Its not. Climate does however influence weather more than any other factor. In a desert climate the weather is often sunny and hot. In an arctic climate, the weather is often cold and snowy. Global warming adds significant energy to the global climate which can be used to melt glaciers or power storms.
The car analogy is too strained so think of the global economy (climate) and stocks (weather). If the global economy crashes (climate) on the whole, the stock market will be down overall but some companies might be up and others might be waaaay down (weather).
The global average temperature is basically a measure of the energy contained on Earth's surface, oceans and atmosphere. If the average temperature goes up, there is more energy in our environment. How this affects you specifically is very complicated and based on many factors (butterflies in china, etc). But on the whole, records show that for several thousand years the total energy has been relatively stable compared to the past 50.
So we have a balanced system that we just dumped a bunch of energy into. That energy can do all sorts of things like melt ice, increase frequency and power of storms (hurricanes are powered by warm oceans), shift prevailing weather patterns making some places drier or wetter. So 60 - 62.5 may not make much of a difference at all where you live but -1.5 to 0.5 in Greenland can melt a shitload of ice.
The point I was making is that ultimately, the requirement to reduce the warming of the Earth to merely two degrees is a distraction.... Fixing such a process isn't going to happen in the desired time frame...... We can bicker about what caused it, but we should be preparing to get people out of there and mitigate the damage.
So....converting the globe to renewable sources using existing technology which would increase the price of energy a few % in the short term and put some vested interests out of business is too hard. Instead lets start moving the 3 billion of Earth's humans that live within a few dozen miles of a coastline? Did I get that right?
Agree 100% that it's not for everyone. My post was in response to someone who lives in CO, USA where there are ~300 days of sunshine per year with a sun that's more intense than sea level and most houses are on plains where there is minimal shade. But prices have come down so much that even if solar didn't make sense 2 years ago your area it might be worth another look.
Yes there are some issues with leasing panels and selling houses. However, the real estate industry has caught up quickly and has developed tools to gracefully handle lease transfers or removals. Perhaps I should have said "take a hard look at solar".
Fair enough. Total install cost for a 7800W array in 2014 was $19k and I got back around $6k total in tax credits. Xcel lets you bank electricity with no expiration so what extra I produce in the summer carries over to Jan and Feb. The first year I lived in the house my total electricity bill was around $1100 so my break even point is around 11 years assuming rates don't go up (which they have already). I'm planning on an electric car in the next few years which cuts down the payback period even more. The panels are guaranteed to retain 80% capacity at 20 years and will likely output substantial power for at least 40. Throw in a few replacement panels and an inverter or two over that time and I'm still looking at 30-40 years of electricity for the cost of about 10 from the grid.
That said, I just saw that Xcel has proposed a grid use charge for new solar installs that will change the math somewhat. But when it goes into effect in 2 years, prices for solar will likely have fallen enough to still make sense in most cases. Cheap, effective whole house batteries that will get you through a week of rain aren't far behind.
I should stop there but....the nice thing about the tax benefits I received is that many more people can now benefit from them since they helped drive down the cost of solar by a huge amount in just a few years. One of the reasons so many solar companies went out of business is because if they held any inventory, it was pretty much unsaleable because next month's panels were better and cheaper. I know talking about such things is a can of worms but in my opinion, this is exactly what the gov is supposed to do: solve the chicken and egg problem by incentivize promising new tech resulting in new markets for average consumers. And now I'll hand it over to./ for all the free market backlash.
Thats it! The dope smokers are running the state now! Everyone should stop moving here. The sun is too bright with the clear air and they make us walk through all the forests. It sucks. Stay in KS, TX and MO, your midwest havens of freedom.
Get solar! If you own your roof it will lower your bill no matter how you do it (pay cash, lease, solar installer becomes your power company). We get a ton of sun in CO so you're almost certainly a prime candidate for solar. My total energy bill (gas + elec) hasn't gone above $70 in the 2 years I've had solar. Summer months I have negative bills. If you own your house you will absolutely save money on energy and your rates will never increase!
Because apparently humans can do great things such as win olympic medals, invent the computer (Turing), tell great stories (first Matrix), and all sorts of other stuff despite what society (or you and 3 mods in this case) thinks of their mental state.
I just hope Mosul realized this in time! It sounds so simple, how could they have let it come to this? While we're at it, we should fix congress by electing better people. And to reduce unemployment and poverty we'll just put everyone to work!
Sorry, I'm guessing you didn't read about all the problems the dam has but I can never resist these "its so easy!" posts. If you're aware of all the issues and still think 30sec of keyboard quarterbacking can fix everything then I'm pretty sure I know who your candidate is.
I have no solution, I'm not offering one, and quite frankly, I don't believe there is one.
MAYBE....it is currently fixing itself. The candidate who spent the most money and had the most political connections dropped out early in the race. The one with all the hype (albiet a billionaire) is leading mostly because he's playing to america's inner racist (the only policies I know of that trump has actually talked about are religious and ethnic discrimination). If trump is their candidate it will pretty much blow up the whole corporate oligarchy the republicans have created. On the other side, the big H is likely going to win and she is pretty establishment but Bernie is a lot closer than most expected and he is as close as you'll ever get to being free of corporate interests.
Wow *sniff. Never in my wildest dreams did I think the conversation would end up this way *sniff *sniff. Arguing regulation sub-parts and outdated FCC bulletins. (wipes tear). Does/. really have a chance of going back to the "good" ol days?
And yes I read a few paragraphs of the eCFR to see what yall are on about. Thanks for providing a link to true entertainment!
This is the coolest little hack I've seen on/. since...probably dice bought it. More of this please!
One minor quibble, no need to editorialize the "POTENTIAL SECURITY VULNERABILITY". We already know everything is a weapon for terrorists these days. How about instead of "speaking of chip abuse" we have "speaking of $3 computers with tons of hidden functionality"?
Indeed. Meadowlands near NYC was used to host about 30 non-football events last year. The next most used stadium? Dallas...with EIGHT. And it goes down from there. So those $Billion stadiums get used on average about 10-12 days per year. Sure they might keep the lights on every now and then for a highschool playoff but that isn't going to make a dent in the debt cities incur to build them.
And now we have the rams, who's former city is still on the hook for over $150M on their stadium for a team that is leaving this year.
I agree with you on #2. Hopefully someday that will translate to less welfare for the NFL.
Great, so we know there is a good chance he'll call anyone he is in a competitive situation with a pussy. What happens when China devalues it's currency? Or Russia eyes up another former republic that we deal with? There is a reason diplomats are supposed to be diplomatic.
Consider what happens when you call someone a pussy or a dick, etc. Do you win the argument or change their opinion? Maybe in your head but in reality the argument is over and there is almost zero hope for a resolution. Essentially both sides are dug in and the only thing left to do is escalate the name calling (apologize? not in this decade). So what happens when you call an elected official a pussy? Probably the same thing as if you called them a very nice person thats saving us all. Nothing. Because you're talking among friends...or more likely posting on the internet.
Now, what happens when the President of the United States calls someone a pussy? It ends all hope of any sort of resolution to the issue that is likely affecting millions of people!
Just because we're all assholes online doesn't mean its ok for elected officials to just be a dick. Being called a dick is derogatory for a reason. But hey, if trump really floats your boat, great. Just make sure you never disagree with him on anything because on that issue you're fucked.
Also notable are Trevor Noah's comparisons of trump to various African dictators...which can be traced back to 2012 where Louis Black had a segment which, surprise surprise, compared trump to some other dictators. One part I remember is "which one of these gold plated 3000 sq ft dining rooms is trump's and which is Saddam Hussein's? Trick question! They're both trump's!"
I'd argue the guy who called a former US governor a pussy on national TV in a victory speech during his campaign for President of the United States of America is the one who could use an attitude adjustment.
To break up the usual parade of strained jokes on science articles, how bout posting your favorite cool new thing that we learned from New Horizons? To start...
Pluto has a large mass of frozen nitrogen on its surface that supports many "hills". These may be composed of water ice (less dense than N ice) that float on the slowly shifting nitrogen ice "sea" like an iceberg!
Or maybe we should have been paying more attention and hyping it up when it "used to happen all the time" to avoid all the new leaks that have happened since then. The problem here is that SoCalGas had all that information on potential leaks but this happened anyway. At some point someone needs to be held accountable to stop lax safety measures, hence the hype is very useful.
The costs of throwing the party are so out of control ($50B Russia? For 2 freaking weeks?!) that no country with politicians that are somewhat accountable wants to place a bid. That leaves a bunch of authoritarian regimes that want to "show the world how great we are" by slapping a quick coat of paint on everything and controlling press coverage for two weeks. The big cheese gets a feather in their cap and the IOC gets their bribes.
The situation is coming to a head though. First with Russia that couldn't finish half the buildings in time for a winter olympics at a summer resort...even with $50B to spend... and now with this water situation and the thousands of migrant workers dying on the job to build world cup stadiums in Qatar. FIFA is in the process of cleaning house (hopefully) so maybe the IOC is next.
Sweet, now have some balls and attach your name to those predictions. We'll all get to find out in 5 years if you were right with no risk aside from a ~$100M rounding error in a tech firm's budget!
Personally I think you'll be right...to some small extent. SOME people will do all those pessimistic things but others will do cool shit, most likely worth more socially and economically than the cost of the experiment. I predict this will be a net win regardless of what happens when the experiment ends.
Lets say a great many people all need to do something in their lives that the vast majority believe could be improved, backed by numerous scientific studies. A program is devised based on many years of research that attempts to change the focus of this task from memorization to understanding. Since this is a significant paradigm (sorry) shift, those who came up from the old system are confused and as with most new programs there are a few bugs to work out. Should we:
A) Tweak the program and let it evolve with the population since everything we know says we should try it B) Start a vast national smear campaign with the goal of shutting it down and ostensibly going back to the old system because no one is proposing an alternative*, just because the "other guy" was in office when the plan was implemented.
*I would count your "wonders of math" as an alternative if some details were provided instead of being presented "TrumpStyle"
Actually, the NRA and gun manufacturers don't HAVE to do any marketing after a tragedy like this
Yeah but they do anyway. I gotta say, Apple has got nothing on the NRA. They may be the most prolific marketing entity of all time. They manage to convince enough people that "background checks at gun shows = the world is going to murder you tonight" to completely dominate all legal aspects of firearms from local up through the federal government. No matter the rhetoric, more and more guns are sold. And selling guns is their job mind you, the whole "protect yourself" is just the marketing.
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I thought climate wasn't weather?
Its not. Climate does however influence weather more than any other factor. In a desert climate the weather is often sunny and hot. In an arctic climate, the weather is often cold and snowy. Global warming adds significant energy to the global climate which can be used to melt glaciers or power storms.
The car analogy is too strained so think of the global economy (climate) and stocks (weather). If the global economy crashes (climate) on the whole, the stock market will be down overall but some companies might be up and others might be waaaay down (weather).
obscure establishment institution,
Oh Shit! Its the establishment! RUN!!!
The global average temperature is basically a measure of the energy contained on Earth's surface, oceans and atmosphere. If the average temperature goes up, there is more energy in our environment. How this affects you specifically is very complicated and based on many factors (butterflies in china, etc). But on the whole, records show that for several thousand years the total energy has been relatively stable compared to the past 50.
So we have a balanced system that we just dumped a bunch of energy into. That energy can do all sorts of things like melt ice, increase frequency and power of storms (hurricanes are powered by warm oceans), shift prevailing weather patterns making some places drier or wetter. So 60 - 62.5 may not make much of a difference at all where you live but -1.5 to 0.5 in Greenland can melt a shitload of ice.
The point I was making is that ultimately, the requirement to reduce the warming of the Earth to merely two degrees is a distraction.... Fixing such a process isn't going to happen in the desired time frame...... We can bicker about what caused it, but we should be preparing to get people out of there and mitigate the damage.
So....converting the globe to renewable sources using existing technology which would increase the price of energy a few % in the short term and put some vested interests out of business is too hard. Instead lets start moving the 3 billion of Earth's humans that live within a few dozen miles of a coastline? Did I get that right?
Agree 100% that it's not for everyone. My post was in response to someone who lives in CO, USA where there are ~300 days of sunshine per year with a sun that's more intense than sea level and most houses are on plains where there is minimal shade. But prices have come down so much that even if solar didn't make sense 2 years ago your area it might be worth another look.
Yes there are some issues with leasing panels and selling houses. However, the real estate industry has caught up quickly and has developed tools to gracefully handle lease transfers or removals. Perhaps I should have said "take a hard look at solar".
Fair enough. Total install cost for a 7800W array in 2014 was $19k and I got back around $6k total in tax credits. Xcel lets you bank electricity with no expiration so what extra I produce in the summer carries over to Jan and Feb. The first year I lived in the house my total electricity bill was around $1100 so my break even point is around 11 years assuming rates don't go up (which they have already). I'm planning on an electric car in the next few years which cuts down the payback period even more. The panels are guaranteed to retain 80% capacity at 20 years and will likely output substantial power for at least 40. Throw in a few replacement panels and an inverter or two over that time and I'm still looking at 30-40 years of electricity for the cost of about 10 from the grid.
That said, I just saw that Xcel has proposed a grid use charge for new solar installs that will change the math somewhat. But when it goes into effect in 2 years, prices for solar will likely have fallen enough to still make sense in most cases. Cheap, effective whole house batteries that will get you through a week of rain aren't far behind.
I should stop there but....the nice thing about the tax benefits I received is that many more people can now benefit from them since they helped drive down the cost of solar by a huge amount in just a few years. One of the reasons so many solar companies went out of business is because if they held any inventory, it was pretty much unsaleable because next month's panels were better and cheaper. I know talking about such things is a can of worms but in my opinion, this is exactly what the gov is supposed to do: solve the chicken and egg problem by incentivize promising new tech resulting in new markets for average consumers. And now I'll hand it over to ./ for all the free market backlash.
Thats it! The dope smokers are running the state now! Everyone should stop moving here. The sun is too bright with the clear air and they make us walk through all the forests. It sucks. Stay in KS, TX and MO, your midwest havens of freedom.
Get solar! If you own your roof it will lower your bill no matter how you do it (pay cash, lease, solar installer becomes your power company). We get a ton of sun in CO so you're almost certainly a prime candidate for solar. My total energy bill (gas + elec) hasn't gone above $70 in the 2 years I've had solar. Summer months I have negative bills. If you own your house you will absolutely save money on energy and your rates will never increase!
Why should we celebrate mental illness?
Because apparently humans can do great things such as win olympic medals, invent the computer (Turing), tell great stories (first Matrix), and all sorts of other stuff despite what society (or you and 3 mods in this case) thinks of their mental state.
there has to be some way
I just hope Mosul realized this in time! It sounds so simple, how could they have let it come to this? While we're at it, we should fix congress by electing better people. And to reduce unemployment and poverty we'll just put everyone to work!
Sorry, I'm guessing you didn't read about all the problems the dam has but I can never resist these "its so easy!" posts. If you're aware of all the issues and still think 30sec of keyboard quarterbacking can fix everything then I'm pretty sure I know who your candidate is.
I have no solution, I'm not offering one, and quite frankly, I don't believe there is one.
MAYBE....it is currently fixing itself. The candidate who spent the most money and had the most political connections dropped out early in the race. The one with all the hype (albiet a billionaire) is leading mostly because he's playing to america's inner racist (the only policies I know of that trump has actually talked about are religious and ethnic discrimination). If trump is their candidate it will pretty much blow up the whole corporate oligarchy the republicans have created. On the other side, the big H is likely going to win and she is pretty establishment but Bernie is a lot closer than most expected and he is as close as you'll ever get to being free of corporate interests.
Wow *sniff. Never in my wildest dreams did I think the conversation would end up this way *sniff *sniff. Arguing regulation sub-parts and outdated FCC bulletins. (wipes tear). Does /. really have a chance of going back to the "good" ol days?
And yes I read a few paragraphs of the eCFR to see what yall are on about. Thanks for providing a link to true entertainment!
This is the coolest little hack I've seen on /. since...probably dice bought it. More of this please!
One minor quibble, no need to editorialize the "POTENTIAL SECURITY VULNERABILITY". We already know everything is a weapon for terrorists these days. How about instead of "speaking of chip abuse" we have "speaking of $3 computers with tons of hidden functionality"?
1) those stadiums aren't just for football.
Indeed. Meadowlands near NYC was used to host about 30 non-football events last year. The next most used stadium? Dallas...with EIGHT. And it goes down from there. So those $Billion stadiums get used on average about 10-12 days per year. Sure they might keep the lights on every now and then for a highschool playoff but that isn't going to make a dent in the debt cities incur to build them.
And now we have the rams, who's former city is still on the hook for over $150M on their stadium for a team that is leaving this year.
I agree with you on #2. Hopefully someday that will translate to less welfare for the NFL.
Great, so we know there is a good chance he'll call anyone he is in a competitive situation with a pussy. What happens when China devalues it's currency? Or Russia eyes up another former republic that we deal with? There is a reason diplomats are supposed to be diplomatic.
Consider what happens when you call someone a pussy or a dick, etc. Do you win the argument or change their opinion? Maybe in your head but in reality the argument is over and there is almost zero hope for a resolution. Essentially both sides are dug in and the only thing left to do is escalate the name calling (apologize? not in this decade). So what happens when you call an elected official a pussy? Probably the same thing as if you called them a very nice person thats saving us all. Nothing. Because you're talking among friends...or more likely posting on the internet.
Now, what happens when the President of the United States calls someone a pussy? It ends all hope of any sort of resolution to the issue that is likely affecting millions of people!
Just because we're all assholes online doesn't mean its ok for elected officials to just be a dick. Being called a dick is derogatory for a reason. But hey, if trump really floats your boat, great. Just make sure you never disagree with him on anything because on that issue you're fucked.
Also notable are Trevor Noah's comparisons of trump to various African dictators...which can be traced back to 2012 where Louis Black had a segment which, surprise surprise, compared trump to some other dictators. One part I remember is "which one of these gold plated 3000 sq ft dining rooms is trump's and which is Saddam Hussein's? Trick question! They're both trump's!"
I'd argue the guy who called a former US governor a pussy on national TV in a victory speech during his campaign for President of the United States of America is the one who could use an attitude adjustment.
To break up the usual parade of strained jokes on science articles, how bout posting your favorite cool new thing that we learned from New Horizons? To start...
Pluto has a large mass of frozen nitrogen on its surface that supports many "hills". These may be composed of water ice (less dense than N ice) that float on the slowly shifting nitrogen ice "sea" like an iceberg!
Or maybe we should have been paying more attention and hyping it up when it "used to happen all the time" to avoid all the new leaks that have happened since then. The problem here is that SoCalGas had all that information on potential leaks but this happened anyway. At some point someone needs to be held accountable to stop lax safety measures, hence the hype is very useful.
The costs of throwing the party are so out of control ($50B Russia? For 2 freaking weeks?!) that no country with politicians that are somewhat accountable wants to place a bid. That leaves a bunch of authoritarian regimes that want to "show the world how great we are" by slapping a quick coat of paint on everything and controlling press coverage for two weeks. The big cheese gets a feather in their cap and the IOC gets their bribes.
The situation is coming to a head though. First with Russia that couldn't finish half the buildings in time for a winter olympics at a summer resort...even with $50B to spend... and now with this water situation and the thousands of migrant workers dying on the job to build world cup stadiums in Qatar. FIFA is in the process of cleaning house (hopefully) so maybe the IOC is next.
Sweet, now have some balls and attach your name to those predictions. We'll all get to find out in 5 years if you were right with no risk aside from a ~$100M rounding error in a tech firm's budget!
Personally I think you'll be right...to some small extent. SOME people will do all those pessimistic things but others will do cool shit, most likely worth more socially and economically than the cost of the experiment. I predict this will be a net win regardless of what happens when the experiment ends.
Here we go with the common core backlash...
Lets say a great many people all need to do something in their lives that the vast majority believe could be improved, backed by numerous scientific studies. A program is devised based on many years of research that attempts to change the focus of this task from memorization to understanding. Since this is a significant paradigm (sorry) shift, those who came up from the old system are confused and as with most new programs there are a few bugs to work out. Should we:
A) Tweak the program and let it evolve with the population since everything we know says we should try it
B) Start a vast national smear campaign with the goal of shutting it down and ostensibly going back to the old system because no one is proposing an alternative*, just because the "other guy" was in office when the plan was implemented.
*I would count your "wonders of math" as an alternative if some details were provided instead of being presented "TrumpStyle"
I lost 25lbs in a week with no diet or exercise and you can too. All you need to do is attend a trump campaign rally!
Come on guys, how come there is no #trumpcrazypromises meme yet?
Actually, the NRA and gun manufacturers don't HAVE to do any marketing after a tragedy like this
Yeah but they do anyway. I gotta say, Apple has got nothing on the NRA. They may be the most prolific marketing entity of all time. They manage to convince enough people that "background checks at gun shows = the world is going to murder you tonight" to completely dominate all legal aspects of firearms from local up through the federal government. No matter the rhetoric, more and more guns are sold. And selling guns is their job mind you, the whole "protect yourself" is just the marketing.