I've heard this argument more than once, and here's how I always respond:
"Yeah, I guess you're right. That WordPerfect for DOS training I got in high school [class of '97] is really paying off in the business world now."
There's no point in trying to teach applications, because even if the one prevalent today is the one used when you graduate, it will still be totally different. Schools should be teaching general computer knowledge and UI paradigms -- give kids the tools to figure it out on their own. Teaching Word and Excel should be kept to one-week night classes and "...For Dummies" books; it has no place in the education system.
OK, I did a little research (about 10 seconds worth, should have done it originally), and found the Apache Foundation's contribution guidelines. Basically, they are not yet registered/qualified as a charity, but you can donate to them and write it off as a business expense (which gets to the heart of the original poster's comment about whether or not donating would be legal for a public company).
I think you're wrong. The Apache Foundation is definitely a non-profit charitable organization, and I'm pretty sure Debian is too. They are both legitimate donatable organizations.
"When my accounting system suddenly fails without notice, effectively putting my business OUT OF BUSINESS immediately, WHO DO I SUE?"
The same fucking person you sue when your closed-source app running on Windows fails: NOBODY. Jesus, have you ever read a EULA? You sue absolutely NOBODY. This comment needs to be rated -1 Troll or -1 Total Idiot immediately.
I work in pretty much the exact same situation, and I'm doing the same thing. The number of people who actually use 90% of the features in Excel and Word is very small, so Gnumeric and AbiWord (or OpenOffice) work just fine for them. I haven't begun to move former Windows people over to Linux yet, but new desktops are coming in as Linux workstations, with only applications that I (and company higher-ups) decide they need. Salesmen get workstations with Evolution to do email and keep track of their appointments and contacts and AbiWord/Gnumeric, the guy who does the order packing just has an old Pentium 166 with IceWM and a custom GTK/Python app for printing packing slips.
The good thing about deploying Linux is that since it plays nicely with others, I don't have to migrate people who would be hurt by the move. Our accountants are used to Peachtree, so why change them? The print server they use is now a Linux box, but they have no idea anything changed. The shipper has UPS's custom Windows app on his machine, and that's fine. The Win95 box is on will remain usable until it burns out eventually, no need to change anything.
Especially in this economic climate, my smallish company cannot afford Windows/Office licenses. With Linux, we're upgrading our technological presence at minimum cost. I can buy Athlon barebones kits and create top-of-the-line workstations for under $600 and save nearly $400 each by not using Microsoft for anything.
Bleh, there's nothing philosophical about this season's (or the past two or three's) Simpsons episodes. They're just pointless. There's no plot, no jokes, nothing. I keep watching, in the vain hope that they'll improve, but they probably won't. That episode last week really was the Worst Episode Ever, totally dull and pointless. Whatever, rant over.
I think they were bought before AoE2 came out, so I don't consider them MS food. In fact, I think there was some debate about whether or not MS would distribute their next title (Age of Mythology), which to me is a good thing. It says to me that they're not on the leash too tight. And while we may never see Linux versions of any of these games, I'll keep a Win98 partition open so they can give me more of them.
Also, you're right about the bugfree thing. I've never played a game that didn't have at least three or four glaring bugs/omissions before AoE2. They really check those games, my hat's off to them.
Well then, just time it so you do 120 most of the way, then slow down to 3 mph the last mile before the toll.
Then what's the point of speeding? If you're going to average 65 mph, why not just go 65 mph? You'll get there in the same amount of time as you would by going real fast and then real slow, and you won't run the risk of having your license taken away by a trooper on the side of the road.
There is a fundamental joy in being part of something. It's Maslow Level 2, Safety and Security.
That's what sports are for. That's the only social situation I don't feel like a total idiot going to alone. If you go to a bar to drink by yourself, it's pathetic. But you can easily go to a sporting event any time and you have instant friends. Sports fans never judge.
The catch is that the music they have there is not the top fourty really popular stuff, but more off-beat, less well know things.
That's not a catch, that's the best reason to use them. They have the entire Matador records catalog - Yo La Tengo, Pavement, Mogwai, etc... Fantastic!
At the antiquities market, the admissions gate, and the bookstore next door. There is plenty of profit in archaeology, especially in an established tourist area like Italy. They will make loads more cash from a find like this than they ever would in a parking lot.
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Maybe you should, too, dumbass. Here's a hint: if an argument starts out with "You probably think...," there's a good chance it's fallacious.
Whereas the Democrats are paragons of virtue and cooperation. Bullshit. Where do you get off?
All the poster did was list Ruby Ridge in his list of government mistakes. He didn't blame it on anyone. Little jumpy, are we?
Oooh, a straw man argument. Clever!
Not me. The only way to preserve intelligent conversation is to let people say stuff that's as stupid as they want.
Absolutely masterful. Troll of the day.
Q: Why do women fake orgasms?
A: Because they think we care.
I've heard this argument more than once, and here's how I always respond:
"Yeah, I guess you're right. That WordPerfect for DOS training I got in high school [class of '97] is really paying off in the business world now."
There's no point in trying to teach applications, because even if the one prevalent today is the one used when you graduate, it will still be totally different. Schools should be teaching general computer knowledge and UI paradigms -- give kids the tools to figure it out on their own. Teaching Word and Excel should be kept to one-week night classes and "...For Dummies" books; it has no place in the education system.
OK, I did a little research (about 10 seconds worth, should have done it originally), and found the Apache Foundation's contribution guidelines. Basically, they are not yet registered/qualified as a charity, but you can donate to them and write it off as a business expense (which gets to the heart of the original poster's comment about whether or not donating would be legal for a public company).
I think you're wrong. The Apache Foundation is definitely a non-profit charitable organization, and I'm pretty sure Debian is too. They are both legitimate donatable organizations.
The same fucking person you sue when your closed-source app running on Windows fails: NOBODY. Jesus, have you ever read a EULA? You sue absolutely NOBODY. This comment needs to be rated -1 Troll or -1 Total Idiot immediately.
I work in pretty much the exact same situation, and I'm doing the same thing. The number of people who actually use 90% of the features in Excel and Word is very small, so Gnumeric and AbiWord (or OpenOffice) work just fine for them. I haven't begun to move former Windows people over to Linux yet, but new desktops are coming in as Linux workstations, with only applications that I (and company higher-ups) decide they need. Salesmen get workstations with Evolution to do email and keep track of their appointments and contacts and AbiWord/Gnumeric, the guy who does the order packing just has an old Pentium 166 with IceWM and a custom GTK/Python app for printing packing slips.
The good thing about deploying Linux is that since it plays nicely with others, I don't have to migrate people who would be hurt by the move. Our accountants are used to Peachtree, so why change them? The print server they use is now a Linux box, but they have no idea anything changed. The shipper has UPS's custom Windows app on his machine, and that's fine. The Win95 box is on will remain usable until it burns out eventually, no need to change anything.
Especially in this economic climate, my smallish company cannot afford Windows/Office licenses. With Linux, we're upgrading our technological presence at minimum cost. I can buy Athlon barebones kits and create top-of-the-line workstations for under $600 and save nearly $400 each by not using Microsoft for anything.
You're probably going to have to offer more than $1.37 to get someone to hack that for you.
Bleh, there's nothing philosophical about this season's (or the past two or three's) Simpsons episodes. They're just pointless. There's no plot, no jokes, nothing. I keep watching, in the vain hope that they'll improve, but they probably won't. That episode last week really was the Worst Episode Ever, totally dull and pointless. Whatever, rant over.
I think they were bought before AoE2 came out, so I don't consider them MS food. In fact, I think there was some debate about whether or not MS would distribute their next title (Age of Mythology), which to me is a good thing. It says to me that they're not on the leash too tight. And while we may never see Linux versions of any of these games, I'll keep a Win98 partition open so they can give me more of them.
Also, you're right about the bugfree thing. I've never played a game that didn't have at least three or four glaring bugs/omissions before AoE2. They really check those games, my hat's off to them.
Exactly. The AOE series are the best games ever written - perfect balance of strategy and tactics and beautiful but not overwhelming graphics.
Hmmm, I was unaware that special legislation was required to make people use their login system for their website. What did I miss?
I love Age of Kings, and playing on line is a trillion times better than playing the computer. Now I need a damn Passport account? That really blows.
If you think these are new problems, you were obviously born yesterday.
Well, one might think so, but this is slashdot, where we are all about "tolerance"...unless, of course, they disagree with us.
Well, as long as you don't poor beer into the case every night, it shouldn't be too big a problem.
Nonsense. Just broadcast over the Sub-Etha Net. Updates through the whole galaxy (and multiple unknown dimensions) instantaneously.
Then what's the point of speeding? If you're going to average 65 mph, why not just go 65 mph? You'll get there in the same amount of time as you would by going real fast and then real slow, and you won't run the risk of having your license taken away by a trooper on the side of the road.
If I'm going to speed, I'm going to do it right!
That's what sports are for. That's the only social situation I don't feel like a total idiot going to alone. If you go to a bar to drink by yourself, it's pathetic. But you can easily go to a sporting event any time and you have instant friends. Sports fans never judge.
That's not a catch, that's the best reason to use them. They have the entire Matador records catalog - Yo La Tengo, Pavement, Mogwai, etc... Fantastic!
Yeah, I got one of them too. If my check shows up, I'll let you know.
At the antiquities market, the admissions gate, and the bookstore next door. There is plenty of profit in archaeology, especially in an established tourist area like Italy. They will make loads more cash from a find like this than they ever would in a parking lot.
Ok, that's it. I'm never naming my kid Noam. I don't need a know-nothing arrogant asshole for a son.