ResNet services and wiring may not be modified or extended beyond the area of their intended use. This applies to all network, hardware, computer lab and in-room data jacks.
This one is questionable, since it does (or can) extend use outside the room.
So could a really long cable. The area of his intended use is Residence (hence the name ResNet), and I fail to see how using wireless instead of a really long cable changes that.
ResNet may not be used to provide the University of Colorado computer services or Internet access to anyone outside of the Residence Halls community for any purposes (other than those in direct support of the academic mission of the University).
Aside from the inherent insecurities in WEP, they may not be sure you
are even using WEP, which would (or certainly could) provide access to
others outside of your residence halls
This is a better point, but he's not using ResNet to provide outsiders with access. If they hack his basestation, he did not provide them with access, they stole his. Totally different ballgame. More so if he really locks down access.
* The University of Colorado specific or commercially obtained network resources may not be retransmitted outside of the University community.
And not being sure about the location or range, this could also apply.
It says "community" not property, and since he's a paying student, wherever he goes, the community goes.
So, while those terms could be mistaken to apply, if you look carefully, each point can be refuted.
It might be easier to just get your neighbour's kid to agree to the EULA. Since he's underage, it's not binding, but the software still runs. There you go, no legal problems.
Re:Dirty Pool! But also confusing.
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Abusing the GPL?
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And source code is HUMAN READABLE
lol so are you saying perl code can't be licensed under the GPL?
good point though. pretty much answers his question.
I really hate to do this, because murder is the ultimate evil; but I think you're being unfair here. First, terrorism is not the same as murder. Some terrorists use murder to create TERROR, hence the name terrorist. It is terrorism to run into a square and claim that you'll hunt down every person there -AND NEVER HURT ANYONE-, just as long as they get terrified.
Second, why can't he compare them? Watch. Murder is really really bad. Monopolies are bad. There. I compared them. I hope the really really imparts a sense of many orders of magnitude.
And try to think long term too. Microsoft is apparently in a position to buy the DOJ (if you would believe the posters here). Suppose that you do "nothing wrong" in your mind, but microsoft decides you have. They set the DOJ on you, you go to "re-education" and your family doesn't see you again. Sure, it's far-fetched. But it's not impossible.
OTOH, if he's doing the comparison just because it's become the 'popular' comparison to make, then shame on him. Our lives are the most valuable things we humans possess. Don't make light of those that have lost theirs, or taken other people's.
Actually, I had a similar thought in a totally unrelated messageboard earlier today. Some people were compairing perfect societies, and then one guy mentioned that trying to have ONE perfect society was part of the problem, that things would be better if multiple societies found a way to coexist peacefully. He also cited the need for a central authority with restricted powers, with the sole function of ensuring the coexistance of the societies. It occured to me that he managed to reinvent the basic prinicpals of the founding fathers without even realizing it. In theory, the US is formed in the same way as his perfect society. He even used the cases of a redneck society where hunting and smoking and guns would be allowed, and his ideal place, with no smoking, no violence, etc. If the feds weren't getting power trippy, and the USA was still the united STATES of america, then he wouldn't even have to move to realize his dream.
So, I agree with you. Plus, the structure that you and he discribe fits in well with my belief that the free market/democracy don't scale well to large populations. By having smaller "governing bodies" composed of the people local to, and caring about, the issues, part of that scaling is solved.
Sadly enough, I agree with you that eventually consumer money would have put seatbelts in all cars. However, I do believe that in this case, government regulation did it faster.
Ideally, the government is just the public grouping up and combining resources. So maybe the people of the time wanted seatbelts, but the auto manufacturers weren't coming around, I don't know. The people take their collective will, and use it to pass regulation. In this case, it makes sense to me.
You can apply the free market argument here if you like, but I find that the free market breaks down as the market grows. Sure, in a small village, it works... if someone starts scamming everyone, then everyone else stops dealing with him. A success of the free market. Once the market is so big that no one knows anyone else, it encourages people like that scammer. Plus, someone mentioned it in another comment; once the consumers aren't aware of all the issues, then they can't excercise their free-market power, and the system breaks down.
This is the first clear response I've seen to this typical accusation of hypocrosy, and I'd like to commend you for your response. I've certainly made some mental notes from it to refute anyone who tries to accuse me of the same thing. Thanks.
You're missing an easier way of doing it. Suppose that the audio is only decoded when it's being fed right to the speakers. So, open the speaker, and snip the wires that drive it. Hook them up to your "xSpeakerz" and it records the audio for you. Open your monitor (ok, this one is less likely, and more deadly, but still) and hook up your "xVidz" to the wires that drive the electron gun and the magnets, and that records the motions. Feed those motions in to a CRT simulator, and you get the video back out.
So now you don't have to break the actual encryption, you just have to know how to interpret the analog signals, which is a well documented science.
As for open competition: we have NEVER had a monopoly that wasn't government created through subsidies and tariffs.
Do you not read slashdot? Have you missed all of the microsoft crap here every day? I seem to recall that microsoft has been found to me a monopoly. I seem to recall microsoft being spoon fed by IBM, not the government.
You're right. I mean, when the government FORCED auto manufacturers to put seatbelts in cars, very much against the wills of the manufacturers, people's lives were SAVED! Damn that regulation. If only we let the auto manufacturers not do anything, imagine how much better the world would be without seatbelts!
You're missing use #3, amateur developers. I believe that at the moment they're probably the largest market for such a device. Especially because it would be extremly cost-ineffecient to use it for either of your resons, whereas a hobbiest developer would get way more satisfaction for his money.
Damn straight. I run Win2k with a Radeon and a SB, and although CS never crashes, I'm sure that's because it's running too slowly to even get to that point. I mean, I upgraded my Voodoo2(!!) to play CS, and as soon as I threw Win2k on, I might as well go back to the system I had before the voodoo.
Make your standard slashbot comments about W2K, but this is a feature they got right.
I really have to agree with you on this one. I've bound my power button to hibernate, so I can just punch that, and my system goes down without messing anything up.
most of your apps will even reestablish their network connections without any fuss
The only app that has a problem with it in my experience is ICQ. The app itself runs ok, but it doesn't realize that it lost its connection, and so it looks like you're online, but you're really not. It's actually caused me to miss important messages and such. Oh well, it's easily fixed by disconnecting and reconnecting.
Isn't there a RunAs service that allows you to run apps (including a shell) as another user (including admin)?
I know my 2k box is running it.
Well, to answer my question, win2k definately has this service, I just seem to have broken it and can't run anything with it. I know I've used it successfully before though.
Very true. On the other hand, neither the current incarnation of the tick, nor the Simpsons show started from nowhere. Both did exist in some form or other before becoming shows.
Still, you're right in that success in a cartoon format !==> success in a live-action format.
You just triggered a thought for me. Technically, the Tick had lots of exposure before this live-action one was aired. It was a cartoon years ago. [I know everyone knows it was a cartoon, but nobody seems to be counting that as previous exposure]
I really should be moderating this whole thread as off-topic instead of posting, but oh well, I actually have a relevant FACT to add to the thread.
If you look at any data that the Canadian Atmospheric Environment Service, or the US equivalent have to provide, you'll note both that:
a) Canada _does_ have much lower pollution levels
b) A significant portion of the air pollution in Canada is thanks to winds blowing nice dirty US air up to Canada.
I really wish I had links to provide, but this information comes from discussions with scientists from AES.
This is by no means to come off as a flame or US-bashing, quite frankly I think that both the US and Canada are great, but different countries, and comparisons are like apples and oranges. Just felt like contributing some actual fact to your debate.
I hope you're addressing those other things to people in general, as opposed to specifically me, because you are refuting points I never actually state.
In essence, it appears that you and I agree. I think it was smart to up Arwen's role (I just personally wish it wasn't Liv Tylor; she just doesn't seem Elvish to me) to provide a more romantic element, I'm always a sucker for romance.
I never state that I think one of them got too much time, so I hope you're just targeting people who have been stating that.
Adding stuff is also necessary. I don't comlain that in Moria it was a skeleton instead of a rock being knocked down the well. The eye does come up in the books, but Jackson did a good job of making us FEEL the eye.
Basically, my main complaint, if not my only complaint, is that there was too much epic and too few moments. I'd like watching the characters trade insults. I'd like watching Gimli and Legolas bond. Another reply mentioned that there is more of Lorien in the cut scenes, so maybe the full version will end my complaints.
So in the end it looks like we're in agreement. Here's to extra footage.
Sure, why not? Besides, in my mind, it wouldn't take an extra 7 hours to add what they missed. I think PJ did an excellent job, however my main complaint was that Jackson focused to much on the 'epic' bits of the story, and so missed out on lots that made the adventure memorable for all the readers.
The problem is, the books are enjoyable because they tell a story, and they tell it well. I don't claim that Tolkien is the best author ever, but his attention to detail made the story more vivid (unlike Jordan's attention to EVERY FUCKING THING EVER which after chapters of talking made me want to burn his books... but I digress). Sure, the epic moments are, well, epic. But the smaller moments make the books feel more like a real story.
The whole Arwen/Glorfindal doesn't really bother me, the movie has to try to appeal to others than us nerds who've actually managed to finish the Silmarillion. However, I missed Legolas and Gimli's little tiffs and growing friendship. It was hinted at during the Counsil of Elrond, but not really explored. During the books, that whole relationship makes for an interesting and sometimes humorus departure from the main storyline.
I personally was pained by the way Lorien was glossed over. In the books, we get a sense of restfulness and relaxation. In the movie, they show up, Galadriel does her crazy weird freaky thing, then they leave. No rest, no relaxation. How about Gimli falling in love with Galadriel? When does he have a chance? He's only in the Woods for like 5 minutes. And that whole blindfolding thing when they enter the woods. That was key character development. arr.
Well, just a couple of things that've been bothering me. All-in-all, it seems to me that that 30-40 minutes of promised extra footage might just do the trick.
Yeah, it's really entertaining how many posts you see along the lines of "I lost my half-life key". My ass you lost it. That's the not-so-1337 way of saying "d00d,/\/\y cRaCKz s173 1z d0\/\/n Y0 - n33D hA1f1If3 k3y!"
It would appear that the US has approx 11x the economic output.
To me, it doesn't seem so suprising that the US pay ~11x more than Canada, based on that alone.
In any case, I agree that expecting the US to pay for all of the extra is unwise, but on the other hand, to complain that the US pay more? Why does Texas have more represntatives than Rhode Island?
Are you sure that's the case, or are you thinking American law? I remember the US gov't had to add some clauses that distributing copyrighted material without profit was illegal. Perhaps in Germany this hasn't been made illegal. We'd probably need a German lawyer to clear this one up.
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This one is questionable, since it does (or can) extend use outside the room.
So could a really long cable. The area of his intended use is Residence (hence the name ResNet), and I fail to see how using wireless instead of a really long cable changes that.
ResNet may not be used to provide the University of Colorado computer services or Internet access to anyone outside of the Residence Halls community for any purposes (other than those in direct support of the academic mission of the University).
Aside from the inherent insecurities in WEP, they may not be sure you are even using WEP, which would (or certainly could) provide access to others outside of your residence halls
This is a better point, but he's not using ResNet to provide outsiders with access. If they hack his basestation, he did not provide them with access, they stole his. Totally different ballgame. More so if he really locks down access.
* The University of Colorado specific or commercially obtained network resources may not be retransmitted outside of the University community.
And not being sure about the location or range, this could also apply.
It says "community" not property, and since he's a paying student, wherever he goes, the community goes.
So, while those terms could be mistaken to apply, if you look carefully, each point can be refuted.
It might be easier to just get your neighbour's kid to agree to the EULA. Since he's underage, it's not binding, but the software still runs. There you go, no legal problems.
lol so are you saying perl code can't be licensed under the GPL?
good point though. pretty much answers his question.
I really hate to do this, because murder is the ultimate evil; but I think you're being unfair here. First, terrorism is not the same as murder. Some terrorists use murder to create TERROR, hence the name terrorist. It is terrorism to run into a square and claim that you'll hunt down every person there -AND NEVER HURT ANYONE-, just as long as they get terrified.
Second, why can't he compare them? Watch. Murder is really really bad. Monopolies are bad. There. I compared them. I hope the really really imparts a sense of many orders of magnitude.
And try to think long term too. Microsoft is apparently in a position to buy the DOJ (if you would believe the posters here). Suppose that you do "nothing wrong" in your mind, but microsoft decides you have. They set the DOJ on you, you go to "re-education" and your family doesn't see you again. Sure, it's far-fetched. But it's not impossible.
OTOH, if he's doing the comparison just because it's become the 'popular' comparison to make, then shame on him. Our lives are the most valuable things we humans possess. Don't make light of those that have lost theirs, or taken other people's.
Actually, I had a similar thought in a totally unrelated messageboard earlier today. Some people were compairing perfect societies, and then one guy mentioned that trying to have ONE perfect society was part of the problem, that things would be better if multiple societies found a way to coexist peacefully. He also cited the need for a central authority with restricted powers, with the sole function of ensuring the coexistance of the societies.
It occured to me that he managed to reinvent the basic prinicpals of the founding fathers without even realizing it. In theory, the US is formed in the same way as his perfect society. He even used the cases of a redneck society where hunting and smoking and guns would be allowed, and his ideal place, with no smoking, no violence, etc.
If the feds weren't getting power trippy, and the USA was still the united STATES of america, then he wouldn't even have to move to realize his dream.
So, I agree with you. Plus, the structure that you and he discribe fits in well with my belief that the free market/democracy don't scale well to large populations. By having smaller "governing bodies" composed of the people local to, and caring about, the issues, part of that scaling is solved.
Slippery slope much?
Sadly enough, I agree with you that eventually consumer money would have put seatbelts in all cars. However, I do believe that in this case, government regulation did it faster.
Ideally, the government is just the public grouping up and combining resources. So maybe the people of the time wanted seatbelts, but the auto manufacturers weren't coming around, I don't know. The people take their collective will, and use it to pass regulation. In this case, it makes sense to me.
You can apply the free market argument here if you like, but I find that the free market breaks down as the market grows. Sure, in a small village, it works... if someone starts scamming everyone, then everyone else stops dealing with him. A success of the free market. Once the market is so big that no one knows anyone else, it encourages people like that scammer. Plus, someone mentioned it in another comment; once the consumers aren't aware of all the issues, then they can't excercise their free-market power, and the system breaks down.
This is the first clear response I've seen to this typical accusation of hypocrosy, and I'd like to commend you for your response. I've certainly made some mental notes from it to refute anyone who tries to accuse me of the same thing.
Thanks.
You're missing an easier way of doing it. Suppose that the audio is only decoded when it's being fed right to the speakers. So, open the speaker, and snip the wires that drive it. Hook them up to your "xSpeakerz" and it records the audio for you. Open your monitor (ok, this one is less likely, and more deadly, but still) and hook up your "xVidz" to the wires that drive the electron gun and the magnets, and that records the motions. Feed those motions in to a CRT simulator, and you get the video back out.
So now you don't have to break the actual encryption, you just have to know how to interpret the analog signals, which is a well documented science.
Do you not read slashdot? Have you missed all of the microsoft crap here every day? I seem to recall that microsoft has been found to me a monopoly. I seem to recall microsoft being spoon fed by IBM, not the government.
Your statement is false by counterexample.
You're right. I mean, when the government FORCED auto manufacturers to put seatbelts in cars, very much against the wills of the manufacturers, people's lives were SAVED! Damn that regulation.
If only we let the auto manufacturers not do anything, imagine how much better the world would be without seatbelts!
You're missing use #3, amateur developers. I believe that at the moment they're probably the largest market for such a device. Especially because it would be extremly cost-ineffecient to use it for either of your resons, whereas a hobbiest developer would get way more satisfaction for his money.
Damn straight. I run Win2k with a Radeon and a SB, and although CS never crashes, I'm sure that's because it's running too slowly to even get to that point. I mean, I upgraded my Voodoo2(!!) to play CS, and as soon as I threw Win2k on, I might as well go back to the system I had before the voodoo.
I really have to agree with you on this one. I've bound my power button to hibernate, so I can just punch that, and my system goes down without messing anything up.
most of your apps will even reestablish their network connections without any fuss
The only app that has a problem with it in my experience is ICQ. The app itself runs ok, but it doesn't realize that it lost its connection, and so it looks like you're online, but you're really not. It's actually caused me to miss important messages and such. Oh well, it's easily fixed by disconnecting and reconnecting.
Isn't there a RunAs service that allows you to run apps (including a shell) as another user (including admin)?
I know my 2k box is running it.
Well, to answer my question, win2k definately has this service, I just seem to have broken it and can't run anything with it. I know I've used it successfully before though.
Very true. On the other hand, neither the current incarnation of the tick, nor the Simpsons show started from nowhere. Both did exist in some form or other before becoming shows.
Still, you're right in that success in a cartoon format !==> success in a live-action format.
You just triggered a thought for me. Technically, the Tick had lots of exposure before this live-action one was aired. It was a cartoon years ago. [I know everyone knows it was a cartoon, but nobody seems to be counting that as previous exposure]
Hah, Carnivore anyone?
I really should be moderating this whole thread as off-topic instead of posting, but oh well, I actually have a relevant FACT to add to the thread.
If you look at any data that the Canadian Atmospheric Environment Service, or the US equivalent have to provide, you'll note both that:
a) Canada _does_ have much lower pollution levels
b) A significant portion of the air pollution in Canada is thanks to winds blowing nice dirty US air up to Canada.
I really wish I had links to provide, but this information comes from discussions with scientists from AES.
This is by no means to come off as a flame or US-bashing, quite frankly I think that both the US and Canada are great, but different countries, and comparisons are like apples and oranges. Just felt like contributing some actual fact to your debate.
In essence, it appears that you and I agree. I think it was smart to up Arwen's role (I just personally wish it wasn't Liv Tylor; she just doesn't seem Elvish to me) to provide a more romantic element, I'm always a sucker for romance.
I never state that I think one of them got too much time, so I hope you're just targeting people who have been stating that.
Adding stuff is also necessary. I don't comlain that in Moria it was a skeleton instead of a rock being knocked down the well. The eye does come up in the books, but Jackson did a good job of making us FEEL the eye.
Basically, my main complaint, if not my only complaint, is that there was too much epic and too few moments. I'd like watching the characters trade insults. I'd like watching Gimli and Legolas bond. Another reply mentioned that there is more of Lorien in the cut scenes, so maybe the full version will end my complaints.
So in the end it looks like we're in agreement. Here's to extra footage.
Sure, why not? Besides, in my mind, it wouldn't take an extra 7 hours to add what they missed. I think PJ did an excellent job, however my main complaint was that Jackson focused to much on the 'epic' bits of the story, and so missed out on lots that made the adventure memorable for all the readers.
The problem is, the books are enjoyable because they tell a story, and they tell it well. I don't claim that Tolkien is the best author ever, but his attention to detail made the story more vivid (unlike Jordan's attention to EVERY FUCKING THING EVER which after chapters of talking made me want to burn his books... but I digress). Sure, the epic moments are, well, epic. But the smaller moments make the books feel more like a real story.
The whole Arwen/Glorfindal doesn't really bother me, the movie has to try to appeal to others than us nerds who've actually managed to finish the Silmarillion. However, I missed Legolas and Gimli's little tiffs and growing friendship. It was hinted at during the Counsil of Elrond, but not really explored. During the books, that whole relationship makes for an interesting and sometimes humorus departure from the main storyline.
I personally was pained by the way Lorien was glossed over. In the books, we get a sense of restfulness and relaxation. In the movie, they show up, Galadriel does her crazy weird freaky thing, then they leave. No rest, no relaxation. How about Gimli falling in love with Galadriel? When does he have a chance? He's only in the Woods for like 5 minutes. And that whole blindfolding thing when they enter the woods. That was key character development. arr.
Well, just a couple of things that've been bothering me. All-in-all, it seems to me that that 30-40 minutes of promised extra footage might just do the trick.
Yeah, it's really entertaining how many posts you see along the lines of "I lost my half-life key". My ass you lost it. That's the not-so-1337 way of saying "d00d, /\/\y cRaCKz s173 1z d0\/\/n Y0 - n33D hA1f1If3 k3y!"
Let's look at some statistics.
Canada
GDP: (US$) 603.1 billion (1997)
GNP (US$): 583.9 billion (1997)
USA
GDP: (US$) 7,819.3 billion (1997)
GNP (US$): 7,690.1 billion (1997)
It would appear that the US has approx 11x the economic output.
To me, it doesn't seem so suprising that the US pay ~11x more than Canada, based on that alone.
In any case, I agree that expecting the US to pay for all of the extra is unwise, but on the other hand, to complain that the US pay more? Why does Texas have more represntatives than Rhode Island?
Are you sure that's the case, or are you thinking American law? I remember the US gov't had to add some clauses that distributing copyrighted material without profit was illegal. Perhaps in Germany this hasn't been made illegal. We'd probably need a German lawyer to clear this one up.
However, are blueprints and plans considered "speech" under the US Constitution?
I was going to try to prove that they're not, but I can't even think of an example of them not being. Hrmm..
Sure a fan can fail The chip is toast within one second of the heatsink removal
He was commenting on fan failure, not heatsink loss.