But has anyone actually done this? I hear a lot of "There is no crypto, it's just tags" but I haven't yet found anyone who has done as you state. Perhaps I'm not looking well enough...
You missed the point that the supposedly sub-par food grown in greenhouses and under lights can in fact be better tasting and contain more nutrients because it is harvest at peak ripeness and didn't spend days packed up in a tractor trailer.
The point is not to dismiss the economies of scale, but to point out the benefits gained when growing food very close to the source. Gains that go beyond mere cost.
Americans focusing on 'cost' over other issues related to consumption are driving jobs out of the country and to China, just so the companies can provide that coveted 'lowest price'.
Dude, organic hydroponics. It's real, I practice it in my home to grow greens for my tortoises in the winter. The shit I grow under an old security light looks better than the stuff I buy at the grocery store! Either I'm a better farmer than the big guys, or all that transport takes a toll on the food.
Plants might not do as well, but then we don't have to spend energy transporting food 1000 miles from BFE. We also reduce the infrastructure load on NYC and surrounding areas.
Ventilation will be a problem, but it's simply a matter of scale.
Hey, when gas goes to $7.00 a gallon, the cost to work the land and transport the goods to market will be HUGE and this idea might not look so bad anymore. Comparing your chemical-fed and chemical-protected family farm to a closed-system all-organic greenhouse on cost of structure alone isn't really fair.
And FoxNews will devote several hour-long 'special features' and 'townhall meetings' which center arround bashing those godless heathens who would have sex outside of marriage and a gravitational field.
I really don't care. I'm doing alright while Bush is president. If a few thousand soldiers, mercenaries and contractors suck down an IED in Iraq, I don't give a shit. Not my problem...especially since the military is like 88% pro-bush even now in 2007! They want this fight so bad it seems, especially when every time I see a man in uniform on TV he is praising 'accomplishments' and bashing those who think this war was a sinful idea as 'hating the troops'.
Not much respect for the military, nor the chicken-hawks these days...
I admit it. If Civ5 requires DX-10, I will buy a new computer and copy of Vista. Of course, as a perpetual Grad student, I'll get a deep deep discount on it, but I'll still feel dirty.
Gave up rights and privledges in the name of 'security', and a mall rent-a-cop could probably secure those systems and charge less to boot.
But as long as the simple folk are still scared by the turrist boogeyman, gays getting married, and corporations hiring illegal immigrants and out-sourcing works in order to meet the demand for cheap goods from those simple folk...this is the future of the USA.
...is one of competition. If steroids are allowed, anyone who wants to compete in any major sport must use steroids. And of course, it won't stop at steroids - there are many more chemicals out there. Which also means that your talk about "safe, supervised steroid use" will mean silch when the next generation of performance-enhancing drugs roll into town. It is no more illogical to ban steroids in Baseball than to ban stealing cash from the bank in Monopoly - even if neither activity directly harms competing players.
As for the argument about banning weight lifting, it would not only be unenforceable to a much larger degree than banning steroids, unlike steroids, it is a technique that is bounded more firmly, and brings less danger and side effects to the user. So we want to preserve competition? Maybe we should institute salary caps? That sounds way more effective than all this hoopla to ban a legal substance being used in a game. I mean, what about supplements and the like? You have the same 'performance enhancing drugs race' when you take standard steroids out of the picture, it's just with un-tested and un-regulated products.
How about an over-arching ruling, instead of picking on one type of substance? It just seems an impossible goal, and it's wasting my tax dollars! Make the MLB Millionaires pay for this arbitration. Blech.
The original poster argued that steroids made people stronger, and that reduced the importance of skill. I don't really think we should stop weightlifting, just pointing out the flaw in his argument. Plenty of people are crippled for life due to weight-lifting issues. Of course you can reduce risk by having spotters at all times and therapy and proper training management to ensure joints and tendons aren't damaged. Of course, steroids are also very safe when used with therapy, proper management and the like.
Backlash from oppressive communities. Communities work because they have alot in common, usually social rules.
The monolithic 'good ol' days' society of the 50s and before is long past. Our 'melting pot' isn't melting together because people have realized that they don't need to conform to one vision of the nation. And why should they? It's the land of the free, we are free to believe what we want. It just so happens that people are starting to believe much more diverse things, some of these concepts are antagonists.
With internet and easy personal travel, people have less incentive to give up their principles and to conform to the local community. They don't like being gay in their religious home-town where people look down on them, so they move. They don't like being made fun of as the 'college boy' in a dying blue-collar industrial town, so they move.
When people don't buy into the 'one vision', social shaming fails. It used to be that if you didn't behave according to the rules you'd be ignored or exiled. Now people voluntarily exile themselves from communities that don't represent their views.
When the president can declare you an 'enemy combatant' and strip you of your rights....I wouldn't be counting on third-parties to keep me off the waterboards in Gitmo! Yeah...not in the current political climate.
Steroids aren't illegal, they are controlled. Under the care of a doctor with regular blood-tests, they are quite safe and quite legal.
The game is about 'juicing up'? Steroids give you more muscle mass, and thereby make you stronger. You're saying that stronger players negate the skill factor? Maybe baseball should stop their players from lifting weights, eh? Maybe they should just run laps arround the bases, practice drills and that's it? Do you even read what you type?
If it were legal to take steroids for performance enhancement, the players would be able to have proper doctor supervision, and would not compromise their health. As it is, they must sneak arround to get that edge, and they are compromising their health. The government made it illegal to use steroids for performance enhancement, but people want that enhancement. People don't want to go to jail tho...so they compromise and don't use steroids with the proper blood-tests and doctor check-ups.
I hope I've opened your eyes...the lines you spout sound straight out of a D.A.R.E. presentation!
I certainly wouldn't call subsidies for out-dated dogma 'critical' in our complex society. Maybe we can cap the 'child tax credit' at 2, while we're at it. Plenty of low cost labor clamoring at the gates to get in.
Growing up, I graduated highschool in 1992. I was fed a whole bunch of crap about how the 'bad soviets spy on their people' and the 'bad soviets imprison people with no chance of trial' and 'bad soviets take their peoples' rights and tell them it's for security'/
How ironic that those adults who were so frothy about the USSR==bad and USA==good based on those claims, are now supporting the use of those tactics in the USA!
I asked a few of them to explain the contradiction. They said that it's better to be safe than sorry! How funny!
Blumenthal also tried to bully MySpace into giving up user info without a subpoena. What a cock that guy is...spend 30 minutes and get the freakin' subpoena and do it right you jackass. Douchebag lawyer thinking the law don't apply to him...what a novel concept!
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But has anyone actually done this? I hear a lot of "There is no crypto, it's just tags" but I haven't yet found anyone who has done as you state. Perhaps I'm not looking well enough...
Surely it is possible that information was embedded, but we are unable to read it?
He seemed to mock the idea of 'organics' so I assumed he liked those chemical salts used in industrial farming. My bad.
You missed the point that the supposedly sub-par food grown in greenhouses and under lights can in fact be better tasting and contain more nutrients because it is harvest at peak ripeness and didn't spend days packed up in a tractor trailer.
The point is not to dismiss the economies of scale, but to point out the benefits gained when growing food very close to the source. Gains that go beyond mere cost.
Americans focusing on 'cost' over other issues related to consumption are driving jobs out of the country and to China, just so the companies can provide that coveted 'lowest price'.
Dude, organic hydroponics. It's real, I practice it in my home to grow greens for my tortoises in the winter. The shit I grow under an old security light looks better than the stuff I buy at the grocery store! Either I'm a better farmer than the big guys, or all that transport takes a toll on the food.
Plants might not do as well, but then we don't have to spend energy transporting food 1000 miles from BFE. We also reduce the infrastructure load on NYC and surrounding areas.
Ventilation will be a problem, but it's simply a matter of scale.
Hey, when gas goes to $7.00 a gallon, the cost to work the land and transport the goods to market will be HUGE and this idea might not look so bad anymore. Comparing your chemical-fed and chemical-protected family farm to a closed-system all-organic greenhouse on cost of structure alone isn't really fair.
And FoxNews will devote several hour-long 'special features' and 'townhall meetings' which center arround bashing those godless heathens who would have sex outside of marriage and a gravitational field.
I really don't care. I'm doing alright while Bush is president. If a few thousand soldiers, mercenaries and contractors suck down an IED in Iraq, I don't give a shit. Not my problem...especially since the military is like 88% pro-bush even now in 2007! They want this fight so bad it seems, especially when every time I see a man in uniform on TV he is praising 'accomplishments' and bashing those who think this war was a sinful idea as 'hating the troops'.
Not much respect for the military, nor the chicken-hawks these days...
I admit it. If Civ5 requires DX-10, I will buy a new computer and copy of Vista. Of course, as a perpetual Grad student, I'll get a deep deep discount on it, but I'll still feel dirty.
...as feeding 4 children in today's economy means they cannot afford fuel?
Gave up rights and privledges in the name of 'security', and a mall rent-a-cop could probably secure those systems and charge less to boot.
But as long as the simple folk are still scared by the turrist boogeyman, gays getting married, and corporations hiring illegal immigrants and out-sourcing works in order to meet the demand for cheap goods from those simple folk...this is the future of the USA.
...is one of competition. If steroids are allowed, anyone who wants to compete in any major sport must use steroids. And of course, it won't stop at steroids - there are many more chemicals out there. Which also means that your talk about "safe, supervised steroid use" will mean silch when the next generation of performance-enhancing drugs roll into town. It is no more illogical to ban steroids in Baseball than to ban stealing cash from the bank in Monopoly - even if neither activity directly harms competing players.As for the argument about banning weight lifting, it would not only be unenforceable to a much larger degree than banning steroids, unlike steroids, it is a technique that is bounded more firmly, and brings less danger and side effects to the user. So we want to preserve competition? Maybe we should institute salary caps? That sounds way more effective than all this hoopla to ban a legal substance being used in a game. I mean, what about supplements and the like? You have the same 'performance enhancing drugs race' when you take standard steroids out of the picture, it's just with un-tested and un-regulated products.
How about an over-arching ruling, instead of picking on one type of substance? It just seems an impossible goal, and it's wasting my tax dollars! Make the MLB Millionaires pay for this arbitration. Blech.
The original poster argued that steroids made people stronger, and that reduced the importance of skill. I don't really think we should stop weightlifting, just pointing out the flaw in his argument. Plenty of people are crippled for life due to weight-lifting issues. Of course you can reduce risk by having spotters at all times and therapy and proper training management to ensure joints and tendons aren't damaged. Of course, steroids are also very safe when used with therapy, proper management and the like.
Backlash from oppressive communities. Communities work because they have alot in common, usually social rules.
The monolithic 'good ol' days' society of the 50s and before is long past. Our 'melting pot' isn't melting together because people have realized that they don't need to conform to one vision of the nation. And why should they? It's the land of the free, we are free to believe what we want. It just so happens that people are starting to believe much more diverse things, some of these concepts are antagonists.
With internet and easy personal travel, people have less incentive to give up their principles and to conform to the local community. They don't like being gay in their religious home-town where people look down on them, so they move. They don't like being made fun of as the 'college boy' in a dying blue-collar industrial town, so they move.
When people don't buy into the 'one vision', social shaming fails. It used to be that if you didn't behave according to the rules you'd be ignored or exiled. Now people voluntarily exile themselves from communities that don't represent their views.
...we wouldn't be discussing NASA-issue dildos!
Once the Prez accuses you of being an 'enemy combatant', you lose your right to a trial! Pretty scary, eh?
When the president can declare you an 'enemy combatant' and strip you of your rights....I wouldn't be counting on third-parties to keep me off the waterboards in Gitmo! Yeah...not in the current political climate.
All sorts of stuff up there on the station...surely some of it can find an additional purpose...
Steroids aren't illegal, they are controlled. Under the care of a doctor with regular blood-tests, they are quite safe and quite legal.
The game is about 'juicing up'? Steroids give you more muscle mass, and thereby make you stronger. You're saying that stronger players negate the skill factor? Maybe baseball should stop their players from lifting weights, eh? Maybe they should just run laps arround the bases, practice drills and that's it? Do you even read what you type?
If it were legal to take steroids for performance enhancement, the players would be able to have proper doctor supervision, and would not compromise their health. As it is, they must sneak arround to get that edge, and they are compromising their health. The government made it illegal to use steroids for performance enhancement, but people want that enhancement. People don't want to go to jail tho...so they compromise and don't use steroids with the proper blood-tests and doctor check-ups.
I hope I've opened your eyes...the lines you spout sound straight out of a D.A.R.E. presentation!
No-fucking-body.
But our culture hates cheaters, so we hate gold farmers.
I certainly wouldn't call subsidies for out-dated dogma 'critical' in our complex society. Maybe we can cap the 'child tax credit' at 2, while we're at it. Plenty of low cost labor clamoring at the gates to get in.
Now Bush's lies about Iraq+Yellow Cake and Iraq+AlQuieda. That's killed over 3k soldiers and countless Iraqi citizens.
:(
The only silver lining is that the military claims to be 88% republican/conservative.
At least it's Bush's voters dying for his lying.
Not much of a silver lining tho
Growing up, I graduated highschool in 1992. I was fed a whole bunch of crap about how the 'bad soviets spy on their people' and the 'bad soviets imprison people with no chance of trial' and 'bad soviets take their peoples' rights and tell them it's for security'/
How ironic that those adults who were so frothy about the USSR==bad and USA==good based on those claims, are now supporting the use of those tactics in the USA!
I asked a few of them to explain the contradiction. They said that it's better to be safe than sorry! How funny!
Blumenthal also tried to bully MySpace into giving up user info without a subpoena. What a cock that guy is...spend 30 minutes and get the freakin' subpoena and do it right you jackass. Douchebag lawyer thinking the law don't apply to him...what a novel concept!
You can say the sky is pink all day long, but I still see blue.
...It's some weirdness I don't understand...
Belief in something with no scientific proof is the foundation of just about every failed adventure in human-kind.
It turns man against man, because of different ancient social mores and savagely ignorant beliefs about the workings of the universe.
Glad I could accomodate you, as religion has been a particular pox on my existance.