"The other day the U.S. Department of Agriculture cafeteria was shut down by the Washington, D.C. Department of Health for health code violations. That's right, the federal agency that oversees food safety, that inspects meat and poultry, couldn't keep the mouse droppings out of its own eatery! "
So to recap: Businesses-- must keep employees, shareholders and customers happy, or they go out of business. They make more money by keeping all three constituencies happy. Oh, and everyone who has a relationship with them does it consentually.
Government-- must keep people poor, uneducated and insecure in order to maintain power, thus the poorer a job they do, the more they can claim that its lack of funding and the higher the taxes they can raise without a revolution. Has disincentive to provide good service, and doesn't have to listen to complaints from users because they have no alternative. Everyone who has a relationship with them does so at a the poiint of a gun, and all revenue is collected via the application of violence.
Its not surprising socialists like yourself advocate the violence based solution over the free-choice free-market one.
Did you know there used to be many postal services in the US? The reason the government provides it is not because it was an essential service that was not being addressed-- but because it was a profitable service at that time, and the government wanted the money-- so they made it illegal to compete. Read the "No Treason" series of articles by one of the people who used to run a private postal service.
All services "provided" by government are low quality, and the are all provided at great expense- - where does the money go? Paper pusher's pockets.
You lack a basic understanding of economics, thus arguing with you is pointless.
I invite you to learn some economics, particluarly the broken window fallacy... as you are fond of it, you should know what it means.
The government's only purpose is to make money for the paper pushers-- just like the businesses. The difference is a business gets the money by providing a service... the government gets it at the point of a gun.
The only reason YOU support them is that one way or another you think you're profiting from taxation.
But you're not. As long as you're ignorant of economics, you'll continue to operate under that delusion, though. So get educated.
Your decent PC is nowhere neare the quality of even the eMac.
If you compare the price / performance you will find Macs are cheaper.
The ONLY people who think PCs are cheaper are either comparing fly-by-night no-brandname component PCs or think that MHz is a measure of the performance of the computer.
Thing is, you could buy a used Power Mac and upgrade it as you wish for less than the cost of an equivilent new PC.
There are almost no PC manufacturers that don't put out machines designed to die of power supply failure inside of 24 months, anymore. Dell certainly isnt' a quality manufacturer.
Both Liberals and Republicans regularly put forth laws to criminalize sexual contact of various types.
Since you brought up boyfriends, shouldn't you be locked up for putting the public at risk of HIV -- just like those iPod criminals are putting the public at risk of deafness????
The absurdity of this way of thinking knows no bounds...
Uh, is a basic understanding of electronics too much to ask for slashdot posters?
You have a larger magnet in a larger speaker, thus it takes more current to move it... the iPod maxes out at a given current, and thus the volume is less.
Just get some regular cover-the-ear headphones and compare them to the ipod buds and you'll see.
Hell, towns in Canada are left in dire straights because their doctors are leaving for the US-- they don't like the conditions in canada and can make more money here.
Why wait for 5 years for heart surgery when you can come to the US and get it? That's what canadians do.
Dunno what Britons do, but its not hard to find a plethora of examples of poor health care there.
Socialised medicine doesn't work. The US system is bad, but the UK and Canadian ones are terrible.
Every article there on anything remotely Mac has been biased.... Ars Technica is more anti-Mac than Slashdot is.
The "We're not biased" attitude (And tone of voice) should not fool anyone... after all, how many people here think CNN and Fox news are totally objective? (They're both biased, just in different ways.)
Ars Technica excells at selling FUD wrapped around plausible sounding and "technical" analysis. Its one of those things that unless you are proficient in the technical area you won't recognize to be FUD.... which is why they are so successful with the slashdot crowd (which doesn't seem to be very engineering oriented.)
Course, as with most people their definition of "biased" is "anything I don't agree with" (and so this article will likely be moderated troll).... but the reality is there is an objective reality.
Its just that if you're not proficient in the reality of the situation, its difficult to detect bias.
And if you confuse an objective tone for authortiative knowledge, you're open to easy manipulation.
OF course... let the people who use them pay for them.
If you support taxation, for roads, defense, medical care, why doesnt' the government ban private food production and make us all eat government food? Then they could insure that we get good food at a fair price! Wouldnt' that be nice?
Never mine the 100 million people or so who starved in the last 100 years when government did exactly that.
Oh, and where I live, we are in an urban area, but the fire department does not provide protection... its been this way for years, but the government is so incompetant they do nothing about it-- after all, its working just fine- they're getting all the loot they want.
You're getting less than %5 of the value of the money you pay in taxation--- taxation is just theft. Pure and simple.
I'm all for hearing from people who disagree with me-- I'm happy to wade thru piles and piles of crap from people who disagree to get to the few who have good points and the chance to sway my mind....
But I don't participate in slashdot much anymore because the moderation is so overburdensome.... it completely distorts and shuts down anyone who doesn't follow the political correct way of thinking, and by doing so, stifles debate as most people never see the posts from people who think different.
Unfortunatel,y I don't think metamoderation does anything... since even the troll moderators will sometimes correctly moderate someting as insightful... thus I only metamoderate people who moderate offtopic or flamebait-- and I almost ALWAYS mark those as incorrectly moderated-- because very few of them really are offtopic or flamebait.
It prevents people from selling software that links against libraries that are GPLed.
That it does so is the whole fucking topic of this thread, you idiot. The GPL IS written such that you must release all code into the public domain (eg: under GPL)
So, why is it you guys feel the need to lie about what the GPL says? ITs easy for anyone to read it... and you're not fooling anyone.
I made an argument. All you did was wave your hands and reference a logical fallacy that does not apply. Not only did you fail to address my argument, you misrepresented it in order to knock it down.
I suggest you read up a bit on this. I would start with Atlas Shrugged. When you've read that, you'll understand.
IF you want to make a counter argument, feel free to do so. But you have not done so. The logic in my argument still stands.
Macs have been a better deal pricewise than PCs since 1995.
Its time to stop modding up "insightful" every troll who comes along and whines about Macs being "expensive". IT just isn't true, and its a sure sign the person has never used a Mac.
And the point to Darwin, since you're ignorant of what it is, is that it has Apples new IO system, IOKit, and quite a variety of other stuff that is Apple written, and does not exist in BSD or Linux OSes (unless its migrated there.)
There's more to OSX than "eye candy".... if you were a Mac developer as you claim, you'd know that.
Ah yes, socialism has enslaved everybody, therefore everybody must be futher enslaved by socialism!
Talk about a self fulfilling prophecy! And it was modded 5 Insightful?
How about this-- you let the Taxpayers keep their money nad pay for their own health care.
IF you did that, then the poorest would actually get health care for a change!
Most of the money that is claimed to be used to help people is stolen, wasted, or destroyed.
That you want to force me to listen to only music you approve of-- excuse me, only music volumes (for now) you approve of-- just goes to show how ready you are to give up your individuality.
Next you'll be telling us that even with our hobbled stereos, we shouldnt' be listening to rock and roll cause Taxpayers will have to pay for the hearing aids!
I can't believe slashdotters are so anti-individualistic.
Ah, because you were a fool when you were young you presume everyone else is, and therefore want to force them to live the way YOU think they should.
You probably support taxation too, eh? (Didja know only %7 of the US Welfare budget is sent out in welfare checks?)
The loudness of any system with external speakers is going to be based on the speakers.
Your idea that we all should have to live based on what YOU think is safe is just like conservatives trying to legislate morality.
Well, piss off. I'm not a number, I'm a free man, and I'm going to listen to my iPod with it cranked all the way up.
And all your admonishments that hearing loss will result is exactoly as relevant as christians telling me I'll burn in hell. Frankly, they don't know morality and you don't know physics. (The larger the driver, the lower the volume for a given amount of current, duh.)
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Of course there is-- a given mac will outperform PCs costing up to %50 more.
Except, of course, the government has banned it.
Government is a disease, masquarading as its own cure.
Here's a great example of government "service":
"The other day the U.S. Department of Agriculture cafeteria was shut down by the Washington, D.C. Department of Health for health code violations. That's right, the federal agency that oversees food safety, that inspects meat and poultry, couldn't keep the mouse droppings out of its own eatery! "
So to recap: Businesses-- must keep employees, shareholders and customers happy, or they go out of business. They make more money by keeping all three constituencies happy. Oh, and everyone who has a relationship with them does it consentually.
Government-- must keep people poor, uneducated and insecure in order to maintain power, thus the poorer a job they do, the more they can claim that its lack of funding and the higher the taxes they can raise without a revolution. Has disincentive to provide good service, and doesn't have to listen to complaints from users because they have no alternative. Everyone who has a relationship with them does so at a the poiint of a gun, and all revenue is collected via the application of violence.
Its not surprising socialists like yourself advocate the violence based solution over the free-choice free-market one.
Did you know there used to be many postal services in the US? The reason the government provides it is not because it was an essential service that was not being addressed-- but because it was a profitable service at that time, and the government wanted the money-- so they made it illegal to compete. Read the "No Treason" series of articles by one of the people who used to run a private postal service.
All services "provided" by government are low quality, and the are all provided at great expense- - where does the money go? Paper pusher's pockets.
I'm a moron because I believe in science? Oh no, because I disagree with you!
You who can't even be bothered to post non-anonymously....
You guys are so republican in your desire to get the government to clamp down on the possibility that someone, somewhere might be having fun!
Imagine the cops pulling guns on some guy with an iPod, demanding he turn the music down.
That's your idea of "justice"-- violence to achieve your petty little desires for how OTHER PEOPLE should live.
I you were a person of ability, you wouldn't have this insecurity.
Sure are a lot of words there just to re-assert your same old assertions and to ignore the entirety of my argument.
But then, that's not surprising, when you have no argumetn that you'd engage in hand waving.
My hearing is quite fine, and I've been listening to loud music for about 20 years.
You lack a basic understanding of economics, thus arguing with you is pointless.
I invite you to learn some economics, particluarly the broken window fallacy... as you are fond of it, you should know what it means.
The government's only purpose is to make money for the paper pushers-- just like the businesses. The difference is a business gets the money by providing a service... the government gets it at the point of a gun.
The only reason YOU support them is that one way or another you think you're profiting from taxation.
But you're not. As long as you're ignorant of economics, you'll continue to operate under that delusion, though. So get educated.
No, that's why you're lying.
Course, its not uncommon for slashdot posters to be unable to discern the difference between clockrate and performance.
Your decent PC is nowhere neare the quality of even the eMac.
If you compare the price / performance you will find Macs are cheaper.
The ONLY people who think PCs are cheaper are either comparing fly-by-night no-brandname component PCs or think that MHz is a measure of the performance of the computer.
Thing is, you could buy a used Power Mac and upgrade it as you wish for less than the cost of an equivilent new PC.
There are almost no PC manufacturers that don't put out machines designed to die of power supply failure inside of 24 months, anymore. Dell certainly isnt' a quality manufacturer.
Both Liberals and Republicans regularly put forth laws to criminalize sexual contact of various types.
Since you brought up boyfriends, shouldn't you be locked up for putting the public at risk of HIV -- just like those iPod criminals are putting the public at risk of deafness????
The absurdity of this way of thinking knows no bounds...
Uh, is a basic understanding of electronics too much to ask for slashdot posters?
You have a larger magnet in a larger speaker, thus it takes more current to move it... the iPod maxes out at a given current, and thus the volume is less.
Just get some regular cover-the-ear headphones and compare them to the ipod buds and you'll see.
Not according to my UK friends.
Hell, towns in Canada are left in dire straights because their doctors are leaving for the US-- they don't like the conditions in canada and can make more money here.
Why wait for 5 years for heart surgery when you can come to the US and get it? That's what canadians do.
Dunno what Britons do, but its not hard to find a plethora of examples of poor health care there.
Socialised medicine doesn't work. The US system is bad, but the UK and Canadian ones are terrible.
If you didn't buy cheap ass POS PCs in the first place you wouldn't be worried about memory failures....
Every article there on anything remotely Mac has been biased.... Ars Technica is more anti-Mac than Slashdot is.
The "We're not biased" attitude (And tone of voice) should not fool anyone... after all, how many people here think CNN and Fox news are totally objective? (They're both biased, just in different ways.)
Ars Technica excells at selling FUD wrapped around plausible sounding and "technical" analysis. Its one of those things that unless you are proficient in the technical area you won't recognize to be FUD.... which is why they are so successful with the slashdot crowd (which doesn't seem to be very engineering oriented.)
Course, as with most people their definition of "biased" is "anything I don't agree with" (and so this article will likely be moderated troll).... but the reality is there is an objective reality.
Its just that if you're not proficient in the reality of the situation, its difficult to detect bias.
And if you confuse an objective tone for authortiative knowledge, you're open to easy manipulation.
On the contrary, I know far more about it than you apparently do.
Used to be, when this was a free country, people walking around trying to force others to live the way they want would be shot on sight.
Now you think not only should you be allowed to, but that its morally justified!
The other poster is right-- you're advocating socialism-- the system that killed 100 million people between 1900 and 2000.
Killed them for their own good, and the good of society, you say.
Death to tyrants!
OF course... let the people who use them pay for them.
If you support taxation, for roads, defense, medical care, why doesnt' the government ban private food production and make us all eat government food? Then they could insure that we get good food at a fair price! Wouldnt' that be nice?
Never mine the 100 million people or so who starved in the last 100 years when government did exactly that.
Oh, and where I live, we are in an urban area, but the fire department does not provide protection... its been this way for years, but the government is so incompetant they do nothing about it-- after all, its working just fine- they're getting all the loot they want.
You're getting less than %5 of the value of the money you pay in taxation--- taxation is just theft. Pure and simple.
Great... glad to see I'm not the only one.
I'm all for hearing from people who disagree with me-- I'm happy to wade thru piles and piles of crap from people who disagree to get to the few who have good points and the chance to sway my mind....
But I don't participate in slashdot much anymore because the moderation is so overburdensome.... it completely distorts and shuts down anyone who doesn't follow the political correct way of thinking, and by doing so, stifles debate as most people never see the posts from people who think different.
Unfortunatel,y I don't think metamoderation does anything... since even the troll moderators will sometimes correctly moderate someting as insightful... thus I only metamoderate people who moderate offtopic or flamebait-- and I almost ALWAYS mark those as incorrectly moderated-- because very few of them really are offtopic or flamebait.
And Overrated is ALWAYS wrong.
You really should read the GPL sometime.
It prevents people from selling software that links against libraries that are GPLed.
That it does so is the whole fucking topic of this thread, you idiot. The GPL IS written such that you must release all code into the public domain (eg: under GPL)
So, why is it you guys feel the need to lie about what the GPL says? ITs easy for anyone to read it... and you're not fooling anyone.
Strawman.
I made an argument. All you did was wave your hands and reference a logical fallacy that does not apply. Not only did you fail to address my argument, you misrepresented it in order to knock it down.
I suggest you read up a bit on this. I would start with Atlas Shrugged. When you've read that, you'll understand.
IF you want to make a counter argument, feel free to do so. But you have not done so. The logic in my argument still stands.
Obviously, you're wrong. I've pointed it out many time,s nad in fact the topic of this thread is proof that you're wrong.
The GPL is a problem because it tries to force you to open source code that has nothing to do with the GPLed code, merely by linking to it.
Macs have been a better deal pricewise than PCs since 1995.
Its time to stop modding up "insightful" every troll who comes along and whines about Macs being "expensive". IT just isn't true, and its a sure sign the person has never used a Mac.
And the point to Darwin, since you're ignorant of what it is, is that it has Apples new IO system, IOKit, and quite a variety of other stuff that is Apple written, and does not exist in BSD or Linux OSes (unless its migrated there.)
There's more to OSX than "eye candy".... if you were a Mac developer as you claim, you'd know that.
Uh, no. GNU Darwin is NOT totally GPL.
In fact, its no more GPL than Mac OS X-- that is the operating system is released by apple under an Open Source license.
The tools and all that other stuff- that you get with Mac OS X and Linux and BSD et al, are GPL, just as they are on other OSes that ship with them.
Mod the parent down-- its informative but its wrong.
GNU didn't GPL the Apple kernel and Darwin sources! They can't.
GNU is too restrictive to be fairly called "Free".
The terms are reversed-- the Open Source license determines free software. While GNU is merely "open source".
Ah yes, socialism has enslaved everybody, therefore everybody must be futher enslaved by socialism!
Talk about a self fulfilling prophecy! And it was modded 5 Insightful?
How about this-- you let the Taxpayers keep their money nad pay for their own health care.
IF you did that, then the poorest would actually get health care for a change!
Most of the money that is claimed to be used to help people is stolen, wasted, or destroyed.
That you want to force me to listen to only music you approve of-- excuse me, only music volumes (for now) you approve of-- just goes to show how ready you are to give up your individuality.
Next you'll be telling us that even with our hobbled stereos, we shouldnt' be listening to rock and roll cause Taxpayers will have to pay for the hearing aids!
I can't believe slashdotters are so anti-individualistic.
We need a special tax on Anonymous Cowards to pay for the hearing aids.
(Seriously-- you cannot concieve of the idea that people should be allowed to make their own decisions? Very sad.)
Ah, because you were a fool when you were young you presume everyone else is, and therefore want to force them to live the way YOU think they should.
You probably support taxation too, eh? (Didja know only %7 of the US Welfare budget is sent out in welfare checks?)
The loudness of any system with external speakers is going to be based on the speakers.
Your idea that we all should have to live based on what YOU think is safe is just like conservatives trying to legislate morality.
Well, piss off. I'm not a number, I'm a free man, and I'm going to listen to my iPod with it cranked all the way up.
And all your admonishments that hearing loss will result is exactoly as relevant as christians telling me I'll burn in hell. Frankly, they don't know morality and you don't know physics. (The larger the driver, the lower the volume for a given amount of current, duh.)