I'm speaking from a less north american centric or developed country centric perspective.
If that's the case, I _really_ think you're wrong.
I live in a 3rd world country and weighed my wife's reactions in my response. I've also seen Internet Cafes in the jungle filled with children playing online (and console) video games.
The FSF is not a neutral friend of the Court. Rather, FSF is an organization dedicated to eliminating restrictions on copying, redistribution, and modifying computer programs, classic intellectual property, much like the sound recordings at issue in this case. See http://ww.fsf.org./
To that end, FSF opposes the recording industry's enforcement efforts.
That couldn't be further from the truth. We, the supporters of the GPL, want OUR OWN works to be freely redistributable, and when changes are made, to have those changes returned to the community. OUR OWN WORK! WE DO NOT STEAL! Sorry for shouting.
Slashdot has a critical mass in its community, so it is still the best of its kind despite being run badly.
If it was being run that badly it wouldn't have user ids over 1.5M and it wouldn't have old-timers reading and posting. I'm usually entertained, sometimes informed and have encountered many worthwhile people over the years. Works for me.
Right now, I don't see *any* articles on the front page "edited" by kdawson and that means Slashdot is getting better. Your mileage may vary.
Wikipedia has a special section called, 'Language Philosophy,' in every article for a programming language.
Is it even possible to make a less significant statement?
You must be new here.
A goatse link. I, for one, welcome our Philosophic Programming Overlords.
To name three.
The article wasn't factually correct. This
Java was the first strongly-typed language, in which everything must have a type (or share a Form) before it is being used
isn't even close. Sigh. By that definition FORTRAN counts. Every variable DOES have a type "before being used". It's a floating point type if the variable name starts with A-H, O-Z and integer otherwise. Perhaps the author is confused about static typing. In which case he's still off by a couple of decades on which was language was first to be "strongly-typed". If you want to restrict it to widely used languages, Ada or Pascal (which was never meant to be anything other than an academic teaching language) would qualify. Fringe languages that influenced Ada like Modula and Modula II are possible too.
Actually, the only untyped language I'm aware of is "B", which used a machine word as its basic "type". Maybe BCPL counts too, but other than reading that it as an ancestor to C, I don't know much else about it.
But I think it will take a leap forward in culture and technology before eSports takes off (a generation or so) when gaming is seen as something normal that most everybody does,
Why a generation or so? In my age bracket (40-50), the oddball is someone who does not play computer games of some sort.
The "problem" (as I see it) is the medium. How much has baseball (for example) changed in the last 50 years? Only a tiny handful of outdoor sports have gained enough popularity over the centuries to become viable professional sports.
The closest thing to a timeless computer game I've encountered is Rogue/Nethack. It is boring as hell to watch someone else play. As much I like World of Warcraft, there is no way I would pay to watch someone play it and all of the videos (with maybe one exception[1]) are fairly tedious to watch.
Your other comments are pretty much spot-on, this one, I think, is off.
[1] The video of the dwarf knocking people off a bridge in a battleground with hard packed snowballs was funny, but not sport.
Frankly, I've never seen the attraction of Microsoft Windows as a Desktop OS. I find its UI confusing (and often infuriating) to no end and the lack of virtual desktops extremely limiting.
Oh and rebooting a computer seriously cramps my working style. The janitorial staff in my office workplace are not allowed to touch things on desks and neither should an O/S be allowed to touch things (by virtue of needing a reboot or crashing) on my virtual desktops. My ancient HP workstation has never crashed running Linux and neither has my Lenovo T60 (after it was running Linux, it constantly crashed or needed rebooting when it was running Microsoft Windows XP, at least a couple of times a week or so).
So let's see: A UI geared around a single app on the screen resized to fit the full screen at a time. Check, I had that on the AT&T Unix PC in 1987.
An unfamiliar and confusing interface and non-customizable. Check.
Slow. Check.
Unstable O/S. Check. I've had 6 month+ uptimes on desktop (Unix) systems for almost 3 decades.
What's not to like about Microsoft Windows?
Of course I'm the kind of guy who called his boss up after reading a 3rd party email message saying that he was having problems with his Microsoft Outlike program to laugh at him. Did that yesterday as a matter of fact.
can you explain to me why someone with a UID in the 500k range would not understand how to reply to a quote properly?
He must be new here and this whole subthread is all wrong. Commercial Unix is a misnomer, but certainly Apple's OS X and any other derivative of BSD or Linux need not apply.
Solaris is directly descended from AT&T Unix, all of the others are not (no matter how much the trolls like SCO, et al want to proclaim).
"What are we supposed to do?" I asked Keith Nahigian, the advance man who had prepared this little photo op," Quayle wrote.
"Just sit there and read these words off some flash cards, and the kids will go up and spell them at the blackboard," the handler told the VP.... Quayle looked at the blackboard, then at his contest card, and gently and quietly told the boy, "Youâ(TM)re close, but you left a little something off. The e on the end.
(That's the same source wikipedia cites and matches my own memory of the incident).
Besides, just because Obama can be stupid doesn't mean we should forget about when others were stupid.
True, but fair is fair. Obama is stupid enough to repeat anything he reads off a teleprompter and that puts him squarely in the mental category of a Dan Quayle. In fairness to Quayle, "potatoe" is an obsolete spelling and is not quite in the same category as congratulating yourself on hosting a party.
"Be Compatible: The application to which you provide a link must run on Windows Server 2003, Windows Server 2008, Windows XP & Windows Vista using best practices on running ASP.NET applications and PHP applications on IIS."
Emacs can get hung opening a large.cpp file if the macros confuse the parser used by the syntax highlighter. Why isn't that done in a separate thread so I can make my changes and close the file while the syntax highlighter flails in the background?
Sigh. You're not the first person who has asked that question. Short answer: emacs was just never designed with multithreading in mind.
It took years of coding (and even worse, years of debugging) to convert the internals to support multibyte characters. For whatever it's worth, that's an easier job than converting the guts into something thread safe.
Realistically, it's just not going to be done. We looked seriously at that in XEmacs a decade ago (also with a mind to replace the custom emacs lisp engine with a thread safe Scheme Lisp engine, or some such) and came to the conclusion that a total rewrite was in order *and* we would lose compatibility with emacs lisp. Not an option.
It's sad. Emacs (like the language it is mostly written in) is something that has withstood the test of time - in the realm of ideas. The architecture on the outside, Lisp as implementation and extension language, modular additions easy, etc. is as good as it gets. Once you get under the hood a different story emerges.
If I sound defensive, well, guilty. I wish I could give you a better answer.
As to your font-locking issue, have you looked at (my personal favorite) fast-lock, or lazy-lock? fast-lock using caching to speed up initial font-locking, lazy-lock does font-locking on demand as different parts of the buffer become visible.
They ARE my cup of tea, though I have a tendency to get bored with them after awhile. Turn-based strategy games are very cool while you're learning the game, but grinding turn-based games... I'll give this one a shot and hope for the best.
He's not defending the use of "M$" in place of "Microsoft;" he's saying it doesn't affect the validity of the argument. It's not even about "M$" in particular, but about people refusing to use their brains whenever they encounter presentation they don't like.
That's a fine thing to say Mr. Anonymous Coward. If you _really_ believe that, you could at least have taken the time to log in and attach a name to those words.
Name calling (and ad hominem attacks in general) are indicative to me of being part of a weak argument. I do not think I've ever seen an argument strengthened by usage of such. I've followed 'net discussions in various settings for over 20 years and US (first, Asian later) politics for much longer than that. Sociology is fascinating.
Perhaps I am just disgusted with "The Politics of Personal Destruction", a phrase popularized by the man who brought its application to a high art form.
Now, pop quiz, do the first two sentences in this response make me look good and strengthen what I have to say, or weaken it? (Actually I'm hoping someone will flame me over that before reading the rest of the post, thus making my point).
It'd be like someone saying, "That mathematical proof must be invalid because it's printed in an ugly font."
It's more along the lines of 99.9% of erroneous mathematical proofs use that font and unless I see something obviously interesting and very quickly, I'm going to ignore it. Guilt by association.
Slashdot Mirror
Are you sure? Data was recovered off a disk inside Columbia when it went into the great bit bucket in the sky. http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/07/1834224
Jack Thompson was disbarred last year in Florida, putting a halt to annoying lawsuits
The spelling and grammar nazi side of me says "putting" is something you do on a golf green. The rest of me says, "w00t!".
I'm speaking from a less north american centric or developed country centric perspective.
If that's the case, I _really_ think you're wrong.
I live in a 3rd world country and weighed my wife's reactions in my response. I've also seen Internet Cafes in the jungle filled with children playing online (and console) video games.
Gaming is ubiquitous, even in the 3rd world.
The FSF is not a neutral friend of the Court. Rather, FSF is an organization dedicated to eliminating restrictions on copying, redistribution, and modifying computer programs, classic intellectual property, much like the sound recordings at issue in this case. See http://ww.fsf.org./
To that end, FSF opposes the recording industry's enforcement efforts.
That couldn't be further from the truth. We, the supporters of the GPL, want OUR OWN works to be freely redistributable, and when changes are made, to have those changes returned to the community. OUR OWN WORK! WE DO NOT STEAL! Sorry for shouting.
I do not speak for the FSF.
Hacker.
Slashdot has a critical mass in its community, so it is still the best of its kind despite being run badly.
If it was being run that badly it wouldn't have user ids over 1.5M and it wouldn't have old-timers reading and posting. I'm usually entertained, sometimes informed and have encountered many worthwhile people over the years. Works for me.
Right now, I don't see *any* articles on the front page "edited" by kdawson and that means Slashdot is getting better. Your mileage may vary.
Wikipedia has a special section called, 'Language Philosophy,' in every article for a programming language.
Is it even possible to make a less significant statement?
You must be new here.
A goatse link.
I, for one, welcome our Philosophic Programming Overlords.
To name three.
The article wasn't factually correct. This
Java was the first strongly-typed language, in which everything must have a type (or share a Form) before it is being used
isn't even close. Sigh. By that definition FORTRAN counts. Every variable DOES have a type "before being used". It's a floating point type if the variable name starts with A-H, O-Z and integer otherwise. Perhaps the author is confused about static typing. In which case he's still off by a couple of decades on which was language was first to be "strongly-typed". If you want to restrict it to widely used languages, Ada or Pascal (which was never meant to be anything other than an academic teaching language) would qualify. Fringe languages that influenced Ada like Modula and Modula II are possible too.
Actually, the only untyped language I'm aware of is "B", which used a machine word as its basic "type". Maybe BCPL counts too, but other than reading that it as an ancestor to C, I don't know much else about it.
Not only the pricing, but this part is intriguing too:
Outlook protection rules
Automatically triggers Outlook to apply an RMS template to a message before it is sent
I suppose that means that a GPL V3 notice is attached whenever it notices that a user is attempting to email source code.
Take that! you GNU/Linux weenies!
But I think it will take a leap forward in culture and technology before eSports takes off (a generation or so) when gaming is seen as something normal that most everybody does,
Why a generation or so? In my age bracket (40-50), the oddball is someone who does not play computer games of some sort.
The "problem" (as I see it) is the medium. How much has baseball (for example) changed in the last 50 years? Only a tiny handful of outdoor sports have gained enough popularity over the centuries to become viable professional sports.
The closest thing to a timeless computer game I've encountered is Rogue/Nethack. It is boring as hell to watch someone else play. As much I like World of Warcraft, there is no way I would pay to watch someone play it and all of the videos (with maybe one exception[1]) are fairly tedious to watch.
Your other comments are pretty much spot-on, this one, I think, is off.
[1] The video of the dwarf knocking people off a bridge in a battleground with hard packed snowballs was funny, but not sport.
Go ahead and mod me down. This is hilarious.
Linux is faster on the same hardware.
Frankly, I've never seen the attraction of Microsoft Windows as a Desktop OS. I find its UI confusing (and often infuriating) to no end and the lack of virtual desktops extremely limiting.
Oh and rebooting a computer seriously cramps my working style. The janitorial staff in my office workplace are not allowed to touch things on desks and neither should an O/S be allowed to touch things (by virtue of needing a reboot or crashing) on my virtual desktops. My ancient HP workstation has never crashed running Linux and neither has my Lenovo T60 (after it was running Linux, it constantly crashed or needed rebooting when it was running Microsoft Windows XP, at least a couple of times a week or so).
So let's see:
A UI geared around a single app on the screen resized to fit the full screen at a time. Check, I had that on the AT&T Unix PC in 1987.
An unfamiliar and confusing interface and non-customizable. Check.
Slow. Check.
Unstable O/S. Check. I've had 6 month+ uptimes on desktop (Unix) systems for almost 3 decades.
What's not to like about Microsoft Windows?
Of course I'm the kind of guy who called his boss up after reading a 3rd party email message saying that he was having problems with his Microsoft Outlike program to laugh at him. Did that yesterday as a matter of fact.
can you explain to me why someone with a UID in the 500k range would not understand how to reply to a quote properly?
He must be new here and this whole subthread is all wrong. Commercial Unix is a misnomer, but certainly Apple's OS X and any other derivative of BSD or Linux need not apply.
Solaris is directly descended from AT&T Unix, all of the others are not (no matter how much the trolls like SCO, et al want to proclaim).
History has shown that private forks of open source software generally don't work.
IOS, Darwin. QED
I honestly don't think this technology is too far off however.
I'd recommend demanding a refund of your tuition. This technology has been around for at least 30 years.
(Interesting that the first link I found points back here ...)
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8841&cid=625169
Sage/Stride made nice machines. I never got around to playing with The Nod.
Its JUST NO CHALLENGE IF YOU HIGHLIGHT THE MISTAKE.
Nope.
Make the grammar police work a bit harder next time.
We spelling and grammar police always get our man.
I like the system, though being in the 5 UID club makes me feel inferior!
Meh.
I hope this sticks around after the 1st.
One of the things I like best about WoW achievements are the titles. You could probably do the same thing here:
"The Explorer" - Post a comment to every category type on the site.
"Twitter" - Reply to yourself from at least 5 different accounts in the same comment thread.
etc. etc.
Quayle was watching children write on a chalk board. What flashcard was he looking at?
http://www.capitalcentury.com/1992.html
"What are we supposed to do?" I asked Keith Nahigian, the advance man who had prepared this little photo op," Quayle wrote.
"Just sit there and read these words off some flash cards, and the kids will go up and spell them at the blackboard," the handler told the VP. ...
Quayle looked at the blackboard, then at his contest card, and gently and quietly told the boy, "Youâ(TM)re close, but you left a little something off. The e on the end.
(That's the same source wikipedia cites and matches my own memory of the incident).
Besides, just because Obama can be stupid doesn't mean we should forget about when others were stupid.
True, but fair is fair. Obama is stupid enough to repeat anything he reads off a teleprompter and that puts him squarely in the mental category of a Dan Quayle. In fairness to Quayle, "potatoe" is an obsolete spelling and is not quite in the same category as congratulating yourself on hosting a party.
"Stand up, Chuck. So everyone can see you!"
and charge how every many trillions of US deficit in bad derivatives for every license.
"Be Compatible: The application to which you provide a link must run on Windows Server 2003, Windows Server 2008, Windows XP & Windows Vista using best practices on running ASP.NET applications and PHP applications on IIS."
Heh heh heh heh, heh heh heh heh.
Well, whatever. It's all Microsoft Windows to me.
But, Vice-President Quayle, what about Potatoes?
Quayle read that off a flash card. Obama congratulated himself for hosting a party read off a teleprompter. Same thing.
It's the applications that drop the ball.
Agreed.
Emacs can get hung opening a large .cpp file if the macros confuse the parser used by the syntax highlighter. Why isn't that done in a separate thread so I can make my changes and close the file while the syntax highlighter flails in the background?
Sigh. You're not the first person who has asked that question. Short answer: emacs was just never designed with multithreading in mind.
It took years of coding (and even worse, years of debugging) to convert the internals to support multibyte characters. For whatever it's worth, that's an easier job than converting the guts into something thread safe.
Realistically, it's just not going to be done. We looked seriously at that in XEmacs a decade ago (also with a mind to replace the custom emacs lisp engine with a thread safe Scheme Lisp engine, or some such) and came to the conclusion that a total rewrite was in order *and* we would lose compatibility with emacs lisp. Not an option.
It's sad. Emacs (like the language it is mostly written in) is something that has withstood the test of time - in the realm of ideas. The architecture on the outside, Lisp as implementation and extension language, modular additions easy, etc. is as good as it gets. Once you get under the hood a different story emerges.
If I sound defensive, well, guilty. I wish I could give you a better answer.
As to your font-locking issue, have you looked at (my personal favorite) fast-lock, or lazy-lock? fast-lock using caching to speed up initial font-locking, lazy-lock does font-locking on demand as different parts of the buffer become visible.
Cisco: Absolutely huge campus (headquarters) in San Jose/Milpitas, in the Silicon Valley
Much of the upper management is in RTP. Much development is in the process of moving to Bangalore.
California is in a death spiral and has been since the days of Jerry & Linda.
Turn-based strategy really isn't my cup of tea
They ARE my cup of tea, though I have a tendency to get bored with them after awhile. Turn-based strategy games are very cool while you're learning the game, but grinding turn-based games ... I'll give this one a shot and hope for the best.
A huge THANK YOU for all the people who did this.
He's not defending the use of "M$" in place of "Microsoft;" he's saying it doesn't affect the validity of the argument. It's not even about "M$" in particular, but about people refusing to use their brains whenever they encounter presentation they don't like.
That's a fine thing to say Mr. Anonymous Coward. If you _really_ believe that, you could at least have taken the time to log in and attach a name to those words.
Name calling (and ad hominem attacks in general) are indicative to me of being part of a weak argument. I do not think I've ever seen an argument strengthened by usage of such. I've followed 'net discussions in various settings for over 20 years and US (first, Asian later) politics for much longer than that. Sociology is fascinating.
Perhaps I am just disgusted with "The Politics of Personal Destruction", a phrase popularized by the man who brought its application to a high art form.
Now, pop quiz, do the first two sentences in this response make me look good and strengthen what I have to say, or weaken it? (Actually I'm hoping someone will flame me over that before reading the rest of the post, thus making my point).
It'd be like someone saying, "That mathematical proof must be invalid because it's printed in an ugly font."
It's more along the lines of 99.9% of erroneous mathematical proofs use that font and unless I see something obviously interesting and very quickly, I'm going to ignore it. Guilt by association.
That's not a bad analogy. The only part you really got wrong was at the end:
we just keep driving our old-fashioned cars at normal speeds while adding lanes to the roads.
That's adding bandwidth at its purest definition.
+1 great car analogy.