Everyday there is something negative about the Debian installer here on slashdot. Ok... so some people don't like it.
In my opinion it's really not, and never has been that bad. What it asks is very straight forward. You load drivers (through a menu) partition your disk, set up your network and go. Just because they don't auto detect your hardware doesn't make the install hard.
I actually started using Debian in '97 because the install was actually straight forward and well documented. I had tried slack and Redhat but they wouldn't cooperate.
And in comparison to that other os, Debian is cake. I don't know where it ever started that windows is easy to install... but it isn't. Ever installed windows on a board where the specific IDE chipset doesn't have the specific driver? Well your screwed unless you have mscdex.exe handy. Windows wouldn't even install on my most recent box.
Just because Debian leaves you some choices doesn't mean that it's hard.
It seems that there are a few people still in the dark about how Debian's distribution fits together.
We have 2 archives, and each has 3 sections. There is 1 official section in each archive. The two archives are the "regular/low fat/most of the stuff" archive, and the "non-US/don't mind me/watch out for the helicopters" archive. Software that breaks the US export control laws goes into the non-US archive.
Inside each archive are 3 sections, called "main", "contrib" and "non-free". The only part of the archive that we "officially" support is the "main" section. Every piece of software in the "main" section is compliant with the Debian Free Software Guidelines. This software is all GPL, MPL, BSD, [insert favourite free licence here] stuff. The "contrib" section stuff *would* be in the "main" section, except that it for some reason relies on something from the "non-free" section. "non-free" stuff is stuff that we are allowed to distribute, but does not fall under our Free Software Guidelines.
The official Debian cd images that come out with each distribution contain the regular/main, regular/contrib, non-US/main and non-US/contrib stuff, along with all the source. Of course, often to use much of the contrib stuff, you need to grab non-free stuff (many packages however only partly rely on non-free stuff, such as driver modules, this still gets them into contrib, but you can use them without non-free).
I heard Episode 2 will have the best (or worste, depending on how you see it) of both Jar-Jar and the Ewoks. It turns out that on the way home from Episode I, Jar-Jar stops off on Endor and through the wonder of Natural Genetic Manipulation, becomes father of a race of half-Gungan/half-Ewoks known as JarWoks.
They're cute, they're annoying, they're tribal. But best of all, polls show they appeal to the prime demographic that will heighten the ST:E2's profitab...er...appeal!
... if your email is comming from a POP server, just get a hotmail account, log in, enter your POP username/password, and get your mail. Now as for chatrooms, well i would understand a library not allowing you to do that.
I beg to differ. It really depends on how you use it. I use email to post questions to programming mailing lists to get help whenever i'm stumped. I've also used email at my university's library terminals to get help from professors from both email and also online courses using message boards. Sure, 90% of people who use email use it for 'chatty' purposes, but to say that nobody uses it to learn or do research is absurd.
I think your library has every right to do that. Besides what Argyle (the first poster to this thread) about protecting his children, chat and email allow one to send data to other people. What if someone started sending death threats or spam to other people from the terminal? If the library is found liable, that would probably be disasterous to them because libraries tend to be quite poor (at least american libraries are). This is somewhat similar to the argument against corporations blocking your ability to surf certain websites or screening your email.
I know a lot of libraries have public terminals that don't require a username/password, but one solution is to set up accounts and to make people sign agreements. That's what they did in my high school and several people had their accounts suspended because of pornography:) And in the case where someone does something illegal, the DMCA and other laws state that as long as the ISP (the library in this case) doesn't knowingly let it happen and they act on it if they are informed, then they're in the clear.
Ok i dont mean to troll here, and yes i probably will get modded down for this, but why does this post get a +4 informative?? I mean my god, how redundant can you get. This poster is just repeating about 10 posts below, but construed slightly differently.
Another thing came to mind: Metcalf's law. The power over the Internet is equal to 2 to the power of the number of nodes who are actually on the 'net. If you look at the graph of that, it's exponential. I figure in Gnutella's case, it's power would be inversely proportional to the graph.
Any comments?
UCLA is one of the top 3 competetive public universities out there. I can't IMAGINE UCLA having problems recruiting anyone to their school.
Why would you use Gnutella on the small scale?
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There are so many products out there that will do the same thing, with a much user friendly interface. In fact, Intel is making a Gnutella-like clone for corporate Intranet. Besides that, i'd rather have a centralized database and an application server that i could do searches with (if i were a system admin that is). Peer to peer applications have a greater tendancy to pose security risks.
Expanding your servers is actually scaling in Client/Server architectures. Why else do you think Napster doesn't have the same performance problems that Gnutella does? In the case of Gnutella though, expanding the peers is detrimental to performance.
When you're using peer to peer, not only are you as fast as the slowest link, but you must go through MANY more hops to do searches. Obviously a centralized service is going to scale better. How many times have you seen Yahoo bogged down (not counting the DOS attacks heh)? Anyone remember the worm program written by that Cornell student in which he unintentionally brought the Internet to it's knees? That was a peer to peer system as well.
What a coincidence, i'm doing a group paper in school about the napster case and we just happened to interview the network administrator here about it. He basically takes the same stance as the other universities on napster and other file sharing programs: "Hear no evil, see no evil." Also, the university respects privacy a lot and won't actively monitor network activity from students or faculty, unless they get a complaint , but even then, it's on a case by case basis. God bless America:>
I'm currently in the "Information Management and Technology" program at Syracuse University. While they do skimp on some of the technical skills (it seems like they want to stay vendor neutral or something), you learn a lot of usefull knowledge about the business side of IT as well as issues about new technologies etc. However, as the old saying goes, "college is not for everyone." You can be a perfectly good NT administrator by just getting your MCSE.
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Everyday there is something negative about the Debian installer here on slashdot. Ok... so some people don't like it. In my opinion it's really not, and never has been that bad. What it asks is very straight forward. You load drivers (through a menu) partition your disk, set up your network and go. Just because they don't auto detect your hardware doesn't make the install hard. I actually started using Debian in '97 because the install was actually straight forward and well documented. I had tried slack and Redhat but they wouldn't cooperate. And in comparison to that other os, Debian is cake. I don't know where it ever started that windows is easy to install... but it isn't. Ever installed windows on a board where the specific IDE chipset doesn't have the specific driver? Well your screwed unless you have mscdex.exe handy. Windows wouldn't even install on my most recent box. Just because Debian leaves you some choices doesn't mean that it's hard.
It seems that there are a few people still in the dark about how Debian's distribution fits together. We have 2 archives, and each has 3 sections. There is 1 official section in each archive. The two archives are the "regular/low fat/most of the stuff" archive, and the "non-US/don't mind me/watch out for the helicopters" archive. Software that breaks the US export control laws goes into the non-US archive. Inside each archive are 3 sections, called "main", "contrib" and "non-free". The only part of the archive that we "officially" support is the "main" section. Every piece of software in the "main" section is compliant with the Debian Free Software Guidelines. This software is all GPL, MPL, BSD, [insert favourite free licence here] stuff. The "contrib" section stuff *would* be in the "main" section, except that it for some reason relies on something from the "non-free" section. "non-free" stuff is stuff that we are allowed to distribute, but does not fall under our Free Software Guidelines. The official Debian cd images that come out with each distribution contain the regular/main, regular/contrib, non-US/main and non-US/contrib stuff, along with all the source. Of course, often to use much of the contrib stuff, you need to grab non-free stuff (many packages however only partly rely on non-free stuff, such as driver modules, this still gets them into contrib, but you can use them without non-free).
After searching the slashdot for matrix news, i'm surprised they didn't post the rumor about Jet Li being offered the lead role in Matrix II. *DROOLS*
Hey Independence Day was good the first 10 times i saw it :o)
I heard Episode 2 will have the best (or worste, depending on how you see it) of both Jar-Jar and the Ewoks. It turns out that on the way home from Episode I, Jar-Jar stops off on Endor and through the wonder of Natural Genetic Manipulation, becomes father of a race of half-Gungan/half-Ewoks known as JarWoks. They're cute, they're annoying, they're tribal. But best of all, polls show they appeal to the prime demographic that will heighten the ST:E2's profitab...er...appeal!
Oh yeah, find out the domain name of your POP server and add that in too *slaps own head* heh
... if your email is comming from a POP server, just get a hotmail account, log in, enter your POP username/password, and get your mail. Now as for chatrooms, well i would understand a library not allowing you to do that.
I mean common, netscape runs horribly and IE is the only thing microsoft has done right :o)
I beg to differ. It really depends on how you use it. I use email to post questions to programming mailing lists to get help whenever i'm stumped. I've also used email at my university's library terminals to get help from professors from both email and also online courses using message boards. Sure, 90% of people who use email use it for 'chatty' purposes, but to say that nobody uses it to learn or do research is absurd.
I think your library has every right to do that. Besides what Argyle (the first poster to this thread) about protecting his children, chat and email allow one to send data to other people. What if someone started sending death threats or spam to other people from the terminal? If the library is found liable, that would probably be disasterous to them because libraries tend to be quite poor (at least american libraries are). This is somewhat similar to the argument against corporations blocking your ability to surf certain websites or screening your email. I know a lot of libraries have public terminals that don't require a username/password, but one solution is to set up accounts and to make people sign agreements. That's what they did in my high school and several people had their accounts suspended because of pornography :) And in the case where someone does something illegal, the DMCA and other laws state that as long as the ISP (the library in this case) doesn't knowingly let it happen and they act on it if they are informed, then they're in the clear.
Ok i dont mean to troll here, and yes i probably will get modded down for this, but why does this post get a +4 informative?? I mean my god, how redundant can you get. This poster is just repeating about 10 posts below, but construed slightly differently.
Another thing came to mind: Metcalf's law. The power over the Internet is equal to 2 to the power of the number of nodes who are actually on the 'net. If you look at the graph of that, it's exponential. I figure in Gnutella's case, it's power would be inversely proportional to the graph. Any comments?
Thanks for repeating the exact same thing that i said :oP
UCLA is one of the top 3 competetive public universities out there. I can't IMAGINE UCLA having problems recruiting anyone to their school.
There are so many products out there that will do the same thing, with a much user friendly interface. In fact, Intel is making a Gnutella-like clone for corporate Intranet. Besides that, i'd rather have a centralized database and an application server that i could do searches with (if i were a system admin that is). Peer to peer applications have a greater tendancy to pose security risks.
Expanding your servers is actually scaling in Client/Server architectures. Why else do you think Napster doesn't have the same performance problems that Gnutella does? In the case of Gnutella though, expanding the peers is detrimental to performance.
When you're using peer to peer, not only are you as fast as the slowest link, but you must go through MANY more hops to do searches. Obviously a centralized service is going to scale better. How many times have you seen Yahoo bogged down (not counting the DOS attacks heh)? Anyone remember the worm program written by that Cornell student in which he unintentionally brought the Internet to it's knees? That was a peer to peer system as well.
I seriously hope you're not comparing people who freely distribute their software to the money grubbing corporations that we call the music industry.
Sounds like they used the bandwidth issue just as an excuse to not get into any legal battles.
What a coincidence, i'm doing a group paper in school about the napster case and we just happened to interview the network administrator here about it. He basically takes the same stance as the other universities on napster and other file sharing programs: "Hear no evil, see no evil." Also, the university respects privacy a lot and won't actively monitor network activity from students or faculty, unless they get a complaint , but even then, it's on a case by case basis. God bless America :>
Shouldn't they make sure they're able to get their 1 Giggers out before they make such plans?
Dual Monitor for Linux... YUMMY
Bill Gates must have "Strong Arms", if you get my drift :o)
I'm currently in the "Information Management and Technology" program at Syracuse University. While they do skimp on some of the technical skills (it seems like they want to stay vendor neutral or something), you learn a lot of usefull knowledge about the business side of IT as well as issues about new technologies etc. However, as the old saying goes, "college is not for everyone." You can be a perfectly good NT administrator by just getting your MCSE.
Hehe good one :)