But the whole idea behind a presentation is to TALK! Use words to describe the topic. And if you need a graph that is to detail to show up clearly on the projector, then print it out and hand it out.
Thank you. That is dead right.
That a tool makes it easy to do something foolish does equate to that tool making you a fool.
There is a cultural perversion that leads people to think that bullet points and pie charts can substitute for well-formed arguments. One could argue that time spent trying to make a pretty slide show reduces time spent organizing cogent thought, or that the ease with which a slide tool allows one to dress up slim concepts and shallow ideas deludes the less-astute.
"Buy" something on Amazon for someone but don't have it delivered. Send them an "e-card" with a link to their "gift".
Next thing you know, people will buy ""virtual gifts": you'll get a credit of some value that you can redeem at some store. The gift-giver needn't worry about picking a particular item that may not be of value to the recipient, and the reipient has control over what to get.
What a great idea! I'll patent this myslef, and call it Gift Certificates!
I've seen plenty of superb applications coded in VB6 that you probably couldn't even grasp.
Obviously you must know all about me..:)
I picked VB6 on Windows because it seemed like a fair example of a non-OSS language + platform. (Even vb.net has an ISO standard beneath in it in the CLR.)
Aw! Never mind - you can just jump on the "VB SUCKS" bandwaggon without ever having really used it, or even tried to understand it.
Tried to understand it? I've co-written a bok about it. But you can believe what you want about me.
I 'm a software developer, I do commercial development for living. How is open source ideology better for ME ?
Welcome to the club.:)
OSS has allowed me to play with programs, languages, and IDEs that I could never touch if I had to pay for them.
Releasing OSS has given me experience and feedback that I could not get if somebody had to shell out for my time, while dictating what I was doing.
I'm a better software designer thanks to OSS, and this translates into better jobs (i.e. $$$).
I'm more productive and happier because I can use completely free and open language, such as Ruby. (Thanks, matz!)
Even if you only code in VB 6 on some flavor of Windows, you owe it to yourself as a developer to go poke around other languages and environemnts, and OSS is one big playground.
Too bad we're all too spineless to just not buy their products until they give us what WE want.
Speak for yourself.
But I understand your point. It's a problem when, for example, an EFF rep such as Cory Doctrow is also a big shill for Disney, hawking pretty much every eye-candy schlockfest they produce.
Here on/., every fifth article swoons over some new MPAA-backed product, or is filled with links to Amazon.com, all while we're told of the evils of DRM, software patents, and other forms of control.
Yes, I know, a foolish consistency, etc.; but when do you take a stand? When it's easy and convenient?
One of the first things I learned as a computer scientist was the impossibility of proving a piece of software "correct".
*Please* tell us where you learned this. Please. This is just too damned funny.
Granted, there are programs that defy formal proofs, but it's nonsense to say that *no* program can be proved correct.
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By itself, an xml file is just that, an xml file, it means absolutely NOTHING without context and definition. This is what DTD's do.
DTDs are but one way to do this. W3C schemas, RELAX NG, or simply a memo sent from me to ytou will also do the trick. DTDs are a good way to enforce contrants on an XML document, but a poor way to communicate among humans. None of these formats help convey much about semantics or appropriate use.
Anyway, you're confusing XML the syntax spec with specific markup language that use the XML syntax. And, as others have pointed out, there are respositories and directories for many of these languages, if you care to poke around a bit.
It doesn't. It uses Mozilla for the browser. There is no java component of the Java Desktop except for the JVM. Evolution is the email client. Gaim for IM. StarOffice is the office suite. Totem for A/V. And Gnome 2.4 w/ Nautilus for the Desktop.
Sun always seemed deeply concerned that others might dilute the Java(tm) brand by using the tradmark Java(tm) to refer to things that were not actually Java(tm). But I guess it's OK for Sun to do it. And I suppose this suggests that when Sun refers to something as being Java(tm), one should be very skeptical
Amazon requires that you supply your CC number before you can search.
Um, not at the moment. I did a few searches but gave the site no info on who I was. (I don't allow Amazon cookies, as a rule. I don't care to help them track my book browsing. Fuck 'em.) I certainly didn't give up a CC number.
it's ridiculous that Sun can't make some money from all the Java development that goes on.
Sun is primarily a hardware company. I think the plan was to make money selling the big iron neded to get Java apps to run well. "Cross platform" Java(tm) would make it easier for, say, NT users to build apps and then move to new hardware better suited for the CPU and memory requirements. Sadly for Sun, such hardware has become a commodity, so there's little reason to spring for Sparcs and whatnot.
For what software Sun offers, the rise of Linux has made it hard to justify the cost of Solaris.
Think of Java(tm) as a loss-leader. Except it lead to the use of better, cheaper products such as Linux and JBoss running on AMD boxes, rather than Sparcs running SunOS under massive licensing fees.
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Java is in the enterprise world since the introduction of J2EE..NET came after that.
Fine. Prior to J2EE was COM+ and MTS
Point being, very little of either J2EE or.Net was conjured out of thin air (the exceptions being the marketing bullshit from both sides).
Java(tm) is a prime example of a cribbing good ideas from existing languages and implemenations; it would be stupid not to. Why is this time-honored approached frowned on when MS does it?
Not really Richard Hell, since "blank" -- the word you've changed -- was his only contribution to that lyric. The rest goes back to Rod McKuen (or "the woeful Rod McKuen" to give him his full title), who wrote "I Belong To The Beat Generation"
Well, to be fair, there's a bit more to that. Hell would likely *enoy* people knowing where he cribbed from.
I would suggest that, whenever people write about or comment on such technology, they define the various initialisms, such as DRM or WRM, as Digital Restriction Managment or Windows Restriction Management.
We need to shift the discussion and not conceed the moral high ground. This is not about so-called digital rights, but about using technology to restrict options previously (and properly) available to the end user.
Ha, I do tech support for small companies, and the idiots I deal with still amaze me.
There are no doubt idiot users, but do you honestly think computers or software are actually easy to use and well designed? The slew of bullshit error messeges, cryptic geek-speak dialog boxes, and the unnaturally ridgid behavior all force users to adopt a completly foreign mindset.
I've done way too much tech support, and the best part of the job is the seeing the smile on somebody's face when you tell them that, really, they are not jerks, and that most software is designed to please computers, not people.
If you write software, please spend some time doing tech support. The quality of your work will greatly improve.
At least two years, as that's how long I've been doing this at home and my Windows box has yet to be owned.
Thank you. That is dead right.
That a tool makes it easy to do something foolish does equate to that tool making you a fool.
There is a cultural perversion that leads people to think that bullet points and pie charts can substitute for well-formed arguments. One could argue that time spent trying to make a pretty slide show reduces time spent organizing cogent thought, or that the ease with which a slide tool allows one to dress up slim concepts and shallow ideas deludes the less-astute.
But the trouble is with the person, not the tool.
Next thing you know, people will buy ""virtual gifts": you'll get a credit of some value that you can redeem at some store. The gift-giver needn't worry about picking a particular item that may not be of value to the recipient, and the reipient has control over what to get.
What a great idea! I'll patent this myslef, and call it Gift Certificates!
Right. Because they're massively in debt, and no one usese their products anymore.
I'm not arrogant.
I've seen plenty of superb applications coded in VB6 that you probably couldn't even grasp.Obviously you must know all about me ..:)
I picked VB6 on Windows because it seemed like a fair example of a non-OSS language + platform. (Even vb.net has an ISO standard beneath in it in the CLR.)
Aw! Never mind - you can just jump on the "VB SUCKS" bandwaggon without ever having really used it, or even tried to understand it.
Tried to understand it? I've co-written a bok about it. But you can believe what you want about me.
Welcome to the club. :)
OSS has allowed me to play with programs, languages, and IDEs that I could never touch if I had to pay for them.
Releasing OSS has given me experience and feedback that I could not get if somebody had to shell out for my time, while dictating what I was doing.
I'm a better software designer thanks to OSS, and this translates into better jobs (i.e. $$$).
I'm more productive and happier because I can use completely free and open language, such as Ruby. (Thanks, matz!)
Even if you only code in VB 6 on some flavor of Windows, you owe it to yourself as a developer to go poke around other languages and environemnts, and OSS is one big playground.
Speak for yourself.
But I understand your point. It's a problem when, for example, an EFF rep such as Cory Doctrow is also a big shill for Disney, hawking pretty much every eye-candy schlockfest they produce.
Here on /., every fifth article swoons over some new MPAA-backed product, or is filled with links to Amazon.com, all while we're told of the evils of DRM, software patents, and other forms of control.
Yes, I know, a foolish consistency, etc.; but when do you take a stand? When it's easy and convenient?
*Please* tell us where you learned this. Please. This is just too damned funny.
Granted, there are programs that defy formal proofs, but it's nonsense to say that *no* program can be proved correct.
DTDs are but one way to do this. W3C schemas, RELAX NG, or simply a memo sent from me to ytou will also do the trick. DTDs are a good way to enforce contrants on an XML document, but a poor way to communicate among humans. None of these formats help convey much about semantics or appropriate use.
Anyway, you're confusing XML the syntax spec with specific markup language that use the XML syntax. And, as others have pointed out, there are respositories and directories for many of these languages, if you care to poke around a bit.
Sun always seemed deeply concerned that others might dilute the Java(tm) brand by using the tradmark Java(tm) to refer to things that were not actually Java(tm). But I guess it's OK for Sun to do it. And I suppose this suggests that when Sun refers to something as being Java(tm), one should be very skeptical
Gee, thanks for the tip. Who'da thunk?
Prolog, Pascal, and Pike?
Um, not at the moment. I did a few searches but gave the site no info on who I was. (I don't allow Amazon cookies, as a rule. I don't care to help them track my book browsing. Fuck 'em.) I certainly didn't give up a CC number.
Copyright infringement != stealing
Copyright infringement != piracy
It's hard enough to discuss this without the bogus euphemisms and false comparisons.
Thank you. Weren't we supposed to have jini-enabled tosters and lawn furniture by now?
Sun is primarily a hardware company. I think the plan was to make money selling the big iron neded to get Java apps to run well. "Cross platform" Java(tm) would make it easier for, say, NT users to build apps and then move to new hardware better suited for the CPU and memory requirements. Sadly for Sun, such hardware has become a commodity, so there's little reason to spring for Sparcs and whatnot.
For what software Sun offers, the rise of Linux has made it hard to justify the cost of Solaris.
Think of Java(tm) as a loss-leader. Except it lead to the use of better, cheaper products such as Linux and JBoss running on AMD boxes, rather than Sparcs running SunOS under massive licensing fees.
Such is life.
Ah, but there is F#
Fine. Prior to J2EE was COM+ and MTS
Point being, very little of either J2EE or .Net was conjured out of thin air (the exceptions being the marketing bullshit from both sides).
Java(tm) is a prime example of a cribbing good ideas from existing languages and implemenations; it would be stupid not to. Why is this time-honored approached frowned on when MS does it?
Well, to be fair, there's a bit more to that. Hell would likely *enoy* people knowing where he cribbed from.
I would suggest that, whenever people write about or comment on such technology, they define the various initialisms, such as DRM or WRM, as Digital Restriction Managment or Windows Restriction Management.
We need to shift the discussion and not conceed the moral high ground. This is not about so-called digital rights, but about using technology to restrict options previously (and properly) available to the end user.
Sigh.
No, it doesn't.
Usage Nazi here to tell you that "begs the question" does *not* mean "prompts one to ask". It refers to particular flaw in logical reasoning.
Plus, help for the built-in library is available via the commandline tool ri
There are no doubt idiot users, but do you honestly think computers or software are actually easy to use and well designed? The slew of bullshit error messeges, cryptic geek-speak dialog boxes, and the unnaturally ridgid behavior all force users to adopt a completly foreign mindset.
I've done way too much tech support, and the best part of the job is the seeing the smile on somebody's face when you tell them that, really, they are not jerks, and that most software is designed to please computers, not people.
If you write software, please spend some time doing tech support. The quality of your work will greatly improve.
See here, please.