only there to get the weird ideas of good and 'evil' into kids heads before they have a chance to think for themselves.
Admiration for what Hitler had achieved with the Hitler Youth caused western countries to look a bit more at things like the boy scouts.
I can't provide any Internet links but since I was a child that's how people had refereed to the boy scouts.
Think of coke and Santa. Even though coke didn't event the red fat Santa, they were responsible for bringing it into popularity.
I was using an everything can be good or bad analogy which you and many others failed to miss.
I chose this method as a parody of the reply I was replying to. I was saying that Gandhi used salt to convey his message even though most people in the west eat a dangerous amount, how could someone so great miss something so obvious.
I think I strengthened my argument by drawing attention to the absurdity of the post I was replying to, since all the 'You said Gandhi salt bad' replies back me up. Do you really think that I believe that Gandhi is the cause of people eating too much salt?
' as do obviously absurd attacks like "Then you know nothing."'
Again I was just writing a parody of your reply, you know nothing because you did not understand the basis of my argument but were sure that you did (even though it appeared preposterous).
Next time a statement seems so untrue that it must be impossible expect that it is a parody highlighting the flaws in the original argument.
'Loads of top-level tool windows is a usability nightmare.'
Proof please, some people work better with a more 'cluttered' desktop, look up time and motion studies comparing dyslexics with non-dyslexics.
If you don't have proof I'm writing some applications to test exactly how usable things are.
Did you know that for a largish (say 1 inch) area the time it takes you to click it is in direct relation to how far away from the mouse it is. when ever anyone says 'the corners and edges are easiest to click' their talking crap for anything that's larger than a few pixels (and who could see something that small anyway!)
'There is a reason both the Gnome and KDE projects have HCI guidelines. And this app doesn't follow either of them.'
Have you read the KDE guidelines? most KDE apps don't follow them.
I would prefer that the toolkit separated the layout of the application from it's function so that the interface could be tailored to the user.
nope, he's french. The french have always had some 'interesting' design, I kinda like the mascot.
Personally I think this whole square box copy XP/Windows that KDE are doing looks bad.
'Your experience must not be all that considerable then.'
,neater, faster.
or yours.
'Nope, in VB it's easy to write crappy code'
bollocks, as one very obvious example that anyone who has ever used VB cannot fail to miss VB's object model so poor you often have to hack around VB to do a good design.
VB also encourages the development of slow runtime bound objects via activeX/OLE when faster runtime bound objects via DLL's are available in other languages.
Try doing MAPI development (not simple MAPI) in VB, it's not quite impossible but your going to be writing a serious hack.
And try doing any data manipulation.
In Delphi and Java all these examples far easier
'Ha, ha. Desktop apps you mean?'
No, accounting applications, that used MAPI as a transport to send data to other copies of Excell etc....
'Are you for real? What, you've never seen a badly designed and coded C++ application? Do you really believe it's the language and not the developer? Are you kidding me?'
Yes I've seen badly designed C++ applications, hey look how bad my Grammar is, but far less Japanese have problems with Grammar than English speakers, so is it just my fault or is the language also to blame?
'You know what they say: all generalizations are stupid.'
Ok then more than 95% of the time, and statisticly I can generalise. (that's why a quart of milk only has to be 95% of a quart). I still think that most people who suggest VB projects are very short sighted since Delphi and Java are just as easy(and have been for a very long time) and better. I think their doing a 'no one ever got sacked for buying IBM' and copping out so that if the project fails no one will question their desision.
When people say coca-cola was responsible for the modern day image of Santa they usually get the reply of , 'but coca-cola didn't event the red fat Santa'.
Just because something wasn't someones original idea doesn't mean that they aren't the reason it became popular or is at the state it's in today.
It is often said that people admire what Hitler had dome with the Hitler youth which resulted in a greater uptake of Scouts.
People where trapaning at least a thousand years ago, but it is nothing like modern ideas of brain surgery.
I would and have tried on a number of occasions but probably have dyslexia. Look at how bad my grammar and spelling is, that's how bad everyone elses' looks to me.
I am sorry that you base the intelligence of a gorilla on it's lack of communication skills.
1/2 as fast.... no way. VB 6 was faster because it 'compiled' instead of interpreting (though most things were still done through function calls)
Even a simple nested loop in VB is slower than 1/2 the speed of C I've typically had about 10times or more performance in C over VB for intensive tasks ( 1/2 the speed is still slow in real terms you transactions are twice as expensive)
Oh, and for strings use byref's and pointers into the string to speed things up a lot (same is true for java)
Ummm, bullshit. VB6 is compiled to native code and except for a very few types of string processing and other niche things is as fast as anything produced by the MSVC++ compiler... because that's the compiler it uses. In any case, database reads and writes are not going to be any faster if you code them in assembler or VB, and that's what most VB applications are used for. UI apps are (in three year-old or newer hardware) effin' blazing fast.
Not in my considerable experience though it depends what your doing as to how slow VB is.
True, but that is a limitation of the developer, not the language of the technology the language is built on.
So why not use Assembly and get rid of VB then? I know lets get every English speaker to write code in German.
The point, the 'harder' it is to write good code the more chance of error, in VB it is hard to write good code and as a result you get worse code.
Really now, that's quite the proclamation considering that many people developed quite complex apps with a more than a few hundred "function points", did them right and made quite a bit of money in the process.
Yes, I've seen complex apps hacked together in Excell too. If the apps where in Java or Delphi or
VB is hard to refactor, bug prone and doesn't have a good object model. Anyone who suggests that it is good for mission critical or large projects should go and look at Java, Delphi, C++ or practically any other language out there.