Bad news: I'm pretty sure a faraday cage doesn't make you tempest proof. It will drain electric current (als in lightning etc), but it'll only decrease the intensity of EM radiation.
Actually, saving passwords does matter, even on a home systems. I seem to remember quite a few messages on bugtraq on different ways hostile activex/java/javascript could upload files to a server without you knowing about it....
Face it: This is the internet. There is very little law here, the evolutionary survival of the fittest and strongest has beeen converted into the survival of the people with the most knowledge. To be honest, I kind of like it that way. IMHO, just a hack shouldn't be a crime. Doing on purpose damage should be, and things like spamming, DoSing etc.... Though Calling it a crime won't work here of course, because/the law/ can't catch up. I think we'd better go for an RBL-ish structure. If an ISP doesn't fix it's holes and sue/kick offenders, it's traffic gets blackholed. As long a reasonable diversity in ISPs is maintained, this should work very well.
1) Location, Location, Location 2) No, they *shouldn't* go to prison. Some archaic (Is that how you spel that?) laws say they should go to prison, but that's something rather different.
Maybe this is a nice moment to plug a site I always visit after a browser upgrade: www.fortify.net. They're completely Open source, and it patches netscape to real encryption.
Personally I use mindterm, a java applet that works as a ssh terminal. It's great. Search for mindterm on altavista to find it's homepage. Or have a look at it on http://ion.ath.cx/ssh (Sorry, you can't even try to login at the moment because I'm in the middle of a big restructuring, and there's no sshd running...).
>Given that elisp only runs inside emacs, that's trivially true. I haven't seen a program using xlib that wasn't `just >meant' for extending the X Window System
True... But If you recall, this discussion started with the article claiming that emacs contained a compiler with which a lot of software was written.....
>In the _interesting_ sense, though, how do you claim that a mail reader, a news reader or a web browser are >extensions of a text editor?
I can just imagine it now... What OS do you run? Me? Emacs...
>I won't address your other comments about Lisp, as they're either flamebait or chronically ill-informed. If >anyone else is more interested in learning things than pissing on them (someone mentioned 'hackers'?) could do >worse than start at the ALU web pages I'll admit, I have very little experience with lisp, and definately not enough to properly compare it to other programming languages. This was not meant as a serious criticism of lisp. Note the lack of arguments and the smiley.
Nonetheless, I'd like to apologize to all the lisp fans out there who took it so seriously....
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Neither does a single flip-flop, but I still think I'll get more done on a p2 with linux :-)
You know the routine... M-x spook :-)
Bad news: I'm pretty sure a faraday cage doesn't make you tempest proof. It will drain electric current (als in lightning etc), but it'll only decrease the intensity of EM radiation.
>Yes it is. But we are Open source so we love EVERYBODY!!!!!:-)
That's where we get the interesting diseases from....
I completely agree, except for the fact that everything on this site can be found elsewhere. :-)
Where would I find such futile discussions?
IIRC, yahoo mail puts the senders ip in the headers. I suppose in that case that was the IP of a microsoft corporate firewall.
Actually, saving passwords does matter, even on a home systems. I seem to remember quite a few messages on bugtraq on different ways hostile activex/java/javascript could upload files to a server without you knowing about it....
Sell it to a geek! If you live in holland, feel free to mail me :-)
Actually, here in holland we have an ISP called world online.
You mean to say there is no annual internet cleaning and I went offline for nothing????
The window manager does NOT listen for connections in the X model.
Face it: This is the internet. There is very little law here, the evolutionary survival of the fittest and strongest has beeen converted into the survival of the people with the most knowledge. To be honest, I kind of like it that way. IMHO, just a hack shouldn't be a crime. Doing on purpose damage should be, and things like spamming, DoSing etc.... Though Calling it a crime won't work here of course, because /the law/ can't catch up. I think we'd better go for an RBL-ish structure. If an ISP doesn't fix it's holes and sue/kick offenders, it's traffic gets blackholed. As long a reasonable diversity in ISPs is maintained, this should work very well.
1) Location, Location, Location
2) No, they *shouldn't* go to prison. Some archaic (Is that how you spel that?) laws say they should go to prison, but that's something rather different.
How about a module that prevents the loading of other modules? That could act as a sort of stopper after all modules are loaded at boot.
Adelman IIRC
Maybe this is a nice moment to plug a site I always visit after a browser upgrade: www.fortify.net. They're completely Open source, and it patches netscape to real encryption.
Personally I use mindterm, a java applet that works as a ssh terminal. It's great. Search for mindterm on altavista to find it's homepage. Or have a look at it on http://ion.ath.cx/ssh (Sorry, you can't even try to login at the moment because I'm in the middle of a big restructuring, and there's no sshd running...).
You had fists? We had to Kick our heads with our feet. Young brats....
Well, to start with I'd expect slashes... :-)
>Given that elisp only runs inside emacs, that's trivially true. I haven't seen a program using xlib that wasn't `just
>meant' for extending the X Window System
True... But If you recall, this discussion started with the article claiming that emacs contained a compiler with which a lot of software was written.....
>In the _interesting_ sense, though, how do you claim that a mail reader, a news reader or a web browser are
>extensions of a text editor?
I can just imagine it now... What OS do you run? Me? Emacs...
>I won't address your other comments about Lisp, as they're either flamebait or chronically ill-informed. If
>anyone else is more interested in learning things than pissing on them (someone mentioned 'hackers'?) could do
>worse than start at the ALU web pages
I'll admit, I have very little experience with lisp, and definately not enough to properly compare it to other programming languages. This was not meant as a serious criticism of lisp. Note the lack of arguments and the smiley.
Nonetheless, I'd like to apologize to all the lisp fans out there who took it so seriously....
I never denied that there was lots of standalone software in lisp. I said there was no standalone software (AFAIK) in e-lisp.
The more you know, the more you forget. The more you forget, the less you know -> The more you know, the less you know... :-)
Thanks for the answer!
Quite probably
Or, in the actually world: It's behind a firewall.
Then again, NT==DOP (Denial of problem)