> The true value in a recording contract for an
> artist will lie not in the sale of music, but in
> the sale of his/her image.
Well, DUH. This is already happening. Do you think the average kid buys the latest $MTV_IDOL CD because they enjoy the music? How many musical acts in the past 20 years have become sucessful without a visual hook? I can think of a handful such as Phish, but by and large they are the exception and not the rule.
Which do you remember about Flock Of Seagulls -- their music, or their haircuts? Image is what the record companies are in the business of selling. They don't write music, they don't perform music. They just work the Marketing Machine.
Huh? Command-line interfaces don't teach how a computer "really" works, either. Specifying a filename as a command-line argument isn't intrinsically any more insightful than dragging an icon onto a window, even if you and I both prefer working that way.
The public school computer education I got 10 years ago consisted half of outdated history of computing lessons (there are 4 kinds of computers; micro, mini, mainframe, and super) and half programming "Hello World" in BASIC. Is it still like that today, or do kids just learn how to type a letter in MS Word and make a simple web page?
Remember, the average teen today might not be as computer-literate as the geek of yesterday, but the GEEK of today is at LEAST as literate.
I'm nearly certain the OldSk00l plugin for Winamp doesn't set the default channel panning correctly.
It's been several years since I've tracked any MODs, but ISTR channels 1+4 being panned left, and 2+3 panned right. OldSk00l appears to pan 1+2 left and 3+4 right, which is wrong wrong wrong.
If Officer Friendly misidentifies me as a wanted felon, if the case proceeds to trial I'll get to examine him on the witnes stand and test his powers of face-matching.
What the damn hell are you talking about? You jumped over the part where the police question you , determine you're not the man they're looking for, and let you go. You know, like what happened to the guy in the story that was submitted. In your little fantasy world, police officers pick people out of the crowd (at gunpoint) and immediately whisk them away to court to be tried for their crimes.
No District Attorney in America will proceed with a prosecution if the only proof they have of your guilt is that you bear a facial resemblance to the suspect in the crime.
Once again, Slash-holes are making mountains out of molehills. NO ONE is claiming that these cameras identify criminals with 100% unquestionable accuracy. All they do is make it easier for authorities to identify where criminals MIGHT be.
If there's a serial killer on the loose who looks just like me, I WANT the police to question me so I can prove I'm not him. And although it might be inconvenient, I don't mind if it happens more than once.
Yeah, because 'Embrace - Extend - Extinguish' is exactly what Microsoft did with the BSD TCP/IP Stack, right? They built on an academic work and used their huge marketing force to crush anyone else who tried to use TCP/IP. This is why the only computers on the Internet right now are using Microsoft operating systems!
No, wait, that didn't happen at all. Maybe this is just another case of Slash-holes overreacting and reading into Mundie's comments a meaning that isn't there...?
Congress should pass a law that half of all future taxpayer funded PC purchases will come with a non Microsoft OS.
My god, that's the most ridiculous suggestion I've ever heard. If I were a Congressman I'd vote for a flag-burning amendment before I voted for a law that mandated something so inane as what you've suggested..
What happens when Microsoft's dominance in the OS field slips? Hypothetically, let's say that in 2011 Linux has gained an 80% share of the market.
Thanks to your "law", taxpayer-funded agencies will be forced to buy Microsoft OSes for half their machines, even if they don't want to. Your plan would keep Microsoft in business forever, because if MS went under any agency that bought computers would be BREAKING THE LAW.
1. OS Monopoly countermeasure: uniform
licencing. MS may offer one version of its OS at
one price. No sale may be refused. OEMs may make any noninfringing value added modification they choose.
Congratulations, you've just overturned the most basic tenets of contract law.
2. Java countermeasure: MS must bundle Sun's version of Java and any java related extras
desired by Sun.
Also, Coca-Cola must include one can of Pepsi in every six-pack it sells, and optionally a can of Mountain Dew if Pepsico desires.
If Browser bundling is found to be anticompetitive on remand, force MS to distrubute Netscape and Opera.
And Mozilla and Lynx32 and Grail and Amaya and Cello and Winamp's mini-browser...
You whine that Slashdot isn't what you want it to be, then you provide a list of sites that ARE what you wish Slashdot was.
Good. Go to those sites and stay there.
Slashdot's tagline is not "Protest organization for nerds. Stuff that's political advocacy." The editors who have no obligation whatsoever to promote whatever agenda you think is important.
A common fallacy is that all Slashdot readers share a "common mindset". We're all professional sysadmins who run nothing but Linux and play Q3A all day and night, right? Of course not. Why do you think the entire/. population feels that same as you on this issue as well?
The majority of the "community" consists of mindless drones who want to throw diplomacy out the window because they think it'd be more fun to hold up signs and chant slogans.
Until someone can provide me with proof otherwise, I am going to assume that the Electronic Frontier Foundation has a better plan for Making Everything Right than any other protest organizers. I'm throwing my support behind the EFF, and if you want anything to get done you should too.
commingled with those MSIE DLL functions
were general-use functions that the other software took advantage of
This practice I don't really have a problem with. It makes sense to have a function like renderTable() or whatever that can be called from MSIE or Excel or any other application that needs to beable to render a table. In a way, that means the DLL functions originally written for MSIE become general-use functions, and I can see a practical benefit for both developers and consumers deriving from such a practice.
and Microsoft would not allow people to install just the DLL's required.
This is the part I do have a problem with. Just because I want to use renderTable() in my little Windows program doesn't mean that 90% of a fully-functional Web browser should be loaded into memory on my system.
Disclaimer: I am not a programmer. Doubly so not a Windows programmer.
Taking this argument to its logical conclusion, every function should be in its own DLL file. That way, you only load the EXACT set of functions you need to call!
If your goal is to create a backlash against this "evil hacker" who cost the stockholders "irreparable damage to potential revenue streams", your plan makes sense. If your goal is to create a backlash against Adobe themselves, you are a clueless Slash-hole.
So Global Warming is real, and has human activity as its cause. I don't dispute that. There's a larger leap of logic than you think between that assertion and the assertion that "Global Warming will destroy the Earth and we must reverse it NOW".
I believe it was Love & Rockets that said "You can't go against Nature, 'cause if you do go against Nature, that's a part of Nature too." When did we get the foolish idea that humans had a responsibility to leave things the same way we found them?
It is my contention that his personal goals and the mission of his company were not in conflict
It is my contention that you're a jackass. The duties of system administrators are to support computer systems, so that people can use them, not to participate in research (with the possible exception of research directly related to supporting the systems, e.g. setting up a dev box to test a new version of some software package).
The fact that this guy had root on these boxes is irrelevant. The fact that this guy worked at an academic institution is irrelevant. Actually, most of the facts you bring up are irrelevant.
Bottom Line: This guy used widespread company resources for a purpose not explicitly related to his job duties, and in doing so created a potential security violation. Does he deserve to be fined millions of dollars and spend the rest of his life in jail because of it? I would say no. But you seem to be stubbornly insisting that he did nothing wrong in the first place, and that is the basis of my contention that you're a jackass.
You may not treat making money as a priority, but businesses do. In fact, they HAVE to. See any of the hundreds of dot-bombs littering the landscape to see what happens to companies who set having fun, changing the world, making-love-to-your-wife, etc as higher priorities than making a profit.
If you break the law and you get caught due to these cameras, don't whine about how unfair it is that you didn't get away with your crime. Instead, pay your fine and learn not to break the law in the future.
They could become the object of harrassment and search warrants, all "justified" because they were caught on camera throwing a chewing gum wrapper upon the sidewalk.
You must think every person in the judicial system is an idiot.
Buy yourself a target air rifle, not a cheap one, but a good one with a nice scope. You can
easily find angles to hit the camera without being easily seen by the camera. Shoot said camera out
Wait... you think shooting an AIR RIFLE is a NONVIOLENT APPROACH? Do you people even READ what you post?
Destroying police property is a crime, and shooting an air rifle in a residential most likely is a crime in your area as well. Don't be an idiot.
Seriously -- practices like this are becoming far too acceptable by the general public. Why?
Maybe its because practices like this are acceptable to the general public...? Don't assume that just because Joe Schmoe isn't outraged like you are, doesn't mean that he hasn't evaluated the situation and made up his mind about its acceptability.
It seems more technology means the 'cops' of cops and robbers get the upperhand.
Why would this be a bad thing? Fighting crime is not a 'Gentleman's Game' that would should be trying to keep the playing field even for. Any rational person should be rooting for the Cops to win.
I guess the rest of us will care when they start documenting where we go in Tampa. i.e. "Mr.
Neal went to a strip club last night on Ocean Blvd. - let's follow him for a few days."
Grow the hell up -- the police have far more important things to worry about than tracking some random nobody who went to a legal entertainment venue. That's true today and it will always be true.
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Help me out here, Hobbex. I can't figure out whether you're pro-supermarket or anti-supermarket.
I also can't figure out how morons don't know the difference between "lose" and "loose".
> The true value in a recording contract for an
> artist will lie not in the sale of music, but in
> the sale of his/her image.
Well, DUH. This is already happening. Do you think the average kid buys the latest $MTV_IDOL CD because they enjoy the music? How many musical acts in the past 20 years have become sucessful without a visual hook? I can think of a handful such as Phish, but by and large they are the exception and not the rule.
Which do you remember about Flock Of Seagulls -- their music, or their haircuts? Image is what the record companies are in the business of selling. They don't write music, they don't perform music. They just work the Marketing Machine.
-Poot
Huh? Command-line interfaces don't teach how a computer "really" works, either. Specifying a filename as a command-line argument isn't intrinsically any more insightful than dragging an icon onto a window, even if you and I both prefer working that way.
The public school computer education I got 10 years ago consisted half of outdated history of computing lessons (there are 4 kinds of computers; micro, mini, mainframe, and super) and half programming "Hello World" in BASIC. Is it still like that today, or do kids just learn how to type a letter in MS Word and make a simple web page?
Remember, the average teen today might not be as computer-literate as the geek of yesterday, but the GEEK of today is at LEAST as literate.
> ... but also make sure you refer to Microsoft
> BSD/Windows.
I wackyparsed that as "BSOD/Windows", which made just as much sense.
-Poot
I'm nearly certain the OldSk00l plugin for Winamp doesn't set the default channel panning correctly.
It's been several years since I've tracked any MODs, but ISTR channels 1+4 being panned left, and 2+3 panned right. OldSk00l appears to pan 1+2 left and 3+4 right, which is wrong wrong wrong.
What the damn hell are you talking about? You jumped over the part where the police question you , determine you're not the man they're looking for, and let you go. You know, like what happened to the guy in the story that was submitted. In your little fantasy world, police officers pick people out of the crowd (at gunpoint) and immediately whisk them away to court to be tried for their crimes.
No District Attorney in America will proceed with a prosecution if the only proof they have of your guilt is that you bear a facial resemblance to the suspect in the crime.
Once again, Slash-holes are making mountains out of molehills. NO ONE is claiming that these cameras identify criminals with 100% unquestionable accuracy. All they do is make it easier for authorities to identify where criminals MIGHT be.
If there's a serial killer on the loose who looks just like me, I WANT the police to question me so I can prove I'm not him. And although it might be inconvenient, I don't mind if it happens more than once.
-Poot
But Microsoft isn't selling Jack Poop to Compaq or AOL -- they're LICENSING.
Yeah, because 'Embrace - Extend - Extinguish' is exactly what Microsoft did with the BSD TCP/IP Stack, right? They built on an academic work and used their huge marketing force to crush anyone else who tried to use TCP/IP. This is why the only computers on the Internet right now are using Microsoft operating systems!
No, wait, that didn't happen at all. Maybe this is just another case of Slash-holes overreacting and reading into Mundie's comments a meaning that isn't there...?
Then it's not a martini anymore! It's a Gibson.
AOLTW sold World Championship Wrestling to WWFE Inc. months ago.
Also, Demolition lost the tag titles.
My god, that's the most ridiculous suggestion I've ever heard. If I were a Congressman I'd vote for a flag-burning amendment before I voted for a law that mandated something so inane as what you've suggested..
What happens when Microsoft's dominance in the OS field slips? Hypothetically, let's say that in 2011 Linux has gained an 80% share of the market. Thanks to your "law", taxpayer-funded agencies will be forced to buy Microsoft OSes for half their machines, even if they don't want to. Your plan would keep Microsoft in business forever, because if MS went under any agency that bought computers would be BREAKING THE LAW.
1. OS Monopoly countermeasure: uniform licencing. MS may offer one version of its OS at one price. No sale may be refused. OEMs may make any noninfringing value added modification they choose.
Congratulations, you've just overturned the most basic tenets of contract law.
2. Java countermeasure: MS must bundle Sun's version of Java and any java related extras desired by Sun.
Also, Coca-Cola must include one can of Pepsi in every six-pack it sells, and optionally a can of Mountain Dew if Pepsico desires.
If Browser bundling is found to be anticompetitive on remand, force MS to distrubute Netscape and Opera.
And Mozilla and Lynx32 and Grail and Amaya and Cello and Winamp's mini-browser...
Simple.
Yes, you are.
I don't want an email client to have the authority to create user accounts on my system! That's absurd.
Watch as a new Outlook virus gets unleashed that exploits Outlook's abilities and creates 100's of dummy accounts per second on every Winbox...
You whine that Slashdot isn't what you want it to be, then you provide a list of sites that ARE what you wish Slashdot was.
/. population feels that same as you on this issue as well?
Good. Go to those sites and stay there.
Slashdot's tagline is not "Protest organization for nerds. Stuff that's political advocacy." The editors who have no obligation whatsoever to promote whatever agenda you think is important.
A common fallacy is that all Slashdot readers share a "common mindset". We're all professional sysadmins who run nothing but Linux and play Q3A all day and night, right? Of course not. Why do you think the entire
The majority of the "community" consists of mindless drones who want to throw diplomacy out the window because they think it'd be more fun to hold up signs and chant slogans.
Until someone can provide me with proof otherwise, I am going to assume that the Electronic Frontier Foundation has a better plan for Making Everything Right than any other protest organizers. I'm throwing my support behind the EFF, and if you want anything to get done you should too.
United we stand blah blah blah.
-Poot
This practice I don't really have a problem with. It makes sense to have a function like renderTable() or whatever that can be called from MSIE or Excel or any other application that needs to beable to render a table. In a way, that means the DLL functions originally written for MSIE become general-use functions, and I can see a practical benefit for both developers and consumers deriving from such a practice.
and Microsoft would not allow people to install just the DLL's required.
This is the part I do have a problem with. Just because I want to use renderTable() in my little Windows program doesn't mean that 90% of a fully-functional Web browser should be loaded into memory on my system.
Disclaimer: I am not a programmer. Doubly so not a Windows programmer.
Taking this argument to its logical conclusion, every function should be in its own DLL file. That way, you only load the EXACT set of functions you need to call!
If your goal is to create a backlash against this "evil hacker" who cost the stockholders "irreparable damage to potential revenue streams", your plan makes sense. If your goal is to create a backlash against Adobe themselves, you are a clueless Slash-hole.
You missed the point, Slash-hole.
So Global Warming is real, and has human activity as its cause. I don't dispute that. There's a larger leap of logic than you think between that assertion and the assertion that "Global Warming will destroy the Earth and we must reverse it NOW".
I believe it was Love & Rockets that said "You can't go against Nature, 'cause if you do go against Nature, that's a part of Nature too." When did we get the foolish idea that humans had a responsibility to leave things the same way we found them?
It is my contention that you're a jackass. The duties of system administrators are to support computer systems, so that people can use them, not to participate in research (with the possible exception of research directly related to supporting the systems, e.g. setting up a dev box to test a new version of some software package).
The fact that this guy had root on these boxes is irrelevant. The fact that this guy worked at an academic institution is irrelevant. Actually, most of the facts you bring up are irrelevant.
Bottom Line: This guy used widespread company resources for a purpose not explicitly related to his job duties, and in doing so created a potential security violation. Does he deserve to be fined millions of dollars and spend the rest of his life in jail because of it? I would say no. But you seem to be stubbornly insisting that he did nothing wrong in the first place, and that is the basis of my contention that you're a jackass.
-Poot
Yeah, but you're a human, not a business.
You may not treat making money as a priority, but businesses do. In fact, they HAVE to. See any of the hundreds of dot-bombs littering the landscape to see what happens to companies who set having fun, changing the world, making-love-to-your-wife, etc as higher priorities than making a profit.
No, but they should be.
If you break the law and you get caught due to these cameras, don't whine about how unfair it is that you didn't get away with your crime. Instead, pay your fine and learn not to break the law in the future.
They could become the object of harrassment and search warrants, all "justified" because they were caught on camera throwing a chewing gum wrapper upon the sidewalk.
You must think every person in the judicial system is an idiot.
Wait... you think shooting an AIR RIFLE is a NONVIOLENT APPROACH? Do you people even READ what you post?
Destroying police property is a crime, and shooting an air rifle in a residential most likely is a crime in your area as well. Don't be an idiot.
-Poot
Maybe its because practices like this are acceptable to the general public...? Don't assume that just because Joe Schmoe isn't outraged like you are, doesn't mean that he hasn't evaluated the situation and made up his mind about its acceptability.
Why would this be a bad thing? Fighting crime is not a 'Gentleman's Game' that would should be trying to keep the playing field even for. Any rational person should be rooting for the Cops to win.
I guess the rest of us will care when they start documenting where we go in Tampa. i.e. "Mr. Neal went to a strip club last night on Ocean Blvd. - let's follow him for a few days."
Grow the hell up -- the police have far more important things to worry about than tracking some random nobody who went to a legal entertainment venue. That's true today and it will always be true.
-Poot