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The Tick to be Cancelled

mr.buddylee writes "This is a short write up, but evidently The Tick is going to be cancelled. " There really isn't much there to read except the notice. I'll keep watching until the last episode airs on Jan 24. I enjoyed it even if it was put in a terrifying time slot guaranteeing that nobody saw it. I think if it had a full season to find a footing it would have been a real winner. Ah well, good luck to Ben and his future projects.

302 comments

  1. Good riddance by Kutsal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I didn't like it at all anyways :P

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    1. Re:Good riddance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I think this Tick shit is just one more series that should never have been.

      However, what the hell do we do about prime time tv? This is crap!

      We need new TV!

    2. Re:Good riddance by Navarre · · Score: 2

      Neither did I. I love the cartoon, but this show had none of the silly magic that made the cartoon great. It was just...dumb. Sad but true.

    3. Re:Good riddance by aka-ed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      IMO, it had a different "silly magic." I loved Warburton's Tick, though it was as different from the animated version as Tom Welling's "Superboy" is different from Kirk Allyn's "Superman." His deadpan simplicity remins me of Dave Einstein ("Super Dave") before he got old and lost a bit of his skills.

      I lost all hope for the series' continuance just a few minutes ago when I checked the TV sched and found an all-night marathon of the crappiest cartoon on earth, "The Family Man."

      This does not make the world a better place. YMMV.

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    4. Re:Good riddance by nyquil · · Score: 1

      isnt that "Super" Dave Osbourne?

    5. Re:Good riddance by RoninM · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's Bob Einstein, actually.

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    6. Re:Good riddance by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      Y'know, I don't deserve a +3 for such a simple statement, and I expect someone will downmod the above statement soon. But I understand why it's so generously modded right now. Ben E. had the good graces to share his thoughts on the series with us here in /., and it was clear that this show was "his baby." If he's reading this, it can't be pleasant to see all these "fans of the cartoon" piling on to spit, piss and defecate on the grave of this infant. Especially considering that it was much closer in spirit to his original comic book creation. I hope he can stand reading long enough to read the intelligent posts by some of the show's fans, which become more numerous after you get past all the 'early posters.'

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    7. Re:Good riddance by drsoran · · Score: 1

      We've got West Wing, Will and Grace, Friends, Third Watch and ER. What more could you want in Prime Time?

    8. Re:Good riddance by chemical55 · · Score: 1

      Seriously, if I don't like the show, does that mean I shouldn't comment? I just feel that the program was not funny. I wanted to like it, wanted it to succeed, but just couldn't get into rational criticism of everything? Practically everything was somebody's baby at one time, does that mean we should walk around on eggshells?

    9. Re:Good riddance by silverbax · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I tried to watch the show, Patrick is a funny guy and so is the Tick character ( in concept)...but the show was just mind-numbingly awful. I barely made it through two episodes.

    10. Re:Good riddance by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      You have every right to post. Hopefully, something more insightful than "Where's the villains? This isn't like the cartoon."

      I may feel badly about your post, and I may post about that feeling -- it doesn't mean I don't want you to post.

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    11. Re:Good riddance by SnapShot · · Score: 1

      I also loved the cartoon. It was a reason to get up on a Saturday morning. Of the few episodes I saw, I thought the live action version was, for want of a better term, "mean spirited". It wasn't able to protray the true innocence of The Tick.

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    12. Re:Good riddance by buckeyeguy · · Score: 1
      We've got West Wing, Will and Grace, Friends, Third Watch and ER. What more could you want in Prime Time?

      So your wife/girlfriend hid the remote from you, eh? ;)

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    13. Re:Good riddance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i beg to differ. "family guy" is a great show.

      how can you not love the brilliant randomness of it? or the jabs at society, other tv shows, etc. imho, family guy is right up there with futurama and has probably already surpassed the fading simpsons in quality of humor.

    14. Re:Good riddance by drsoran · · Score: 1

      Heh, that's basically how it works. Time to buy a big screen TV for the basement. :-)

    15. Re:Good riddance by PeeOnYou2 · · Score: 1

      Family Guy is the best show ever!!! GOD DAMN STUPID 20 SECOND POST SHIT! ERASED MY GODDAMN POST 3 TIMES!

    16. Re:Good riddance by Jasirus · · Score: 1

      There is a reason why the tick is being canceled and "the family man" (Family Guy) isn't. Family guy I see to be trashed because it's intelligent stupidity. It has a witty quality among the madness that this abomination of the tick could never achieve. Although animation does rip down alot of barriers.

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    17. Re:Good riddance by buckeyeguy · · Score: 1
      haha... yeah, well like the Holiday Inn commercials say, 'Rock on, brother'

      mwhahaha

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  2. Awh by SkewlD00d · · Score: 1

    We'll have to go back to watching the cartoon series i guess.

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    1. Re:Awh by ndevice · · Score: 1

      yes, the cartoon series was much better - especailly the endings. Does anyone know if they're going to do any more of those?

  3. Eh, wasn't enough to keep you watching by Sc00ter · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I even have it on a season pass on my TiVo.. but I never watch it.. There's far better shows other there that I'd rather watch..

  4. A Sad Day for the Blue Bug of Justice by SpectreGadget · · Score: 0

    At least they made the episodes they did! Theses types of alterative Comics/Cartoons/Comedy is rarely fully appreciated by the mass audience that most marketing firms are after. I think we were fortunate that it got produced at all.. Ah, lost opportunities..

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  5. Well, I'll miss it. by plover · · Score: 2
    Yes, apparently I'm the other guy who watched it. I really enjoy what they did with the Batmanuel character.

    Oh, well, I watched it on ReplayTV and skipped the commercials anyway, so I'm sure I made them no money.

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    1. Re:Well, I'll miss it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, ethnic stereotyping is loads of fun.

      I'm very impressed that you have ReplayTV, though. You must be cutting edge.

  6. Spooon? Spooon! by Audent · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Tick can NEVER be cancelled because the Tick is INDESTRUCTABLE!

    all I can say is: grip too tight. Must... Break... Free...

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    1. Re:Spooon? Spooon! by Acy+James+Stapp · · Score: 1, Redundant

      That's Nigh Invulnerable, my friend.

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    2. Re:Spooon? Spooon! by whizzird · · Score: 1

      Indestructable? I think not! Nigh Invulnerable maybe...

    3. Re:Spooon? Spooon! by BladeRider · · Score: 1

      Nigh-indestructable.

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  7. Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by coljac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a big fan of the Tick - the comic book is one of the few I can stand and the cartoon series is pure magic. But the live action show just didn't get its groove going after the pilot. One thing that was missing was the EVIL - most of the episodes spent more time on antics involving dates, sexual misunderstandings, etc, which are fine in their place but not really the best medium for The Tick's histrionics. To really show what the Tick can do, he needs to be yelling "Spoooon!" whilst crushing evil. If he has to overcome some sexual innuendo to do that, so much the better. But as a Seinfeld-like sitcom, the Tick was so lacklustre I actually forgot to watch a couple of episodes.

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    1. Re:Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by ndevice · · Score: 1

      well, if they had a kitten eating scene, that would qualify (according to the cartoon series) as pure evil

    2. Re:Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by Golias · · Score: 5, Informative
      Villains, you say? I think your memory of the book might be a little colored. The fact is that the book seldom focused on fighting villians at all! Let's review, shall we? (spoiler warning)

      Issue 1: The Tick jumps around buildings, meets some ninjas (but does not bother to fight them much, as they clearly pose no threat to him whatsoever), sits in a diner and argues with a waiter about being a tick, passes out and wakes up in a subway tunnel, is rescued by "Clark", a badly disguised superhero.

      Issue 2: Tick spends the entire issue trying to become Clark's friend, mostly pissing him off.

      Issue 3: The Tick actually fights some Ninjas, but 90% of the book is dialogue between Tick and Oedipus, or funny dialogue among the ninjas.

      Issue 4: More ninjas, but mostly time spent getting to know Arthur and Paul The Samurai.

      Issue 5: Ninja story resolved.

      Issue 6: Tick fights The Red Scare, who is not, in fact, a real villain, but an actor hired to pretend he is a villain. A lot of the focus is really on building the relationship between Arthur and Tick. ("You're not... funny, are you?")

      Issue 7: Chairface.

      That's right, folks, it took 7 issues (of a comic that only ran for 12) before the first major villain was actually introduced.

      And then from there... Issue 8 Tick and Arthur argue with Arthur's sister, and decide to leave the City.

      Issue 9 is a road trip story.

      Issue 10 is more road trippin'

      Issue 11, Tick and Arthur coping with New York superhero culture.

      Issue 12, Tick moves into his new home.

      The truth is that The Tick live-action show, with all of the time spend hanging around exchanging funny dialogue, was much closer in pace and tone to the original than the cartoon was. The cartoon could not really spend time pondering stuff like the sexuality of superheroes (which the book did A LOT, although in more subtle ways that the recent show did). Most of the fights in the comic were over in one or two panels, as the Tick was so absurdly hard for anybody to seriously hurt.

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    3. Re:Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by msobkow · · Score: 2
      That may be true, but the animated version was a lot funnier than the live version. There are just too many abuses you can put animated characters through that require expensive special effects for live footage.

      While I've watched all the live episodes I've been able to, I've rarely found myself laughing out loud, which happened regularly with the animation.

      If I had to blame the death of "The Tick" on something, it would be weak writing.

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    4. Re:Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by coljac · · Score: 3, Informative

      OK, perhaps a comparison to the cartoon is more relevant.

      Episode 1: The Idea Men
      2: Chairface
      3: Dinosaur Neil
      4: Mr Mental
      5: The BreadMaster
      6: El Seed
      ... and so on.

      Practically every episode had a humorous villain, which gave every episode focus but made the general "life" problems more funny because of the disconnect between supervillainy and trying to fix the microwave, etc.

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    5. Re:Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you have that much talk and so little actions, what's the point? The hero doesn't have to overcome anything. It just appears to me the that the tick was just a wanna-be!!!!

    6. Re:Jeez Louise, Man - Where's the Villainy? by Golias · · Score: 2
      When you have that much talk and so little actions, what's the point? The hero doesn't have to overcome anything. It just appears to me the that the tick was just a wanna-be!!!!

      You just answered your own question. The Tick was, in fact, a wanna-be superhero.

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  8. Oh well...I won't miss it... by FatSean · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sorry, I was brought up on the Tick Cartoon, not the comic book. Missing all m favorite villians was one strike. The loss of Tick's yperKinetic movements was a 2nd strike. There really was no third strike, but I didn't see the show getting a hit anyway. It was a good try though...

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  9. Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how every show that gets cancelled has someone saying that it was in a bad timeslot.

    1. Re:Funny by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      That's because, when a network wants to kill a show for any of a number of reasons*, they place it in a bad slot, and it works. As you point out, it happens with considerable frequency. In this case, it's a Thursday at 9, and the competition is observably tough; CBS's Survivor and the remnants of the NBC Thursday night sitcom habit pounded into viewers by years of Seinfeld.

      * For example, series fostered by an outgoing regime, series that don't deliver a pre-conceived demographic, series that are produced out-of-house and the network has in-house capacity.

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  10. *yawn* by M3wThr33 · · Score: 1

    The show, albeit crazy, was so predictable after a certain amount of time and it became a pain to sit through it. Of course, who can sit through a first season's episode of the Simpsons now?

    1. Re:*yawn* by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually I rather like the first season of Simpsons...the show was just a show back then, and didn't carry around the baggage that it does now. That being said, I'm glad the Tick was cancelled. I watched an episode, and it was just the usual sitcom formula that hasn't been refreshed since 1972. Better to have it dead and gone, than possibly become popular and tarnish the Tick's image.

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    2. Re:*yawn* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have the 'Simspsons' first season on DVD and I LOVE it!
      Remember that Smithers was originally black?!
      Milhouse had clear hair before blue hair.
      And Homer wasn't as nearly stupid as he has become today.

    3. Re:*yawn* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you talking about, the first season is excellent.

    4. Re:*yawn* by displaytest · · Score: 1

      The first season was one of the best! Sure things were a little rougher, but the characters were much closer to reality than they are today - now they're just caricatures of themselves. I can't even stand to watch any of the episodes since "Who shot Mr. Burns?"

  11. Patrick Warburton by cliffy2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Will always be David Putty in my heart of hearts.
    (Before this gets modded down, Warburton portrayed the Tick. Not completely random.)

    1. Re:Patrick Warburton by theNeophile · · Score: 1

      This is really offtopic but: In my heart of hearts he will always be Johnny Johnson (Jimmy James' rival in NewsRadio)

    2. Re:Patrick Warburton by sunwukong · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Since the guy got modded down to a -1, but makes some sense, alot of good posts are getting modded down lately. Disclaimers because 1/2 the people dont understand the post.

      Heres his post.
      snip

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      ;-)

    3. Re:Patrick Warburton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean "Puddy"?

    4. Re:Patrick Warburton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Re:Patrick Warburton (Score:-1)
      by GigsVT on Thu January 10, 07:11 PM (#2821310) [slashdot.org] [Alter Relationship]
      (User #208848 [slashdot.org] Info | http://www.poetrycontestonline.com/) OK, I need to rant.

      The fucking moderation system is broken when we have to fucking post disclaimers by any goddamn joke that some fucking 12 year old moderator might not get, because he is too busy whacking off to read a book every now and then, or even fucking read the item that is linked to a story before pressing that moderation button.

      The reason we don't see as many really funny posts anymore is because people are afraid to be witty in a subtle way because some fucking kid doesn't get the joke and thinks it's "Offtopic" or "Flamebait".

      If you think M2 is a solution, think again. That is not fucking feedback, that is fucking random slaps on the wrist for moderating. How is the moderator to know which moderation he did that was unfair? It could have been any one of five different moderations.

      I don't get mod points anymore, I guess I qualify as a compulsive reloader since I read slashdot daily, and post more than once a day usually.

      This whole thing is bullshit. Prior restraint, through the fear of being moderated down IS censorship. Wouldn't it be censorship if the government just made your voice so quiet that no one much would hear you?

      I don't buy any of this bullshit. I'm sick of humor being moderated offtopic. I'm sick of fucking snowball effects because moderators never read at -1 nested. I've found that when I have had a post modded up to 3, it is much more likely to snowball to 5. When a post gets down to 0 or -1, it has very little chance of ever seeing the light of day again, even if it was unfairly moderatod.

      Anyway, fuck you moderators that don't think about what you are doing before hitting submit. If it looks like a joke, even a little, then give it the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you just don't get it, and it really is hilarious.

      I'm done now. Posted at +2 so more people will read. Go ahead, I've got 50 more karma to burn.

    5. Re:Patrick Warburton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go ahead and mod it down to -1 again. I'll just post it again. This guy has hit it right on the head. The moderation system blows

  12. Dang by JWhiton · · Score: 5, Funny

    I suspected this would happen. The thing is about The Tick is that your average Fox viewer isn't intelligent enough to get any of the jokes.

    Now, I'm not saying everyone who watches Fox is cranially deficient, but think about the kind of shows the network survives on. Ally McBeal. Melrose Place. Temptation freakin' Island! The network is built on running low-brow shows that copy from other successful shows. When The Tick delivers one of his trademark metaphors, most of the audience is wondering why they aren't seeing any car chases or strippers.

    Now I'll admit that Fox's early reason for surviving was the Simpsons, but that's an exception in a sea of low-quality knock-offs.

    I'll miss ya, Tick.

    1. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      Or maybe the show just blew goats.

      Get a grip fanboy, you're taste in entertainment is just a stupid as everyone else's.
      You are not a unique and special snowflake.

    2. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh puh-leeeeze. Enough with the "people are stupid and just don't get it" crap.

      The show was cancelled because it sucked and nobody was watching.

    3. Re:Dang by wurp · · Score: 2

      I watched the show, and it was very good. WIth The Tick as their starting material, it could have been better, but I laughed my ass off and I don't watch TV, as a rule.

    4. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think intelligence is the right word to descripe what watching the tick requires.

      It was not of any higher quality than any other show. Just because it something that fits closer to what you enjoy, does not mean that it requires any more intelligence to view.

    5. Re:Dang by alexmogil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What other shows, especially sitcoms, are *not* idiotic today? Hell, even NBC's wildly-successful show Emeril had (BAM!) a sex plot in one of it's episodes. Or, better yet - Onnna the Friends is gonna havea baybeee outta wedlock! Who could it beeee!?To say FOX has nothing but low-brow shows tells me you've ne'er watched Malcom, King of the Hill, or Futurama.There's good writing there. You just gotta look for it.

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    6. Re:Dang by breon.halling · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Fox's early reason for surviving was the Simpsons

      Actually, if I recall correctly, it was "Married with Children..." that was Fox's first major success.

      This, however, lends even more credence to your argument. ;)

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    7. Re:Dang by Spire · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Scrubs and Undeclared, the latter of which, unfortunately, is in danger of being canceled.

      Scrubs, on the other hand, has just been renewed for a second season. Dr. Cox r00lz!

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    8. Re:Dang by Anomaly+Coward · · Score: 1

      Excuse me? Fox has 90% of the best shows on network television. Just to name some: Simpsons, Futurama, XFiles, Malcom in the MIddle, King of the Hill, Ally McBeal, Boston Public, That 70's show, Undeclared, Family Guy, The Tick (albeit not anymore), 24, and probably some others that I'm forgetting. What does NBC have? Friends? What about ABC? Drew Carey? WB, UPN, CBS? Nadda...

      And to say that The Tick is more intelligent than the other shows on Fox just suggests a bit of a warped perspective.

    9. Re:Dang by flotsam+or+jetset · · Score: 1

      Com'on! Fox Family DID save Freaks and Geeks for a year! The Tick is an unfortunate loss. Hopefully Sci-Fi will pick it up. If not it's further proof that there just aren't enough channels...

    10. Re:Dang by Otter · · Score: 2
      The thing is about The Tick is that your average Fox viewer isn't intelligent enough to get any of the jokes.

      Or, maybe, the show only has three or four jokes and, while they're funny, they wear out after a few weeks. The Tick speaks in weird metaphors, his fellow superheros have the foibles and frustrations of ordinary mortals and -- OK, two jokes. Oh, and he used to yell "Spoooon!" but he doesn't do that any more for copyright reasons.

      It was good for a few laughs but did you guys really think this was going to stay on the air for more than a season or two?

    11. Re:Dang by stickb0y · · Score: 1

      "Spoon!" was from the comic, not from the cartoon, so there shouldn't be any copyright problems with that.

      Of course, that just begs the question: why isn't he saying "Spoon!" then?

      I would guess that it's because--as has already been noted--there has been a general lack of villainy so far. What's the use for a battle cry without any battles?

      (Then again, having a battle cry with no battles to fight wouldn't be so unusual in Tick's world...)

    12. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but you also must consider - The Tick is simply not funny. It appeals only to the greasiest, smelliest, most conceited losers around, and thankfully there weren't enough to keep the show.

      Sometimes I love ratings. Oh ratings, you have done a good deed this day.

    13. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simpsons
      good

      , Futurama,
      great

      XFiles,
      used to be good but sucks without mulder

      Malcom in the MIddle,
      good

      King of the Hill,
      awesome

      Ally McBeal,
      sucks

      Boston Public,
      pretty good but overdramatic

      That 70's show,
      really funny, they got that guy from cheech and chong

      Undeclared,
      crappy writing, good concept, bad show

      Family Guy,
      THE BEST FUCKING SHOW EVER

      The Tick
      good

    14. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, I have to say you have no taste in TV, if you think that Emeril on NBC was a "wildly-successful" show. It was boring and the ratings refected that, that is why it got canned. Not trying to flame, but there are tons of much better shows out there that you could spend your time on.

    15. Re:Dang by Golias · · Score: 2
      Ben Edlund himself pointed out that "Spooon!" was not introduced until several issues into the comic, nor did it appear into the cartoon during the first few episodes (season 2, IIRC).

      Why should anybody expect the gag to be pounded out during the first 6 episodes of the live show?

      All these fucking fanboys whining about how it's not the same as the dumbed-down cartoon make me want to puke. The original books WERE the tick. All else (Tick issues by other authors, the cartoon series, the live show, the toys, etc.) are merely Ben Edlund's well-deserved opportunity to pay off his college loans.

      Personally, I thought the cartoon was okay, if a little shallow... and the live series started out kind of weak in the pilot episode but found its legs quickly and was easilly better than 90% of the shit that gets passed on as comedy these days.

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    16. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Shut your "Will and Grace" watching face, you twit!

      Yours affectionately,
      R. M. Nixon (Mrs.)

    17. Re:Dang by Wolfger · · Score: 1

      "Now, I'm not saying everyone who watches Fox is cranially deficient, but think about the kind of shows the network survives on."

      You mean like Simpsons, Malcom, X-Files, Boston Public, 70's Show, and Dark Angel? I would mention Futurama here too, but Fox doesn't really survive on that show, that show survives on Fox, and is perpetually on the brink of being cancelled, for the same reasons as the Tick. Bad time slot, and the humor is completely lost on some people. But don't slam Fox's lineup. I haven't seen better shows on any other network!

    18. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yes, but you also must consider - The Tick is simply not funny. It appeals only to the greasiest, smelliest, most conceited losers around, and thankfully there weren't enough to keep the show.

      Imagine the person who wrote this. Do you picture someone non-greasy? Non-smelly? Not conceited? A "winner?"

      Wrong! He's an asshole, from a long line of 'em. At least that's what his mama said last night while she was working my knob. True story!

    19. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right... Like watching X-files isn't the first sign of cranial deficiency.
      based on true events

    20. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The thing is about The Tick is that your average Fox viewer isn't intelligent enough to get any of the jokes.

      It's a guy in blue tights with fake muscles. I think if you read anything more into this show than it was a complete idiotic waste of time you're a moron.

    21. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I enjoy watching the Man Show. There's something about girls on trampolines that keeps me coming back everytime. Whereas, the Tick.. that's just stupid. :-)

    22. Re:Dang by _J_ · · Score: 2, Funny

      But I loved the metaphors....

      "You're on a first name basis with lucidity, chum. I have to call him Mr. Lucidity, which is no good when you're in a pinch."

      J:)

    23. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mandingo, how I grok your mouth-music!

      If nothing else the show was endlessly quotable.

    24. Re:Dang by Brainboy · · Score: 1

      Yes! I am not the only one on Slashdot who LOVED the metaphors. One my fav, quotes from that show

      "We're mavericks Arthur. When life says 'Jump' we say 'Pass the Salt'"

      Same episode coincidentally. But anyways I really like the live-action Tick. Bad time slot however. I'm sorry to see it go.

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    25. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah im with you, these pretentious tick fans are fucking losers who've been out of highschool too long and need to be put back in their place

      lets hear u shout "spoon" when i fucking stuff u in a locker

      fuck i hate nerds

    26. Re:Dang by Zurion · · Score: 2

      Wow! I wouldn't have said this at all. Granted there are some really, REALLY terrible shows on fox (Temptation Island). However, The Family Guy, Futurama, and The Simpson's all are shows that require some sort of intelligence (and attention span) if you want to catch all of the jokes. In any of these shows, if you laugh for more than 5 seconds you're probably going to miss an obscure joke. For instance, take the "All you're base are belong to us," in Futurama in this past week's episode.

    27. Re:Dang by LafinJack · · Score: 1

      Boston Public, too. Bam!

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    28. Re:Dang by Shadarr · · Score: 1
      >Family Guy,
      >THE BEST FUCKING SHOW EVER

      Thank you, I was starting to think there was something wrong with the Slashdot crowd, describing it as "good". I can only remeber watching one episode where I didn't laugh so hard it hurt.

  13. The Simpsons? by sterno · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Any idea what the history of the Simpsons ratings were? I'm just wondering if back in the day they were as quick to axe as they are now.

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    1. Re:The Simpsons? by Uberminky · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't know the history of the Simpsons ratings. I did enjoy the couple of episodes of The Tick I saw. But one thing I do know: The Tick is no Simpsons. It just doesn't have the depth to be comparable, IMO.

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    2. Re:The Simpsons? by sterno · · Score: 1

      Agreed, but in the history of television, how many shows really have the success that the simpsons did. I think the Tick was a fun show and I think it was worth a few more seasons. Then again, I'm not a TV exec :)

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    3. Re:The Simpsons? by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1

      how many shows really have the success that the simpsons did

      Try Simpsons DOOOOOO

      they are still running new seasons man.......the last simpsons episode is going to be a real lost to an entire generation of people....I grew up with them....I still remember the first season and how it was such a scandal for Bart to say "Eat My Shorts man" ahhh....how inocent we were in the late 80s :-)

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    4. Re:The Simpsons? by Cowculator · · Score: 1

      The Simpsons didn't have its own ratings in the very beginning. IIRC, it debuted as part of the Tracy Ullman Show, so Fox probably knew that it would be safe to give it half an hour of prime time based on previous experience. The Tick didn't have that advantage...

    5. Re:The Simpsons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Simpsons was a runaway hit from the very beginning, it only took a handful of episodes for it to catch on. Plus, Fox was only in its second or third season as a network at the time, even a moderate hit would have been a pretty big deal to them at the time, and The Simpsons was much more than that. It's quite possibly the only reason Fox still exists as a network today.

      The commentary on The Simpsons season 1 DVDs explains some of that history, especially how ripoffs of simpsons merchandise started appearing even before the end of the first season.

      And I gotta say, I saw The Tick's pilot a long time before the series actually debuted, and loved it. But aside from the pilot, the show itself has been a big letdown. Though I held out hope it would get better, I'm not at all surprised it's being cancelled. It just wasn't that funny. Maybe someone'll give Mr. Edlund another cartoon instead. Whether it was the Tick or something else, I'd watch it.

    6. Re:The Simpsons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The initial "Simpsons" episodes were relatively conventional, though good, entertainment. The point of the original post is that the live "Tick" could well develop into something like the latter-day "Simpsons" - the one most people think of when they think of "The Simpsons" - if given the chance. Although I agree more time would help I believe giving more creative control back to Edlund would help. Of course he'd eventually get bored with it, like he did with the animated series.

    7. Re:The Simpsons? by enol · · Score: 1

      I remember when the Simpsons first came out and there was a huge controversy on how it was really bad for kids and attacks family values. That controversy alone would've brought viewers to watch it, even if it's just to see what the fuss was about. Not too different from South Park's start.

      Except Simpsons is STILL running...which tells a lot about its writers. They're terrific.

    8. Re:The Simpsons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The simpsons are going downhill, fast. The simpsons have always been able to made fun of things, but in the past they were funny and relevent. Now they are full of random, baseless, strawman insults. Take the recent 'some washed up celebrity trying to sell you buddism episode'.

    9. Re:The Simpsons? by G-Man · · Score: 2

      As I recall, The Simpsons had a "running start" since it began as short segments on the Tracy Ullman Show. I forget exactly when it was spun off, but it's interesting that it so outlived the show where it started. Are the segments from the Tracy Ullman Show on the Season 1 DVD? That would be mighty cool.

    10. Re:The Simpsons? by Peyna · · Score: 1
      I haven't gotten through all 3 dvds yet, but I didn't see any mention of the Tracy Ullman shorts anywhere. I do remember watching them though. The commentaries are very interesting and informative though.

      You also notice some very interesting things that changed real quick. Like Smither's skin color changing after 1 episode =]

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    11. Re:The Simpsons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Tick didn't have that advantage.

      The Tick was a cartoon which lasted three seasons, it did have that advantage.

    12. Re:The Simpsons? by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      The Simpsons was opposite ratings powerhouse Bill Cosby for its first 4 seasons, and came in second consistently, occasionally squeaking to first. For Fox, this was a huge success.

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    13. Re:The Simpsons? by Otter · · Score: 1
      I forget exactly when it was spun off, but it's interesting that it so outlived the show where it started.

      Well, that shows you how much of a "running start" The Simpsons had. My recollection is that Tracey Ullman (I think that's the spelling) never caught on, and The Simpsons was simply a word-of-mouth hit from almost the first episode. (Bart cheats his way into the gifted class, wasn't it?) If anything, the biggest boost it got was from Married With Children, which was on later on Sunday.

      Between them was "Good Grief", where Howie Mandel played a funeral home owner. ;-)

    14. Re:The Simpsons? by Colin+Bayer · · Score: 1

      (Bart cheats his way into the gifted class, wasn't it?)

      IIRC, the first episode was the Simpsons Christmas Special (the one where Homer is the mall Santa and they get Santa's Little Helper). I'd check SNPP, but I'm lazy that way.

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    15. Re:The Simpsons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eat my Tracy Ullman shorts, man!

    16. Re:The Simpsons? by fat_mike · · Score: 1

      Could someone please tell me how to access the commentary on my Simpson's dvd. They only one I can find is under special features on the last disc. The packaging says all the episodes have it, but I'm an idiot and can't figure it out.

      matt@mail.ltlb.com

    17. Re:The Simpsons? by displaytest · · Score: 1

      Actually I think Tracey Ullman ran for 3-4 seasons on Fox late on Sunday (and I have some memory of it being an occasional series on HBO before that) so it must have had a little bit of staying power.

      And my memory is of the Simpsons is that they ran on Thursday at 8, against they still-strong Cosby show for their first few seasons. The fact that they did OK there, along with the success of MwC kept the Fox network alive.

    18. Re:The Simpsons? by gpinzone · · Score: 1

      Conventional?! Hell no. They were revolutionary. No one thought of putting a cartoon in a prime time slot since the Flintstones with "adult" themes and jokes. Yeah sure, those episodes seem tame now, but back then it was groundbreaking stuff. I can still remember the controversy over the Bart Simpson "Underachiever and proud of it" t-shirts.

    19. Re:The Simpsons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummm.... It's either the 3rd or 4th audio track on the dvd, you do know how to switch audio tracks don't you?

    20. Re:The Simpsons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tracey Ullman ran for many many many years on HBO, and you may even be able to see episodes still.

    21. Re:The Simpsons? by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 1

      You also notice some very interesting things that changed real quick. Like Smither's skin color changing after 1 episode =]

      Actually, that was a colouring mistake. If you read the episode capsule for Homer's Odyssey at snpp.com, you'll find:

      By now, most people have noticed that Smithers
      is black in this episode. According to David
      Silverman, Gyorgi Peluci, the person who did
      the color styling randomly decided the
      ethnicity of various characters, which usually
      wasn't much of a a problem, but it sort of
      ruined the ``white sycophant'' persona for
      Smithers. Budget constraints precluded
      recoloring, so they left it the way it was. If
      it really bothers you, just imagine that he has
      a ``Caribbean suntan.''

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  14. Maybe not so bad news by MaufTarkie · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Maybe Ben can finally get his Tick movie bankrolled. I believe he's got a script ready, and now he has the actors (if they're willing to be on the big screen).

    I think it could work. It won't be a huge success, but it'll definitely have a cult following.

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    1. Re:Maybe not so bad news by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 1

      That's not a bad idea if he can get the cash. I love the show, especially Batmanuel, and am a long-time fan of the original comic series ("I'm a bush, move along...") and the Saturday cartoons I leech off of >. For the actors it's a no brainer - reprise their role on the big screen? You bet.

      I'm not sure what studio would throw money at it, but hell - maybe Comedy Central will buy the rights or something. Spot near South Park, maybe?

  15. No, he's... by coljac · · Score: 0, Redundant

    NIGH INVULNERABLE!

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  16. Comedy Central? by Crackerman111 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I wonder if Comedy Central would have any interest in picking the series up. I think the demographics of Comedy Central would be a perfect fit for the show. Oh well, that's just wishful thinking. It was fun to watch while it lasted.

    1. Re:Comedy Central? by MagikSlinger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's certainly in their price range. How much did they spend on production values? $1.98?

      Without the epic grandeur that was the Tick comic book and animated series, the live-action series became smaller than life, becoming more of an ironic statement than a big, steaming cup o' hommage to the glorious yesteryear of comic book superheroes!

      Ahem, but I degress. Where were the villains? The villains with villany so insane they could be called mad! Where was Charles, the evil brain-child? Where was Chairface Chippendale? Without these larger than life adventures for the Tick to rail against with his child-like enthusiasm for Justice, I just don't see the point. I mean, where's that call to the Heroe's Quest, chum? Where's the kind of adventure that makes you want to cry, "SPOOOOON!!!"

      Ahem. Sorry, I don't know what came over me. I haven't been the same since I found moth suite at a garage sale the other day.

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    2. Re:Comedy Central? by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1, Interesting

      what they need to do is take it to HBO......then you can get realy rounchy and real....I have always thought that all of TV should be like HBO...then you can have the good real life stuff like "OZ" and "the Sapranos" and "sex in the city" and "six feet under" and "the mind of the married man" and "curb your enthusiasm" and "dream on", and "the larry sanders show"......and....."the Rounchy Tick"!!!

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    3. Re:Comedy Central? by TotallyUseless · · Score: 1

      and mr show with bob and david, which no longer airs nightly on hbo comedy. that was one of the funniest shows I had ever seen. I miss watching them at 10 each night. hbo programming bastards!

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    4. Re:Comedy Central? by The_Messenger · · Score: 0

      Actually, I think they should move it to Spice. Imagine: "The Dick," featuring American Laid, Defuckermaus, and... Arthur.

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    5. Re:Comedy Central? by WickywiK · · Score: 1

      As a fan of the animated show, I was really disappointed in a lame made-for-tv-series they came out with. It might not have had a great time to view, but hey, it wasn't that good to begin with (too bad).

    6. Re:Comedy Central? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How old are you man? Grow up and get laid sometime.

  17. Advertising by alexmogil · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How is it possible that we saw SO much advertising for this show during the World Series (A secret message.... from my TEETH!), but I never saw commercial one for the show while it was on the air?Honestly if they would have advertised it a *little* more, perhaps I could tell you what time the show was on. Heck, I don't even know what day it was on. Just like Family Guy.Yet, I am pretty sure we're all sick of 'A Very Special Boston Public' and 'That Goddamned 80's Show' commercials.

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    1. Re:Advertising by stickb0y · · Score: 1
      Heck, I don't even know what day it was on. Just like Family Guy.

      It was on right after Family Guy. (Thursday nights, 8 PM.)

      Is it that hard to go to TV Guide's listings and do a search?

    2. Re:Advertising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the problem with the 80s show is it tries to copy 70s but the 70s show is only good because it has a good cast and good writers

    3. Re:Advertising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dont worry, i fully expect 'that annoying 80s show' to quickly follow the tick to the exit. i really have no clue when the tick came on, i evidently dont even watch tv during the timeslot they put it in.

    4. Re:Advertising by Luyseyal · · Score: 2

      Amen.
      -l

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    5. Re:Advertising by Steveftoth · · Score: 2

      Did anyone else think that 2 hours of new family guy all at once was weird last night? I lost it during that 4th episode. I just lost intrest. Does this mean they are dumping the Family guy?

    6. Re:Advertising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None of them were new episodes...

    7. Re:Advertising by ChodaBoy · · Score: 1

      Uh, actually, not one of those Family Guy episodes were new. It was two hours of reruns.

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    8. Re:Advertising by renderhead · · Score: 1

      That's not the point, my friend. The problem with a lack of advertising wasn't so much that people who wanted to see the show couldn't find out when it was on. The problem was that people stopped thinking about the show when they stopped advertising it. That's poison to a television series, since the show wasn't generating enough buzz on its own. To be successful, a prime-time series must be thought about more than its competition, and Fox wasn't even trying once the series actually premiered.

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    9. Re:Advertising by analog_line · · Score: 1

      See also, the Clerks animated series debacle, which was promoted to hell and back to during the Super Bowl, but was pulled after three episodes aired.

      TV's messed up that way.

  18. Frontline by MTNhike · · Score: 1, Funny

    The Tick is gone?!?!?

    I bet its because PBS put Frontline against it!

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    Take a hike! Go to http://www.mtnhike.com
    1. Re:Frontline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      leave frontline out of your jokes. you are getting personal there.

  19. Good by SirDrinksAlot · · Score: 0

    About damn time. the cartoon is the one true tick.
    the characters in the real version were too.. um.. Too much. The tick was too obnoxious and imature. The animated version rocked your socks. Bring that one back.

    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to see you do better. I'm sure you're a big-time tv producer, dipshit idiot.

    2. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I bet you also like "The Super Friends." By the way, there is no "real" Tick. That guy was an actor. In a suit. Why do I get the impression you were picking your nose while posting?

  20. Live Action Tick by skroz · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...was cool, though the time slot was awful. What I REALLY want to see is a live action Johnny Bravo.

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    1. Re:Live Action Tick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. Thursday night in the middle of prime time is a fantastic time slot for a new, untested show. That doesn't mean it didn't have stiff competition from other networks, but it could have been burried on a Saturday when no one is home.

      I think the show was just taking a while to hit its pace, getting used to live action. Certainly Batmanuel was hysterical from the start - he's got the bravado, the look, etc. and the lack of brains to make him a clueless super-Romeo.

    2. Re:Live Action Tick by Fesh · · Score: 2

      I dunno... I saw one episode, and kept thinking, "But... He doesn't have the googly white eyes! It just doesn't look right!"

      As for live-action Johnny Bravo... Why do I get the feeling that parts of it would look like a Tool video?

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    3. Re:Live Action Tick by sdo1 · · Score: 1
      Live Action Tick was cool, though the time slot was awful

      You know, it's funny what TiVo does to viewing habits. Since getting one, I haven't given the slightest thought to what time slot a program is in. And to be honest, though I've watched every episode of The Tick since it's been on, I don't have the slightest idea when it's on... or even what day.

      Anyway, I'm sad to see it go... I thought it was one of the funniest shows on television.

      -S

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    4. Re:Live Action Tick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh great. A live action version of a cartoon that's one joke long. You must be a TV executive.

    5. Re:Live Action Tick by Strange_Attractor · · Score: 1

      >>just taking a while to hit its pace I'm sure that was another nail in its coffin. I found the Tick via the cartoon series, and just fscking love it. I had a hard time adjusting to the live-action version, but I found it funnier and funnier with time (especially Nestor Carbonell's Batmanuel). So, factor in the time slot, the Seinfeld curse, the cheapo budget, the Fox overkill-then-silence "promotion" policy, and twenty other factors listed elsewhere in this discussion - well, I'm disappointed but not surprised.

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  21. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Are you SERIOUS? A fsking TV show being axed makes "News For Nerds Stuff that Matters"?

    Meanwhile, whilst the linux communities hard is bleading because of the TV show, Microsoft has just released news that their ECMA c# adn the CLI has been rattified as an international standard. See here for more info.

    No wonder Linux still sucks

  22. The cartoon rules by baptiste · · Score: 2

    I never thought the current show was all that great. The cartoon had a twisted bent to it that was enjoyable from time to time. Course, I never watch cartoons - its for the kids, yeah - that's it. he kids.

    1. Re:The cartoon rules by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 2, Interesting

      do they have the tick cartoon on DVD? I would love to have the entire what....3 or 4 seasons...I think it was on that long.

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    2. Re:The cartoon rules by greenfly · · Score: 2

      There were three seasons, and you can find all the episodes on your favorite fileshare app in divx form.

  23. A Sad Day for the Turd Nibblers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative


    LInux sucks d00d.

    WinXP forever!!

  24. Oh well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It is too bad for the people involved, but I vastly prefer the cartoon. I only watched the pilot of the live action series. I think that cartoons are very difficult to bring to life, and the Tick is such an over-the-top character that it shouldn't even have been attempted. Loved Batmanuel though.

  25. Sigh... by Enry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Having gotten started with the cartoon, then buying a bunch of comics on EBay, the TV show seems to be more of the comic-book-style Tick, which was pretty good. Too bad they didn't bring in Samuri Paul(? it's been a while..) or the ninjas. That would have been a great episode.

    "Jeez. I thought Ninjas just got sucked up into jet engines.."

    Given Fox's recent fare of programming, I didn't expect it to last. The only thing left is the Simpsons, since I can only get the last 15 minutes of Futurama because football runs over. C'mon guys, if the game goes too long EVERY WEEK, don't you think you can schedule around it?

    1. Re:Sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here here. Fox has been on my shit list all year for the crappy sports they run instead of quality programming like Futurama. Rant rant rant...

    2. Re:Sigh... by dieman · · Score: 1

      Thats why you tell tivo to either record the show after, or tell it to record 15 or 30 minutes later before stopping.

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    3. Re:Sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that you assume that FOX simply delays Futurama and begins it after the game ends.

      In truth, they either "join already scheduled programming" and show the last 10 minutes of Futurama, or they scrap the whole slot and let Howie Long and the rest of the crew talk about the game to fill up the gap till King Of The Hill.

    4. Re:Sigh... by shanek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The thing that pisses me off about it was that last week it didn't run over; the game stopped right at 7:00, but those idiots kept talking for 20 minutes. Guys, when you run over your time, shut the frell up!!!!

    5. Re:Sigh... by Enry · · Score: 2

      That wouldn't work, as Fox starts the show "already in progress", meaning that the first 15 minutes is never shown. *grumble*

  26. Typical Network Antics by Afrosheen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Come on, you all saw it coming. The Tick was never gonna succeed with all the crap the Fox nimrods edited into it. I remember when the creator of the Tick was interviewed about the live action show...he said alot of the stupid dialogue wasn't his idea and he seemed kinda pissed that some knucklehead edited it to be that way.

    Networks are great at shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to innovation. Remember the Clerks animated cartoon? It only lived long enough to spawn 6 episodes but was hilarious and had the trademark Clerks humor out the wazzoo. The episodes built the plot successively, so if you didn't see episode one before 2 you could be slightly lost.

    Guess what. NBC (or was it CBS) aired the 4th episode as the pilot! People were lost and wondering what the hell was going on when they saw it. After 4 was 5 and 6 but that was it. It got canned. I suggest everyone go grab it on DVD. A true jewel.

    1. Re:Typical Network Antics by NeuroManson · · Score: 2

      "Guess what. NBC (or was it CBS) aired the 4th episode as the pilot! People were lost and wondering what the hell was going on when they saw it."

      Worse, it was ABC (Disney)...

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    2. Re:Typical Network Antics by Life+Blood · · Score: 2

      Actually Clerks was cancelled before it ever aired. Thats why there were only 6 eps, they were contractually obligated to make at least 6 so they made the minimum and then aired it during the summer in obscurity. Crusade faced a similar fate on TNT. JMS refused to make it the bikini sci-fi adventure and so it got cancelled before a single episode aired. Its network politics.

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    3. Re:Typical Network Antics by limber · · Score: 1

      "Guess what. NBC aired the 4th episode as the pilot! People were lost and wondering what the hell was going on..."

      A very similar thing happened with Gilligan's Island. The first episode ("Two on a Raft") was actually a pastiche of several shows, and included only a chunk of the actual pilot show that was shot. Sherwood Schwartz maintained that the first episode was meant to be the 2nd, and had enormous fights with CBS over this prior to the initial airing. And in fact, you don't see the bulk of the pilot show until episode 12 (the Christmas episode "Birds Gotta Fly, Fish Gotta Talk"). (it's the part where they are remembering how grateful they weren't all killed in the wreck). The result is that episode 1 is pretty awful and strained, even for Gilligan's Island.

      Luckily (or unluckily, depending on your critical opinion of the show), Gilligan's Island had a very catchy expository theme song/explanatory opening credit sequence. Ah, whatever happened to sing-along theme songs... The other major point was that it never dropped out of the Top 40 shows.

    4. Re:Typical Network Antics by RoninM · · Score: 2
      Ah, whatever happened to sing-along theme songs...

      What? You don't watch Enterprise?

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    5. Re:Typical Network Antics by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      Many episodes of Gilligan were shot by Jack Arnold, director of "Creature From The Black Lagoon," "This Island Earth," and "Incredible Shrinking Man."

      Ah, whatever happened to sing-along theme songs...

      Many anime series have very singable themes, if you can sing in Japanese. I occasionally extemporize in English to them.

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    6. Re:Typical Network Antics by marcsherman · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? Enterprise has no theme song. There's no music what-so-ever at the start of that show. It just starts straight into the show. Really, it does.

    7. Re:Typical Network Antics by Strange_Attractor · · Score: 1

      Yes, Enterprise uses a "cold opening" - just like every one of the Star Trek series. Unless you think the episodes are 90 seconds long, though, you'll notice there's a theme song after that (before the commercials and the main body of the show). Enterprise's theme song includes vocals. Welcome to the actual conversation.

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    8. Re:Typical Network Antics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      do you know what sarcasm is?

    9. Re:Typical Network Antics by marcsherman · · Score: 1

      You appear to have missed my point. Enterprise has _no_ theme music. You can't make me admit that Enterprise has theme music, no matter how hard you try.

      Please have some respect for my state of denial.

  27. Potential wasted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It was a good idea. I even thought the casting was appropriate. The first episode was nothing short of unbelievably hilarious. However, every episode to follow was not so funny. They had the potential to introduce new and hilarious "Superheros" every episode or so, instead of focusing on Bat Maneul and Captain Liberty. I would have loved to see the Swiss Army!

  28. The Seinfeld Curse! by lostchicken · · Score: 5, Funny

    It strikes again!

    For those who don't know, Patrick Warburton (The Tick) had a part on Seinfeld as David Puddy.

    Like all the ex-Seinfeld cast members before him, Warburton's show seemed doomed from the start. This makes the 3rd flop.

    Hmm. I wonder if Julia Louis-Dreyfus' show will be cancelled before it starts. Good luck.

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    1. Re:The Seinfeld Curse! by hilker · · Score: 1
      Like all the ex-Seinfeld cast members before him, Warburton's show seemed doomed from the start. This makes the 3rd flop.
      How do you account for Jerry Stiller's success on The King of Queens, then?
    2. Re:The Seinfeld Curse! by lunatik17 · · Score: 1

      Jerry Stiller has been a success since long before Seinfeld.

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    3. Re:The Seinfeld Curse! by Ghettoceleb · · Score: 1

      I think they have to be the main character for the curse to apply.

    4. Re:The Seinfeld Curse! by Eccles · · Score: 1

      Hmm. I wonder if Julia Louis-Dreyfus' show will be cancelled before it starts.

      During a stand-up performance, Jerry Seinfeld said that they might work together again if their individual efforts flop, and Michael and Jason already had theirs, so...

      I for one shall miss the Tick, I was starting to like the cut of that man's jibberish. Are DivXs available online somewhere?

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    5. Re:The Seinfeld Curse! by JWhiton · · Score: 2

      Well, I don't know if he's the kiss of death for any new show. He (Warburton) has been on Family Guy for a few seasons. He's the voice of Peter's disabled neighbor, whose name escapes me at the moment. Joe?

  29. I Enjoyed It! by Ashcrow · · Score: 1

    I really liked the TV show. I am in the 'college crowd' so I like dry ramen as well. I think that if it got a better time slot, a little more money put into it and some advertisements it would have taken off. This kind of reminds me of Brisco Country Jr. Wasn't around for very long but people did like it.

  30. The world simply wasn't ready for The Tick by foxtrot · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, surely, our beloved City is unprepared for gigantic blue justice striding upon the rooftops of their daily lives. The forces of truth and justice fall silent this day, but they shall rise again like the head to the top of a cold one, if you know what I mean, chum. Yes, evildoers and television programming execs, you have won this round, but as sure as the sun will rise over the dark jungles of Tibet, your day in that sun will be over, and then you shall again face... The Tick.

    1. Re:The world simply wasn't ready for The Tick by guisar · · Score: 1

      Beautiful. You should have been a writer for the show. I'm not being sarcastic :)

    2. Re:The world simply wasn't ready for The Tick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The world simply wasn't ready for The Tick

      That, or TV is dead. So many new shows have been canceled lately so it didn't surprise me that the Tick was canceled too.

      Welcome to the age of the internet.

    3. Re:The world simply wasn't ready for The Tick by dangermouse · · Score: 1
      TV is dead

      Holy shit, that's a great t-shirt idea! Mind if I add it to my list of T-Shirt Ideas That May or May Not Come to Fruition, and May or May Not Profit Me in Some Way?

      (I'd be happy to include an attribution)

    4. Re:The world simply wasn't ready for The Tick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what the hell?? that sounds exactly like the tick! i dunno how you did it but you did. nice job. you made my day.

  31. anyone know where... by night_flyer · · Score: 1, Redundant

    someone could find the episodes to download?

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  32. Maybe if it'd been on by Octal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe if they had actually showed episodes, instead of pre-empting it with other crap, it'd have worked better. Or they could've started showing the episodes at the start of the season, when people haven't figured out viewing schedules yet.

  33. It wasn't the worst show of the fall season by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Here's a list of the Top 64 Shows That Didn't Make The Fall Season that's sure to brighten the day of even the most devout fan of 'The Tick'

    Rick

    1. Re:It wasn't the worst show of the fall season by PeeOnYou2 · · Score: 1

      That list is hilarious... "Everybody loves Osama" hahaha.. there are some really good ones on there..

  34. Won't be missed ... by ez76 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The series was pretty lyme if you ask me.

    1. Re:Won't be missed ... by Fesh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shhhhhh! There are some pretty devoted fans hanging around here... You might tick someone off!

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    2. Re:Won't be missed ... by Al+Gore · · Score: 0, Funny

      Stop spoon-feeding us the puns, guys.

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    3. Re:Won't be missed ... by strredwolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think if it continued to use the animated format instead of the live-action format, it would of gained more viewers. Some things aren't cut out for live-action. Tick was one of them -- it was good, very good, as an animated show.

      Other shows that should of been better off animated:
      Power Rangers (all series)
      Most(if not all) live-action shows comming from Saban Enterntainment (usually on Fox).

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    4. Re:Won't be missed ... by gspeare · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's too late...those blood-sucking network execs just didn't know a good thing when they latched onto--er, saw one. Thus, a show that was deer to our hearts passes on.

  35. Well, one less Tick for me to be confused with... by Tickenest · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seriously, though, I think the two biggest problems were 1) flimsy plots (i.e. crimefighters not really fighting much crime and 2) FOX.

    It is unfair to say things like, "How did the Simpsons do in its first season?" as I've seen a few people do, since the series, as everybody knows, spawned from the Christmas special, which came from the Tracy Ulmann show short pieces, so it had at least a little exposure before its first true season. Also, the expectations of new shows are different now than they were in the late 1980s. It used to be that networks would be willing to give shows more of a chance to build a fan base. Nowadays, if a show isn't a serious hit by midseason, it gets swept away. Sad, but true.

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  36. It was great by Ariven · · Score: 1

    I loved the episodes I could see.. but since the local fox affiliate couldn't seem to play the show, its no wonder they are canceling it...

  37. yet they can play 4 episodes of... by night_flyer · · Score: 2

    Family Guy Back to Back... wasnt the Tick supposed to be on Thursdays?

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    1. Re:yet they can play 4 episodes of... by dimator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Surely you're not speaking ill of Family Guy? In my book, that's the most ridiculously funny show on TV today. It does have a certain style that you just have to dig in order to like the show, though.

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  38. Speaking of Good Shows being Cancelled by Cyberllama · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Did September 11th kill "That's my Bush"? If so, then Osama bin Laden better watch his back. . .

    1. Re:Speaking of Good Shows being Cancelled by RAVasquez · · Score: 1

      It had already been cancelled. The show had gotten staggeringly expensive for basic cable. Pity, but at least Matt and Trey can work on the "That's My Bush!" movie. Assuming 9/11 hasn't killed that.

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    2. Re:Speaking of Good Shows being Cancelled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they have any creativity, 9/11 could be what makes such a venture.

  39. hmm... by iamdrscience · · Score: 1

    I never watched a full episode of it and I was never really a huge fan of the tick cartoon or comic, but it kind of seemed to me like it was a bad gimmick, if fox wanted to bring back the tick they should bring it back as the cartoon series. The only reason for making it live action I see besides "hey! it's a cartoon but with REAL PEOPLE!!!" is that animated series cost more money. Either way I don't like fox.

    Gimmick? Evil.
    Cheap? Evil.

    by the way, I can sit through the first season of the simpsons and I did this christmas with my brother because he brought home the DVD set. Not only did I watch them but I watched them with commentary as well.

    The Simpsons analogy doesn't go well because it was popular when it came out. I mean they were made into a series because the Tracy Ullman shorts were popular (even though those, for the most part, are REALLY lame). The reason why the first season simpsons seem kind of lame now is just because it's a totally different time now. I mean, the first season was 12 years ago, can you think of many things from 1990 that don't seem a little lamer now than they did then?

    1. Re:hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually the first season of the Simpsons is as good now as it was when it first aired.

  40. Nigh InVULnerable by Audent · · Score: 1

    dammit, you're all right.

    glad I didn't carve THAT on the moon though...

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  41. Once again, the networks screw the show by bryan1945 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems that over and over again networks put good, or at least promising, shows in awful spots or against established leaders. Hello? Put a good show in a dead spot (Thursday at 8 maybe, c'mon Survivor?!), let it build up an audience, then move it to a stronger slot.

    Futurama at 7 on Sundays?! This show is as good, if not better than, the Simpsons, yet it flounders...

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    1. Re:Once again, the networks screw the show by guisar · · Score: 1

      Futurama with the Evil Clause? Come'on that was a classic. "I see, it's fear that brings up together"

    2. Re:Once again, the networks screw the show by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      I guess you mis-understood me: I meant that Futurama at 7pm on Sundays is a totally travesty. It would do so much better at almost any other time slot! Who the hell watches TV at 7pm on Sunday (much less 7pm anyday?!)?

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    3. Re:Once again, the networks screw the show by PrestoChango · · Score: 1

      let it build up an audience, then move it to a stronger slot.

      You're absolutely right. I go to Caltech, and the House (dorm) I live in loves the Simpsons. When FOX moved the Simpsons from 6:30 to 6:00 we moved our dinner time to allow us to still watch it.

      You need to stick shows in timeslots during which people channel surf. Once it builds up an audience, THEN pit it against established shows.

    4. Re:Once again, the networks screw the show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey, i did last sunday and i watched futurama. i distinctly remember commenting on how *bad* the episode was. it was *horrible*. i think it got one laugh out of me.

    5. Re:Once again, the networks screw the show by joeberk · · Score: 1

      Putting "The Tick" on Thursday nights absolutely killed the show. It would have done far better if it had been put on Sunday nights, or even Tuesday nights, with an established show to help it finds its legs.

      I recall a radio interview where Patrick Warburton talked about how the folks on the show had been told the show would be on Sundays all along... then the show was moved to Thursdays. His tone seemed to indicate that he didn't think much of the move.

      As much as I'd like to see Comedy Central pick up the show, I'm not sure they can really afford a sitcom.

      Now I just wish I'd taped all the episodes. Anyone have them on tape, or VCD?

  42. Of course by hexix · · Score: 2

    I think anyone who didn't see this coming was fooling themselves simply because they liked the cartoon.

    The live action show was not funny at all. The closest I got to a chuckle was when they did a closeup on his face and the antennas would wiggle depending on his emotion. But then that just got creepy.

    Now if someone told me they were going to cancel The Family Guy, then I'd be shocked and start talking about bad time slots. But in The Tick's case, it just wasn't funny, sorry.

    1. Re:Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry but Family Guy WAS cancelled (again)

    2. Re:Of course by Optikal · · Score: 1

      They did practically cancel The Family Guy. There was a time when it was either off the air or just in some obscure timeslot that went unspoken. Of course, I did have the opportunity to bitch about it while I was a Neilsen Family surveyor for a week.

  43. Differences between networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Fox cancels a show, they take it off immediately and put on repeats of what worked, which explains why we had almost 10 weeks of Simpsons and KotH weeknights last year.

    When Com Central cans a show, they keep showing it ad naseum until they find something to replace it (which is why you keep seeing the same TV Funhouse over and over again).

  44. And who's suprised? by TheQuantumShift · · Score: 1

    I never saw this show lasting long at all. I did see a few episodes, mainly because nothing else was on, and I had liked the cartoon. But this show looked like a loser from the start, and now it's confirmed. People have raised the point of lack of advertising, but I think that's not it. I personally am sick of all the advertising fox does for it's programming. "Coming in six months" over and over for six months really makes me more inclined to flip it over to PBS when the damn show actually airs. Fox has it's few good shows but like all good things, they must continue for at least ten years. Or so Fox thinks. Like married with childeren was any good after they bumped off Steve, and started all that inane hooting and hollering. And I hate to admit it, but the Simpsons is getting less funny with each episode. I think if Fox stopped with the 6 or so months of hype before a show starts, they might actually get a better response. The Family guy seriously needs to go though. Christ, I can feel my IQ drop while watching it. Less effort in the family guy, and more for Futurama. Every few months I see an ad for "An all new Futurama" and I always think the same thing, Jesus, wasn't that cancelled last year? And for the LOVE OF GOD! stop with the X-Files!!!

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    1. Re:And who's suprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah man, most of the lines in "The Family Guy" and "The Tick" are hilarious.

      "His heat vision goes off when he's excited." and "I've licked my share of peanut butter." were great lines from both shows.

  45. If you don't want to see it canceled.... by Hyperkinetic · · Score: 1

    Write a nice letter to Fox and the sponsors telling them you don't want to see it canceled. It only takes a few positive responses to get them to turn it around.

  46. Save it by dkh · · Score: 1
    I loved the animated show. Never caught the live action show, not sure I even cared for the concept.

    However, you can always try to save that show.

  47. OMG! REJOICE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Tick has been cancelled!!!!!! REJOICE!!!!!

    Now, maybe CmdrIWatchCartoonsEvenThoughI'mLike25YearsOld will stop posting stories about it!!!!!!

    "News for Nerds"? With CmdrTaco it's more like News for Elementary Students.

  48. Invader Zim by NickFusion · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On, of all places, Nickelodeon, has much the same twisted sensibility as The Tick cartoon (I love them both, truly I do.)

    Also the brainchild of a independent comic...uh...guy, the fellow who did Johnny the Homicidal Manic.

    Doom Dooom Doom Dooom Doom Dooom De Doom Dooom....

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    1. Re:Invader Zim by Optikal · · Score: 1

      The JTHM guy is Johnen Vasqez. Of course I don't have a copy in front of me, so I either hit it on the head or it's something similar. It's some oddball name like that.

  49. Can't Say I'm Surprised... by xonker · · Score: 1

    Fox really bungled the Tick. What I don't understand is why they'd spend the money on developing a quirky series like this, and then put it up against Friends. IMHO, the Tick would have been perfect right after the Simpsons, or in the (horrible) Bernie Mac time slot.

    I can't say that the episodes I watched were terribly impressive, but it had possibilities -- and Patrick Warburton did a great job as the Tick.

    I guess we won't be seeing a Tick movie any time soon... nuts. At least we still have the comic!

  50. Here's your answer! by Zico · · Score: 1

    I've heard that Julia sometimes breaks into song during the show. I give it three weeks. :)

    1. Re:Here's your answer! by lostchicken · · Score: 1

      Well, we do know how well she dances...
      Hope she avoids this.

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    2. Re:Here's your answer! by markhb · · Score: 2

      She used to sing on Saturday Night Live (which was about the only camera time she got on the show), and wasn't bad. THey had her doing mostly Gilbert-and-Sullivan parodies, IIRC.

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  51. parent post is over rated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    parent post is so much over rated.

    look on morpheus like you should have in the first place instead of posting comments like this on slashdot.

    where else would you expect to find old shows of the tick? in the back of fox studio's dumpsters?

    i dont know why you even have a default score of 2, but you sure as hell dont deserve it.

  52. link to an interview with Patrick Warburton by blonde+rser · · Score: 2, Informative

    here is an interview with the tick himself on npr's freshair. talks about the show among other things... interview is pre-cancelation however

  53. What can we do to reverse this? by ChrisCampbell47 · · Score: 1
    Consarn it!

    That show was just about the only thing worth watching -- I've been taping every episode to archive tape just in case this happened. I haven't done that since the early 90's Simpsons episodes.

    So, what can we do to try to reverse this decision? There are precedents for networks bringing back shows after a public outcry. Who do I write to? (politely, of course)

  54. Captain Liberty Come back! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finally we get to see a real Women Superhero, Captain Liberty, and they take her off the air.

    Guess Ill go watch Lora Croft on the Tomb Raider dvd.

    (Disclaimer, humor alert)

  55. It was obvious that nobody knew how to market it.. by jerkychew · · Score: 1

    I had a rip of the live action pilot (which ended up being the first episode) on my PC for over a year before the show actually made it to Fox. That alone should say that the TV executives didn't know what the hell to do with the show. Perhaps Comedy Central will be wise enough to purchase the rights and market the show the way it's supposed to be?

  56. So long Bat Manuel by gizmo_mathboy · · Score: 1

    Does this meen that Ben will lose the rights to use Bat Manuel, Captain Liberty, and any other characters specifice to the live action Tick? I would love to see more Tick (maybe picked up by USA, SciFi, Comedy Central) and I really kind of liked Bat Manuel. An interesting take on a Die Fledermaus (Euro-trash vs. Latin lover stereotypes).

    I guess this means that Family Guy is probably going down, too. Why else would I watch TV Thursday night other than The Family Guy and The Tick?

  57. Blasted! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blasted! First The Invisible Man and now The Tick. Oh well, I don't get Fox anyway--only saw the pilot at a friends house. Maybe now FX will rerun it and I can Tivo it.

  58. Re:WRONG WRONG WRONG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Missing percentage is people who are not in a relationship.

  59. Julia Louis-Dreyfus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope not. I saw a promo with her wearing a skimpy nightie.

    Other than that, the show looked stupid. It will probrably fail.

  60. Where the villains are by Exatron · · Score: 1

    None of the characters that first appeared in the cartoon were available in the live action version of the series because several different companies owned the rights to them and couldn't agree on licensing fees for using the characters. That is also why American Maid became Captain Liberty and Dir Fliedermaus became Batmanuel.

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      Oh, I know that. What I meant was why couldn't they create new villains who were larger than life. I mean, they could at least have done Tommy the Evil Boy Genius. The problem is they backed away from creating really epic villains to doing a Seinfeldesque sitcom about the main characters dealing with anemic villains that couldn't scare Police Chief O'Hara from the old Batman series.

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  61. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This show sucked ass. Name one good thing about it. Oh yeah, it's off the air. What a piece of shit!

  62. Re:Phew, I thought it was just me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nope - i have been amazed at how stupid many people are that frequent here.

  63. Its over now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.softlandmark.com/Audioplayers.htm

  64. Why not wait and see? by /ASCII · · Score: 1
    The first episode of The Tick will air this weekend in sweden. Or was it last weekend?


    Sad to see a TV-series cancelled before it even hits the international market. Wasn't that the story with Twin Peaks? It was a dud in the US so Lynch had to wrap it up prematurely, then it became a huge hit in europe, but it was already to late.


    My favorite prematurely cancelled TV-show was American Gothic, though. Man, that show rocked.

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    1. Re:Why not wait and see? by Amanset · · Score: 1

      They've shown at least three episodes in Sweden so far. The last one I saw was when Arthur told his Mother about beign a super-hero. I think it started before Christmas, but got postponed during the Christmas period.

  65. Cancelled?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That ticks me off

  66. Re:Wow by Peyna · · Score: 1

    You know, there is a reason you can customize /. and everything so that you only see stories from the sections you want to. If you just want to read about Linux or whatever else, then go to your user preferences page and turn everything else off. It's not that hard to do.

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  67. me too! by aka-ed · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Of course, a "me too!" post deserves a down-mod. But I also am karma-capped...

    I think /. should at least try eliminating down-mod, keep up-mods and add a point or two to the scale. Increase the number of moderators, so the really slimey posts will be spotted quickly.

    As it stands, there's too much mod power in the hands of too few people; it should not be possible for one guy to make one other guy disappear! Sure somebody else may up-mod, but how many readers later?

    I wouldn't want to see moderation completely go, as a low signal-to-noise ratio also acts as "censorship" to the site as a whole, by making /. entirely unreadable.

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  68. animation was better by $goat+man$ · · Score: 0

    the live action show sucks much...however, the animation was pretty damn funny.

  69. Re:Well, one less Tick for me to be confused with. by roju · · Score: 1

    You just triggered a thought for me. Technically, the Tick had lots of exposure before this live-action one was aired. It was a cartoon years ago. [I know everyone knows it was a cartoon, but nobody seems to be counting that as previous exposure]

  70. Re:Well, one less Tick for me to be confused with. by Tickenest · · Score: 1

    Well, I meant that it wasn't exposed in this format (live-action). The Simpsons was always in an animated format.

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  71. Tick the TV show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As an ardent fan of the cartoon I had high hopes when they announced the "real-life" series. I was deeply disappointed. The series sucked rocks and deserves to go away. Make new cartoon episodes. Delightful subtlety that the meatspace version couldn't begin to contemplate.

  72. Standard Network Male-ox-excrement by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 2
    I don't watch TV anymore (just DVDs & tapes), but the bogus time slot sounds like exactly what happened to The Single Guy when I was at college. It used to be a good show in a great slot--between Friends and Seinfeld. Then they moved it to its own night and ran it head-to-head with some show I don't recall anymore, but which was better. It was suicide, plain and simple: like sending out a poodle to fight a hippo. And there was no reason for it. The network had a guaranteed audience for an hour-and-a-half, and three good shows in each slot. But they killed that, for no reason I can discern. And a good show died for no good reason.

    That sort of nonsense is not, actually, why I don't watch TV. The simple fact of the matter is that television is finely crafted to be as appealing as possible. As such, it s deuced difficult not to be attracted to it. And if one's not careful, one might spend all one's time in front of the tube. So I play on the computer, which is slightly less bad, or read books, which is much better. More of the former than the latter, I'm afraid:-)

    1. Re:Standard Network Male-ox-excrement by LegendLength · · Score: 1
      And a good show died for no good reason.

      No, sorry. It died because it was a textbook sitcom.
  73. Re:Well, one less Tick for me to be confused with. by roju · · Score: 1

    Very true. On the other hand, neither the current incarnation of the tick, nor the Simpsons show started from nowhere. Both did exist in some form or other before becoming shows.

    Still, you're right in that success in a cartoon format !==> success in a live-action format.

  74. SPOOOON!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't say I'm sorry to see the show go. I loved the quirky animated show, but the live version just didn't have the same level of excitement. I especially think Patrick Warburton's portrayal of the Tick was way off target; he came off as being too soft-spoken and dim-witted, in contrast to the cartoon hero's thundering expression of simple-mindedness.

  75. Reminds me of "Get a life" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Get a life" starring Chris Elliot and his father Bob Elliot (of "Bob and Ray" fame) was the highest rated new FOX show of the 1990 season, but it was cancelled, while a lesser rated show called "Beverly Hills 90210" stayed on the air for way to long. Must be fun to be a TV executive, no stress like in other industries where an executive is expected to make sense every once in a while.

  76. Time Slot by Dr.+Tom · · Score: 2

    Time slot? Who cares? I almost never watch a show "live" these days. Who has the time to schedule their lives around network broadcasts? I have two VCRs and they are both programmed to the hilt. (Why do VCRs only have 8 program slots? A salescritter I asked said "most people don't use them at all." He's probably right.) I watch shows when *I* want to. And I fast forward through the commercials. Phthbppppt!

    1. Re:Time Slot by IronChef · · Score: 3, Insightful


      I cannot believe no one has posted a "Get a Tivo" or "get a ReplayTV" note yet. So I'll do it.

      2 VCRs? Dude, get a Tivo or ReplayTV. Then it will take a month to wipe the smile off your face.

  77. Shoes of justice will one day kill the bug of evil by fireboy1919 · · Score: 2

    I await the day television executives aren't 40, and aren't appealing to 40 year olds.

    The day that business executives are mostly slashdot readers, and the "working man" watches cartoons. The day is coming, my friends. Cartoon network has "adult swim" now - with comics specifically for adults.
    It is only a matter of time. Quantum computing may or may not be a reality, but the Tick will rise again. And so will Shaft.

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  78. NOOOOOO! by nodrip · · Score: 1


    The Tick, Kicked Ass.
    I am.. Batmanuel!
    What a loss. sniff.

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  79. cancelled?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how can this be so?! it was only the worst fucking show i had ever seen in my entire life.

  80. Tick was opposite Survivor!!! by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    So they decide to cancel it just as Survivor ends?

    I think that was drawing a lot of people away. Perhaps it will pick up a bit, but it sounds like it wouldn't be soon enough to save the show.

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  81. Ben Edlund's future projects by iantf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I went to hear Ben Edlund speak a few years ago, and after he had fielded a couple dozen questions about minutiae from Tick cartoon episodes, I asked "What are you working on besides The Tick?" And he smiled and said, "You know, I'm really glad you asked me that."

    So, while I'm sorry to see The Tick go, I got the impression that Ben's ready to move on. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing what's next. Ben, you made the world a little weirder - thanks.

  82. terrifying time slot guaranteeing nobody saw it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This show sounded pretty questionable when it first came out. It might have pulled it off if it did something spectacular, but it was just not that good in cast, story or production. It had a very few good moments, but will not be missed by most. However, the statement that it had a terrifying time slot must not go unchallanged. It had the best slot a show could have had - after Friends and against Inside Swartz, a show people were turning away from in droves. ABC and NBC were in the middle of hour long shows, so it should have at least gotten the entire Friends audience.

    The show just wasn't that great, but another factor against it wasn't it's time slot so much as that it wasn't in it's time slot very often. You don't build up a following by showing a couple of weeks, and then just when word of mouth might get you some viewers put on lame filler instead until the audience looses interest or just forgets about the show.

  83. I hope the family guy isn't affected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this show's cancellation dominos onto the family guy, I'll be pissed enough to dress up like a stupid goddam insect with a bad script

    1. Re:I hope the family guy isn't affected by jonerik · · Score: 1

      I suspect that at this point "The Family Guy" is pretty much unkillable; just like Jerry Lee Lewis. Every time you start throwing dirt on its coffin it somehow manages to claw its way back to the surface.

  84. Re:Well, one less Tick for me to be confused with. by RoninM · · Score: 2

    Well, The Simpsons had better (read: some) exposure to its target audience (WRT timeslot. Tickheads followed it, but, obviously, the network wasn't in it for a few thousand hardcore fans). The transition from Saturday morning to Thursday night isn't exactly ideal, especially when spaced by a handful of years. I won't count the brief stint on Comedy Central, since being on cable in the wee hours of a Monday (what was it? 1am?) can't be considered exposure.

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  85. Re:WRONG WRONG WRONG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep your Dingle-Norwood in your lockbox Mr. Alpha Male.

  86. no big surprise there by mr.ska · · Score: 2
    As compared to the animated version, the live action Tick (the character, not the entire show) was positively flat, unrewarding, and generally a disappointment. Whether it was poorly cast, or just lacklustre writing, the Tick blew relative to his animated predecessor.

    So long, live action Tick. I hardly knew thee, and now I won't have to.

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  87. Only 2 were shown by Pope · · Score: 1

    ABC aired episode 4 first, then episode 2 (the flashback episode).

    I didn't care, really (about the order) : 4 stands on its own, and I thought the idea of having flashbacks to events that hadn't happened yet was fucking briliant! I assumed Kevin Smith was making fun of all the clip shows on TV, where everyone sits around and remembers all the wacky things they did before.

    It was only after I had bought the DVDs for a friend's birthday did
    I find out what the running order was supposed to be.

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  88. Re: M$ Investor by crow_t_robot · · Score: 0

    Is baby gonna cwy? :(

  89. Wait for the movie by Pope · · Score: 1
    Bob and David have a movie coming out: Run Ronnie Run

    Those guys rule!

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  90. True dat! by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

    Yes, I watched the cartoon years ago and it was quite funny. But the show? Come on. Real men in cartoon outfits? Thats not funny. And saying childish things? Who were they fooling? There was that move like that which I enjoyed, but not a TV show...

    1. Re:True dat! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, just like that idiotic "Mystery Men" movie. Who were they kidding?

  91. I don't mind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Tick sucked anyway. Totally inappropriate humor. It seems like most sitcoms today are just vehicles for inappropriate sex to be taught to young people.

  92. Fox's programming methods. by gpinzone · · Score: 1

    Fox needed to hold onto ANY show that was even mildly successful. Don't get me wrong, I loved "Married with Children," but any other network would have cancelled it when the Seven character was introduced. Fortunately, they rebounded and got past that rough spot.

    Fox shows were given the ability to get a cult following (like the X-Files) simply because Fox had little else of value to broadcast. Remember the Simpson's episode with Troy McClure displaying a diagram of Fox's weekly lineup: "Simpsons", "X-Files", and "???" all over the place?

    If a show can't "self-correct" itself and at least find a niche audience, fox will cancel them swiftly. The trick with Fox broadcasting is to find a hook and develop it quickly before you get shit-canned.

    BTW, this isn't a criticism of Fox broadcasting methods. If ST:TOS was on Fox instead of NBC, it would still be on the air.

    1. Re:Fox's programming methods. by Tukla · · Score: 1
      If ST:TOS was on Fox instead of NBC, it would still be on the air.

      And the women would be wearing even skimpier costumes.

  93. At least Arthur has found work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His new movie The Mothman Prophecies will be opening soon!

    That's why I remain anonymouse.

  94. The premise deserves more time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The tick was about extreme characters in a very normal setting. What made the show great is that the setting wasn't a fantasy world. That would have made it just another Saturday morning cartoon.

    The notion of superheroes living among the normal population is a great premise. Fox should have let them develop it. There aren't any television shows that I make a point to see - but I try not to miss this one.

    The Tick lives between animation and 'real life.'
    That makes it original. Unfortunately, that's not enough for the big networks.

  95. I do believe it sucked ass! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comic book == good
    Cartoon == good
    Live Action TV show != good

  96. Drop FOX an Email by Kombat · · Score: 1

    For those of you truly dedicated to the show, you can drop FOX an email at askfox@foxinc.com. It'll only take a minute, and it might just make a difference. I've already sent mine. What have we got to lose?

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  97. First impressions by lostboy2 · · Score: 1

    I admit I only saw part of one episode of the live-action series; but, as a fan of the comic book and the cartoon, I was awfully disappointed in what I saw (it was that episode where the Immortal dies).

    I thought the pace or timing seemed off (although I did think that I could warm up to Warburton, eventually). And it seemed that they went for overused sight gags with the dead body too much (like those movies about the dead guy, Weekend at Bernies, I think it was called).

    Basically, as others have mentioned, it seemed like much of the wacky humor of the Tick was replaced with the formulaic humor (and plot) of the networks.

    I was also disappointed in Arthur, who looked and acted too much like Rick Moranis from the Ghostbusters. Plus, Arthur is supposed to be chubby -- he's the Pudgy-Voice-of-Reason! He seemed too scrawny in the live-action series to me.

    Granted, this is just the impression I got from seeing about half of an episode, but it didn't make me want to watch it again. I can only imagine what people who were not already fans thought.

    And while I was/am willing to give the series another chance, like other people have mentioned, I had no real idea what time it airs (aside from the Futurama-Simpsons-XFiles stretch, I don't watch much TV).

    Well, here's hoping that it gets picked up (and improved) by some other channel. Comedy Central seems like a good candidate -- I could do without that bowling show.

    -- D.

    Your mother ate my dog! --Paquita, Braindead

  98. Married with Children by hawk · · Score: 2
    And the only reason that *it* was a success is that that woman (in Michigan?) raised a hullabo when someone said, "bra." The series was only meant for half a season, but people watched it because of the attention she gave it.


    Kind of like the topless donut shops that pop up in California: an incredibly stupid idea, but you're pretty much guaranteed that NOW will show up and protest, getting you press coverage, and the thing works for a few months (before succumbing to the "incredibly stupid idea" thing).


    hawk

  99. surprised still on - no advertising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    saw the first episode while on business travel
    never heard another word about it since until now
    dont even know what tv network it's on currently
    maybe this will be another mst3k deals where it gets resurrected a half dozen times over the next decade

  100. and the theaters by hawk · · Score: 2
    When I saw War of the Roses, it had a Simpsons short--which was the reason I didn't bother looking at the first couple of years of the series . . .


    hawk

  101. Alot of you are forgetting by Damon+C.+Richardson · · Score: 1

    Forgetting that the show sucked.

    and that idiot that played the tick should have his acting licence taken away.

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  102. Live Action Family Guy by Mad+Man · · Score: 1

    Rumor has it that "The Tick" is going to be replaced with a live-action version of "Family Guy."

    It must be true because it was on the internet.

    1. Re:Live Action Family Guy by mblumber · · Score: 1

      Did you see the FOX "let's preempt the entire primetime lineup and show family guy" thing last night. That was entertaining.

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  103. This sucks - The Tick was great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I must be different from everyone in the world. I don't watch network television at all, but I did make it a point to watch this show. I think the dialog was great and the casting was perfect.

    In my opinion, interesting dialog is what makes a show good and re-watchable. For example, Mr. Bean may be funny the first time you see it, but if you see a re-run, you don't want to watch it again. At least I don't. However, The Black Adder (from season two on) has excellent dialog and is always a joy to watch no matter how many times you've seen it.

    The Tick was like that for me. I liked the dialog and found myself re-watching almost every episode I taped. I wish FOX would have put it in a better time slot and given it a little more time.

  104. Re:Dang [pun warning] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sigh.
    I guess Fox is just a nonce-Tick surface.

  105. Fare thee well, Batmanuel, we barely knew you by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    Can't we start a petition?
    Get the fox site slashdotted intentionally ;-)
    Flood 'em with emails requesting, nay, DEMANDING that the tick be put on right after Futurama, and that they divulged the top secret time slot of futurama while they're at it?

    You know a show is about to die when they change its time slot around everyweek until NO ONE knows when its on.
    I'm convinced its some stupid internal rivalry between execs...killing one guy's show because he drank the last cup of punch at the xmas party and whatnot.

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  106. "That's my Bush" by SpacePunk · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a show for the Playboy channel.

  107. It was good, but was missing something by Mean_Nishka · · Score: 1

    The tick was alright.. But it was missing something. It focused too much on their individual trials and tribulations than destroying evil villains. While probably good for hard core tick fans, 'the general public' probably wasn't impressed.

  108. Ratings - only slightly behind Enterprise.. by jbuilder · · Score: 1

    This is crap! Take a look at the ratings as compared to other SciFi shows:

    The X-Files 6.2
    Smallville 3.9
    Dark Angel 3.3
    Enterprise 2.8
    Charmed 2.8
    The Tick 2.5
    Buffy 2.5
    Angel 2.5
    Special Unit 2 1.8
    Roswell 1.4

    The Tick is only slightly behind shows like Enterprise. And that tripe roswell is STILL on the air.

    This is totally lame and totally sucks. The Tick ROX and Fox should have done more for it than a handful of episodes...

    First the Lone Gunmen and now this. What a bunch of puds.

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    1. Re:Ratings - only slightly behind Enterprise.. by buckeyeguy · · Score: 1

      Its an eye-opener when you look at the numbers instead of the hype, or non-hype... but when looking at ratings remember that for a long time, some of the highest rated American TV shows had been original episodes of the 'Beverly Hillbillies'...

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  109. Cursed! by crumbz · · Score: 1

    The Tick suffered from the Seinfeld curse. See Cosmo, George and soon to be Elaine's show.

  110. u guys are LOSERS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you pretentious tick fans are fucking losers who've been out of highschool too long and need to be put back in your place

    lets hear u shout "spoon" when i fucking stuff u in a locker

    fuck i hate nerds

    if theres anything i hate more its the gay ass things u find funny like the tick

  111. Timeslots by _aa_ · · Score: 2

    I disagree that the timeslot had anything to do with the demise of the show. Timeslots become popular because of the shows, not the other way around. NBC has 0wn3d Thursday evenings ever since the cosby show, but before the cosby show it was fair game. After that, they put their best crap their to maintain their thursday night audience. Of course now they are losing to survivor but that is besides the point. Thursday night is the biggest TV night for no reason other than the popularity of the cosby show. My basic point being that, aside from like the 2am-7am time slots, the quality of the show dictates it's popularity far more than the timeslot.

    Furthermore, as TiVo and similar technology popularizes, hopefully the networks will realize that they can run more series in the 2am-7am timeslots, because suddenly timeslots are irrelevant because people will watch the show whenever they want to. It'd be nice if they would run entire seasons of the simpsons, etc. marathon style during the off hours for the convinience of tivo viewers.

  112. Why is this surprise? But there is hope... by koganuts · · Score: 1

    This is FOX... the same network that initially cancelled Family Guy, only to bring it back after they received a lot of letters. From what I recall, FOX didn't initially know they had a gem with Malcolm in the Middle either.

    Bottom line is, if enough snail-mail letters are sent to FOX (trust me on this, networks give snail-mail more weight than e-mails), there is a possibility that the show could be saved. It's worked in the past for the original Star Trek (thus its third season) as well as Roswell (thus its second season).

    In the case of Roswell, fans sent thousands of bottles of tabasco sauce to The WB as a show of support. With The Tick, perhaps fans can instead send... spoons?

  113. Other Stations by Brand+X · · Score: 2

    Generally agree about Fox. Simpsons has had ups and downs, but is in an up (and the downs were still better than friends) Futurama is great, Malcolm is Great, Family Guy is pretty good, if a little overboard, The Tick was shaping up quite well, 24 isn't perfect, but it's good... but it isn't a comedy, it's a drama, so... drama's are fair game? Then you slight NBC. They have the Law and Order franchise (and the original and SVU are actually really a damn sight better than 24, frankly) and some of the best miniseries on broadcast. West Wing, Crossing Jordan, and ER are too good to dismiss out of hand, especially if you're willing to put 24 on your list. I'm not all that impressed with CBS on Dramas. I mean, "The Agency"? But they had the wisdom to take the free agent CSI, which is really one of the five best dramas in broadcast and syndication right now, as far as I'm concerned. ABC is just plain bad, and UPN, well, I can't even watch Enterprise (and lest you peg me, I have cable entirely because I missed Farscape too much, in spite of my "who has time for TV" attitude.) I really don't watch anything but the first two Law and Order shows (but not CI), CSI, Farscape, Titus, The Tick, Futurama, 24, and Smallville (sorry, I don't know why, but I like it. Probably because of Michael Rosenbaum, who manages to do a weirdly believable road to hell character), and all of those I approach with a tape-it-and-catch-it-later attitude. I'm two months behind on some of them, and that's taking reruns into account. So my habits result in... NBC (2 hours), CBS (1 hour), Fox (2.5 hours), WB (1 hour), and SF (1 hour) Admittedly, my rare extras include Simpsons, Malcolm, and Family Guy. So Fox gets more than the rest. Followed by NBC. ABC gets none of my eyeball time.

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  114. Johnen Vasquez vs Ben Edlund by Brand+X · · Score: 2

    Now, I was a fan from the start when I first happened across issue number 3 of The Tick (in the hands of a friend who let me read it) and ended up buying the graphic novel as soon as it saw daylight. I love the humor of the comic, and found the show far more true than the cartoon.

    I've also never seen Invader Zim. Is that what happened to Vasquez after the second issue of "I Feel Sick!"? There was mention of a cartoon, but...

    But there is a world of difference between The Tick and JTHM. The first time I walked into my favorite indie-friendly comic shop (and I still patronize that sort even if it means going 40 minutes out of my way and spending a lot more than I would on subscriptions, because I value their existance, damnit!) and laid eyes on the grotesque and fascinating work that was Johnny, I was blown away. Twisted. Sick. Perverse. Strangely compelling. His world is the polar opposite of The Tick. With the same innocent disconnectedness, but nothing else in common, Johnny sees himself as artist and equalizer, striking out against the "righteous" and popular, the petty and mostly harmless bullies and bureaucrats of his world, sometimes with a spork. And while he terrifies poor Squee (see Squee's own title), he never considers harming the victim of the condescending, the contemptuous, the too-perfect. And somehow, you're never quite sure if Johnen himself is sane, or even safe.

    Now, a show (cartoon, of course) based on JTHM would be... frightening. It would never sell. But... the kid brother of a friend, who I had introduced to JTHM, actually contacted Johnen and got his permission to adapt a play from that same series... and managed to produce and run it at a rather uptight and proper elite high school. And it went over well. Remarkable...

    So, your thoughts... whither bound the properties of The Tick? Will we ever see another show, animated or otherwise? Perhaps a new patron could be found, one willing to give it a real chance?

    For now, I must actually record myself some episodes of this "Invader Zim"... it will be some consolation, at least.

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  115. Budget Budget Budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is what happened:

    1.) Fox Executive understood The Tick starts project, but gets moved to another project

    2.) New executive doesn't get it - battens down the hatches budget-wise and puts it in a time slot sure to kill it.

    voila! The show he doesn't understand with the huge budget is gone and no one can blame him - if had worked, well, all the better.

    The show was soooo cramped for cash it never had a chance.

    It really needed to be animated - that way you could have all the sets and effects you wanted, and it would be closer to as concieved.

    Humor can be a delicate thing of precise timing and tone - throw in executives, a budget, and actors with thier own take on a charcter and it's no surprise that most "comedies" on network tv need laugh tracks.

    Not that anyone will read or respond to this post.