I don't know. Everything that cuts CO2 emissions also have huge positive side benefits too. Cleaner air, better fuels, more efficient cars, cheaper power...
I mean, I'm kind of used to driving into LA and being able to see the Hollywood sign from much further away than 15 years ago or so, and I kind of like it.
I noticed you did not respond to me calling you out on the "but he is cheating during our online game" defense for elimination of property ownership rights and abuses of current copyright law........:)
Because I was busy at work, and I had a few minutes while I was waiting for mysqldump to do it's thing. Your entire thesis that this is eroding our freedoms and liberties is nonsense. Ironically(or not), my PS3 has to update to 3.55 so I can play GT5(which has to upgrade to 1.03), so I've got a few minutes.
Sony does not have to break my door down. They have jack booted thugs in the government to do that for them. Or did you forget about the court case (thrown out thank god) against the guy who was putting in mod chips into XBOX360s?
Yes, because he was selling things that allowed people to copy games. that's why the pursued the case. However, the case was sloppily put together, the evidence they gathered violated state and local laws, not to mention improperly collecting evidence in general. Did you even read the story or did you see, "Xbox modder set free" and start masturbating yourself into a frenzy of a lolbertarian nonsensical frenzy in joy of taking down the evil man?
Guess what? Manufacturers that don't even have media on their devices are attempting to use copyright, and the DMCA, to make it illegal to change out their firmware. So we are not even talking about bypassing a DRM system. Just loading a different firmware is to be protected under the same guise.
What the fuck does this even mean? Of course they don't. it's a fucking disc that can be read and copied. The real threat is making the damn thing run. Sony has learned it's lesson(judging by the drive flashing schemes for the 360, Microsoft clearly fucking hasn't) and tightened down the OS.
You may, or may not remember that. That court case was essentially lost too and a special exception was given as long the "hack" was for the purposes of unlocking your phone. Progress I guess... You may have been ranting about those fucking cheaters while this happened.
So you are wrong about that too. They are doing their damnedest to break down people's doors.
Again, what the hell does this nonsense even mean? The DMCA exception for jailbreaking wasn't connected to a court case, it was an edict by the library of congress, who's in charge of the finer points of copyright, that lifted the "ban" on jailbreaking your phone. Which I agree with. You're either a clever troll or so deeply entrenched in your own nonsense that you're not even coherent anymore.
1) No problem with Sony offering firmware that fixes flaws on their hardware, at the option of the consumer. Whether it be a Netgear router, Cisco router, Sonicwall (which also has auto-update) router, HP printers, Brother printers, Toshiba eStudio printers, VOIP phones, Blackberry Smartphones, practically the entire HTC product line, managed switches, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.,.... they are all voluntary and offered as a courtesy to ostensibly increase the value of their products and foster good will with the consumer.
Yes and?
2) Only Sony were complete fucking dicks and removed a popular feature, that had nothing to do with a flaw. Just you watch. That's a class action lawsuit waiting to happen. If GE came into my home and removed the fucking popcorn feature on my microwave after I paid for it you can bet I would have something (rightfully) to say about that too. So why does Sony get the pass?
Wait, popular? [citation needed]
Further more, a popcorn feature's a trivial feature on a microwave, much like PS3's Other OS function.
They removed the feature because not many people were using it, and they probably found a flaw that would've been too expensive to fix. They stopped bothering with Linux on the PS3 with the Slim. It wasn't drivi
What is at issue is their attempts to obstruct me from loading whatever code I want to onto the device. I will stipulate they don't have to write the code, but they cannot stop me from doing so myself.
Sony isn't breaking your door down to stop you. They didn't to GeoHot, nor did they go after sjeep, or Dark-aleX. They didn't to anyone but the assholes who sold a flimsy non-upgradable microcontroller as a USB stick for $100 a pop to enable piracy on their machines.
But they sure as hell are going to release firmwares that fix flaws with their OS.
I have never said differently. The operative word there being BEFORE.
Which implies they have the right to load a locked down OS that only takes their OS updates, and their signed and encrypted binaries.
Not when it violates our rights and is not in society's best interests. We all get to decide to do what is in our best interests in accordance with the law. You could say that a man raping women every day was only acting in his best interests, but the laws we created say that he can't do that.
Yes, and laws we've created says that what Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo/Apple/et al. is doing is right. It's the DMCA. I think that it's wrong to punish hackers who want to break the system open, but, the system shouldn't be, as a requirement, open.
Absurd? Childish? My wish for them to adhere to current copyright law can be described as such? My wish to have full rights of property ownership is both absurd and childish?
Yes, it's absurd and childish. Later on in this post you cite FISA and the USA PATRIOT ACT. That's a tad absurd.
WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. Soooooo W.R.O.N.G
This has already been decided in other industries like I said before. The Auto industry used to try this bullshit to keep you from buying after market parts from anyone but them. The Telco industry used to try to control what you could connect up to "their" equipment, which was really yours because it was a sale, not a lease.
The Telco bullshit went to the Supreme Court.
You are dead wrong here. I CAN run whatever code I want on any piece of equipment I own. That statement is consistent with the ideals of Freedom and Liberty AND case law AND PRECEDENCE ESTABLISHED IN MANY OTHER CASES.
Except you're talking about very disparate industries with different products and services. There is absolutely NO requirement that a device vendor that sells something with a general purpose CPU allow that general purpose CPU do whatever the user wants it to do. None.
The ends do not justify the means here. You obviously feel it is reasonable to abridge the rest of our rights to serve their interests, which you find reasonable.
NONE OF IT JUSTIFIES THE VIOLATION OF OUR RIGHTS. PERIOD.
I don't know how many times I can say the ends don't justify the means here. The same logic you put forth here is what has allowed the government to screw us over with FISA, allowed water boarding, and allowed the terrible abuses after the Patriot Act.
Let me blunt. Even 10,000 people dead, or 100,000 people dead will not convince me to give up my rights. It will convince me to drop some bombs and go to war, but not to give up my rights.
I don't operate on fear here. That is precisely what you are proposing. Fear that these companies will lose profits and that fear justifying the loss of my rights.
You have no rights to run arbitrary code on electronic machines.
None.
Your comparison between my justification behind this and why we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, FISA Abuse, detainee torture and other war atrocities is childish, AND absurd(See? I was right).
You're being an entitled little brat.
You think that it's okay to abridge my privilege to play Gran Turismo with out worrying about online cheating in honor of your imaginary right to run arbitrary code.
Where does copyright law say they get to control how I read the book? What shelf I place it on? What room I can read it in? Where does copyright law say that the producers can decide to remove the book from my house, once they "sold" it to me, simply because they want to do so?
they don't. Buy dead tree, buy from an online store that has no DRM. But they do get to decide what software they put on their device before they sell it to you. They do get to decide what's in their best interest too. I'm not trying to necessarily defend the right of large multinational corporations to screw us, I'm just saying that the DRM fight and the rhetoric for openness has gotten absurd and childish. Yes, you can't run whatever code you want on your shiny new toy. Maybe there's a reason for it; and maybe it's not because they want to screw you out of your rights. Maybe they're trying to protect their own interests by locking out priates, and protect the interests of the average consumer who doesn't like the idea of doing their own technical support on their own time or deal with cheaters online. Sony, Apple, Nintendo and Microsoft aren't forcing you to buy their hardware or software.
I have absolutely no problems with Sony/Apple/Microsoft/Nintendo locking down their consoles, and I have no problems with hackers trying to break the lockdowns.
Consumers have rights but what we forget is that so do producers.
I think that the DMCA makes a certain amount of sense from a producer's standpoint and in the console hacking field, it's often not wielded like a cudgel against independent homebrew developers. Which is why when it turns out someone was arrested and raided for modding consoles, I usually don't care; they were modding consoles for profit. Which I think is absolutely wrong. Profiting so that way you can bypass copyright protections with methods largely developed by the homebrew not-for-profit scene is profiting off of not just the home brew scene's work but also the console developer's(Even more obscene is charging $100 to run purplera1n or rooting certain easy to root android devices given just how fucking dead simple it is; local chain of cell phone accessories stores does such a thing). Beyond that, it's in MY best interest that Sony does it because I enjoy playing games online and online cheating makes the experience just not fun.
On the other hand, homebrew scenes produce a lot of really cool stuff. XMBC, HDloader for PS2, IRshell for psp... all really cool shit, and I think that consumers should have the right to engage in that fight with content and hardware producers.
Try saying fragmentation a few more times, at least you wont sound like more of a fanboy. The fragmentation myth has been disproved time and time again, I mean tweetdeck had all of two android developers for the hundreds of handsets (in reality they coded for 4 versions of Android, 1.5, 1.6, 2.1 and 2.2). If you don't know how interpreted code works and why android uses this model you shouldn't be participating in this conversation.
Yes, I know how interpreted code works. Android uses this model because they're selling on multiple CPU and GPU platforms.
Yes, tweetdeck can get their simple twitter app out and be done with it with only two devs.
ON THE OTHER HAND
Rovio's listed some LESS THAN A YEAR OLD PHONES as being incompatible with Angry Birds. ANGRY FUCKING BIRDS. My brother's iPhone 3G can play Angry Birds just fine, and it's over two years old. My well over one year old iPhone 3GS can play Angry Birds just fine. Why does the myTouch 3G have problems?
The Android API has problems. The Android distribution chain has problems. the whole thing's a fucking mess.
In the end it still comes down to "do or not do". Wintel is still on top because it does more then any other OS (Linux rules the servers because it does more then any other *nix). Windows does nothing, well lets not kid ourselves, its a bloated, buggy, unreliable piece of crap but it runs all my work programs, games and anything else I throw at it. This will be the same on mobile OS's, in a years time there will be a lot that Android does that other mobile OS's don't do, already my Moto Milestone w/Android 2.2 is more like a desktop machine in a form factor that is convenient to make phone calls on.
Wintel's on top because of unfair, anticompetitive licensing terms.
Also, name these mystical features. Side loading apps isn't a feature, it's a bug.
No, it isn't good for certain one-size fits all competitors. It's excellent for Android customers. UI's sort themselves out as some thrive, some die and orders establish themselves in the same way that various technologies fought on Windows, all can co-exist but one or two become dominant. I'm not a liberatard but the market really will sort this one out.
This is out of order but, this is my best point.
Whenever ANYONE tells me that in the course of action that, "And at this point a miracle occurs that prevents total disaster" I know they're full of shit.
It's happening right now! The latest lineup of Android devices are trending cheaper. Not staying at the same price level. Not to mention, how many stories do I read on gdgt or engadget about the latest stinker Android tablet that's slated to be an "iPad killer" with a 7 inch resistive touch screen display?
No, customers won't defect en masse to another phone platform. You're assuming that consumers are rational. This is very much wrong. Consumers don't care about getting the best for their dollar. So what's good enough now is what they'll go for. in the future though, we're going to see a future of a majority of shitty Android phones and some top of the line models.
This is the, "Shitty build quality and shitty drivers and shitty OS extensions" are bad. Those come from a race to make devices as cheap as possible trying to make up the difference through economies of scale.
That is BAD for consumers. When everyone does it, consumers have no choice.
Choice is good(When the choice was "Windows Mobile" or Symbian, the market for smart phones -sucked-), but, Google hosed their licensing with Android. They should've picked a license that allowed them to both keep the whole OS open source but if you planned to make a buck off of it, your device had to pass some level of QA. Phones are more disposable than PCs. This may actually be very bad for the Android platform.
When the race to the bottom occurs, and everyone's trying to grab marketshare rather than profit, OEMs are going to crap out ever more unreliable, useless hardware. The whole thing's a mess.
This isn't good for consumers. the Android software ecosystem WILL suffer. custom UI skins will be more bloated and useless, apps will become more and more fragmented, and I'm not sure if consumers are going to be willing to put up with it.
Really? All I've seen Apple do is fix security vulnerabilities in their iOS devices. I haven't seen them, "come down" on jailbreaking. No one's gone to jail for jailbreaking.
I saw this thing in Metal Gear Solid 4 two years ago. By unveil do they mean, "This has finally passed all testing and we'll likely put this in service but still use the X designation while we shake out the bugs?"
Apple's going to push more units than any given OEM.
Apple's target isn't Google or Microsoft, it's against other OEMs. Being #1 shouldn't be the ultimate goal for any given business, being profitable is. This is a lesson IBM failed to learn, GM, and soon Nokia and possibly HTC and Motorola.
Let's say you're working on trying to reverse engineer the Xbox 360 controller protocol...
Yes, it has two modes. "Works on windows" and "works on xbox". Getting it to give up it's secrets to work on, "Works on Xbox" mode has been a pain in the ass.
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The cable leaks were one of the things that make me want to step away from what Wikileaks is doing.
There's a several gig file out there with really good stuff and they want to release what Condi Rice said about some diplomat?
Seriously?
didn't twitter come out and say that thanks to Justin Bieber, the trends tracker tracked sudden spikes in activity rather than gross aggregate tweets?
I have 3-2 odds on Anons.
I don't know. Everything that cuts CO2 emissions also have huge positive side benefits too. Cleaner air, better fuels, more efficient cars, cheaper power...
I mean, I'm kind of used to driving into LA and being able to see the Hollywood sign from much further away than 15 years ago or so, and I kind of like it.
I noticed you did not respond to me calling you out on the "but he is cheating during our online game" defense for elimination of property ownership rights and abuses of current copyright law........ :)
Because I was busy at work, and I had a few minutes while I was waiting for mysqldump to do it's thing. Your entire thesis that this is eroding our freedoms and liberties is nonsense. Ironically(or not), my PS3 has to update to 3.55 so I can play GT5(which has to upgrade to 1.03), so I've got a few minutes.
Sony does not have to break my door down. They have jack booted thugs in the government to do that for them. Or did you forget about the court case (thrown out thank god) against the guy who was putting in mod chips into XBOX360s?
Yes, because he was selling things that allowed people to copy games. that's why the pursued the case. However, the case was sloppily put together, the evidence they gathered violated state and local laws, not to mention improperly collecting evidence in general. Did you even read the story or did you see, "Xbox modder set free" and start masturbating yourself into a frenzy of a lolbertarian nonsensical frenzy in joy of taking down the evil man?
Guess what? Manufacturers that don't even have media on their devices are attempting to use copyright, and the DMCA, to make it illegal to change out their firmware. So we are not even talking about bypassing a DRM system. Just loading a different firmware is to be protected under the same guise.
What the fuck does this even mean? Of course they don't. it's a fucking disc that can be read and copied. The real threat is making the damn thing run. Sony has learned it's lesson(judging by the drive flashing schemes for the 360, Microsoft clearly fucking hasn't) and tightened down the OS.
You may, or may not remember that. That court case was essentially lost too and a special exception was given as long the "hack" was for the purposes of unlocking your phone. Progress I guess... You may have been ranting about those fucking cheaters while this happened.
So you are wrong about that too. They are doing their damnedest to break down people's doors.
Again, what the hell does this nonsense even mean? The DMCA exception for jailbreaking wasn't connected to a court case, it was an edict by the library of congress, who's in charge of the finer points of copyright, that lifted the "ban" on jailbreaking your phone. Which I agree with. You're either a clever troll or so deeply entrenched in your own nonsense that you're not even coherent anymore.
1) No problem with Sony offering firmware that fixes flaws on their hardware, at the option of the consumer. Whether it be a Netgear router, Cisco router, Sonicwall (which also has auto-update) router, HP printers, Brother printers, Toshiba eStudio printers, VOIP phones, Blackberry Smartphones, practically the entire HTC product line, managed switches, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.,.... they are all voluntary and offered as a courtesy to ostensibly increase the value of their products and foster good will with the consumer.
Yes and?
2) Only Sony were complete fucking dicks and removed a popular feature, that had nothing to do with a flaw. Just you watch. That's a class action lawsuit waiting to happen. If GE came into my home and removed the fucking popcorn feature on my microwave after I paid for it you can bet I would have something (rightfully) to say about that too. So why does Sony get the pass?
Wait, popular? [citation needed]
Further more, a popcorn feature's a trivial feature on a microwave, much like PS3's Other OS function.
They removed the feature because not many people were using it, and they probably found a flaw that would've been too expensive to fix. They stopped bothering with Linux on the PS3 with the Slim. It wasn't drivi
What is at issue is their attempts to obstruct me from loading whatever code I want to onto the device. I will stipulate they don't have to write the code, but they cannot stop me from doing so myself.
Sony isn't breaking your door down to stop you. They didn't to GeoHot, nor did they go after sjeep, or Dark-aleX. They didn't to anyone but the assholes who sold a flimsy non-upgradable microcontroller as a USB stick for $100 a pop to enable piracy on their machines.
But they sure as hell are going to release firmwares that fix flaws with their OS.
I have never said differently. The operative word there being BEFORE.
Which implies they have the right to load a locked down OS that only takes their OS updates, and their signed and encrypted binaries.
Not when it violates our rights and is not in society's best interests. We all get to decide to do what is in our best interests in accordance with the law. You could say that a man raping women every day was only acting in his best interests, but the laws we created say that he can't do that.
Yes, and laws we've created says that what Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo/Apple/et al. is doing is right. It's the DMCA. I think that it's wrong to punish hackers who want to break the system open, but, the system shouldn't be, as a requirement, open.
Absurd? Childish? My wish for them to adhere to current copyright law can be described as such? My wish to have full rights of property ownership is both absurd and childish?
Yes, it's absurd and childish. Later on in this post you cite FISA and the USA PATRIOT ACT. That's a tad absurd.
WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. Soooooo W.R.O.N.G
This has already been decided in other industries like I said before. The Auto industry used to try this bullshit to keep you from buying after market parts from anyone but them. The Telco industry used to try to control what you could connect up to "their" equipment, which was really yours because it was a sale, not a lease.
The Telco bullshit went to the Supreme Court.
You are dead wrong here. I CAN run whatever code I want on any piece of equipment I own. That statement is consistent with the ideals of Freedom and Liberty AND case law AND PRECEDENCE ESTABLISHED IN MANY OTHER CASES.
Except you're talking about very disparate industries with different products and services. There is absolutely NO requirement that a device vendor that sells something with a general purpose CPU allow that general purpose CPU do whatever the user wants it to do. None.
The ends do not justify the means here. You obviously feel it is reasonable to abridge the rest of our rights to serve their interests, which you find reasonable.
NONE OF IT JUSTIFIES THE VIOLATION OF OUR RIGHTS. PERIOD.
I don't know how many times I can say the ends don't justify the means here. The same logic you put forth here is what has allowed the government to screw us over with FISA, allowed water boarding, and allowed the terrible abuses after the Patriot Act.
Let me blunt. Even 10,000 people dead, or 100,000 people dead will not convince me to give up my rights. It will convince me to drop some bombs and go to war, but not to give up my rights.
I don't operate on fear here. That is precisely what you are proposing. Fear that these companies will lose profits and that fear justifying the loss of my rights.
You have no rights to run arbitrary code on electronic machines.
None.
Your comparison between my justification behind this and why we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, FISA Abuse, detainee torture and other war atrocities is childish, AND absurd(See? I was right).
You're being an entitled little brat.
You think that it's okay to abridge my privilege to play Gran Turismo with out worrying about online cheating in honor of your imaginary right to run arbitrary code.
Oops.
Never post on slashdot before the first diet mountain dew of the day.
Ever use it on a long term basis? Compare it to the Xbox Dashboard and let's talk.
Where does copyright law say they get to control how I read the book? What shelf I place it on? What room I can read it in? Where does copyright law say that the producers can decide to remove the book from my house, once they "sold" it to me, simply because they want to do so?
they don't. Buy dead tree, buy from an online store that has no DRM. But they do get to decide what software they put on their device before they sell it to you. They do get to decide what's in their best interest too. I'm not trying to necessarily defend the right of large multinational corporations to screw us, I'm just saying that the DRM fight and the rhetoric for openness has gotten absurd and childish. Yes, you can't run whatever code you want on your shiny new toy. Maybe there's a reason for it; and maybe it's not because they want to screw you out of your rights. Maybe they're trying to protect their own interests by locking out priates, and protect the interests of the average consumer who doesn't like the idea of doing their own technical support on their own time or deal with cheaters online. Sony, Apple, Nintendo and Microsoft aren't forcing you to buy their hardware or software.
[citation needed]
AT&T, Sprint and Verizon have bigger US marketshare.
XMB is one of the best device interfaces I've used second to iOS and they're not skinning 2.3 to use XMB?
Fuck them.
Wrong
Producers don't have rights? No copyright no likeness rights, no rights at all? Are you SURE of that?
I have absolutely no problems with Sony/Apple/Microsoft/Nintendo locking down their consoles, and I have no problems with hackers trying to break the lockdowns.
Consumers have rights but what we forget is that so do producers.
I think that the DMCA makes a certain amount of sense from a producer's standpoint and in the console hacking field, it's often not wielded like a cudgel against independent homebrew developers. Which is why when it turns out someone was arrested and raided for modding consoles, I usually don't care; they were modding consoles for profit. Which I think is absolutely wrong. Profiting so that way you can bypass copyright protections with methods largely developed by the homebrew not-for-profit scene is profiting off of not just the home brew scene's work but also the console developer's(Even more obscene is charging $100 to run purplera1n or rooting certain easy to root android devices given just how fucking dead simple it is; local chain of cell phone accessories stores does such a thing). Beyond that, it's in MY best interest that Sony does it because I enjoy playing games online and online cheating makes the experience just not fun.
On the other hand, homebrew scenes produce a lot of really cool stuff. XMBC, HDloader for PS2, IRshell for psp... all really cool shit, and I think that consumers should have the right to engage in that fight with content and hardware producers.
Try saying fragmentation a few more times, at least you wont sound like more of a fanboy. The fragmentation myth has been disproved time and time again, I mean tweetdeck had all of two android developers for the hundreds of handsets (in reality they coded for 4 versions of Android, 1.5, 1.6, 2.1 and 2.2). If you don't know how interpreted code works and why android uses this model you shouldn't be participating in this conversation.
Yes, I know how interpreted code works. Android uses this model because they're selling on multiple CPU and GPU platforms.
Yes, tweetdeck can get their simple twitter app out and be done with it with only two devs.
ON THE OTHER HAND
Rovio's listed some LESS THAN A YEAR OLD PHONES as being incompatible with Angry Birds. ANGRY FUCKING BIRDS. My brother's iPhone 3G can play Angry Birds just fine, and it's over two years old. My well over one year old iPhone 3GS can play Angry Birds just fine. Why does the myTouch 3G have problems?
The Android API has problems. The Android distribution chain has problems. the whole thing's a fucking mess.
In the end it still comes down to "do or not do". Wintel is still on top because it does more then any other OS (Linux rules the servers because it does more then any other *nix). Windows does nothing, well lets not kid ourselves, its a bloated, buggy, unreliable piece of crap but it runs all my work programs, games and anything else I throw at it. This will be the same on mobile OS's, in a years time there will be a lot that Android does that other mobile OS's don't do, already my Moto Milestone w/Android 2.2 is more like a desktop machine in a form factor that is convenient to make phone calls on.
Wintel's on top because of unfair, anticompetitive licensing terms.
Also, name these mystical features. Side loading apps isn't a feature, it's a bug.
No, it isn't good for certain one-size fits all competitors. It's excellent for Android customers. UI's sort themselves out as some thrive, some die and orders establish themselves in the same way that various technologies fought on Windows, all can co-exist but one or two become dominant. I'm not a liberatard but the market really will sort this one out.
This is out of order but, this is my best point.
Whenever ANYONE tells me that in the course of action that, "And at this point a miracle occurs that prevents total disaster" I know they're full of shit.
It's happening right now! The latest lineup of Android devices are trending cheaper. Not staying at the same price level. Not to mention, how many stories do I read on gdgt or engadget about the latest stinker Android tablet that's slated to be an "iPad killer" with a 7 inch resistive touch screen display?
No, customers won't defect en masse to another phone platform. You're assuming that consumers are rational. This is very much wrong. Consumers don't care about getting the best for their dollar. So what's good enough now is what they'll go for. in the future though, we're going to see a future of a majority of shitty Android phones and some top of the line models.
Wrong.
This is the, "Shitty build quality and shitty drivers and shitty OS extensions" are bad. Those come from a race to make devices as cheap as possible trying to make up the difference through economies of scale.
That is BAD for consumers. When everyone does it, consumers have no choice.
Choice is good(When the choice was "Windows Mobile" or Symbian, the market for smart phones -sucked-), but, Google hosed their licensing with Android. They should've picked a license that allowed them to both keep the whole OS open source but if you planned to make a buck off of it, your device had to pass some level of QA. Phones are more disposable than PCs. This may actually be very bad for the Android platform.
When the race to the bottom occurs, and everyone's trying to grab marketshare rather than profit, OEMs are going to crap out ever more unreliable, useless hardware. The whole thing's a mess.
This isn't good for consumers. the Android software ecosystem WILL suffer. custom UI skins will be more bloated and useless, apps will become more and more fragmented, and I'm not sure if consumers are going to be willing to put up with it.
yes and prior to that, I don't think I can think of one person who jailbroke an iPhone and went to real jail.
then they will come down on this like apple.
Really? All I've seen Apple do is fix security vulnerabilities in their iOS devices. I haven't seen them, "come down" on jailbreaking. No one's gone to jail for jailbreaking.
I saw this thing in Metal Gear Solid 4 two years ago. By unveil do they mean, "This has finally passed all testing and we'll likely put this in service but still use the X designation while we shake out the bugs?"
A better analogy would be, "Why should Amazon/Borders be forced to carry books about how great the Nook/Kindle is?"
Apple's going to push more units than any given OEM.
Apple's target isn't Google or Microsoft, it's against other OEMs. Being #1 shouldn't be the ultimate goal for any given business, being profitable is. This is a lesson IBM failed to learn, GM, and soon Nokia and possibly HTC and Motorola.
Let's say you're working on trying to reverse engineer the Xbox 360 controller protocol...
Yes, it has two modes. "Works on windows" and "works on xbox". Getting it to give up it's secrets to work on, "Works on Xbox" mode has been a pain in the ass.
I'm curious as to how every single vendor shipping a different interpretation of MeeGo is better than Android?
At least Android's compatible, if fragmented.