How did you get Red Hat 7.3 to install in 20Mb? Red Hat's minimum recommended install is 64Mb, and you can get away with 48Mb, but you must have done some exciting tweaking to get it to install in 20Mb!
Also what desktop are you running? I've had no success with either Gnome or KDE in 32Mb. And what window manager?
Your response, which depends upon the argument that the elision of crucial words in common phrases is to be assumed, belies your own pedantry. You argue that "Hat's off to you USC" means "_My_ Hat_ is_ off to you USC". Obviously you are modestly understating your abilities in the field of mind-reading and can tell that the "My" is what the poster intended. Well done.
Yet you claim that "I'd have to repeat that the original poster also should be assumed to have meant what he wrote [...]". Ah, forsooth![1] Methinks that you don't really believe this because otherwise you would have to accept that he wrote a sentence without a subject which _is_, no matter which way you chop your logic, grammatically incorrect.
To be both petty and incorrect is egregiously fuckwitted.
I'm afraid that I'm unfamiliar with that state of affairs and I defer to your greater experience.
1. Lest you wonder at my egregious use of these words let me point out that I object highly to the use of archaisms which trip lightly from the tongue of the uneducated in a rodomontade, Wardour-Streetesque display of false ornamentation. The Common Man (of whom I am a shining example) likes his common phrases expressed in a simple and common manner. The breaking up of their usual form with interesting apostrophes which suggest common grammatical mistakes and could only be interpreted by a truly petty pedant as being a grammatically correct, but uncommon, form of the usual expression disturbs me. I like to keep it clean, simple and correct. Narrow minded, pointy-headed, pencil-necked, schoolboy-brained idiots may disagree with me, but that just makes me more certain that simplicity and adherence to some basic rules makes life easier for all.
In other words, what's the total energy cost of the product (production, distribution, use) and what percentage are you actually saving? Is it the equivilent of not running the A/C in your 400-cubic-inch-V8-powered SUV because it gives you a tiny payback in gas mileage?
And your argument is that the guy in the SUV who saves 1 out of every 10,000 Watts he expends would be better off running the A/C? Even if the other 100,000 SUV users also do the same and between them they consume 100,000 Watts less? Huh?!!!
So a biodiesel powered generator that burns soy oil and creates carbon dioxide is banned, but a human powered generator that burns soybeans and creates carbon dioxide as well, but does so at a lower efficiency isn't.
All right. Let's see the figures that show that a biodiesel generator is "more efficient" than a guy on a bike at producing power? Note that "efficiency" in this argument is specifically "efficiency in production of electrical energy per unit of carbon dioxide released". I am deeply skeptical that a biodiesel generator could come anywhere near to a guy on a bike providing power as-and-when it is needed. The generator probably needs to run continuously producing the same amount of CO2 regardless of the actual load upon it. A bike powered generator just needs someone to hop on and start pedalling. Please note that in your calculations you have to use _only_ the extra CO2 produced by the pedalling human above his normal basal level of respiration.
1. It's not "piracy". The very use of the word conflates the murder, rape and plunder of the passengers of sailing vessels with giving a free copy of a Britney Spears song to a buddy
2. They're not going after the "pirates", they *are* going after the *technology*: they ban P2P networks because the 9th Circuit found that most people that use P2P use it for swapping copyrighted material. You are COMPLETELY wrong on this point.
3. "Hat's off to you, USC" is ungrammatical. It means either "Hat is off to you, USC" or " belonging to Hat off to you USC".
If you're going to troll about filesharing make sure that you are both correct and cogent.
In Linux, you have to figure out who made the chipset on your card, which often isn't labeled on the box or in the manual, so requires some guessing or googling. An easy-to-find example is the emu10k1 for Soundblaster Live cards (this is actually documented by Creative);
That does it very easily and nicely. How much does it take to figure that out? If you're not capable of that then one of the recent releases of Red Hat, SuSE or Mandrake will autoconfigure it for you. I've had that particular card set up automatically with NO intervention on my part by the last two releases of Red Hat.
What you argue may be true for very arcane hardware or may have been true 6 months ago, but it's hard to support that position now.
How about a hardware compatibility list. I would expect something like that straight off of kernel.org. Why should I search through message boards to see if someone was able to get my ethernet card to work,
Have you looked at this yet? Please add your own hardware details.
Good counter example is with the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power: before Enron were recognized as breaking the rules that favored them by giving them public-goods for a song, they were not popular in California because of how their "free-market" screwed up power supply. LADWP (gross, corrupt government bureaucracy that it was) was able to provide power with no blackouts, brownouts or interruptions during the long, hot summer of 2001. Immediately abutting LA city was Santa Monica City, (they're so contiguous that you'd find it hard to know where one stopped and the other started) which had bought into the "get government out of public services and bring in the robber barons instead" myth. They had blackouts.
Privatizing some things doesn't make sense: it's too hard to separate out the costs and benefits, too hard to prevent local profit-driven corruption, too hard to do anything without creating a less-efficient regulation regime which is government in all but name.
Having spent some years in the UK and Ireland in the late 80's I can say that I found British TV superiour to US/Canadian TV. A recent return visit last year made me feel that the dumbing-down had spread. I remember Channel 4 news with special fondness (it seemed much more substantial than most news shows) and also Horizon (BBC2 ?). I also like British radio, BBC4 especially. That still seems pretty good.
I'm all for licenses. They make a chance for there to be decent well-funded programming uniterrupted by crap ads every few minutes at inappropriate moments. Perhaps they should lower them and make it point-of-sale with every new receiver though. I remember my housemate getting busted by a TV-detection van. It seemed like bullshit to me...they came to the door and asked him had he got a TV set and he said yes and they asked if he had a license and he said no. Basically his guilty conscience gave him away. Can they really detect the presence of a TV receiving appartus or is it just door to door hoping to catch the weak-minded like my buddy?
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I'm not sure what the save current settings option does when one logs out but I don't think it works right.
It's supposed to be able to return you to the exact state in terms of running applications. Are you sure that you've done this (from the Nautilus help manual):
1.Open the GNOME Main Menu (footprint) and choose Programs->Settings->SessionStartup Programs. (The menu option may be Session Properties and Startup Programs.)
2. The GNOME Control Center opens in the Session Properties and Startup Programs section. If you see a Startup Programs tab, click it.
Make sure the checkbox labeled "Automatically save changes to session" is enabled. (If your GNOME Control Center window has tabs, this checkbox is under the Session Options tab.)
And also upon MainMenu->Logout->SaveCurrentSetup is checked? I suspect that you need to take the actions above.
One other problem I encountered had to do with printing. Null was the first Redhat I've tried that detected my printer (epson c80) during the install, however it did not get setup properly and automatically, the reboot sequence displayed Fail for lpd, no printer configured.
Have you tried using CUPS? It's worked perfectly for me when I switched from using the LPrng printing system. I also made sure that I had gimp-print and foomatic packages installed and it works very nicely. Try using the/usr/bin/redhat-switch-printer command to switch over to cups. (The RH redhat-switch-X commands work with a re-implementation of Debian's "alternatives" system).
But have you never worked in a situation where you were one of several other junior sysadmins and not everyone else was as careful as yourself? Training people to use vipw and vigr is very useful in certain situations.
Also I don't really get your CVS vs RCS style locking point. Care to expand?
When Microsoft keeps the user busy without having to download additional software, it's considered anti-competitive.
No, the anti-competitive part is making it hard/impossible to dump the builtin browser, not providing documentation for file-formats, leaning on hardware manufacturers to design their hardware to work with Win and not with *nix.
Give me a good application search/install/update facility (Debian apt, anyone?), but PLEASE don't give me a crapload of built-in things to 'keep me busy for years'.
CUPS is also excellent in GNOME (as one would expect given that it uses the browser). Since I installed it all has been sweetness and light on the printing front. If anyone is having printing hassles they should check-it-out
Is there some way to find out what files a package will install without installing it? This has always driven me nuts. Yup, this should do if for you! (ps if you just wanted to see what docs it installed you'd do a qdp instead).
rpm -qlp somepackage.x.y-i386.rpm
You should checkout Ed Bailey's "Maximum RPM" book. It's availabel online here
I would also like to see "source rpms" that take a long time to install,
is FreeGL. OpenGL exposes open standards that are available to all, that are "open". It's this sort of confusion that has made the Free Software Foundation emphasize freedom instead of the nebulous openness.
Why have you decided to use GNU/Linux? On your website you say that:
I want to be all the way independent of Macrohard, so that no more Doors slam on my tender fingers. We'll see; stay tuned for future reports.
Specifically what is it that you, as an author, have found irritating about using Micrsoft products in your work?
In note that you also say:
It remains far behind on personal systems, but at such time as the Linux nerds catch on to the importance of user friendliness, that should change. Before too long I hope to get the ear of some of them, even if they don't necessarily like what I say.
So, what don't you like so far? What do you want us to improve? Are there any author-specific tools that you miss from Microsoft? Cheers, crush
was the original author. The story was "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale". Good movie, well realized, but IMHO the short-story was better, there was more than one level of uncertainty about whether or not the whole experience was a hallucinatory holiday. IIRC the short story ended up with the revelation that the hero had saved mini-space aliens that could destroy the earth. They were grateful to the hero so the Govt. couldn't kill him.
Still, a good movie.
I've been working with computers for some 25 years now on mainframes, minis and PCs, and I've yet to find an OS that can be guaranteed to upgrade 100% cleanly on top of another installation.
Well, let's separate two different issues:
UPGRADE: moving from one version of a distribution to another. This is handled by the installer released with each version of the distribution. There were problems with RH7.1 -> 7.2 for a few cases. In 27 systems I had none from 7.2 -> 7.3. I did one simple home-workstation upgrade from 7.1 -> 7.3 with no problems.
UPDATE: applying patches, bugfixes, new application versions to a static distribution. I agree with you that for many situations I prefer to do each change manually in order to see what's going on. You can do this with up2date: it allows you to retrieve, but not install the packages. Then you can examine each one to see what the changes are going to be. Then apply it. Up2date is actually very configurable. I mostly just use it as a way of retrieving RedHat's )suggested_ fixes. Mostly I find them to be perfect.
Yeah, but you get one FREE (beer) registration with each installed version. Furthermore, if you are on a really tight budget and don't feel that you can afford to pay RedHat for the service (which includes announcements of updates with the reasons, plus pretty good servers) then you can download errata rpms from RH's ftp servers, and point up2date to your local repository. Personally I think that this is more trouble then it's worth and it deprives the RedHat developers of a revenue stream that is reasonable.
But, each to his own. The three options are open to you:
Buy RH boxed set and register and get updates
Register ONE free system
Do the download scheme suggested above
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Yup, there's a nice little app called "up2date" which you should take a look at. This allows you to get the latest rpms from the Red Hat Network. It's pretty good actually.
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How did you get Red Hat 7.3 to install in 20Mb? Red Hat's minimum recommended install is 64Mb, and you can get away with 48Mb, but you must have done some exciting tweaking to get it to install in 20Mb!
Also what desktop are you running? I've had no success with either Gnome or KDE in 32Mb. And what window manager?
Yet you claim that "I'd have to repeat that the original poster also should be assumed to have meant what he wrote [...]". Ah, forsooth![1] Methinks that you don't really believe this because otherwise you would have to accept that he wrote a sentence without a subject which _is_, no matter which way you chop your logic, grammatically incorrect.
To be both petty and incorrect is egregiously fuckwitted.
I'm afraid that I'm unfamiliar with that state of affairs and I defer to your greater experience.
1. Lest you wonder at my egregious use of these words let me point out that I object highly to the use of archaisms which trip lightly from the tongue of the uneducated in a rodomontade, Wardour-Streetesque display of false ornamentation. The Common Man (of whom I am a shining example) likes his common phrases expressed in a simple and common manner. The breaking up of their usual form with interesting apostrophes which suggest common grammatical mistakes and could only be interpreted by a truly petty pedant as being a grammatically correct, but uncommon, form of the usual expression disturbs me. I like to keep it clean, simple and correct. Narrow minded, pointy-headed, pencil-necked, schoolboy-brained idiots may disagree with me, but that just makes me more certain that simplicity and adherence to some basic rules makes life easier for all.
In other words, what's the total energy cost of the product (production, distribution, use) and what percentage are you actually saving? Is it the equivilent of not running the A/C in your 400-cubic-inch-V8-powered SUV because it gives you a tiny payback in gas mileage?
And your argument is that the guy in the SUV who saves 1 out of every 10,000 Watts he expends would be better off running the A/C? Even if the other 100,000 SUV users also do the same and between them they consume 100,000 Watts less? Huh?!!!
So a biodiesel powered generator that burns soy oil and creates carbon dioxide is banned, but a human powered generator that burns soybeans and creates carbon dioxide as well, but does so at a lower efficiency isn't.
All right. Let's see the figures that show that a biodiesel generator is "more efficient" than a guy on a bike at producing power? Note that "efficiency" in this argument is specifically "efficiency in production of electrical energy per unit of carbon dioxide released".
I am deeply skeptical that a biodiesel generator could come anywhere near to a guy on a bike providing power as-and-when it is needed. The generator probably needs to run continuously producing the same amount of CO2 regardless of the actual load upon it. A bike powered generator just needs someone to hop on and start pedalling. Please note that in your calculations you have to use _only_ the extra CO2 produced by the pedalling human above his normal basal level of respiration.
No. "Hats off to X" is an imperative which indicates to the audience "Gentlemen, let us now raise our hats in a salute to the fine folks at USC".
If you're going to troll about filesharing make sure that you are both correct and cogent.
In Linux, you have to figure out who made the chipset on your card, which often isn't labeled on the box or in the manual, so requires some guessing or googling. An easy-to-find example is the emu10k1 for Soundblaster Live cards (this is actually documented by Creative);
That's a terrible example:
That does it very easily and nicely. How much does it take to figure that out? If you're not capable of that then one of the recent releases of Red Hat, SuSE or Mandrake will autoconfigure it for you. I've had that particular card set up automatically with NO intervention on my part by the last two releases of Red Hat.What you argue may be true for very arcane hardware or may have been true 6 months ago, but it's hard to support that position now.
How about a hardware compatibility list. I would expect something like that straight off of kernel.org. Why should I search through message boards to see if someone was able to get my ethernet card to work,
Have you looked at this yet? Please add your own hardware details.
Good counter example is with the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power: before Enron were recognized as breaking the rules that favored them by giving them public-goods for a song, they were not popular in California because of how their "free-market" screwed up power supply. LADWP (gross, corrupt government bureaucracy that it was) was able to provide power with no blackouts, brownouts or interruptions during the long, hot summer of 2001. Immediately abutting LA city was Santa Monica City, (they're so contiguous that you'd find it hard to know where one stopped and the other started) which had bought into the "get government out of public services and bring in the robber barons instead" myth. They had blackouts.
Privatizing some things doesn't make sense: it's too hard to separate out the costs and benefits, too hard to prevent local profit-driven corruption, too hard to do anything without creating a less-efficient regulation regime which is government in all but name.
Give it up.
Having spent some years in the UK and Ireland in the late 80's I can say that I found British TV superiour to US/Canadian TV. A recent return visit last year made me feel that the dumbing-down had spread. I remember Channel 4 news with special fondness (it seemed much more substantial than most news shows) and also Horizon (BBC2 ?). I also like British radio, BBC4 especially. That still seems pretty good.
I'm all for licenses. They make a chance for there to be decent well-funded programming uniterrupted by crap ads every few minutes at inappropriate moments. Perhaps they should lower them and make it point-of-sale with every new receiver though. I remember my housemate getting busted by a TV-detection van. It seemed like bullshit to me...they came to the door and asked him had he got a TV set and he said yes and they asked if he had a license and he said no. Basically his guilty conscience gave him away. Can they really detect the presence of a TV receiving appartus or is it just door to door hoping to catch the weak-minded like my buddy?
It's supposed to be able to return you to the exact state in terms of running applications. Are you sure that you've done this (from the Nautilus help manual):
And also upon MainMenu->Logout->SaveCurrentSetup is checked? I suspect that you need to take the actions above.
Have you tried using CUPS? It's worked perfectly for me when I switched from using the LPrng printing system. I also made sure that I had gimp-print and foomatic packages installed and it works very nicely. Try using the /usr/bin/redhat-switch-printer command to switch over to cups. (The RH redhat-switch-X commands work with a re-implementation of Debian's "alternatives" system).
But have you never worked in a situation where you were one of several other junior sysadmins and not everyone else was as careful as yourself? Training people to use vipw and vigr is very useful in certain situations.
Also I don't really get your CVS vs RCS style locking point. Care to expand?
Well, it was probably a 7.4962 and the reviewer decided to round up for brevity's sake and in order not to convey a false impression of precision.
CUPS is to be found here. Sorry about that!
CUPS is also excellent in GNOME (as one would expect given that it uses the browser). Since I installed it all has been sweetness and light on the printing front. If anyone is having printing hassles they should check-it-out
is FreeGL. OpenGL exposes open standards that are available to all, that are "open". It's this sort of confusion that has made the Free Software Foundation emphasize freedom instead of the nebulous openness.
In note that you also say: So, what don't you like so far? What do you want us to improve? Are there any author-specific tools that you miss from Microsoft?
Cheers,
crush
was the original author. The story was "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale". Good movie, well realized, but IMHO the short-story was better, there was more than one level of uncertainty about whether or not the whole experience was a hallucinatory holiday. IIRC the short story ended up with the revelation that the hero had saved mini-space aliens that could destroy the earth. They were grateful to the hero so the Govt. couldn't kill him. Still, a good movie.
But, each to his own. The three options are open to you:
Yup, there's a nice little app called "up2date" which you should take a look at. This allows you to get the latest rpms from the Red Hat Network. It's pretty good actually.