minimum requirements you knew what they asked for, some Icon is totally useless if no one knows what it means, and they did they had to know the system requirements in the first place to chart their pc to the mpc level.
your right, I design hardware, I will leave the code monkeys to breaking something thats already half broken in the first place, its only software, fire up the fucking text editor and fix it... not like you just spent thousands of dollars on a simple mistake, which is common in hardware.
or in otherwords, cry me a river, and grow up Linus, the only thing you lost is time and respect.
or developers quit volunteering their time cause at best they will never get one ounce of praise publicly, and at worse have a international spotlight on their asshole getting 3 inches wider.
If I were a coder I wouldnt want to work for this self important asshat
no one really knew about it, it was just another sticker next to intel inside that poped up on the front of pc sold in places like sams or sears for a little while, and quickly vanished
it meant nothing to people, it meant nothing to developers:ie "our product requires a 486DX/33 with 4 megs minimum, thats too high for MPC2 and too low for MPC3, if MPC3 happened to exist at the time... so why bother with it throw a 4 line system requirements sticker on the box like we have for over a decade"
Romanticize about it all you want but to the consumer it was just another meaningless computer acronym.
The major problem with it was it only gave you a hint at what the absolute minimum requirements might be... if you even knew what the damn thing meant. MPC 1 was a 386sx25 with 2 megs of ram, sure your program might run, but just in the basic sense that it ran, not that it was playable or useable. SO instantly you are going back to the requirements list. It was meaningless and did nothing but add another dumbshit icon to the box of icons
yes it does, on my electronics workbench computer I normally run win7, but I have debian + xfce installed, and use it frequently, a year later I went to install TV time which does not like the nouveau driver... that was the first time I noticed I did not install the nvidia blob
its also pretty hard to follow as the topic seems to drift all over the place, Dylan, mob rule on the internet, traffic and simulators, surface, web2.0, terminator, murder... good luck
pretty much anything runs "out of the box" though yes if you want decent graphic speed and 3d with ati or nvidia you do have to install a driver... + few people really care about the whole political whoo ha, they just want shit that works.
"Most people will be shocked that you can do this sort of thing with any OS" not to anyone that uses a laptop and a monitor. this is a pretty standard issue thing now
oh its been much longer than 10 years, 98 maybe 95 could handle it with a simple trip to the display properties, and I have an 1986 macSE that uses its internal monitor and a full page radius display at the same time in os6 with a little utility
The wordprocessor had about as many features as wordpad on windows 2000, the spreadsheet was compariable to gnumeric, and the whole cloud interface made things feel shakey at best... in late 2011
MS Office vs GDocs, heh yea dont even bother. Libre / Open office vs MS Office, very comparable (if your looking at MS office 2000 or 2003, but that does quite a freaking bit)
Hollerith punch cards, a belt driven wooden gear system, and a water wheel? Also whats up slashdot, everyone has been acting like big scary robots just appeared in 2012, when they are almost as old as the PC and have been used in production for decades.
Damn! I was a freshman in highschool 20 years ago (sigh thats depressing) and in one of my freshman technical classes (think shop mixed with computers) we were programming robots with simple point n click position recording software... where have you people been?
noting since like year 2000 would support a 386 anyway (even if you scurried up 48 megs worth of simms), I know I checked them all. And to be honest a 1998 distro (both debain and slackware) ran so god awful slow, they were functionless on a pentium.
its not a question of if the computer is too slow, its waiting on it to boot, I dont care if you have a brand new cray, CD drives have not gotten any faster, and usb sticks are not that much better.
removing the drive and putting it in another machine takes almost as long as waiting on a full distro to boot, I carry a 128meg stick around on my keychain and it takes seconds to boot (again DSL) and lets me inspect the machines file structure... I dont always have another pc to play host on me, nor do I want to disassemble a computer when all I want to do is see what is wrong with it before making an repair estimation.
here is the situation I run into often. User / mom / me has a computer that windows or the hard disk itself has just taken a nasty smelly splatter shit on and wont boot, you need to get in there gather files and settings cause its just good practice before screwing someones machine up. You reach for a linux distro, and you have a modern mint which takes ~20 min to boot from a dvd, or this (I often use DSL) which can get you into a file manager within seconds.
Now if the last thing you want to be doing all night is dicking with a computer, you sure as heck dont want to be sitting there doing nothing while some overbloated OS bogs its way off of CD or USB just so you can drag n drop from A to B.
does anyone buy touchscreen desktops, and if they are dumb enough to do so, how many minutes do you think it takes before they notice their arm is tired and never use it again
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minimum requirements you knew what they asked for, some Icon is totally useless if no one knows what it means, and they did they had to know the system requirements in the first place to chart their pc to the mpc level.
meanwhile nvidia holds one of the biggest keys to linux gaming, and the oss drivers bog down drawing windows
yea man give that finger, he is so right... thats why linux is the dominate OS in the world today
oh wait
your right, I design hardware, I will leave the code monkeys to breaking something thats already half broken in the first place, its only software, fire up the fucking text editor and fix it ... not like you just spent thousands of dollars on a simple mistake, which is common in hardware.
or in otherwords, cry me a river, and grow up Linus, the only thing you lost is time and respect.
or developers quit volunteering their time cause at best they will never get one ounce of praise publicly, and at worse have a international spotlight on their asshole getting 3 inches wider.
If I were a coder I wouldnt want to work for this self important asshat
oh it was...
no one really knew about it, it was just another sticker next to intel inside that poped up on the front of pc sold in places like sams or sears for a little while, and quickly vanished
it meant nothing to people, it meant nothing to developers:ie "our product requires a 486DX/33 with 4 megs minimum, thats too high for MPC2 and too low for MPC3, if MPC3 happened to exist at the time ... so why bother with it throw a 4 line system requirements sticker on the box like we have for over a decade"
Romanticize about it all you want but to the consumer it was just another meaningless computer acronym.
The major problem with it was it only gave you a hint at what the absolute minimum requirements might be... if you even knew what the damn thing meant. MPC 1 was a 386sx25 with 2 megs of ram, sure your program might run, but just in the basic sense that it ran, not that it was playable or useable. SO instantly you are going back to the requirements list. It was meaningless and did nothing but add another dumbshit icon to the box of icons
no sir! how we work is to let shit fester and rot until a replacement comes along that solves the problem for us dammit!
yes it does, on my electronics workbench computer I normally run win7, but I have debian + xfce installed, and use it frequently, a year later I went to install TV time which does not like the nouveau driver... that was the first time I noticed I did not install the nvidia blob
well considering he cant stay on topic for a whole paragraph, I wouldn't fucking know
I havent ran into a nic that didnt work in linux in over a decade, again where are they getting this crazy garbage from? a back alley in Wuhan?
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its also pretty hard to follow as the topic seems to drift all over the place, Dylan, mob rule on the internet, traffic and simulators, surface, web2.0, terminator, murder... good luck
pretty much anything runs "out of the box" though yes if you want decent graphic speed and 3d with ati or nvidia you do have to install a driver ... + few people really care about the whole political whoo ha, they just want shit that works.
how the hell do you make such a huge mountain out of a molehill?
AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Realtech, VIA
all have been supported in linux as system chipsets for a long fucking time, where the hell are you getting these crackhead mobos you speak of?
"Most people will be shocked that you can do this sort of thing with any OS"
not to anyone that uses a laptop and a monitor. this is a pretty standard issue thing now
oh its been much longer than 10 years, 98 maybe 95 could handle it with a simple trip to the display properties, and I have an 1986 macSE that uses its internal monitor and a full page radius display at the same time in os6 with a little utility
oh I have drives dating back to the 80's, none are WD's though ... they all got sorted in the wash
"So they sometimes make good software."
LIES! (jk of course they sometimes hit the statistical anomaly)
The wordprocessor had about as many features as wordpad on windows 2000, the spreadsheet was compariable to gnumeric, and the whole cloud interface made things feel shakey at best ... in late 2011
MS Office vs GDocs, heh yea dont even bother. Libre / Open office vs MS Office, very comparable (if your looking at MS office 2000 or 2003, but that does quite a freaking bit)
Hollerith punch cards, a belt driven wooden gear system, and a water wheel? Also whats up slashdot, everyone has been acting like big scary robots just appeared in 2012, when they are almost as old as the PC and have been used in production for decades.
Damn! I was a freshman in highschool 20 years ago (sigh thats depressing) and in one of my freshman technical classes (think shop mixed with computers) we were programming robots with simple point n click position recording software ... where have you people been?
noting since like year 2000 would support a 386 anyway (even if you scurried up 48 megs worth of simms), I know I checked them all. And to be honest a 1998 distro (both debain and slackware) ran so god awful slow, they were functionless on a pentium.
its not a question of if the computer is too slow, its waiting on it to boot, I dont care if you have a brand new cray, CD drives have not gotten any faster, and usb sticks are not that much better.
removing the drive and putting it in another machine takes almost as long as waiting on a full distro to boot, I carry a 128meg stick around on my keychain and it takes seconds to boot (again DSL) and lets me inspect the machines file structure ... I dont always have another pc to play host on me, nor do I want to disassemble a computer when all I want to do is see what is wrong with it before making an repair estimation.
is it connected to the internet 24/7?
here is the situation I run into often. User / mom / me has a computer that windows or the hard disk itself has just taken a nasty smelly splatter shit on and wont boot, you need to get in there gather files and settings cause its just good practice before screwing someones machine up. You reach for a linux distro, and you have a modern mint which takes ~20 min to boot from a dvd, or this (I often use DSL) which can get you into a file manager within seconds.
Now if the last thing you want to be doing all night is dicking with a computer, you sure as heck dont want to be sitting there doing nothing while some overbloated OS bogs its way off of CD or USB just so you can drag n drop from A to B.
does anyone buy touchscreen desktops, and if they are dumb enough to do so, how many minutes do you think it takes before they notice their arm is tired and never use it again