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Tivo Hacking A-OK - Says Tivo
s|eeper writes: "C|Net just posted an article about Tivo publicly stating that at this time, they have no problem with people hacking their Tivos to add more disk space."
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Has anyone heard of a cron job with a tv card recorder? What is this new crap, if you use linux and know anything, you have a TIVO if you have a TV card.
Also why are companies sunddenly under the impresion that even after I pay my money for goods they still have the write to tell me what to do with the stuff I just paid for? You don't go to wendy's and buy a sandwich and then have to pay them for the mustard to put on it. And they don't drive to you house and tell you that you can't share it with your friend or dog. Why to technical companies think they have the right to do this?
If I go buy one of their boxes, it's mine. That's what buying something means. If I want to smash it with hammer, that's my business and no one elses. And if I want to rip it's guts out and add a 34 terrabyte storage system, that's my business too.
Even the idea that TiVo could yield some control over this at all is somewhat troublesome, either from a legal or technical standpoint (although I don't know if they could do either). As time goes on, we see more and more companies trying to yield more control over the use of their products after they're bought and sold. Remember DIVX?
Smart appliances? Be very afraid. I fear the day will come that your toaster will report back to home base to say that you usually burn your toast, and because eating excessive ammounts of burnt foods can cause cancer, your insurance company won't pay for your treatment. (sorry, wandering a bit toward the edge of topic for this one)
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No it wouldn't. 99% of their users will not have the technical knowledge to hack their systems. You expect the common user to hook up the serial port and navigate a Linux shell? Even if there was a program that did everything automatically, you just had to plug in a cable, most users would still not do it.
Why would Tivo care anyway? Tivo makes their money on the subscriptions service and selling placement on their entertainment guide. As long as people don't expect tech support from Tivo for their modified boxes, Tivo probably would even encourage this sort of thing..
Now Phillips and Sony may not care for this too much...
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Doubtful, since Tivo doesn't actually sell the boxes...
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I wish I had the link, but here's what happened during the World Series:
Those banners on the wall weren't really there, or if they were there, they were different than what you say. They had a realtime substitution of other banners.
Basically what you think you're seeing on television ISN'T what you're seeing. And it's there, in the show, so yea..
Pretty subliminal to me, but I don't watch television, unless it's Blue's Clues with my son.
Same thing with Friends - they had an episode where a thing of Oreos sat on the counter - they weren't there during filming, they were added post process.
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Oh, come on. Give 'em a break. I mean, at least they didn't use hacker in the traditional media sense, i.e. $kr1p7 |<1dd13. Not only that, but I'm sure some of the, uh, more average readers are going to come away from this article confused ("Huh? Someone hacked TiVo? Damn computer geeks better not hack my TiVo... hmmm, maybe I should disconnect this phone line or something...")
In fact, I laud them for this article. They even get extra points from me for not adding a footnote or something explaining the difference between a hacker and a god damn rootshell brat cracker.
God, please tell me I'm not the only person in the world that remembers this...blipverts!
Remember the pilot episode of Max Headroom? Where they were testing out these little ultra-compressed two-second or so commercials they called "blipverts?" They worked, but they had a minor unpleasant side effect...namely, causing people to randomly explode.
But then again, I think that if I see another damned Old Navy commercial, my brain will explode anyway, so I doubt anyone would notice the difference. ^_^
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Hill comments that the ability to record TV shows via a PC and harddrive or CD-R "would cause some issues with the motion picture industry." Now I know that the MPAA and others have an ongoing history of trying to squash new technology, but why should the ability to record a TV show or movie with your PC be any different than recording with a VCR?
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The down side is this: People see this as an invitation to go the next step -- rip the TiVo code off the machine and build their own boxes(which TiVo probably won't care about, 'cause they're selling the service, not the box), the associated OEM's manufacturing the actual boxes see sales drop, get pissed off, and start suing (1) TiVo and (2) consumers, just because they have deep pockets.
Perhaps they will force the manufacturers to put in code that, upon hitting a commercial break, diables any fast-forwarding until the commercial break is over. This would be relatively easy to do if commercial codes were somehow encoded somewhere in an unused portion of the video signal.
I suppose this isn't impossible, if the "this is a commercial" signal were put in the vertical retrace area along with closed captioning and stuff, but then it would be easier for people to make VCRs that pause when they see that signal!
On the other hand, if they stuck in the signal for random 30 second intervals in the middle of TV shows, then the equipment would have to think twice about pausing recording. But that would only be a problem with tape-based systems. A disc-based system like Tivo can just back up when it detects a "commercial" of more than 2 minutes. Or it could let you decide for yourself (after all, humans are very good at deciding what is and is not a commercial) and use a "30 second skip" button. Which is what it does.
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Why would they care one way or the other? Their "Hollywood Investors" certainly aren't making money from hardware sales. If anything, the more people that upgrade their small 14-hour units to 50+ hour units, the more people that have available space for Hollywood's ads and movie trailers, things that are planned in the near future for the larger-capacity units. The only people I could see having a problem with these hacked units would be the hardware makers themselves, Philips and Sony. But since they're getting percentages of subscription money from Tivo, the bulk of their revenue flow isn't dependent on hardware sales.
This gives a lot of leverage to the media content providers, if they don't like a feature that JVC or TiVo adds to a product because it can hurt ad revenue then they can stop giving them access to the data. If ad revenue is significant enough.
It shifts the revenue stream for the media content providers, they can cut a profit from device manufacturers who want to show their movies and shows and will pay licenses to decrypt data, they can cut a profit from services who distribute their shows (satallite companies, cable companies, blockbuster, internet?) then they can cut a profit from subscriptions and then their is ad revenue. In this picture they have other sources and ads aren't 100% important, they also have leverage so they can pit the ad people against the TV manufacturers.
I'm working in this business on a product kind of like TiVo and there are tons of cool things you can do for the user, TV shows have ratings encoded, ads do not, you can easily write code to switch channels or PIP focus or pause the recording when a commercial comes on. We aren't doing that, in fact you didn't hear me suggest that it was technically possible.. MPEG files need to be protected too, if you don't protect them then you run the risk of having the movie studios and networks cut you off. The TiVO hack everyone wants (raw MPEG access and an ethernet port) will be the one the ends TiVO as we know it. Most likely scenario would be that the big players who have supported them will drop them. (Sony, don't think for a second that Sony needs TiVO, Sony is using them to quickly enter the market)
The foundation isn't in effect yet so the movie studios, networks, and powers that be (is this BOWLOLAM and not BOWLOMAG: Big org with lots of lawyers and money, not money and guns) can't really do anything to TiVO yet since they are somewhat independant of the process, in theory they could refuse to let them decrypt their data or worse (possibly sue them since they aren't protecting the copyrights?) in the near future if TiVO added commercial skipping features such that ad companies got pissed.
I predict that there will be no technology which will be popular and useful that will remove ads from the data stream any time in the near future. Skipping them with a WebTV or TiVO box that does digital recording will be kosher until the ad companies can detect a loss and then ad costs will go down, subscription costs will rise a little, and they'll just put more tricky stuff in like atvef triggers that kind of push the ad at the user. Ads are internet anyways, you can't even go to slashdot or linux.com without seeing ads, the mainstream corporate sites are filled with them and ads may eventually pull out of TV and go more into interactive TV and internet where they can target market that much better.
Also with the huge mega conglomerates taking over and invading, you have to question the value of ads on TV. Does IBM or Redhat get really anything from putting ads on MSNBC? Over the last few years some of the better news organizations (*cough*, ABC, *cough*) have shown that they aren't above the wishes of their owners (*cough* disney, *cough*) I can't remember seeing a Westinghouse ad on NBC(GE) anytime over the last 20 years or so. I think that medium is already shut off to certain groups of companies and products. It's better to get cokes can and BMWs visibly on screen with logo shown and perhaps a few words of dialog containing your trademark in the next James Bond movie than it is to place an ad on your competitor's network.
IOW, advertisers are tricky SOB's. I know that I get tired of manually skipping through ads, only to pause when the ad barrage sems to be over, only to be tricked and start skipping ads again. Yet after two or three of these episodes I start to get overly aggressive and I zip through ad and into the 1st or 2nd minute of a program alike. =(
So, in the system I picture, this measuring would be an averaging of the best/most accurate ad skippers and perhaps with a bow to Nielsen Ratings' like families, historically exceptionally accurate ad skippers (anonymously of course) can have their patterns given extraordinary weight in splining the the resulting advertisement-skipping average.
This is a long way of saying: I have a Tivo, I am sick of ads, I want to connect my Tivo to the Net, pipe my ad skipping patterns/usage to others out there like me, and collectively provide myself or others with an auto setting as a result that will let me/you sit there and set the thing on automatic-skip-ads automagically. =)
Good, bad? What do you think?
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Why would Hollywood care? What laws are being borken by recording tv shows?
This is exactly why we have countries other than the US. I don't consider it beyond the realm of possibility that the misguided government of the US would write such a law. Technology is advancing very fast right now; the government simply cannot keep up. The oppressive presence of the legal system in the US guarantees the victory of special interests in virtually every circumstance.
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Well, with the exception that the Tivo isn't an internet appliance and the WebTV isn't a digital video recorder. :)
Things may have changed, but isn't Ford the majority owner of Mazda anyway? I know that many parts are interchangable between the two makers (esp. Ranger/B Series)
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Both TiVo and ReplayTV offer placement on their 'recommendations' and 'themes' areas to media companies in order to point people toward their programs. I have ReplayTV and when you go to the "Sitcom" theme (a bad move in ANY case), you will find things weighted towards NBC. Fortunately, you don't HAVE to watch what the themes recommend and I have used the things three times in the last six months I've owned the box.
TiVo would not go out of business if people stopped paying for the subscriptions. TiVo MIGHT go out of business if the "big boys" of the industry decide that they are facilitating copyright infringement and send 100 of their beautifully attired mouthpieces to bury them in paperwork with a lawsuit.
I doubt that the TiVo management appreciates ANY of the hacking being done on their devices. Each step taken in that direction potentially costs them money, particularly the question of upgrades. $300 for a hard drive and installation? I certainly would never pay that much or let my family/friends pay that much, so TiVO probably really wants that money. Turn it into an MP3 player? That's money that Sony, Phillips and other hardware manufacturers may lose when they market their own component-grade MP3 hard-drive solutions.
I think we should wait until a more clearly "official" word comes from TiVo before we start sending the kudos flying too fast.
It seems like if they allow people to add HD space at their own discretion, this stands as yet another selling point for this product. Considering this, I wonder...
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If TIVO, and products like it, become more and more popular, will the very nature of advertising on television change as a result?
My friend owns one of those TIVO thingies, and it seems like he never watches any commercials at all... he just pre-records all his favorate shows, and then zips thru the ads with the 30 second-skip button. If it gets to the point where most viewers are using a service that allows them to do this, how will the networks change the format of ads in order to compensate? Will they place them during the shows themselves, or in the form of product placement?
Or will they simply revert to subliminal mind control techniques?
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Usually, they are fairly timely. Generally, the start time is stated time + N*30secs for additional commercials. Most programs also have a break after the theme song. It's very rare to have it start before the stated time.
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The main exception to this is the network channels that carry live sporting events will often keep the sporting event on if it runs overtime, even if it means clobbering the better shows that come on later
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geez. I would really be impressed if every word was a different link...
But there are some problems that I see right off the bat that need correcting - and they can be. But are they already?
The main problem, as I see it, is where to get the program information. There are places like Click TV that give really good program guides, but I would think the commercial outfits would get mighty pissed if I wrote something that repackaged their program guide. Is there a open TV listing system, like the Free CDDB is to CDDB?
Now I can download all of South Park and keep them onhand. =)
I wish the article would have pointed out how much storage was usually added. Oh well. Off to the site.
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I can see it now.... "b4ck in da day, me and my homies used to hack our TiVo's to increase it to 500 megs, JUST so we could keep all our facials pics." "y0 y0 dude true dat man, I mean, back when we waz king, it was all about the pron man, but now a days all the kidz be gots the wrong idea man, misusing the TiVo h4x for evil purposes, like beastiality!" "w3rd man w3 could reck doz foos tho, we be bust out those mad girl orgasm pics, then they'd know wh4t was up" "true true dude""we still are the kings tho, we wiiii fin' m0re xpl0itz to repr3sent the pr0n kiddi3 society, and keep our respect up, and cuz im runnIng out of room for my ebony pr0n" "4nd if you think of stepping on 0ur pr0n territory man, you going to get a face full of 20 inch oriental k0ckz man" "s0 back off all U w4nna be pr0n kidz, cuz you aint nothing like the original facial crew" "w0rd"
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Is it just me, or did C-Net build this story around a quote and an inference from a single Tivo representative (Rebecca Baer)?
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I'm glad Mr. Hill has no problem with people hacking Tivos, but he isn't a Tivo rep.
So.. Is there a better source on Tivo's perspective on the matter? After all, recent C-Net stories haven't exactly been fountains of indisputable and reliable information...
In the UK on two of our channels (itv and channel4) we have what are called cue dots in the corner of the screen which indicate that adverts are about to start... this could perhaps be used to chop adverts out all together.
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The other factor you could use to acknowledge advertising is that it is generally slightly louder than the original program. It will also usually have a higher range of frequencies since high frequencies carry more energy - making you pay more attention to the add (supposibly
are not going to like this one bit. TiVo's tune will change 180 degrees by the end of the next business day.
First off, the company could care less that someone is hacking their box. They make some money from the boxes and licensing, but the monthly fees are where it's at. ISPs, banks, computer manufacturers, etc. They all know that selling a product once isn't enough anymore to put the kids through college. Attention spans are too short and there are too many gadgets coming out to guarantee a repeat customer, so they have to keep people coming back, in the form of monthly service contracts. Commitments. Screw with the monthlies (ie, the program guides) and you'll have a ton of brick legal department to deal with.
Now, having said that, the TiVo people are very willing to either officially or unofficially condone hacking on their boxes. They can't necessarily support the hacks, but what they're really saying is "We know it's happening, and unlike Netpliance we are not going to start shipping TiVo boxes with gooed insides and other changes to try to prevent these hacks. However, we can't be spending the time to make sure our upcoming OS releases will allow your hacks to keep working, but we're not doing it on purpose." What isn't there to get? It's not rocket surgery.
As far as the potential for the TiVo; since it's running Linux, I'd love to see a way to transfer recorded shows to another box and store it on CD etc. I'd like to set up my PC to take those Simpsons and X-Files episodes and burn them to a VCD, or whatever. Television episodes are freely available online already (I missed the first season finale of Futurama, so I went on IRC and was able to download it and view it. Picture sucked, but I got the majority of the experience) and this will make it even easier.
I think a closer parallel would be:
You buy a Ford, rip out the engine and replace it with a Studebaker engine with more HP. A few months later, something goes wrong so you return to the shop expecting a warrantee repair. The mechanic's a nice guy and a bit of a Studebaker hacker, so he fixes it anyhow (or maybe he tries and fails), but you posted how to replace the engine on the net and now there's a line of 50 Fords with Studebaker engines all suffering some problem hoping for a repair. This mean's Ford has several options:
-Agree to fix Studebaker engines, which means working a deal with Studebaker for parts (which wont be nearly as cheap as Ford parts) and sending all the mechanics to Studebaker school. Not cheap in the short run, not cheap in the long run.
-Ignore these customers and state "We don't fix modified Fords" to stop people sending modified units back, incurring the wrath of the customer base.
-Accept modified units but charge out-of-warrantee repair fees. This works fine until someone puts a Mazda turbo on the Studebaker engine and posts results to the net. Suddenly, Ford has to send all mechanics to Studebaker AND Mazda school (and narrows hiring choices to mechanics who know Ford, Studebaker, and Mazda, which are very scarce in Silicon Valley and want premium cash & stock options) and negotiate parts deals with Mazda. This becomes a never-ending cycle and results in high repair fees and Ford spending a lot more energy on repairs and a lot less on making new cars (which again incurs the wrath of the customer base because Ford "isn't spending enough energy innovating").
Or worse yet, Ford comes out with a free chip upgrade that adds tons of HP and drives fuel economy down more than any upgrade that the hackers have been doing, but doesn't work with the now-wimpy Studebaker engines, so now everyone is in a huff because Ford's not supporting the innovators (or as most customers will say "screwing over the hackers") and they're left with weaker machines than if they'd just left the hood down in the first place.
Geek hacks TiVo, adds features, makes it better, makes it GPL. TiVo likes mods, adds them to next version, everybody benefits. I'm waiting for my RAIDed, mp3 playing, networkable, quake playing TiVo. Seeya WebTV!
I am glad to see that some people are willing to be reasonable. It is true that those who decide to experiment and tinker with the world around them, can indeed live in harmony with those who choose not to.
Let's hope that this attitude continues when someone finds away to store their now decrypted DVD files [thanks to DeCSS] on their modified TIVO box [with the extra 80Gig IDE hard drive].
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Oh grow up, these hackers aren't hurting anything or anyone. There not making there own TiVo's and they are still paying the TiVo monthly subscription. They are just trying to improve there property
This is really stretching the definetion.
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When I tried to do a search to find out about TiVo on MSNBC, I got these results.
AOL's epic aim: to slay Microsoft
http://www.msnbc.com/news/280218.asp
The golden fleece that America Online, Sun Microsystems and Netscape are chasing is nothing less than developing the dominant computing platform -- one that makes Microsoft's Windows irrelevant.
Harvard, MIT fight Microsoft over research about Netscape
http://www.msnbc.com/news/200480.asp
Harvard and Massachusetts Institute of Technology are fighting a demand from Microsoft for two professors' research on Netscape. Separately, Microsoft released some evidence it will use in the antitrust case, revealing a likely legal strategy.
Microsoft says it violated no antitrust laws
http://www.msnbc.com/news/359094.asp
Microsoft on Tuesday said that despite a court's finding that it holds monopoly power, the evidence presented against it during the government's antitrust case doesn't add up to illegal behavior. By Brock N. Meeks
Microsoft hopes to use book to show it won browser battle fairly
http://www.msnbc.com/news/204337.asp
A forthcoming book by a couple of literary unknowns is about to get extraordinary publicity in the Microsoft Corp. antitrust trial
How pathetic is this, that they're obviously trying to put pro-MS articles in non relevant search results? ughhh I can't find anything on the web without getting a dick full of prop-o-ganda!
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It would be a very bad PR move for TiVo to forbid hacking in their contracts. I'm glad they don't seem to mind - I'm interested in getting one for myself at some point.
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Maybe I am not a big enough geek, but I don't see why this is /. worthy. Assume for the moment that TiVo did have an anti-hacking rule... ok, don't buy TiVos... there's no reason to buy one and then bitch about it. Oh well....
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Don't you think they get a percentage of the profits from the sales of Sony/Philips units?
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The download format of TiVo's guide data download is not open. It is proprietary. If someone were to crack this and start offering a competing server for TiVo's existing clients, TiVo would surely respond with increased security; subscription revenue is the only way they get a return on writing the client software.
In the US, programs usually start on time, although there are notable exceptions. Version 2.0 of the TiVo software will allow you to specify an automatic pre and post padding to recordings of programs, i.e. always start recording X-Files one minute early and end one minute late.
The networks don't give TiVo any information about advertisements, but TiVo really doesn't need this information. It records the ads and then allows you to fast-forward through them at up to 60x. When you exit FF, it does an automatic skip-back to compensate for your reaction time, usually leaving you within a few seconds of where you wanted to be.
Stripping ads automatically poses two problems. (1) Ad stripping isn't 100% accurate, so you'd likely miss some of your program; (2) the networks would sue them.
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Of course Tivo says its okay to hack their machines... that way, they can SELL YOU A NEW ONE WHEN YOU VOID THE WARRANTY!
Hell, they'd probably help you break it open!
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While that may be a motivation for Philips and Sony, TiVo has no such incentive. They don't care whether you replace your unit with another one or not. All they care about is whether you maintain your subscription. I imagine that the primary reason it is hard to add a drive is that they simply didn't spend any time making it easy since it isn't supposed to be user-upgradeable. The exposed power supply in the unit would raise interesting legal liabilities if there were an officially sanctioned means to allow end-user upgrades. /jab
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Buy a TiVo, you are paying your own money... you decide to tinker with it... why would the TiVo folks have any say in the matter? Don't you buy a TiVo? You aren't renting it, correct? I don't see why TiVo would have any stance on this. It would be like Ford saying, "We don't have any problem with people changing their own oil filters." That being said, why again is this news?
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Does reinstating apartheid involve TiVo somehow?
I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.
Tivo might be better than webTV because it CAN be hacked.
Isn't it somewhat disheartening that a company has to come out and publicly give their blessing for people to tinker with what they own? Yes, I know Tivo couldn't stop people from hacking up their products even if they were so inclined, but this should be implicit. If you bought it, you own it and can do whatever the hell you want to it and no company anywhere or anytime should be able to say anything about it except that you've voided the warranty.
Hackers don't upset TiVo--yet
If you build it, they will hack.
The latest company to face hacking is TiVo,...
Hacking has become a big issue for makers of devices...
hackers found a way to turn Netpliance's I-opener...
Unlike the well-publicized Netpliance hack...
There are people out there that will hack into anything...
While the current hacking apparently is not of much concern to TiVo...
Hmmm, the article doesn't use the word innovate.
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A good solid attempt at a troll. Pay attention, kids, this is how it should be done.
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I really dont think they should make it so hard to add a second drive or upgrade the existing drive. I guess they do this to make an average user buy an upgraded unit just for more space.
Thanks in advance to anyone taking out the time to answer me.
This is why I like Kuro5hin.org so much... There the users decide if a story gets posted or not... If only it was back up... :-(
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Can I download a recording of someone actually good playing Quake, and then play it back and pass it off as me?
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