I think the author went with Red Hat because it's one of the most widely used in business, which is also typically where Solaris is deployed. He didn't tweak either system at all, with the exception of installing the latest updates, because that's what your typical, non-Linux junkie sysadmin is going to do.
Having said that, I agree that not all distros are created equal, and that the results could have been far different (in either direction, mind -- he didn't tweak Solaris at all, either) had the author chosen a different distro.
But the author wasn't going for a "which seriously tuned system will win" type of comparison, just a "which system out of the box will win" type of comparison.
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A database file system is quite accurately described as "The Holy Grail": it's an ancient mythological object of no practical value, something that only insane people would pursue.
I agree. My pastor at church described a situation where some Bhuddists found what they believed to be a peice of Bhudda's finger. They put it on display, and millions of Bhuddists from around the globe made the trek to see it.
But why? Did it solve their problems? Did it bring them closer to Bhudda? Not saying it isn't something that might be cool to see, and it may have even been inspiring to see all those people flocking to it, but the finger itself didn't provide any spiritual oneness.
I may be wrong, mind -- what do I know, really, of Bhuddism? Or filesystems, for that matter. What I do know is if Microsoft says it's the "Holy Grail", then they're arrogance has grown beyond belief...
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The wealthiest half of the US population pays 96% of all taxes.
Off-topic, but one of the bosses here put out an article in our quarterly newsletter stating that the wealthiest 1% of the US pays more taxes than the bottom 50%. He even gave us some numbers.
Turns out, though, that the lowest portion of the bottom 1% make 11 times the amount of money as the bottom 50%, but only pay 9 times more in taxes.
In other words, if you took the bottom 50% and increased their salaries to be in the top 1%, but also left their tax rate the same, they'd be paying more taxes than the top 1% do currently.
It's not exactly the response the boss was looking for, especially since a decent portion of his employees are in the bottom 50%.
...first thought of Stonehenge's connection to women after noticing how some of the stones were smooth, while others were left rough.
"It must have taken enormous effort to smooth the stones,"
So, what he's saying is that women can be smooth (tame? pleasant to be around?) and/or rough (PMS? WTF?), and that it would take a huge effort to make them tolerable?
In other news, Dr. Perks' was beaten to death by 600 women in his neighborhood...
When we were in the planning stages of one of our new warehouses where I currently work, we made sure to add in that the electrical outlets be placed at desktop level. It's so much nicer, and nobody kicks the dang plugs.
the Maximize button actually SHRINKS the jukebox window to a Winamp-sized player.
Actually, if you look at the icon you're clicking, it's not the maximize button. It's the 'restore' button -- ya know, the one built into the Windows API?
Thus, clicking it will togle it from full mode to small mode, the same as many other music apps out there.
Last I checked, PC meant 'Personal Computer', not 'x86 compatible computer.' Which makes my PDA a PC as well.
It just so happens that the rag PCWorld gets its major funding from companies that profit from x86 compatible computers. So, do you think they'll bash the hell out of the ones paying their paycheck in a most public way? No.
Basically it's the same old cross-platform benchmarking issue: each company tweaks their results to show themselves in a favorable light. That's how advertising works. You don't see Kia advertising themselves as a cheap, crappy little car that will rust or rattle itself to death in a few years, right? No, instead they advertise themselves as a reliable alternative to a Honda, Hyundai, Toyota, etc. And they may be right -- but you'll never know until you drop the coin to buy one and live with it for a while.
My company uses Kronos and it interfaces via Ethernet directly into our AS400. Works just fine. We even set up a new system to allow some of our remote sales people to dial into a Windows 2000 server and punch in.
While this law was drawn for them...it's entirely possible that a far smaller car collector would benefit.
Indeed it has. Prior to the Subaru WRX coming to America, and prior to the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo coming here, one of the most popular cars in US SCCA ProRally was....
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. Eh? But it wasn't street legal, and as per the SCCA ProRally rules, all entrants have to have street legal cars. So how'd that work?
My point? The people bringing them in did one of a few things: They brought them in under this law, and hoped that they didn't run more than 2500 miles worth of rallies; they built them from parts starting with a base model Mitsubishi Mirage; or they did a little VIN swapping, all the while greasing the palms of those individuals at the docks.
Were these people super rich? No -- just had enough disposable income to have some fun. Did they benefit from this law? You betcha. Can you do the same? Sure -- for enough cash.
You can still find Robosport for the PC (where I played with it). Actually, I have it for the Windows machines. I'm not sure if it's still out there, but creative Google searching should yeild results. I found it on one of those lovely sites that keep archives of old discontinued games around for download. Illegally, I think. I totally forgot it was available for the Mac first. Now that I have one, I may have to see about finding that somewhere....
I once had to do this to 18 SCSI disks once, after HP came in to "fix" the backplane of the 20 disk array in one of our HP9000 K-series servers. Apparently, the backplane they brought was wired wrong, and it sent a bit of voltage down the line, thus toasting the logic boards on every disk in the array (which they had replaced in the array prior to powering it up).
Needless to say, HP bought us 18 new SCSI disks...
That's funny -- I actually still have a working version of the Tandy Zoomer. Okay, mine is an AST Gridpad, but it's the exact same thing (my good friend had the Casio version). I have the serial cable to connect it to a PC, and the paralell cable to connect to a printer.
In reality, Graffiti released a version for the Zoomer/Gridpad. My friend had it on his, and gave it to me after his Zoomer died. I, unfortunately, don't have the disks anymore.
I unfortunately don't have any other ideas to try, but I can tell you that it does work. I'm running 2.27 under OS X 10.2 on a B&W G3 400 with 512MB of RAM, and it loads quickly (less than 30 seconds), and is quite useable.
What version are you running? I haven't tried 2.28, so it could possibly be broken on OS X at the moment, but 2.27 should work fine.
This would work, except that iTunes is by invite only. In other words, if your company wasn't in the room when all this was announced, you don't get to take part.
Wow, that's an old picture. I'm no fan of CDE/Openwindows, but it doesn't always look like this. On my Ultra 10, I run Solaris 9 and WindowMaker. Sitting at it, it's visually identical to my Linux machine. I even have BASH as the shell, same as on my Linux machine.
I typically run Solaris on my servers, and Linux on my workstations, with the exception of the Ultra 10.
I suppose I also need an HP-UX machine, for another OS and the PA-Risc chip.
I have a friend who worked with me at GE before they closed down our site, who happens to have 3 HP9000 servers. Beware: they're 7 or 8 feet tall and weight in at around 600lbs. BUT: they have two or three 20 disk RAID arrays, filled up with either 2GB or 4GB drives, and multi-gig of RAM (usually 1.5, but one I believe has 2GB). Contact me at taborj at xprt dot net if you're interested...
In addition, I think it also has something to do with Apple doing it first. To use an analogy, if Hyundai came out with a car that looked extremely similar to a Ferrari, I don't think it would have the same appeal. Partly because it's not a Ferrari, but also in part because it's an obvious knock-off, and anyone driving it would probably be ridculed.
I think the author went with Red Hat because it's one of the most widely used in business, which is also typically where Solaris is deployed. He didn't tweak either system at all, with the exception of installing the latest updates, because that's what your typical, non-Linux junkie sysadmin is going to do.
Having said that, I agree that not all distros are created equal, and that the results could have been far different (in either direction, mind -- he didn't tweak Solaris at all, either) had the author chosen a different distro.
But the author wasn't going for a "which seriously tuned system will win" type of comparison, just a "which system out of the box will win" type of comparison.
A database file system is quite accurately described as "The Holy Grail": it's an ancient mythological object of no practical value, something that only insane people would pursue.
I agree. My pastor at church described a situation where some Bhuddists found what they believed to be a peice of Bhudda's finger. They put it on display, and millions of Bhuddists from around the globe made the trek to see it.
But why? Did it solve their problems? Did it bring them closer to Bhudda? Not saying it isn't something that might be cool to see, and it may have even been inspiring to see all those people flocking to it, but the finger itself didn't provide any spiritual oneness.
I may be wrong, mind -- what do I know, really, of Bhuddism? Or filesystems, for that matter. What I do know is if Microsoft says it's the "Holy Grail", then they're arrogance has grown beyond belief...
The wealthiest half of the US population pays 96% of all taxes.
Off-topic, but one of the bosses here put out an article in our quarterly newsletter stating that the wealthiest 1% of the US pays more taxes than the bottom 50%. He even gave us some numbers.
Turns out, though, that the lowest portion of the bottom 1% make 11 times the amount of money as the bottom 50%, but only pay 9 times more in taxes.
In other words, if you took the bottom 50% and increased their salaries to be in the top 1%, but also left their tax rate the same, they'd be paying more taxes than the top 1% do currently.
It's not exactly the response the boss was looking for, especially since a decent portion of his employees are in the bottom 50%.
I have never heard of this day, much less celebrated it.
You're new here, aren't you?
With the current state of computing. It will take 10000 years and the energy of the Sun to decipher the carvings
Not to mention the fact that it's against the DMCA.
Oh, wait, they're not in the US. Carry on...
I like these lines from that story:
...first thought of Stonehenge's connection to women after noticing how some of the stones were smooth, while others were left rough.
"It must have taken enormous effort to smooth the stones,"
So, what he's saying is that women can be smooth (tame? pleasant to be around?) and/or rough (PMS? WTF?), and that it would take a huge effort to make them tolerable?
In other news, Dr. Perks' was beaten to death by 600 women in his neighborhood...
When we were in the planning stages of one of our new warehouses where I currently work, we made sure to add in that the electrical outlets be placed at desktop level. It's so much nicer, and nobody kicks the dang plugs.
Dang users...
I also like the headline on Apple's homepage - "Hell Froze Over!"
Right now, several geeks are jumping for joy, as they finally will get a date with that girl from school...
the Maximize button actually SHRINKS the jukebox window to a Winamp-sized player.
Actually, if you look at the icon you're clicking, it's not the maximize button. It's the 'restore' button -- ya know, the one built into the Windows API?
Thus, clicking it will togle it from full mode to small mode, the same as many other music apps out there.
When a magazine called "PC"World ...
Last I checked, PC meant 'Personal Computer', not 'x86 compatible computer.' Which makes my PDA a PC as well.
It just so happens that the rag PCWorld gets its major funding from companies that profit from x86 compatible computers. So, do you think they'll bash the hell out of the ones paying their paycheck in a most public way? No.
Basically it's the same old cross-platform benchmarking issue: each company tweaks their results to show themselves in a favorable light. That's how advertising works. You don't see Kia advertising themselves as a cheap, crappy little car that will rust or rattle itself to death in a few years, right? No, instead they advertise themselves as a reliable alternative to a Honda, Hyundai, Toyota, etc. And they may be right -- but you'll never know until you drop the coin to buy one and live with it for a while.
And that's the whole point.
My company uses Kronos and it interfaces via Ethernet directly into our AS400. Works just fine. We even set up a new system to allow some of our remote sales people to dial into a Windows 2000 server and punch in.
I suppose it all depends on the implementation...
I think my preacher put it best...
"If horoscopes were true, they'd be on the front page of the papers, not buried back by the funnies."
While this law was drawn for them...it's entirely possible that a far smaller car collector would benefit.
Indeed it has. Prior to the Subaru WRX coming to America, and prior to the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo coming here, one of the most popular cars in US SCCA ProRally was....
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. Eh? But it wasn't street legal, and as per the SCCA ProRally rules, all entrants have to have street legal cars. So how'd that work?
My point? The people bringing them in did one of a few things: They brought them in under this law, and hoped that they didn't run more than 2500 miles worth of rallies; they built them from parts starting with a base model Mitsubishi Mirage; or they did a little VIN swapping, all the while greasing the palms of those individuals at the docks.
Were these people super rich? No -- just had enough disposable income to have some fun. Did they benefit from this law? You betcha. Can you do the same? Sure -- for enough cash.
nobody wants to spend a few hundred grand to look like you're driving a box.
Really?
Are you sure?
I priced one up on MB's website, and it came in over $100k. Looks like a box to me!!
You can still find Robosport for the PC (where I played with it). Actually, I have it for the Windows machines. I'm not sure if it's still out there, but creative Google searching should yeild results. I found it on one of those lovely sites that keep archives of old discontinued games around for download. Illegally, I think. I totally forgot it was available for the Mac first. Now that I have one, I may have to see about finding that somewhere....
What a strange coincidence! The lab that Yoshiyuki Sankai works at shares his last name!! What are the odds?
I once had to do this to 18 SCSI disks once, after HP came in to "fix" the backplane of the 20 disk array in one of our HP9000 K-series servers. Apparently, the backplane they brought was wired wrong, and it sent a bit of voltage down the line, thus toasting the logic boards on every disk in the array (which they had replaced in the array prior to powering it up).
Needless to say, HP bought us 18 new SCSI disks...
That's funny -- I actually still have a working version of the Tandy Zoomer. Okay, mine is an AST Gridpad, but it's the exact same thing (my good friend had the Casio version). I have the serial cable to connect it to a PC, and the paralell cable to connect to a printer.
In reality, Graffiti released a version for the Zoomer/Gridpad. My friend had it on his, and gave it to me after his Zoomer died. I, unfortunately, don't have the disks anymore.
Wanna buy it?
I unfortunately don't have any other ideas to try, but I can tell you that it does work. I'm running 2.27 under OS X 10.2 on a B&W G3 400 with 512MB of RAM, and it loads quickly (less than 30 seconds), and is quite useable.
What version are you running? I haven't tried 2.28, so it could possibly be broken on OS X at the moment, but 2.27 should work fine.
This would work, except that iTunes is by invite only. In other words, if your company wasn't in the room when all this was announced, you don't get to take part.
Sorry...
Wow, that's an old picture. I'm no fan of CDE/Openwindows, but it doesn't always look like this. On my Ultra 10, I run Solaris 9 and WindowMaker. Sitting at it, it's visually identical to my Linux machine. I even have BASH as the shell, same as on my Linux machine.
I typically run Solaris on my servers, and Linux on my workstations, with the exception of the Ultra 10.
I suppose I also need an HP-UX machine, for another OS and the PA-Risc chip.
I have a friend who worked with me at GE before they closed down our site, who happens to have 3 HP9000 servers. Beware: they're 7 or 8 feet tall and weight in at around 600lbs. BUT: they have two or three 20 disk RAID arrays, filled up with either 2GB or 4GB drives, and multi-gig of RAM (usually 1.5, but one I believe has 2GB). Contact me at taborj at xprt dot net if you're interested...
In addition, I think it also has something to do with Apple doing it first. To use an analogy, if Hyundai came out with a car that looked extremely similar to a Ferrari, I don't think it would have the same appeal. Partly because it's not a Ferrari, but also in part because it's an obvious knock-off, and anyone driving it would probably be ridculed.
Just a thought.
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!!
Off topic, but try Ogle for a DVD player. Works great on my IBM Thinkpad 600E (PII 366) running RH 7.3