Just wait until you are kicked out of a retail store, cause the computer says you are a shoplifter. My solution is a simple one. I won't be shopping at Borders anymore.
It appears to me that he didn't want to inform the security flaw to the competing ISP.
It looks to me like he simply wanted to sway the customers over to his company, and use the security flaw for the reason.
ya ya ya, I'll get modded down for this, but I do think there is more to the story.
He should have contacted the other company, and the FBI should do better things with their time.
Not a good example.
Posting anonymously on a web forum, and sending e-mail to a specific recipient are two different things.
First of all, you choose to participate in the web forum, and your welcome to post comments, rebottles, ect.
Besides, criticizing a cooperation for something you feel is wrong, and trying to sell you a penile enlargement, or refinance your home mortgage are quite different methods of speech.
Mayor Dick Greco, however, has said the system is no more intrusive than the cameras found in banks and shopping malls.
If my bank sent my photo to the police department to be stored into a database of presumably innocent people for the same purpose as this, I would consider this quite
Intrusive.
As far as what happend to Milliron, I feel sorry for the guy. But this kind of thing happens all the time without the use of this technology. Innocent people are convicted all the time of false identification.
Just imagine if this woman in Oklahoma accused him of rape, robbery, or something less defendable than child neglect, for a kid that wasn't his!
You can bet the Tampa bay police would have been all over Milliron like a fly on shit, hoping to prove the success of their new system.
This man is actually lucky in my eyes.
I really don't think Milliron has any legal recourse, cause these photos where taken in public, but I'm no attorney, so wtf do I know.
The way they are using this surveillance technology is just wrong.
While Gator is free, the company that makes it sells keywords to marketers that lets them launch pop-ups at opportune moments--for example, when a Web surfer visits a competing site.
Oh great, at least there's something positive about Gator.
It's free:)
Let's put this into a different perspective.
I'm sorry someone hijacked your car sir, but at least they did it for free.
I really don't get why there's such a community uproar over link-insertion--either this, or IE's Smart Tags. The whole friggin' interweb was founded on the idea of the hyperlink--that you click on a term, and it takes you to other like terms
Yea, make this arguement for the sake of Knowledge and information,
Not for commercial exploitation. I don't think the founders of the internet were interested in hyper socks and cd's, in the interest of Commerce.
I almost posted a story on this myself.
I'm a developer for a Candle Company, and have spent the last few months finishing up the companies online shopping cart.
Shortly after installing this software on my work machine, to my horror I saw links on my candle site directing me to another online business selling candles!
It didn't take long to figure out what was going on with my pc, but if this trojan (yes, it's a trojan virus in my opinion) was installed on my wifes computer, she would be hopelessly stuck with it, not knowing what to do.
I removed this software, and e-mailed the person who recommended it to me with my opinions.
what a bunch of crap.
Are you sure you work for an ISP?
Obviously not in the IT department.
Having your server configured to use the ORBS database, and having an open relay are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
You can close your open-relay server, and continue to allow your users to be bombarded with e-mail.
If you want to be real nice, and you have customers with virtual domains, you can run one server wide open (they get all mail+spam) and one mail server with ORDB,ORBL, or something else.
you DON'T have to have an open-relay to do this.
ORBS is no longer in existance btw.
About 80% of the mail I get at my house is unsolicited and 95% of the phone calls I get are salesmen.
95% of your phone calls are salesman????
you must be one big sucker!
Ya, this same argument is used when discussing censoring the entire internet. Ever though about running for office?
Spammers aren't the only ones I blame. I run a small mail server (less than 1k messages a day), and every night I e-mail ISP's informing them of open relays, and dialup customers abusing their systems. I have received a few auto-replies, and not ONE god damn response from someone who cares.
I'd like to assume that most people are way too busy fixing the problem, but the same culprits keep showing up in my mail log.
When discussing legal action against spammers, I think the same legal repercussions should be directed to ISP's who don't know/care how to run a mail server.
Roll out some more free wireless, so I can quit paying 300$ a month for it!!!!
We got our wireless T1 a week ago, and it's not half bad. We have a Breezecom SA-10 going point to point between two office buildings.
www.breezecom.com
Of course, the day before we were suppose to get it installed (a month ago), Lightning hit the main transmitter, and destroyed all their equipment.:O
Ya, fixing this would be cheap. probably only take a day, but I figured I'd list my house with this in the ad. There are plenty of techies looking for homes, and I'm sure someone else could use it when I leave.
[blockquote]That is assuming of course that Slackware doesnt already have a Slackware package for that dependent package. And if it did, and you decide to install that instead of compiling the source, how would that be any different from using an RPM or DEB? [/blockquote]
For starters, I can at least get things to compile on Slackware! some people find that a plus.
you really want to push Linux... send new users to a user-friendly distro. Not Slackware.
So, in order to push Linux, you think we need "Windoes" looking clones?
Or gay RPM packages?
If you want to push Linux, you should introduce people to an Operating System that requires people to think for themselves. Slackware is where I started, and from there moved to BSD and Solaris. I doubt I would know HALF what I know now, if I was dumbed down by Redhat or Mandrake.
Not that these are good Operating Systems, but they don't rank anywhere near Slackware.
Shit, I can't even get anything to compile on RH7.1 without some gay RPM to throw at it.
Fuck them if they can't take a joke - J.R. "Bob" Dobbs
"What I don't understand is why so many people say that this is clearly the US's fault"
What, you mean China and Vietnam right?
Oh yea, that is about 1/6 the population of the world.:P
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Just wait until you are kicked out of a retail store, cause the computer says you are a shoplifter. My solution is a simple one. I won't be shopping at Borders anymore.
It's common Christian BS to make claims like this.
If people like you had your way, we would still believe that the earth was flat.
It appears to me that he didn't want to inform the security flaw to the competing ISP.
It looks to me like he simply wanted to sway the customers over to his company, and use the security flaw for the reason.
ya ya ya, I'll get modded down for this, but I do think there is more to the story.
He should have contacted the other company, and the FBI should do better things with their time.
everything else has spellcheck. why can't slashcode?
Not a good example. Posting anonymously on a web forum, and sending e-mail to a specific recipient are two different things. First of all, you choose to participate in the web forum, and your welcome to post comments, rebottles, ect. Besides, criticizing a cooperation for something you feel is wrong, and trying to sell you a penile enlargement, or refinance your home mortgage are quite different methods of speech.
I'd love to know who sits around and caclulates all the 'millions' of dollars they are loosing. That's just a comment for the press.
I almost posted a story on this myself. I'm a developer for a Candle Company, and have spent the last few months finishing up the companies online shopping cart. Shortly after installing this software on my work machine, to my horror I saw links on my candle site directing me to another online business selling candles! It didn't take long to figure out what was going on with my pc, but if this trojan (yes, it's a trojan virus in my opinion) was installed on my wifes computer, she would be hopelessly stuck with it, not knowing what to do. I removed this software, and e-mailed the person who recommended it to me with my opinions. what a bunch of crap.
Are you sure you work for an ISP? Obviously not in the IT department. Having your server configured to use the ORBS database, and having an open relay are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. You can close your open-relay server, and continue to allow your users to be bombarded with e-mail. If you want to be real nice, and you have customers with virtual domains, you can run one server wide open (they get all mail+spam) and one mail server with ORDB,ORBL, or something else. you DON'T have to have an open-relay to do this. ORBS is no longer in existance btw.
About 80% of the mail I get at my house is unsolicited and 95% of the phone calls I get are salesmen. 95% of your phone calls are salesman???? you must be one big sucker!
Ya, this same argument is used when discussing censoring the entire internet. Ever though about running for office? Spammers aren't the only ones I blame. I run a small mail server (less than 1k messages a day), and every night I e-mail ISP's informing them of open relays, and dialup customers abusing their systems. I have received a few auto-replies, and not ONE god damn response from someone who cares. I'd like to assume that most people are way too busy fixing the problem, but the same culprits keep showing up in my mail log. When discussing legal action against spammers, I think the same legal repercussions should be directed to ISP's who don't know/care how to run a mail server.
They were going to call it Synaps, but...
Mankind. always stabbing the next guy in the back.
Ya, some things never change. Mankind has always stabbed the next guy in the back.
Roll out some more free wireless, so I can quit paying 300$ a month for it!!!! We got our wireless T1 a week ago, and it's not half bad. We have a Breezecom SA-10 going point to point between two office buildings. www.breezecom.com Of course, the day before we were suppose to get it installed (a month ago), Lightning hit the main transmitter, and destroyed all their equipment. :O
Ya, fixing this would be cheap. probably only take a day, but I figured I'd list my house with this in the ad. There are plenty of techies looking for homes, and I'm sure someone else could use it when I leave.
You can always just put the rack into your wall like I did. [url]http://www.atheosonline.com/niles/rack.jpg[/u rl]
[blockquote]That is assuming of course that Slackware doesnt already have a Slackware package for that dependent package. And if it did, and you decide to install that instead of compiling the source, how would that be any different from using an RPM or DEB? [/blockquote] For starters, I can at least get things to compile on Slackware! some people find that a plus.
Appears to work in FreeBSD just fine :)
Goggle was on NPR yesterday claiming they had no current interent in an IPO. what gives?
"What I don't understand is why so many people say that this is clearly the US's fault" What, you mean China and Vietnam right? Oh yea, that is about 1/6 the population of the world. :P
Ok, here's your logic: If mother nature can destroy this planet, then fuck it, well will too!