And on that note... DragonlyBSD we're all rooting for you... show us what you can do.
Bah. That's just an overhyped macrokernel. I was promised earth shattering innovations from DBSD, but all I've gotten has been an increase in trolling. I think I'll stick with my underhyped macrokernel FreeBSD.
It isn't new, of course, but I do think it's a bad thing. It's horribly inefficient and injects far too much politics into the mix. As well as being statist, but that goes without saying.
If you're not playing 3D video games (and I assure you, your dear sweet grandmother who you are install for does not), then just use the open source X.org nv driver.
A better analogy to microkernels is to have a small container ship with a small hold, and a whole bunch of other small containers ships with small holds roped to it, and trying to navigate them all from the central ship. You can do it, but it's much more difficult. It's THE reason Hurd is so tardy.
I really can't figure out why ripping someone apart is less damaging to a child then seeing breasts, but maybe that's just me.
Scaring your kid with blood will scare him for a night. Teaching him to sexually objectize women will damage him for a lifetime.
p.s. Of course, it's all a matter of degree. The depiction of live eviseration is going to have a greater impact than a bit of blood, just as the depiction of women as whores in GTA will have a greater impact than the large breasts in Tomb Raider.
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My first vi encounter was back in the days of the dinosaur. It was the later cretaceous, to be exact. At the time people used a wide variety of terminals to connect to the computer. The terminals themselves tended to be system specific, so that some had function keys, other didn't; some had arrow keys, others didn't; and some had meta keys, while others didn't. Using such a variety of terminals for Unix was a major problem, ranking up there with the problem of using a huge variety of printers. But then came vi and it didn't need function keys, arrow keys or meta keys. I could finally have a full screen text editor on ANY terminal I chose. With a tiny handful of commands I could be productive. In comparison to the other editors, it was easy to use. At the time vi was a huge step forward.
Modern interfaces with mice and menus and toolbars may have made vi somewhat obsolete, but I would still rather write software using vi than with <hack> MSWord...
p.s. The problem with emacs was that it requried two meta keys, which weren't always available, and even if they were, may be in different keyboard locations under different names. It also required chording which slows down typing (especially if you weren't sure where the meta keys were on this keyboard). And as other people have pointed at, at the time you were guaranteed that vi would be available on any Unix system, while access to emacs was hit or miss.
VIM was never meant to be an embedded GUI component, hence the problems KVim had. They could have made it a standalone app, like GVim, but they really wanted a component based app, so you could use it in Konqueror, KDevelop, etc. Some people talk about synching the GTK+ and Qt event loops, but what do you do when the underlying engine doesn't even have an event loop? They got it to work, but the headache was such that they abandoned the project. KDE 4 is going to have a new VI component, Yzis.
Having spent many, many long years playing the origingal CoC rules (going back many years before d20 even existed), I'm afraid we will just have to agree to disagree. I find it to be a very clumsy, poorly designed system which was only invented because, in the days before Open Gaming Licenses, a company could not create a roleplaying game without first re-inventing the wheel and producing their own systems of basic mechanics.
Just because you don't like a rules system doesn't mean it's crap. That is what I mean by "snobbery". If the original white cover D&D was so bloody perfect that Chaosium should have used it instead of writing their own rules, then how come WoTC eventually threw out the entire system TSR-D&D system for d20?
Not everyone is a Linux user. Until several weeks ago, installing Java on FreeBSD was a royal pain in the ass, because it was ILLEGAL to distribute prebuilt binaries. It still is on OpenBSD and NetBSD. You GNU users are far to complacent towards proprietary software.
No, he means it should work like CPAN does! Didn't you even read his post?
With Perl, or Python, or C/C++, or virtually everything else besides Java (and.net), all you need is the language. You don't need a gargantuan mandatory library, just a tiny standard library, or sometimes none at all. Java has nice no-nonsense semantics, but it is unfortunately bogged down by a monstrosity of a runtime.
I just don't understand the modern mindset. On one side is the demand that children be given complete and total freedom. On the other is the demand that we put them under total continuous surveillance.
As good progressive liberals we must allow our nine year olds to watch any movie they want, dress like whores if they want, and have mixed gender sleepovers if they want. If we don't do this we will sexually repress our children and they will grow into Republicans. But we can't leave them alone for five minutes on the computer or we're bad parents.
Last I heard child pornography was illegal. But given the current support for Google on this issue, I can only surmise that protests in favor of child porn will be coming soon to a city near you.
It's like inviting someone to a party & you agree that they can bring their "affiliates" along. Your invitee shows up with 20 strangers & whoever you have working the door says "I don't know all these people, they aren't allowed in."
This is why I don't invite Linux companies to parties. A significant portion of my spam is coming form "affiliates" of Linux companies. On some days they even outnumber the scammers. I fear the day some Linux company opens shop in Nigeria...
No one claimed it didn't exist for a mute. Also, lets try to get freedom of Speech correct; it covers pretty much all forms of expression, not just the spoken or typed word.
I know that. You know that. Everyone else knows that. You're missing the point.
That's why Call of Cthulu released a d20 book. Their original system was crap...
What an effing snob you are! The only reason there's a d20 CoC is because 90% of the gaming market REFUSES to even look at a game without a d20 logo. The BRP system (the underlying rules for CoC) is one of the most elegant rules system out there. Easy, simple, effect, generic. It most definitely is not crap.
But a good GM can tweak ANY rule set to work the way they want it to work.
I know a guy who has spent six months trying to squeeze a low-fantasy realistic medieval setting into the d20 rules. This is something people can do with Runequst, GURPS or Fudge over a weekend. The problem he is having is that d20 was designed for high fantasy absurdist settings. I say "absurdist", because there is no attempt whatsoever at realism. That's not a bad thing, but it does mean it's ill-suited towards many campaigns and settings.
D&D and nearly every other d20 game centers around challenges to the players. Hence the emphasis on feats and special items. But not every game is this way. Runequest, for example, centers around the character himself, and his goals, asperations and quests. Hence Runequests emphasis on skills and an almost complete lack of feat-like special abilities.
Ask a D&D player about his character, and he will talk about his magic sword, or his multi-class, or the monsters he has slain, or his followers. But ask a Runequest player about his charact, and he will actually talk about his character! He'll talk about his background, what he does for a living, who his friends are, what his goals are, etc. That's stereotyping, to be sure, but it's a stereotype that fits.
D&D players aren't roleplaying, they're rollplaying. There's nothing wrong with that, as it's a legitimate style of play. I just wish they woulnd't be so hostile towards other games.
I am not a game-system snob. I am an anti-snob. It is the D&D players who are the snobs. They won't buy a supplement unless it has the d20 logo, even if it's a completely generic supplement that doesn't have system-specific rules in it. They won't even bother trying other game systems, even systems far easier to use than D&D/d20. These people NEVER sign up for alternate games at conventions, something that is routine for players of every other system.
I remember that one too. I so it on the west coast, and everyone I know who remembers seeing it, saw it on the west coast. Were there more than one master print? Was it edited out before it reached the rest of the world?
You want to maintain a healthy marriage? Don't insult your wife.
You want to get good service at a restaurant? Don't insult the waiter.
You want to keep your project funding? Don't insult the guy paying you.
This isn't about free speech, it's about tact. Thousands of university professors wear their politics on their sleeves, yet they manage to keep their funding. That's because they tend to use a modicum of tact. It's a lesson Theo would do well to learn.
When you get down to small and independent publishers, there are hundreds of new and upcoming RPG products.
Frankly, I'm surprised Slashdot even bothered to mention the existance of GURPS. That's because D&D is the Microsoft/McDonalds/Budweiser of the roleplaying industry. I outgrew D&D around the time the third pubic hair came in. Three and a half editions later and I still have no desire to play it. Give me Runequest, Rolemaster, CoC, HârnMaster, HARP, Fudge, etc.
Windows user upon learning of the existance of another OS: "It's too much work to learn something new. It's too confusing. It doesn't run my favorite spyware."
D&D users upon learning of the existance of another RPG game: "It's too much work to learn new rules. It's too confusing. It won't support my twentieth level chaotic good halfelf ninja amazon mage."
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And on that note... DragonlyBSD we're all rooting for you... show us what you can do.
Bah. That's just an overhyped macrokernel. I was promised earth shattering innovations from DBSD, but all I've gotten has been an increase in trolling. I think I'll stick with my underhyped macrokernel FreeBSD.
It's also a fact that men who use whores to powerup have severe emotional problems in their lives.
It isn't new, of course, but I do think it's a bad thing. It's horribly inefficient and injects far too much politics into the mix. As well as being statist, but that goes without saying.
If you're not playing 3D video games (and I assure you, your dear sweet grandmother who you are install for does not), then just use the open source X.org nv driver.
Ubuntu is obviously the choice for first-time switchers
Obviously anyone who disagrees is a poopy-head!
OS X doesn't have a microkernel. Just because it uses Mach doesn't mean it's a microkernel.
A better analogy to microkernels is to have a small container ship with a small hold, and a whole bunch of other small containers ships with small holds roped to it, and trying to navigate them all from the central ship. You can do it, but it's much more difficult. It's THE reason Hurd is so tardy.
I really can't figure out why ripping someone apart is less damaging to a child then seeing breasts, but maybe that's just me.
Scaring your kid with blood will scare him for a night. Teaching him to sexually objectize women will damage him for a lifetime.
p.s. Of course, it's all a matter of degree. The depiction of live eviseration is going to have a greater impact than a bit of blood, just as the depiction of women as whores in GTA will have a greater impact than the large breasts in Tomb Raider.
My first vi encounter was back in the days of the dinosaur. It was the later cretaceous, to be exact. At the time people used a wide variety of terminals to connect to the computer. The terminals themselves tended to be system specific, so that some had function keys, other didn't; some had arrow keys, others didn't; and some had meta keys, while others didn't. Using such a variety of terminals for Unix was a major problem, ranking up there with the problem of using a huge variety of printers. But then came vi and it didn't need function keys, arrow keys or meta keys. I could finally have a full screen text editor on ANY terminal I chose. With a tiny handful of commands I could be productive. In comparison to the other editors, it was easy to use. At the time vi was a huge step forward.
Modern interfaces with mice and menus and toolbars may have made vi somewhat obsolete, but I would still rather write software using vi than with <hack> MSWord...
p.s. The problem with emacs was that it requried two meta keys, which weren't always available, and even if they were, may be in different keyboard locations under different names. It also required chording which slows down typing (especially if you weren't sure where the meta keys were on this keyboard). And as other people have pointed at, at the time you were guaranteed that vi would be available on any Unix system, while access to emacs was hit or miss.
VIM was never meant to be an embedded GUI component, hence the problems KVim had. They could have made it a standalone app, like GVim, but they really wanted a component based app, so you could use it in Konqueror, KDevelop, etc. Some people talk about synching the GTK+ and Qt event loops, but what do you do when the underlying engine doesn't even have an event loop? They got it to work, but the headache was such that they abandoned the project. KDE 4 is going to have a new VI component, Yzis.
Having spent many, many long years playing the origingal CoC rules (going back many years before d20 even existed), I'm afraid we will just have to agree to disagree. I find it to be a very clumsy, poorly designed system which was only invented because, in the days before Open Gaming Licenses, a company could not create a roleplaying game without first re-inventing the wheel and producing their own systems of basic mechanics.
Just because you don't like a rules system doesn't mean it's crap. That is what I mean by "snobbery". If the original white cover D&D was so bloody perfect that Chaosium should have used it instead of writing their own rules, then how come WoTC eventually threw out the entire system TSR-D&D system for d20?
Why do you think "modern business software development solutions" is the only kind of software out there?
Not everyone is a Linux user. Until several weeks ago, installing Java on FreeBSD was a royal pain in the ass, because it was ILLEGAL to distribute prebuilt binaries. It still is on OpenBSD and NetBSD. You GNU users are far to complacent towards proprietary software.
No, he means it should work like CPAN does! Didn't you even read his post?
.net), all you need is the language. You don't need a gargantuan mandatory library, just a tiny standard library, or sometimes none at all. Java has nice no-nonsense semantics, but it is unfortunately bogged down by a monstrosity of a runtime.
With Perl, or Python, or C/C++, or virtually everything else besides Java (and
I don't care how speedy your connection is, you can only click so fast on all those Sun license agreements.
Go go gadget out sourced parenting.
I just don't understand the modern mindset. On one side is the demand that children be given complete and total freedom. On the other is the demand that we put them under total continuous surveillance.
As good progressive liberals we must allow our nine year olds to watch any movie they want, dress like whores if they want, and have mixed gender sleepovers if they want. If we don't do this we will sexually repress our children and they will grow into Republicans. But we can't leave them alone for five minutes on the computer or we're bad parents.
Last I heard child pornography was illegal. But given the current support for Google on this issue, I can only surmise that protests in favor of child porn will be coming soon to a city near you.
It's like inviting someone to a party & you agree that they can bring their "affiliates" along. Your invitee shows up with 20 strangers & whoever you have working the door says "I don't know all these people, they aren't allowed in."
This is why I don't invite Linux companies to parties. A significant portion of my spam is coming form "affiliates" of Linux companies. On some days they even outnumber the scammers. I fear the day some Linux company opens shop in Nigeria...
No one claimed it didn't exist for a mute. Also, lets try to get freedom of Speech correct; it covers pretty much all forms of expression, not just the spoken or typed word.
I know that. You know that. Everyone else knows that. You're missing the point.
That's why Call of Cthulu released a d20 book. Their original system was crap...
What an effing snob you are! The only reason there's a d20 CoC is because 90% of the gaming market REFUSES to even look at a game without a d20 logo. The BRP system (the underlying rules for CoC) is one of the most elegant rules system out there. Easy, simple, effect, generic. It most definitely is not crap.
But a good GM can tweak ANY rule set to work the way they want it to work.
I know a guy who has spent six months trying to squeeze a low-fantasy realistic medieval setting into the d20 rules. This is something people can do with Runequst, GURPS or Fudge over a weekend. The problem he is having is that d20 was designed for high fantasy absurdist settings. I say "absurdist", because there is no attempt whatsoever at realism. That's not a bad thing, but it does mean it's ill-suited towards many campaigns and settings.
D&D and nearly every other d20 game centers around challenges to the players. Hence the emphasis on feats and special items. But not every game is this way. Runequest, for example, centers around the character himself, and his goals, asperations and quests. Hence Runequests emphasis on skills and an almost complete lack of feat-like special abilities.
Ask a D&D player about his character, and he will talk about his magic sword, or his multi-class, or the monsters he has slain, or his followers. But ask a Runequest player about his charact, and he will actually talk about his character! He'll talk about his background, what he does for a living, who his friends are, what his goals are, etc. That's stereotyping, to be sure, but it's a stereotype that fits.
D&D players aren't roleplaying, they're rollplaying. There's nothing wrong with that, as it's a legitimate style of play. I just wish they woulnd't be so hostile towards other games.
I am not a game-system snob. I am an anti-snob. It is the D&D players who are the snobs. They won't buy a supplement unless it has the d20 logo, even if it's a completely generic supplement that doesn't have system-specific rules in it. They won't even bother trying other game systems, even systems far easier to use than D&D/d20. These people NEVER sign up for alternate games at conventions, something that is routine for players of every other system.
China censors its internet, and Bush gets the blame. Who wrote this report? Oh yeah, Reporters without Borders, I should have guessed...
You're picking nits. A right is something that can be defended, regardless of whether or not you personally are able to defend it.
Just because you happen to be a mute doesn't mean that the right to free speech does not exist.
p.s. Oh, and here's me exercising my right of free speech: John McCain can go bugger himself.
I remember that one too. I so it on the west coast, and everyone I know who remembers seeing it, saw it on the west coast. Were there more than one master print? Was it edited out before it reached the rest of the world?
You want to maintain a healthy marriage? Don't insult your wife.
You want to get good service at a restaurant? Don't insult the waiter.
You want to keep your project funding? Don't insult the guy paying you.
This isn't about free speech, it's about tact. Thousands of university professors wear their politics on their sleeves, yet they manage to keep their funding. That's because they tend to use a modicum of tact. It's a lesson Theo would do well to learn.
When you get down to small and independent publishers, there are hundreds of new and upcoming RPG products.
Frankly, I'm surprised Slashdot even bothered to mention the existance of GURPS. That's because D&D is the Microsoft/McDonalds/Budweiser of the roleplaying industry. I outgrew D&D around the time the third pubic hair came in. Three and a half editions later and I still have no desire to play it. Give me Runequest, Rolemaster, CoC, HârnMaster, HARP, Fudge, etc.
Windows user upon learning of the existance of another OS: "It's too much work to learn something new. It's too confusing. It doesn't run my favorite spyware."
D&D users upon learning of the existance of another RPG game: "It's too much work to learn new rules. It's too confusing. It won't support my twentieth level chaotic good halfelf ninja amazon mage."