It is complete and total bullshit. Why do mac fan boys continue to claim that OSX is more secure when time and time again this is has been proven false.
Me, a Mac fanboy ?
Look, I have an Android phone, I run Linux on all my servers and laptops.
I was given an iPad and I sold it because I refused to have a computing device I could not do WTF I want with it.Same reason I will never buy an iPhone
Hell, my Android phone is a Google Nexus because I want to have total control over it.
If you think I'm an Apple fanboy, you should go read the definition.
b.t.w. OSX may not be totally secure, but it's sure as hell way more secure than Windows.
I did not say that I used them extensively. I tried ME and avoided it because it was so unstable and a lot of drivers where missing.
I tried Vista but could not stand how slow it was.
Quoted from the article : "On any single monitor, more than two applications can be run simultaneously. Instead of Windows 8's fixed split, where one application gets 320 pixels and the other application gets the rest, the division between apps will be variable. It'll also be possible to have multiple windows from a single app so that, for example, two browser windows can be opened side-by-side"
frankly if you're stuck at "this isn't working as I want it to" then you should hand your geek-badge in because really....this isn't difficult.
Frankly, if you can't grab the concept of "I need to make it work the way I want, and not how MS marketing dep wants it to work", I guess you don't have a geek-badge to hand-off.
I've used EVERY windows version since version 1, and Win8 is the first version ever that I can't stand.
I've now moved to Linux with KDE, where I can actually make it work the way I want. And believe it or not, I can actually have more than one window open at the same time !
So keep using your toy OS and I will keep using mine that actually tries really hard to not be in my way while I work.
"Hmmm my favourite OS start menu has been modified in ways I don't entirely appreciate; better move all my apps and data to another OS entirely" - said no-one ever.
If you think that the only problem with Win8 is the start menu, you must be using only one app at a time.
Windows 8 doesn't bring any new things you can do, but it removes a lot of things could do in the past (like use 2 windows side by side).
So keep following MS direction like the nice little sheep they want you to be. I'll keep using whatever I want to go in the direction I want.
And if you fuck the wrong text files on linux, your computer may not boot anymore either...
Linux just stores (most of) its `registry' in ASCII files strewn across directories, rather than binary. The KDE control panel is just a utility editing the right files for you; there is an analogous free utility for Windows called ``sharpkeys". It's a third-party download, but that's just how commercial OSes roll.
You are so wrong ! You can completely remove apache's config file (for example) and the only thing you will achieve is that the apache service won't start anymore.
Even if you screwed GRUB's config file, you can still boot the machine on a live-CD and re-install grub and it will work again.
And the big advantage of text files is that it's really easy to copy them to another system if you want the same config there.
Son as soon as y ou have a desktop, you are ready to work ?
I need more than this to work. Beside starting my dev environment and logging myself un gmail, our project management etc, I think it takes more than 1.5 min.
And who said I spent any money on a new platform ? Linux is free you know
I guess I should bitch and moan too because my Ubuntu desktops have a red icon in the upper right sometimes, wanting me to reboot after installing some updates. Geez.
And it pops-up every-now-and-then bugging you to reboot ?
So, let me get this straight : Linux is hard because you need to modify text files to change something, while in Windows there is that super easy click-happy interface anybody can use.
Then, every time I want to do something more advanced, I have to go hack the registry to do it ?
And the first big warning is that if you fuck the registry, your computer may not boot anymore.
Like if you want to disable that CapsLock key, you have to modify some hex value in the registry. On my KDE machine, I just went into the control panel and assigned the CapsLock to another CTRL.
You know you can just disable automatic updates if it bothers you? Or set it to download them - but not install them until you're ready?
And how are you supposed to keep that thing "almost" secure if you don't install updates ?
And it does not change the fact that it is REALLY stupid to reboot the machine without my consent.
That just is NOT true anymore. Windows 7 has been stable from the word go. Uptime measured in days and weeks for a DESKTOP computer that is only interrupted by important updates and other administrative tasks that require a reboot. Otherwise, it Just Works. This coming from a guy who LOVES Linux- on servers.
That's the first problem with Windows : there is so many things that needs you to reboot it is ridiculous. And the freakin updates that FORCES me to reboot. Only thing you can do is tell it to postpone the reboot for 4 hours. Then 4 hours later that fu***n thing pops-up again requesting you to reboot. And the worst : if you are not in front of you machine when it pops, after about a minute it will decide that it can just reboot. So you come back, your computer is at the login screen and you just have to re-open everything to get back to work. Who the f**k decided this was a good idea ?
Now I don't have that problem anymore. I installed Mint on my work computer and the only time I need to reboot is when I upgrade the kernel. After the upgrade there is a popup that tells me it needs to reboot to fully apply the update. If I click postpone IT WILL NEVER BOTHER ME AGAIN.
Also, I measure uptimes in months, not days and weeks. In fact I have an internet-facing server that is up for more that 5.5 years.
You've never lived in a really cold climate, have you?
(Hint: It's called a block heater, and good fucking luck getting your car started at -40 when you forgot to plug in overnight.)
What brand of car do you buy ?
I live in Montreal and I never plugged a car in my life. Well, except that old Nissan that refused to start under -25 unless I plugged it for an hour.
and I've owned a lot of old cars.
I currently own a Subaru and the day it refuse to start because it's too cold is the day I will go shop for another one.
Get rid of the bloat. Cut out of the complexity. Drop most of the "features" and come back when they have a simple, well designed, reliable and FAST desktop environment.
Congratulation on your perfect description of LXDE !
I'd rather give money to Valve than, say, EA... but I'd far rather give my money to someone who's going to make more DRM-free games that I can actually install from an installer or a backup without having to deal with a crack that may be infested with a virus.
Like the games on gog.com ?
I buy games from them because there is no DRM
Hosted exchange + the full office suit. Honestly it's a decent way to do this until you decide to roll your own infrastructure. If you ever do. (We have it scaled across 15 companies and ~1200 users)
And we all know what the 365 in the name means : it's down every February 29th
Anyway, this (and other limitations you listed) should be gone in WP8.
Like every problem in every Windows version, it should be gone in the next version. Keep the faith my friend, some day, Microsoft will get something out the door that won't suck. And I guess it will be a vacuum.
I've literally never had an easier time launching any program, even the ones that I use once in a blue moon, as I've had on Windows 7.
It looks like you never used anything but Windows either. I've been using this feature in KDE for years. And when I saw it Windows 7, I was glad they copied it
my second car is a 95 neon that gets almost 40 mpg when the motor or transmission breaks I go to the wrecking yard and buy a used one for $100 to $200. One sometimes two Sundays and it is back on the road and I take the old motor to be melted for scrap, fluids are recycled, rubber is recycled and when its time for another neon (neons are my car of choice due to parts availability and ease of repair) my old one goes the the wrecker and I get $75 a ton for the scrap. Now which is more environmentally responsible my neon or a super expensive EV that most people can not afford.
The more environmentally responsible is a car that you don't have to change the motor / transmission every year.
You should try a good car for a change, maybe a Toyota or a Honda. I've run a Tercel to more than 600,000 km on the original engine/transmission.
Those Neons are junk, even when new.
It is complete and total bullshit. Why do mac fan boys continue to claim that OSX is more secure when time and time again this is has been proven false.
Me, a Mac fanboy ?
Look, I have an Android phone, I run Linux on all my servers and laptops.
I was given an iPad and I sold it because I refused to have a computing device I could not do WTF I want with it.Same reason I will never buy an iPhone
Hell, my Android phone is a Google Nexus because I want to have total control over it.
If you think I'm an Apple fanboy, you should go read the definition.
b.t.w. OSX may not be totally secure, but it's sure as hell way more secure than Windows.
I did not say that I used them extensively. I tried ME and avoided it because it was so unstable and a lot of drivers where missing.
I tried Vista but could not stand how slow it was.
Quoted from the article : "On any single monitor, more than two applications can be run simultaneously. Instead of Windows 8's fixed split, where one application gets 320 pixels and the other application gets the rest, the division between apps will be variable. It'll also be possible to have multiple windows from a single app so that, for example, two browser windows can be opened side-by-side"
Nothing more to say !
frankly if you're stuck at "this isn't working as I want it to" then you should hand your geek-badge in because really....this isn't difficult.
Frankly, if you can't grab the concept of "I need to make it work the way I want, and not how MS marketing dep wants it to work", I guess you don't have a geek-badge to hand-off.
I've used EVERY windows version since version 1, and Win8 is the first version ever that I can't stand.
I've now moved to Linux with KDE, where I can actually make it work the way I want. And believe it or not, I can actually have more than one window open at the same time !
So keep using your toy OS and I will keep using mine that actually tries really hard to not be in my way while I work.
"Hmmm my favourite OS start menu has been modified in ways I don't entirely appreciate; better move all my apps and data to another OS entirely" - said no-one ever.
If you think that the only problem with Win8 is the start menu, you must be using only one app at a time.
Windows 8 doesn't bring any new things you can do, but it removes a lot of things could do in the past (like use 2 windows side by side).
So keep following MS direction like the nice little sheep they want you to be. I'll keep using whatever I want to go in the direction I want.
third option : move to a better/faster/more secure OS : OSX or Linux.
I find it incredible that a self-confessed geek is having an issue with people pointing at Microsoft's HUGE mistake.
Why is it so hard for them to NOT FORCE US into their Metro crap ?
And if you fuck the wrong text files on linux, your computer may not boot anymore either...
Linux just stores (most of) its `registry' in ASCII files strewn across directories, rather than binary. The KDE control panel is just a utility editing the right files for you; there is an analogous free utility for Windows called ``sharpkeys". It's a third-party download, but that's just how commercial OSes roll.
You are so wrong ! You can completely remove apache's config file (for example) and the only thing you will achieve is that the apache service won't start anymore.
Even if you screwed GRUB's config file, you can still boot the machine on a live-CD and re-install grub and it will work again.
And the big advantage of text files is that it's really easy to copy them to another system if you want the same config there.
Son as soon as y ou have a desktop, you are ready to work ?
I need more than this to work. Beside starting my dev environment and logging myself un gmail, our project management etc, I think it takes more than 1.5 min.
And who said I spent any money on a new platform ? Linux is free you know
I guess I should bitch and moan too because my Ubuntu desktops have a red icon in the upper right sometimes, wanting me to reboot after installing some updates. Geez.
And it pops-up every-now-and-then bugging you to reboot ?
So, let me get this straight : Linux is hard because you need to modify text files to change something, while in Windows there is that super easy click-happy interface anybody can use.
Then, every time I want to do something more advanced, I have to go hack the registry to do it ?
And the first big warning is that if you fuck the registry, your computer may not boot anymore.
Like if you want to disable that CapsLock key, you have to modify some hex value in the registry. On my KDE machine, I just went into the control panel and assigned the CapsLock to another CTRL.
You know you can just disable automatic updates if it bothers you? Or set it to download them - but not install them until you're ready?
And how are you supposed to keep that thing "almost" secure if you don't install updates ?
And it does not change the fact that it is REALLY stupid to reboot the machine without my consent.
A decently managed XP box could do the same. Hell a well managed 95/98 box could keep highish uptimes as well.
You could not keep 95/98 up more than 49.7 days : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216641
That just is NOT true anymore. Windows 7 has been stable from the word go. Uptime measured in days and weeks for a DESKTOP computer that is only interrupted by important updates and other administrative tasks that require a reboot. Otherwise, it Just Works. This coming from a guy who LOVES Linux- on servers.
That's the first problem with Windows : there is so many things that needs you to reboot it is ridiculous. And the freakin updates that FORCES me to reboot. Only thing you can do is tell it to postpone the reboot for 4 hours. Then 4 hours later that fu***n thing pops-up again requesting you to reboot. And the worst : if you are not in front of you machine when it pops, after about a minute it will decide that it can just reboot. So you come back, your computer is at the login screen and you just have to re-open everything to get back to work. Who the f**k decided this was a good idea ?
Now I don't have that problem anymore. I installed Mint on my work computer and the only time I need to reboot is when I upgrade the kernel. After the upgrade there is a popup that tells me it needs to reboot to fully apply the update. If I click postpone IT WILL NEVER BOTHER ME AGAIN.
Also, I measure uptimes in months, not days and weeks. In fact I have an internet-facing server that is up for more that 5.5 years.
Like somebody here would want to download it
You've never lived in a really cold climate, have you?
(Hint: It's called a block heater, and good fucking luck getting your car started at -40 when you forgot to plug in overnight.)
What brand of car do you buy ?
I live in Montreal and I never plugged a car in my life. Well, except that old Nissan that refused to start under -25 unless I plugged it for an hour.
and I've owned a lot of old cars.
I currently own a Subaru and the day it refuse to start because it's too cold is the day I will go shop for another one.
Stop buying cars built for California
Azure has a better chance of gaining a broader audience than ChromeOS IMHO.
Yeah, specially if you want to take February 29th off
Get rid of the bloat. Cut out of the complexity. Drop most of the "features" and come back when they have a simple, well designed, reliable and FAST desktop environment.
Congratulation on your perfect description of LXDE !
I'm guessing you've not tried it. Win8 is actually better on multiple displays because the task bar is on both.
you mean like it's been on my Linux box for years ?
Wow, seems like windows is finally catching up to some Linux features !
I'd rather give money to Valve than, say, EA... but I'd far rather give my money to someone who's going to make more DRM-free games that I can actually install from an installer or a backup without having to deal with a crack that may be infested with a virus.
Like the games on gog.com ?
I buy games from them because there is no DRM
WindowsTOGO makes it possible to use a Windows bootcd like Linux users have done for a decade.
Glad to see MS is finally catching up !
Get an office365 subscription.
Hosted exchange + the full office suit. Honestly it's a decent way to do this until you decide to roll your own infrastructure. If you ever do. (We have it scaled across 15 companies and ~1200 users)
And we all know what the 365 in the name means : it's down every February 29th
Anyway, this (and other limitations you listed) should be gone in WP8.
Like every problem in every Windows version, it should be gone in the next version.
Keep the faith my friend, some day, Microsoft will get something out the door that won't suck. And I guess it will be a vacuum.
I've literally never had an easier time launching any program, even the ones that I use once in a blue moon, as I've had on Windows 7.
It looks like you never used anything but Windows either. I've been using this feature in KDE for years. And when I saw it Windows 7, I was glad they copied it
my second car is a 95 neon that gets almost 40 mpg when the motor or transmission breaks I go to the wrecking yard and buy a used one for $100 to $200. One sometimes two Sundays and it is back on the road and I take the old motor to be melted for scrap, fluids are recycled, rubber is recycled and when its time for another neon (neons are my car of choice due to parts availability and ease of repair) my old one goes the the wrecker and I get $75 a ton for the scrap. Now which is more environmentally responsible my neon or a super expensive EV that most people can not afford.
The more environmentally responsible is a car that you don't have to change the motor / transmission every year.
You should try a good car for a change, maybe a Toyota or a Honda. I've run a Tercel to more than 600,000 km on the original engine/transmission.
Those Neons are junk, even when new.
For console mode app, yes, that would work, but for a GUI app, better to just disable the TTY's