hey, I still remember the wxCanvas stuff. this is really oldschool, apart from the fact that I'am GUI-less. thanks anyhow, wx was cool last time I used it! (1994?)
thanks for the hint, but a function call with a handle as 1st arg ist really too c-ish even for me, I'll stick to Qt, ACE and Boost. thanks anyhow for clearing up the technology!!!
well getting hardware information of this kind could practically be used as seed for random numbers. why always feed it with zero or get-ticks-since reboot? bye
I hate Microsoft as much as I hate Nike, Coca-Cola, PC-architecture, Qwerty Keyboards, Ethernet, Ikea and Holywood Blockbusters. I hate product dominance, not leaving any worthy alternatives left. I preferably buy "stuff" from small companies, which I abandon as these get big. I also personally think that if 90% of people are using something, it cannot be good, because most people are stupid, uninfomed and have little time to inform themselves about other possible products which may fit their needs in a better way. So go against the flow, ignore commercials, fight the big ones, make sure no product (or comapny) ever reaches the 5% of the market share. Bye
it's the same story repeating over and over again, you have a consortium or forum or simply a bunch of smart guys mostly university based people writing long documents inventing a new techonolgy and backing it with a standard. than you have Joe Doe which finds it too complicated or you have a company not willing to pay an expert so everyone is happy when a simpler technology arrives. the simpler techology runs into problems later on but who cares, the learning curve is not as steep. so the bad technology wins in long term. here sad examples (I was always on the loosing side and am proud of it):
CORBA->SOAP H323->SIP HyperLAN->WLAN ATM->Ethernet DiffServ->IntServ C++ -> Java
what an amazing bunch of similar comments above, yeah millions of dollars lost, yeah stealing a banana would get you sentenced longer, yeah he should be punished like an adult. you are all either too old, or republicans or yuppie scum treating money as your only god. the kid is cool, did not hurt anyone and burned some money, so what? they should have used a secure operating system anyway.
Remeber the times HP used to be cool? Those were the days: HP-UX, Apollo workstations, HP medical equipment, etc. What is left of this company? It is merly an ink producer for all these cheapo inkjets. Hey see it this way: mor than 50% of their revenue is printer business, and the rest is PC, yeah, Compaq, yeah great: buy PC parts, assemble them together and stick an HP sticker on it, outsource support, outsource the assembly, outsource the decision which parts are being used, outsource even the HP sticker production! And what happend to Digital and Alpha? Discontinued, burned down, well done HP. They didn't even keep Stepanow from the STL development team, so he and his team finished their work at SGI!!! And HP's software? Is there anything left? Yes, Openview! Great, catch SNMP traps and show a red-blinking picture of a server being down. And HP's contributions to open source, ever heard of it? No. And ipaqs, what about those, PDA development is dictated by Microsoft's WinCE hardware support, you can't really do anything wrong here, because refernce design is already done by Microsoft. All this company still has is a name, all the rest is simply embarrassing.
yes, too late. I can remember how cool and revolutionary solaris used to be in 1998 or so, what many would have given to be able to see the source of ATM and TCP/IP networking stack, proc file system, kernel process interface etc. but somehow, not really of interest any longer.
here's my short list of STL problems: - decent pointer support missing (who wants to copy objects, large or small) -> usually ends up extending the STL with home grown untested extensions - missing single linked list, double linked list in std::list is an overkill, std::vector is too little as a container - on the other side, who really needs a std::deque
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hey, I still remember the wxCanvas stuff. this is really oldschool, apart from the fact that I'am GUI-less.
thanks anyhow, wx was cool last time I used it! (1994?)
thanks for the hint, but a function call with a handle as 1st arg ist really too c-ish even for me, I'll stick to Qt, ACE and Boost.
thanks anyhow for clearing up the technology!!!
:)))
great summary, thanks!
well getting hardware information of this kind could practically be used as seed for random numbers.
why always feed it with zero or get-ticks-since reboot?
bye
I hate Microsoft as much as I hate Nike, Coca-Cola, PC-architecture, Qwerty Keyboards, Ethernet, Ikea and Holywood Blockbusters. I hate product dominance, not leaving any worthy alternatives left. I preferably buy "stuff" from small companies, which I abandon as these get big. I also personally think that if 90% of people are using something, it cannot be good, because most people are stupid, uninfomed and have little time to inform themselves about other possible products which may fit their needs in a better way.
So go against the flow, ignore commercials, fight the big ones, make sure no product (or comapny) ever reaches the 5% of the market share.
Bye
it's the same story repeating over and over again, you have a consortium or forum or simply a bunch of smart guys mostly university based people writing long documents inventing a new techonolgy and backing it with a standard. than you have Joe Doe which finds it too complicated or you have a company not willing to pay an expert so everyone is happy when a simpler technology arrives. the simpler techology runs into problems later on but who cares, the learning curve is not as steep. so the bad technology wins in long term. here sad examples (I was always on the loosing side and am proud of it):
CORBA->SOAP
H323->SIP
HyperLAN->WLAN
ATM->Ethernet
DiffServ->IntServ
C++ -> Java
Also forgotten: "imagine a beowulf cluster of those!"
what an amazing bunch of similar comments above, yeah millions of dollars lost, yeah stealing a banana would get you sentenced longer, yeah he should be punished like an adult.
you are all either too old, or republicans or yuppie scum treating money as your only god.
the kid is cool, did not hurt anyone and burned some money, so what?
they should have used a secure operating system anyway.
Remeber the times HP used to be cool? Those were the days: HP-UX, Apollo workstations, HP medical equipment, etc.
What is left of this company? It is merly an ink producer for all these cheapo inkjets. Hey see it this way: mor than 50% of their revenue is printer business, and the rest is PC, yeah, Compaq, yeah great: buy PC parts, assemble them together and stick an HP sticker on it, outsource support, outsource the assembly, outsource the decision which parts are being used, outsource even the HP sticker production!
And what happend to Digital and Alpha? Discontinued, burned down, well done HP.
They didn't even keep Stepanow from the STL development team, so he and his team finished their work at SGI!!!
And HP's software? Is there anything left? Yes, Openview! Great, catch SNMP traps and show a red-blinking picture of a server being down.
And HP's contributions to open source, ever heard of it? No.
And ipaqs, what about those, PDA development is dictated by Microsoft's WinCE hardware support, you can't really do anything wrong here, because refernce design is already done by Microsoft.
All this company still has is a name, all the rest is simply embarrassing.
yes, too late. I can remember how cool and revolutionary solaris used to be in 1998 or so, what many would have given to be able to see the source of ATM and TCP/IP networking stack, proc file system, kernel process interface etc. but somehow, not really of interest any longer.
remember the good old zx spectrum with its rubbergumm keyboard, silent and secure!!
on my computer science college in germany about 10 years ago, I had to learn C on my own, all I got was lisp (scheme), modula-2 and assembler.
Who needs X11, we could all downgrade to PostScript based NeWS.
hope i wan't have to remove my "unix forever" tatoo from my arm.
are they selling anything else in the meantime?
here's my short list of STL problems:
- decent pointer support missing (who wants to copy objects, large or small) -> usually ends up
extending the STL with home grown untested extensions
- missing single linked list, double linked list in std::list is an overkill, std::vector is too little as a container
- on the other side, who really needs a std::deque
q.
This guy is very cool.
first post. me too. no point at all.