I'm not sure that reading the source code would help the chess player unless they also happened to be a programmer:-)
Although, I don't see why it should be neccessary in the first place... it's just a game, get a grip, folks.
Yes, the humans involved should be allowed to rest, and in fact take as long as they want in pondering their moves against the computers. The computers obviously won't take long in deciding what moves they're going to play, but humans like to ponder.
Zope allows faster creation of dynamic sites and the ability to manage thousands of pages via user priveledges built into the Zope platform. ASP is ok for quick hacks (but not as good as Perl, PHP or Python), but for large sites, using raw web scripting can be time consuming. Zope allows scalability using the ZEO clustering, which basically takes a Zope Object from the Zope Object Database (built into the Zope Platform) and balances the requests over a cluster of Zope Servers using replication and synchronization...and maximum flexibility by being fully open source. Zope Methods can be written and the Zope platform can be extended using the amazing ZClasses API, one of the cleanest I've seen.
Every ground pattern must be further encapsulated into a map entry, probably stored either in a hashtable or a db, when the load becomes to great for a normal memory mapping to effectively map to the physical display....this is a key stumbling block to GIS and GIS won't be able to go mainstream until it's overcome - people don't want to see slow, chunky terrain in polygons
In a word, it's the application component architecture that's going to kill Microsoft...I only wish that KDE would adopt Bonobo.....that'll speed up adoption of Linux on the desktop by about 3 years.
Stroustrup himself has said in his retrospective book "The Design and Evolution of C++" (p. 207), "Within C++, there is a much smaller and cleaner language struggling to get out. Many hackers would now add 'Yes, and it's called Java'
That pretty much sums it up. C++ is an industry standard in much the same way that Windows 9X became the industry standard desktop. In some cases this is good, but in others it's not - one language cannot rule them all, however, one language can bind them - the ultimate glue component language, Python.
The power to integrate with the rest of the system through technologies such as Bonobo....can you extend any application and even add to the codebase itself in anything other than C++/QT in KDE ? No, I didn't think so.
Still, KDE is a nice system and may in fact be the desktop of choice to someone who prefers the draconian Windows-like feel, such as an Executive Business User.
It's true that KDE is more stable and slightly faster than Gnome at the moment, but the key to Gnome is that it's not as draconian or "locked-in" as KDE.
KDE requires development to be done in C++...anyone can hack Gnome code in whatever language they want - Perl, Python, C, Java, you name it. I'd be surprised if a Gtk+ Bash binding doesn't come out soon.
Freedom is very important to GNU proponents and most Linux users, and Gnome is definitely a more extensible, free-thinking enviroment. Sure, some aspects of it are not at the level of their KDE counterparts yet, but in the end, Gnome has the right key ideal, freedom....
And I'm not talking about GPL vs. Whatever, I realize that KDE is GPL'd and Qt is GPL'd for free apps...I'm talking about the spirit of freedom rather than the strict definition of freedom that using the GPL bestows upon software under its banner.
KDE's draconian development enviroment, user interface and application methodology are breaking the spirit of freedom by forcing users to do things THEIR WAY and THEIR WAY only. Yes it might be more stable, and faster, but it's definitely not as free - and that's as in the spirit of freedom, not true freedom itself. Both are important, though.
Just the same, most animals don't actively think about why (or whom) they are fscking
Well, that has nothing to do with whether or not they enjoy it. Show me any mammal species that doesn't enjoy having an orgasm...I think Lizz is right, you're just trying to bamboozle yourself with human mysticism suggesting that humans having sex is something different from other species having sexAs Lizz said, turn your brain on once in a while:-P (Ok, just kidding there, but come on - can you honestly argue with biological logic for the sake of trying to put human sexuality on a pedestal for some unknown reason?)
Mozilla has been improving rapidly since M16 or so. I've been a Mozilla user since M13 and it seems to me, that the Mozilla development model benefits greatly from user feedback from the Talkback Builds. I reported bugs every time I encountered them, and I'm quite sure that if everyone who tried Mozilla did this, instead of just saying: "Ah well, this sucks...IE is so much better"...Mozilla would've reached the incredible stability it has now (0.8+) a lot sooner. Yes, Mozilla is stable, fast and pretty good at the moment. There are still bugs, but there are bugs with all browsers, including the touted IE. Noone's managed to crack my PC using a bug in Mozilla, Explorer.exe has never been crashed and caused a demanded reboot because Mozilla went down. So perhaps it's time to stop complaining, and start using and reporting bugs you find with Mozilla. It's GPL now, so the far-left GPL'ers have no excuse either. Support Free Software!
noticed that my computer was only recognizing 64 MB
edit the file/etc/lilo.conf and add "append linux mem = M" after your label (linux usually)
I couldn't get ftpd working ever again
edit the file/etc/inetd.conf and ensure that your ftp section is uncommented. If this is the case, restart the inetd daemon.
As for mpg123, I've hardly used it personally, and unfortunately I can't find any good MPG players for linux:-( even the "commercial" ones like mTV seem to perform terribly even when reniced to -19 !!!!
I think this is a huge stumbling block for linux acceptance, btw.
I agree fully. The Internet needs to be accessible to the masses, and countries like Costa Rica implementing projects like this is a good sign that they "get it" with regard to Internet communications. In the future, people will rely heavily on information to get things done, speed of information will dictate the effectiveness of businesses and individuals.
However, the Internet in general is facing a problem: As a Slashdotter pointed out in the comments section of the story about the great Internet pioneer, Donald Davies, there are fewer and fewer people who understand Internet fundamentals fully. Yes, there are a few - great hackers, CCIE's, and old-timers. But new IT professionals walk in with their CS degree or MCSE and really don't know much. They probably couldn't even tell you what a/30 or a/29 is.
More CCIE's are the solution, some people would say, but the fact is that the CCIE qualification, while good, ties people down to one vendor - Cisco, which will create a kind of Microsoftian situation, except with networking equipment and protocols (ever hear of the Cisco Properietry protocols? Ayup.)
However, a solution to this problem is at hand. The GNU/Zebra. This is a robust routing daemon which is fully open sourced, released under the excellent GNU license. I can't remember the URL offhand, but there is a large project which aims to implement a CCIE-like course based on the product, and which also includes a lot of GNU/Linux material. The course will take the candidate through Linux basics, and then move on to Networking basics, and then advanced Networking (BGP, IGRP, OSPF, etc). They will then be taught how to apply these concepts with the GNU/Zebra. The reasoning behind this is that long after Cisco has died out, Zebra and Linux will live on, due to their open source nature. It's a common argument against all propreirty companies, and , I think, a valid one. Even if the company is huge, it might not survive in all sectors, and if it is a hegu one concetrating on one sector - it might go down completely with advances in technology and demand for flexible solutions that the company, no matter how big it was or how it tried to cover al l the bases, so to speak, failed to see and got left behind. This isn't unlikely to happen in the Networking arena, and Cisco is a prime target for the kind of failure described above.
The ZIE (Zebra Internetworking Expert) course will also be amied at educating more people, even though it will be fairly expensive at first, it will be priced reasonably once it reaches a certain level of acceptance by the business community. Their will be 3 exams. 2 written, and one lab. The 2 written will consist of Linux basics and Networking, (which will include both Networking basics, in the Linux module, intermediate Networking and advanced Networking in the Networking module). In the lab, the candidates will be asked to simulate a real working eviroment and interface with other hardware and software, using the GNU/Zebra technology.
Availability: These exams will be available through various LUGs around the world, eventually. At first they will probably only be available through a few centers in major areas in the US and Europe.
Pricing: There are several factors in the price here, and although it will be more expensive overall than the CCIE at first, the prices will go down as the qualification gains acceptance by the business community and the availability goes up with the rise of Linux, Open Source, and cooperating from various LUGs and other Linux/Open Source organizations. The written exams will be around $250 each, with the lab exam costing $1,000. If the candidates fail their first time, they will be given a compensation period of 2 months in which they can rewrite the lab exam for $500. The most expensive part of the course will be travelling to Zimbabwe. It is neccessary for all candidates who have completed the lab and written exams to be initiated in Zimbabwe, where they will need to mate with a Zebra mare. At present, female candidates aren't provided for. This will change as the conditions above are fulfilled , though. The trip itself will cost $5,000, hotel accomodation included.
It's the hope of the organizers of this qualification that it will encourage the use of non-propreitry solutions for networking in mainstream organizations, and promote the use of Open Source technology in general. It's believed by them that the Open Source methodology will not only lead to technical benefits, but will allow communications to go to the next level by bringing back the cooperation of old that started the internet and allowed it to grow, in short: the hacker and scientest and military cooperation of the 60s, 70s and 80s., without which such innovation would have been impossible. Thanks,
It's an echo of what happened years ago: "Real Programmers don't use structured languages like C. Real Programmers use FORTRAN. If you can't do it in FORTRAN, do it in Assembly, if you can't do it in Assembly, it isn't worth doing. C is a cute toy language, but just no good for real world applications. The UNIX hackers who use it aren't sure wheter the print command is 'printf' or 'cout' this week, how is it ever going to manage to survive in the real world ??"
Yeh. C forever. I don't know wheter or not Java will be the next-wave language, but saying that "C will never be replaced because there's nothing better" is just kind of moronic.
Let me apply this "burden" to the 'net: if you connect to the Internet and pass a virus (even unaware) your privileges to stay connected may be revoked or suspended. What?!? Well, you take on a lot of responsibility to connect to the rest of us. If you cannot take basic precautions to protect others from your transmissions then you are subject to loosing your right to be on the 'net. The onus is on you.
***Sigh***. You're so right. That's a logical deduction. However, what you aren't realizing here is that connecting to the 'Net can't be compared to, as you've done here, driving a car. The 'Net has become such a integral part of businesses worldwide, that it would just cost too much to start educating a semi-computer literate world in the way you're suggesting. Driving licenses are traditional, they've always been around. Internet security licenses? I don't think so. Connections to the Internet have grown exponentially since around 1994. It's only 2000 now, and *billions* of people are connected to the internet. You can't disconnect these people because they fail a Internet security test, because then you would be disconnecting way too many people. Remember, the average CEO of a company (Suit) isn't even semi-literate (computerwise), perhaps if it's a tech company, yes, otherwise, you'll be luckily if he's semiliterate.
It's easy to post on Slashdot that this kind of thing should happen. The majority of Slashdot readers are tech savvy, and all of them could probably be considered more than semi-computer literate.
Finally, with 300+ million people connected to the Internet (approx), in most major countries around the world, how would you implement such a test? It would take years even if the bureacrats agreed.
No, the only short-term solution is to inform your co-workers individually (ie, each person who has tech knowledge, inform your co-workers about the dangers of Outlook, Attachments, etc, and tell them the benefits of more secure software, and perhaps, if circumstances permit, more secure operating systems, like Linux or the ultra-stable Solaris Operating Enviroment
Of course, an excellent way to avoid this kind of thing from happening is to use more secure development/application deployment systems. The Java platform has been built by security conciousness engineers right from the start of the project. The Java platform has been tested by security consultants around the world and found to be very secure. Applications written for the Java platform are less likely to cause major damage to the host system due to key design features, such as memory protection. Even though the Java language is extremely networkable and can load Java classes over the internet dynamically, these will be run in protected memory spaces, and Java classes can be digitally signed, therefore enhancing security. Sure, the Java platform isn't 100% secure, but no platform is, and Java certainly is extremely secure compared to other platforms.Of course, UNIX platforms are inherently more secure than Win 9.X too, as they have similar per-user run spaces and permissions (and , of course, UNIX mail readers aren't designed as exploitably as Outlook!!).
I have to agree with you that using Transmeta's code-morphing technology and its ability to do software instruction set implementation could be a Big Thing for the robust Java platform. The question is, will a total Java chip include other instruction sets? Java's great, btu unless you had it co-processing with other , more traditional IS's, I don't know how much acceptance it would gain *outside* the staunch Java followers.
That said, it would be an enourmous speed advantage and potentially ground breaking technology.
Oops, sorry:) looks like I missed the whole point of the question, hehe. Guess I just kind of faded into my own internal musings. I guess the best way to speed up Java would be the JIT, or Just In Time, compilers. The JVM, which gives Java its unique WORA advantage, is an unfortunately but neccessary abstraction in the language. Of course you won't be able compare it to C++ in speed/performance, unless that abstraction to the hardware was removed. The next version of gccwill include gcj, a native Java compiler, I believe.
Certainly Microsoft's implementation of Java is faster than most, but it's somewhat tied to Microsoft's own platforms. IBM's still comes out on top, and my personal second favourite is the Sun implementation, which, admittedly, I still use more than the IBM one in some cases.
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I'm not sure that reading the source code would help the chess player unless they also happened to be a programmer :-)
Although, I don't see why it should be neccessary in the first place... it's just a game, get a grip, folks.Yes, the humans involved should be allowed to rest, and in fact take as long as they want in pondering their moves against the computers. The computers obviously won't take long in deciding what moves they're going to play, but humans like to ponder.
Zope allows faster creation of dynamic sites and the ability to manage thousands of pages via user priveledges built into the Zope platform. ASP is ok for quick hacks (but not as good as Perl, PHP or Python), but for large sites, using raw web scripting can be time consuming. Zope allows scalability using the ZEO clustering, which basically takes a Zope Object from the Zope Object Database (built into the Zope Platform) and balances the requests over a cluster of Zope Servers using replication and synchronization...and maximum flexibility by being fully open source. Zope Methods can be written and the Zope platform can be extended using the amazing ZClasses API, one of the cleanest I've seen.
Eazel should Merge with Ximian and let Sun, HP, Red Hat, etc etc pay for them
Every ground pattern must be further encapsulated into a map entry, probably stored either in a hashtable or a db, when the load becomes to great for a normal memory mapping to effectively map to the physical display....this is a key stumbling block to GIS and GIS won't be able to go mainstream until it's overcome - people don't want to see slow, chunky terrain in polygons
Should unicorns be allowed to vote?
In a word, it's the application component architecture that's going to kill Microsoft...I only wish that KDE would adopt Bonobo.....that'll speed up adoption of Linux on the desktop by about 3 years.
Stroustrup himself has said in his retrospective book "The Design and Evolution of C++" (p. 207), "Within C++, there is a much smaller and cleaner language struggling to get out. Many hackers would now add 'Yes, and it's called Java'
That pretty much sums it up. C++ is an industry standard in much the same way that Windows 9X became the industry standard desktop. In some cases this is good, but in others it's not - one language cannot rule them all, however, one language can bind them - the ultimate glue component language, Python.Still, KDE is a nice system and may in fact be the desktop of choice to someone who prefers the draconian Windows-like feel, such as an Executive Business User.
KDE requires development to be done in C++...anyone can hack Gnome code in whatever language they want - Perl, Python, C, Java, you name it. I'd be surprised if a Gtk+ Bash binding doesn't come out soon.
Freedom is very important to GNU proponents and most Linux users, and Gnome is definitely a more extensible, free-thinking enviroment. Sure, some aspects of it are not at the level of their KDE counterparts yet, but in the end, Gnome has the right key ideal, freedom....And I'm not talking about GPL vs. Whatever, I realize that KDE is GPL'd and Qt is GPL'd for free apps...I'm talking about the spirit of freedom rather than the strict definition of freedom that using the GPL bestows upon software under its banner.
KDE's draconian development enviroment, user interface and application methodology are breaking the spirit of freedom by forcing users to do things THEIR WAY and THEIR WAY only. Yes it might be more stable, and faster, but it's definitely not as free - and that's as in the spirit of freedom, not true freedom itself. Both are important, though.Just the same, most animals don't actively think about why (or whom) they are fscking
Well, that has nothing to do with whether or not they enjoy it. Show me any mammal species that doesn't enjoy having an orgasm...I think Lizz is right, you're just trying to bamboozle yourself with human mysticism suggesting that humans having sex is something different from other species having sexAs Lizz said, turn your brain on once in a while:-P (Ok, just kidding there, but come on - can you honestly argue with biological logic for the sake of trying to put human sexuality on a pedestal for some unknown reason?)Wouldn't be a problem if Thawte Consulting hadn't have sold out to Verisign in '99.
Mozilla has been improving rapidly since M16 or so. I've been a Mozilla user since M13 and it seems to me, that the Mozilla development model benefits greatly from user feedback from the Talkback Builds. I reported bugs every time I encountered them, and I'm quite sure that if everyone who tried Mozilla did this, instead of just saying: "Ah well, this sucks...IE is so much better"...Mozilla would've reached the incredible stability it has now (0.8+) a lot sooner. Yes, Mozilla is stable, fast and pretty good at the moment. There are still bugs, but there are bugs with all browsers, including the touted IE. Noone's managed to crack my PC using a bug in Mozilla, Explorer.exe has never been crashed and caused a demanded reboot because Mozilla went down. So perhaps it's time to stop complaining, and start using and reporting bugs you find with Mozilla. It's GPL now, so the far-left GPL'ers have no excuse either. Support Free Software!
Why do they have to use C++ when C is faster, simpler, smaller, a UNIX standard, and generally better in every imaginable way?
One word: JavaHeh, no, I agree that only suX0rs use Java on their desktops, unless they are masochistic or insane or forced to for some reason. =P
Jedit is my main editor.noticed that my computer was only recognizing 64 MB
edit the fileI couldn't get ftpd working ever again
edit the fileAs for mpg123, I've hardly used it personally, and unfortunately I can't find any good MPG players for linux :-( even the "commercial" ones like mTV seem to perform terribly even when reniced to -19 !!!!
I think this is a huge stumbling block for linux acceptance, btw.
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I agree fully. The Internet needs to be accessible to the masses, and countries like Costa Rica implementing projects like this is a good sign that they "get it" with regard to Internet communications. In the future, people will rely heavily on information to get things done, speed of information will dictate the effectiveness of businesses and individuals.
However, the Internet in general is facing a problem: As a Slashdotter pointed out in the comments section of the story about the great Internet pioneer, Donald Davies, there are fewer and fewer people who understand Internet fundamentals fully. Yes, there are a few - great hackers, CCIE's, and old-timers. But new IT professionals walk in with their CS degree or MCSE and really don't know much. They probably couldn't even tell you what aMore CCIE's are the solution, some people would say, but the fact is that the CCIE qualification, while good, ties people down to one vendor - Cisco, which will create a kind of Microsoftian situation, except with networking equipment and protocols (ever hear of the Cisco Properietry protocols? Ayup.)
However, a solution to this problem is at hand. The GNU/Zebra. This is a robust routing daemon which is fully open sourced, released under the excellent GNU license. I can't remember the URL offhand, but there is a large project which aims to implement a CCIE-like course based on the product, and which also includes a lot of GNU/Linux material. The course will take the candidate through Linux basics, and then move on to Networking basics, and then advanced Networking (BGP, IGRP, OSPF, etc). They will then be taught how to apply these concepts with the GNU/Zebra. The reasoning behind this is that long after Cisco has died out, Zebra and Linux will live on, due to their open source nature. It's a common argument against all propreirty companies, and , I think, a valid one. Even if the company is huge, it might not survive in all sectors, and if it is a hegu one concetrating on one sector - it might go down completely with advances in technology and demand for flexible solutions that the company, no matter how big it was or how it tried to cover al l the bases, so to speak, failed to see and got left behind. This isn't unlikely to happen in the Networking arena, and Cisco is a prime target for the kind of failure described above.The ZIE (Zebra Internetworking Expert) course will also be amied at educating more people, even though it will be fairly expensive at first, it will be priced reasonably once it reaches a certain level of acceptance by the business community. Their will be 3 exams. 2 written, and one lab. The 2 written will consist of Linux basics and Networking, (which will include both Networking basics, in the Linux module, intermediate Networking and advanced Networking in the Networking module). In the lab, the candidates will be asked to simulate a real working eviroment and interface with other hardware and software, using the GNU/Zebra technology.
Availability: These exams will be available through various LUGs around the world, eventually. At first they will probably only be available through a few centers in major areas in the US and Europe.
Pricing: There are several factors in the price here, and although it will be more expensive overall than the CCIE at first, the prices will go down as the qualification gains acceptance by the business community and the availability goes up with the rise of Linux, Open Source, and cooperating from various LUGs and other Linux/Open Source organizations. The written exams will be around $250 each, with the lab exam costing $1,000. If the candidates fail their first time, they will be given a compensation period of 2 months in which they can rewrite the lab exam for $500. The most expensive part of the course will be travelling to Zimbabwe. It is neccessary for all candidates who have completed the lab and written exams to be initiated in Zimbabwe, where they will need to mate with a Zebra mare. At present, female candidates aren't provided for. This will change as the conditions above are fulfilled , though. The trip itself will cost $5,000, hotel accomodation included.It's the hope of the organizers of this qualification that it will encourage the use of non-propreitry solutions for networking in mainstream organizations, and promote the use of Open Source technology in general. It's believed by them that the Open Source methodology will not only lead to technical benefits, but will allow communications to go to the next level by bringing back the cooperation of old that started the internet and allowed it to grow, in short: the hacker and scientest and military cooperation of the 60s, 70s and 80s., without which such innovation would have been impossible. Thanks,
Charles Balthazar Rotherwood
Could this Sheep language be the replacement for C/C++ ?
Gah. Short sighted posts like this infuriate me.
It's an echo of what happened years ago: "Real Programmers don't use structured languages like C. Real Programmers use FORTRAN. If you can't do it in FORTRAN, do it in Assembly, if you can't do it in Assembly, it isn't worth doing. C is a cute toy language, but just no good for real world applications. The UNIX hackers who use it aren't sure wheter the print command is 'printf' or 'cout' this week, how is it ever going to manage to survive in the real world ??"Yeh. C forever. I don't know wheter or not Java will be the next-wave language, but saying that "C will never be replaced because there's nothing better" is just kind of moronic.
Let me apply this "burden" to the 'net: if you connect to the Internet and pass a virus (even unaware) your privileges to stay connected may be revoked or suspended. What?!? Well, you take on a lot of responsibility to connect to the rest of us. If you cannot take basic precautions to protect others from your transmissions then you are subject to loosing your right to be on the 'net. The onus is on you.
***Sigh***. You're so right. That's a logical deduction. However, what you aren't realizing here is that connecting to the 'Net can't be compared to, as you've done here, driving a car. The 'Net has become such a integral part of businesses worldwide, that it would just cost too much to start educating a semi-computer literate world in the way you're suggesting. Driving licenses are traditional, they've always been around. Internet security licenses? I don't think so. Connections to the Internet have grown exponentially since around 1994. It's only 2000 now, and *billions* of people are connected to the internet. You can't disconnect these people because they fail a Internet security test, because then you would be disconnecting way too many people. Remember, the average CEO of a company (Suit) isn't even semi-literate (computerwise), perhaps if it's a tech company, yes, otherwise, you'll be luckily if he's semiliterate.It's easy to post on Slashdot that this kind of thing should happen. The majority of Slashdot readers are tech savvy, and all of them could probably be considered more than semi-computer literate.
Finally, with 300+ million people connected to the Internet (approx), in most major countries around the world, how would you implement such a test? It would take years even if the bureacrats agreed.No, the only short-term solution is to inform your co-workers individually (ie, each person who has tech knowledge, inform your co-workers about the dangers of Outlook, Attachments, etc, and tell them the benefits of more secure software, and perhaps, if circumstances permit, more secure operating systems, like Linux or the ultra-stable Solaris Operating Enviroment
Of course, an excellent way to avoid this kind of thing from happening is to use more secure development/application deployment systems. The Java platform has been built by security conciousness engineers right from the start of the project. The Java platform has been tested by security consultants around the world and found to be very secure. Applications written for the Java platform are less likely to cause major damage to the host system due to key design features, such as memory protection. Even though the Java language is extremely networkable and can load Java classes over the internet dynamically, these will be run in protected memory spaces, and Java classes can be digitally signed, therefore enhancing security. Sure, the Java platform isn't 100% secure, but no platform is, and Java certainly is extremely secure compared to other platforms.Of course, UNIX platforms are inherently more secure than Win 9.X too, as they have similar per-user run spaces and permissions (and , of course, UNIX mail readers aren't designed as exploitably as Outlook!!).Cheers,
Charles Balthazar RotherwoodDarn, that link was correct, but there is a better link: Cygnus's page
I have to agree with you that using Transmeta's code-morphing technology and its ability to do software instruction set implementation could be a Big Thing for the robust Java platform. The question is, will a total Java chip include other instruction sets? Java's great, btu unless you had it co-processing with other , more traditional IS's, I don't know how much acceptance it would gain *outside* the staunch Java followers.
That said, it would be an enourmous speed advantage and potentially ground breaking technology.Literature on it:
here.Certainly Microsoft's implementation of Java is faster than most, but it's somewhat tied to Microsoft's own platforms. IBM's still comes out on top, and my personal second favourite is the Sun implementation, which, admittedly, I still use more than the IBM one in some cases.