I keep reading this type of comment about the toxins that are created in making solar panels. This is true - like creating anything you are going to have crap left over that you don't want. This is the same thing that the gasoline companies are using to combat the rise of the EV.
But it is one hell of a lot easier to control the pollution at one source than it is to control the pollution at millions of sources.
I really wish people would quit falling for the crap the oil companies are spouting. We can all see through the MS fud with no problem, why can't we see through other fud?
There is a real audio interview with Ed Begley, Jr. over on EVworld and he brings up some things I found to be very interesting.
First, EV is a lot like the early VCRs, CD players etc. Everyone worried "are they going to stick around?" EV is in that stage right now. He pointed out that things like ebike.com are going to help turn consumers onto the idea of plugging in your vehicle when you get it home.
I am preparing to build an electric bike (note this is not going to be electric-assist). There is a cool one here.
Another place to check out is Esarati. They look pretty damn cool.
You have a small thing you are not taking into account here - market growth. More and more people are using linux every day. By the time 2002 rolls around, the market is going to be even bigger.
I did not say they did write it. I said it was part of the package.
If it was not for me installing Helix I would not even know that gnapster existed.
I also did not say that Helix was a better gnome. I said I liked the way it ran compared to KDE but that is more of an eye candy issue. Helix just looks better. The icons on the desktop are smooth around the edges and they just look professional - not like some of the icons in KDE that, to be honest, look like something you would find on a website of an AOLer. (KDE 2.0 has much better icons than they did in the 1.x series, so I know they are working on it and it is really looking sharp!)
I used Enlightenment about a year ago and found it to be very slow and CPU intensive. I did try it about 2 weeks ago and was impressed that it had progressed so much. It is really looking sharp. However, the themes that I have installed are not all that whoopie to me and I find the UI to just be kind of hard to use. That is me. I happen to like the general layout of Windows 9x - that is, with a panel at the bottom, a system tray, and icons on the desktop. KDE and Helix both have that in the themes they come with.
And yes, it is all eye candy no matter what you use. So?
Part of using anything is to have something nice to look at that stimulates the senses. People buy cars based on looks. People look through telescopes to see pretty things in the sky. Does that therefore mean that nothing can be learned while doing so? Hell no. So why is or should the UI I am using any different?
I did when I first started using Linux a while back. But I found it to just be slow as hell, so I switched to KDE. When I started using Helix a few weeks ago I tried E again just for the hell of it. Looks very good and it is tons faster than it used to be.
There are still some things I don't like, but those are the funky way the UI works, not performance issues.
I had honestly never heard of them until the blurb a few weeks ago on here about their admin tools they were working on.
I headed over, saw one screen shot, and thought it was the coolest looking thing I had seen. So I grabbed it. Then I grabbed it for my other boxen.
The thing is slick. It correctly shuts down the LCD on my laptop when the screen saver kicks in - unlike KDE which just turns the screen black but does not turn off the backlight. It has not crashed once on me. It comes with gnapster, which totally rocks. And it has the coolest install/updating method in existance.
Look around you. Your computer probably has an "Intel Inside" sticker. You probably have a magazine laying on your desk face down, so there is an ad blasting at you. You probably have Nike sneakers.
Go to the grocery store. Everywhere in there are ads. You can't even go to the checkout counter and use one of those bars to separate your food from the guy in front of you without seeing an ad. Go to the movies. Instead of seeing "coming attractions" you get commercials for websites, Coke, and cars.
You drive down the road and every 1000 feet there is a billboard of some sort blasting some product at you (here in Kansas City, they are closer than 1000').
Hell, you can't even visit a website without getting blasted by ads.
But you can do something about it. I have Junkbuster running (no ads!). I don't buy Nike (they make my feet hurt). I don't wear Levis (because their jeans fall apart 3 months after I get them).
Hell, I don't buy Microsoft products and I am surviving just fine, thank you very much. Why? Because I don't let advertising rule my life. I do something about it. I get very little junk mail. All it took was $3 worth of stamps and about an hour of my time to send off the already made letters they have on Junkbuster. It's simple, and amazingly effective.
These look like they may be reprints of some of his articles in Home Theater, or at least re-writes. If so they are well worth reading. When I used to get the mag his column was always the first thing I read.
It was really easy to do graphics this way, and was really ultra fast too.
I don't know how Commodore or Apple or anyone else did it (I can only assume they did the same thing) but it was a very simple matter of copying the character set in memory then changing all the characters to help make your image. Then just toss them up on the screen and viola! Instant image! Then by doing VBIs, you could make some really nice scrolling images. It was quite easy to do.
Of course there were problems - only 4 colors at a time (later to be 128, but still only 4 colors max on a line) and in high res mode you only had 2 colors but by changing the pixel's location you could use moire patterns to get 4.
However, there were some others that were that much as well. The game Firefox was that much to play, and so was another of the laserdisc games that was out (it was one where you were on a futuristic motorcycle and the track was displayed to you as video from the LD. I had a lot of fun with that one!).
I do remember that Electronic Games magazine way back then had lots of questions about "when will we all start paying $.50?" If you think about it, finding a $.25 game is worth it any more. Hell, it hasn't changed since Pong!
But, last time I went to the arcade they were $.50 minimum to play, and most were either $1 or some even $2. So, I just wander around the place and find the $.25 games. They are more fun anyway.
First off, what you are doing is impossible. Block all the words you want, you are still not going to stop it. Can you read Japanese? Neither can I, but I bet I will be able to go into your business and bring up a couple of hundred Japanese porn sites within 5 minutes.
Second off, don't sell out. You already know censorship is bad. Your "real world" thing boils down to this: "I have a job and I want to sell out so I can make butt loads of cash." That is all fine and good, but I really hope you are thinking long and hard about what you are doing here.
My solution to this "wash-n-surf" thing? Don't do it. You can't censor the net. It is already doomed to failure based on your criteria.
Yes, the bug is there per this one - but only 1/2 way, as it is only dealing with width=, not height= (unless I missed something in reading over it).
I have been submitting this bug to there since around March/April of 1999 that I know of for sure, and I am pretty sure I was submitting it way before then as well when I saw it break in Netscape, which is what prompted my comment in my original message.
Thanks for bringing this one to my attention though. It verifies I am not crazy.:)
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Please point out to me one place in this where it says I am not allowed to have height="100%" and width="100%" on an image:
Line 51, column 66:
... ages/ul.png" width="39" height="40">
Error: required attribute "ALT" not specified
Line 57, column 69:
... s/hor.png" width="100%" height="11">
Error: required attribute "ALT" not specified
Line 63, column 66:
... ages/ur.png" width="40" height="40">
Error: required attribute "ALT" not specified
Line 73, column 107:
... f" width="11" height="100%" border="0" align="top">
Error: required attribute "ALT" not specified
I am not arguing that the rest of the page does not have it's problems. I am arguing that height="100%" and width="100%" are legit and have not worked ever in Mozilla.
First, before anyone starts harping on me about "well, if you would submit the damn bug!" or "this is beta, so quit whining" or any other comments like that, forget it. I have heard 'em all before. I have submitted the same bug over and over. It never has made it into the bug database - why? Ya got me. I can't believe that I am incapable of submitting bugs and one would think that after submitting the same bug over and over (10 times at least) that at least one of them would have been submitted correctly. And the people at Netscape - I don't wanna hear "well you should join the project!" either. I've had it with this outfit.
So, here is what has me so riled up today. It all revolves around this page of mine. It uses width="100%" and height="100%" tags on images so that they create a border around the text. It is 100% legit HTML. Netscape 4.5+ has been broken when it comes to this - it all worked fine on versions previous to 4.5. Mozilla has been broken ever since it started. Mozilla used to work fine on the width tag, but now that is busted too.
I have M17 up on my Linux box. It is broken. M18 is broken. NS6PR2 is broken under Windows. I would have tried NS6PR2 under Linux, but I am not going to become root to run a web browser.
This is a joke and it is not worth my time to battle with it any more. Suck was right. It's time to toss it and move on to another project. Mozilla and Netscape are dead.
But there are some problems that I see right off the bat that need correcting - and they can be. But are they already?
The main problem, as I see it, is where to get the program information. There are places like Click TV that give really good program guides, but I would think the commercial outfits would get mighty pissed if I wrote something that repackaged their program guide. Is there a open TV listing system, like the Free CDDB is to CDDB?
I have a small project right now that I release code whenever I do something that merits a release - namely figuring out how to get something to work. Unfortunately I have not had a lot of time to work on it lately, but that is another matter.
When I got something that was in the "it kinda works" stage, I put it out there. Have had 40 downloads so far. Nobody has contributed or submitted bug fixes - probably because they are not sure what I am talking about - but I continue on.
However, the program I am working on is not anything that is mission critical and the specs are not going to really change in it over time. There are no databases or anything like that. Therefore I don't think I have too mucht to worry about if I did release "v0.00001" code.
While writing this comment I got to thinking - even if my program was mission critical and it did have a spec that could change, wouldn't releasing v0.00001 be a good thing? Doing that would be a great help in allowing others to pour over the design specs. Even releasing pseudocode would be nice at the early early stages.
10. How to install Linux/*BSD 9. Show them the proper methods of beard grooming 8. How to dress appropriately for any occassion with only jeans and a t-shirt. 7. Teach them to drink coffee - lots of it. 6. It's never too early to turn them on to cigarettes. 5. Give them a web connection to/. and teach them to hit reload every 2.5 minutes. 4. Get them turned on to Linux and teach them to make inane comments about how much KDE sucks if they like Gnome, and vise versa. 3. Make sure they never get to bed before midnight and make them get up at some ungodly hour. 2. Give all of them pagers and call them every few hours in the middle of the night and say "My computer has a message on it that says 'Press any key to continue.' What do I do now?" 1. Teach them how to be a BOFH!
First, you can look at these numbers two ways - either W2K is better -or- the productivity numbers come from it being worse. For example, "Since we installed W2K, our productivity has increased 5%. We have found that the web browser crashes so often our sales force spends 5% less time surfing the web."
These numbers are very meaningless to me. They remind me of ads for things like the Splitfire spark plug that "increases your gas mileage 15%!". Funny thing is that your gas mileage varies by 15% constantly. In other words, snake oil.
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I keep reading this type of comment about the toxins that are created in making solar panels. This is true - like creating anything you are going to have crap left over that you don't want. This is the same thing that the gasoline companies are using to combat the rise of the EV.
But it is one hell of a lot easier to control the pollution at one source than it is to control the pollution at millions of sources.
I really wish people would quit falling for the crap the oil companies are spouting. We can all see through the MS fud with no problem, why can't we see through other fud?
There is a real audio interview with Ed Begley, Jr. over on EVworld and he brings up some things I found to be very interesting.
First, EV is a lot like the early VCRs, CD players etc. Everyone worried "are they going to stick around?" EV is in that stage right now. He pointed out that things like ebike.com are going to help turn consumers onto the idea of plugging in your vehicle when you get it home.
I am preparing to build an electric bike (note this is not going to be electric-assist). There is a cool one here.
Another place to check out is Esarati. They look pretty damn cool.
You have a small thing you are not taking into account here - market growth. More and more people are using linux every day. By the time 2002 rolls around, the market is going to be even bigger.
I did not say they did write it. I said it was part of the package.
If it was not for me installing Helix I would not even know that gnapster existed.
I also did not say that Helix was a better gnome. I said I liked the way it ran compared to KDE but that is more of an eye candy issue. Helix just looks better. The icons on the desktop are smooth around the edges and they just look professional - not like some of the icons in KDE that, to be honest, look like something you would find on a website of an AOLer. (KDE 2.0 has much better icons than they did in the 1.x series, so I know they are working on it and it is really looking sharp!)
I used Enlightenment about a year ago and found it to be very slow and CPU intensive. I did try it about 2 weeks ago and was impressed that it had progressed so much. It is really looking sharp. However, the themes that I have installed are not all that whoopie to me and I find the UI to just be kind of hard to use. That is me. I happen to like the general layout of Windows 9x - that is, with a panel at the bottom, a system tray, and icons on the desktop. KDE and Helix both have that in the themes they come with.
And yes, it is all eye candy no matter what you use. So?
Part of using anything is to have something nice to look at that stimulates the senses. People buy cars based on looks. People look through telescopes to see pretty things in the sky. Does that therefore mean that nothing can be learned while doing so? Hell no. So why is or should the UI I am using any different?
I did when I first started using Linux a while back. But I found it to just be slow as hell, so I switched to KDE. When I started using Helix a few weeks ago I tried E again just for the hell of it. Looks very good and it is tons faster than it used to be.
There are still some things I don't like, but those are the funky way the UI works, not performance issues.
I had honestly never heard of them until the blurb a few weeks ago on here about their admin tools they were working on.
I headed over, saw one screen shot, and thought it was the coolest looking thing I had seen. So I grabbed it. Then I grabbed it for my other boxen.
The thing is slick. It correctly shuts down the LCD on my laptop when the screen saver kicks in - unlike KDE which just turns the screen black but does not turn off the backlight. It has not crashed once on me. It comes with gnapster, which totally rocks. And it has the coolest install/updating method in existance.
I love it.
Look around you. Your computer probably has an "Intel Inside" sticker. You probably have a magazine laying on your desk face down, so there is an ad blasting at you. You probably have Nike sneakers.
Go to the grocery store. Everywhere in there are ads. You can't even go to the checkout counter and use one of those bars to separate your food from the guy in front of you without seeing an ad. Go to the movies. Instead of seeing "coming attractions" you get commercials for websites, Coke, and cars.
You drive down the road and every 1000 feet there is a billboard of some sort blasting some product at you (here in Kansas City, they are closer than 1000').
Hell, you can't even visit a website without getting blasted by ads.
But you can do something about it. I have Junkbuster running (no ads!). I don't buy Nike (they make my feet hurt). I don't wear Levis (because their jeans fall apart 3 months after I get them).
Hell, I don't buy Microsoft products and I am surviving just fine, thank you very much. Why? Because I don't let advertising rule my life. I do something about it. I get very little junk mail. All it took was $3 worth of stamps and about an hour of my time to send off the already made letters they have on Junkbuster. It's simple, and amazingly effective.
These look like they may be reprints of some of his articles in Home Theater, or at least re-writes. If so they are well worth reading. When I used to get the mag his column was always the first thing I read.
It was really easy to do graphics this way, and was really ultra fast too.
I don't know how Commodore or Apple or anyone else did it (I can only assume they did the same thing) but it was a very simple matter of copying the character set in memory then changing all the characters to help make your image. Then just toss them up on the screen and viola! Instant image! Then by doing VBIs, you could make some really nice scrolling images. It was quite easy to do.
Of course there were problems - only 4 colors at a time (later to be 128, but still only 4 colors max on a line) and in high res mode you only had 2 colors but by changing the pixel's location you could use moire patterns to get 4.
was, I think, Dragon's Lair that was $.50 a play.
However, there were some others that were that much as well. The game Firefox was that much to play, and so was another of the laserdisc games that was out (it was one where you were on a futuristic motorcycle and the track was displayed to you as video from the LD. I had a lot of fun with that one!).
I do remember that Electronic Games magazine way back then had lots of questions about "when will we all start paying $.50?" If you think about it, finding a $.25 game is worth it any more. Hell, it hasn't changed since Pong!
But, last time I went to the arcade they were $.50 minimum to play, and most were either $1 or some even $2. So, I just wander around the place and find the $.25 games. They are more fun anyway.
emmett is gonna be accompanying.
Just what we need. A techno version of Lawrence Welk.
First off, what you are doing is impossible. Block all the words you want, you are still not going to stop it. Can you read Japanese? Neither can I, but I bet I will be able to go into your business and bring up a couple of hundred Japanese porn sites within 5 minutes.
Second off, don't sell out. You already know censorship is bad. Your "real world" thing boils down to this: "I have a job and I want to sell out so I can make butt loads of cash." That is all fine and good, but I really hope you are thinking long and hard about what you are doing here.
My solution to this "wash-n-surf" thing? Don't do it. You can't censor the net. It is already doomed to failure based on your criteria.
I was thinking they would probably send it to School of the Americas.
I signed up but as of this date I am still waiting for my PIN number.
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Unfortunately, no.
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Yes, the bug is there per this one - but only 1/2 way, as it is only dealing with width=, not height= (unless I missed something in reading over it).
I have been submitting this bug to there since around March/April of 1999 that I know of for sure, and I am pretty sure I was submitting it way before then as well when I saw it break in Netscape, which is what prompted my comment in my original message.
Thanks for bringing this one to my attention though. It verifies I am not crazy.
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Please point out to me one place in this where it says I am not allowed to have height="100%" and width="100%" on an image:
... ages/ul.png" width="39" height="40">
... s/hor.png" width="100%" height="11">
... ages/ur.png" width="40" height="40">
... f" width="11" height="100%" border="0" align="top">
Line 51, column 66:
Error: required attribute "ALT" not specified
Line 57, column 69:
Error: required attribute "ALT" not specified
Line 63, column 66:
Error: required attribute "ALT" not specified
Line 73, column 107:
Error: required attribute "ALT" not specified
I am not arguing that the rest of the page does not have it's problems. I am arguing that height="100%" and width="100%" are legit and have not worked ever in Mozilla.
First, before anyone starts harping on me about "well, if you would submit the damn bug!" or "this is beta, so quit whining" or any other comments like that, forget it. I have heard 'em all before. I have submitted the same bug over and over. It never has made it into the bug database - why? Ya got me. I can't believe that I am incapable of submitting bugs and one would think that after submitting the same bug over and over (10 times at least) that at least one of them would have been submitted correctly. And the people at Netscape - I don't wanna hear "well you should join the project!" either. I've had it with this outfit.
So, here is what has me so riled up today. It all revolves around this page of mine. It uses width="100%" and height="100%" tags on images so that they create a border around the text. It is 100% legit HTML. Netscape 4.5+ has been broken when it comes to this - it all worked fine on versions previous to 4.5. Mozilla has been broken ever since it started. Mozilla used to work fine on the width tag, but now that is busted too.
I have M17 up on my Linux box. It is broken. M18 is broken. NS6PR2 is broken under Windows. I would have tried NS6PR2 under Linux, but I am not going to become root to run a web browser.
This is a joke and it is not worth my time to battle with it any more. Suck was right. It's time to toss it and move on to another project. Mozilla and Netscape are dead.
I can handle a PDA running Linux. I can even handle a calculator running Linux. But a watch? What's next, a Linux powered hearing aid?
But there are some problems that I see right off the bat that need correcting - and they can be. But are they already?
The main problem, as I see it, is where to get the program information. There are places like Click TV that give really good program guides, but I would think the commercial outfits would get mighty pissed if I wrote something that repackaged their program guide. Is there a open TV listing system, like the Free CDDB is to CDDB?
I have a small project right now that I release code whenever I do something that merits a release - namely figuring out how to get something to work. Unfortunately I have not had a lot of time to work on it lately, but that is another matter.
When I got something that was in the "it kinda works" stage, I put it out there. Have had 40 downloads so far. Nobody has contributed or submitted bug fixes - probably because they are not sure what I am talking about - but I continue on.
However, the program I am working on is not anything that is mission critical and the specs are not going to really change in it over time. There are no databases or anything like that. Therefore I don't think I have too mucht to worry about if I did release "v0.00001" code.
While writing this comment I got to thinking - even if my program was mission critical and it did have a spec that could change, wouldn't releasing v0.00001 be a good thing? Doing that would be a great help in allowing others to pour over the design specs. Even releasing pseudocode would be nice at the early early stages.
10. How to install Linux/*BSD /. and teach them to hit reload every 2.5 minutes.
9. Show them the proper methods of beard grooming
8. How to dress appropriately for any occassion with only jeans and a t-shirt.
7. Teach them to drink coffee - lots of it.
6. It's never too early to turn them on to cigarettes.
5. Give them a web connection to
4. Get them turned on to Linux and teach them to make inane comments about how much KDE sucks if they like Gnome, and vise versa.
3. Make sure they never get to bed before midnight and make them get up at some ungodly hour.
2. Give all of them pagers and call them every few hours in the middle of the night and say "My computer has a message on it that says 'Press any key to continue.' What do I do now?"
1. Teach them how to be a BOFH!
First, you can look at these numbers two ways - either W2K is better -or- the productivity numbers come from it being worse. For example, "Since we installed W2K, our productivity has increased 5%. We have found that the web browser crashes so often our sales force spends 5% less time surfing the web."
These numbers are very meaningless to me. They remind me of ads for things like the Splitfire spark plug that "increases your gas mileage 15%!". Funny thing is that your gas mileage varies by 15% constantly. In other words, snake oil.
they are supposed to also be red in color and have two white knobs - one in each lower corner.