Many of the things I have ordered lately have been so grossly over packaged that you could nearly smash the entire package before actually hurting the contents (I'm looking at you Amazon). I can see how this would be really useful for ordering overly fragile things, but if it costs more than shipping insurance is it really going to be worth it?
You are postulating that morality is based on religion which is demonstrably false. The original issue that started this debate was not whether one is influenced by the culture you were brought up in, but whether a religion and it's adherents are separable. I propose that without followers, a religion would cease to exist meaning that a religion is inseparable from it's followers.
As much as those of the Judea-Christian followers wish to claim all purchase on all things moral, the fundamentals of our moral code predate their silly superstitions and fraudulent history books. In fact if we still followed their morality, women wouldn't be allowed to wear pants and you'd be killed for eating bacon or a wearing a poly-cotton blend. The foundations of morality in our society are based on what is best for the community (don't kill, etc,). These precepts are constants in the societies that far predate any kind of Jewish or Xian ideology. In fact the religion it based more on morality than the other way around.
I'm not saying there has been no influence; quite the opposite. The original post which I replied to is about religions influence on society and how it has been and continues to be a predominantly negative force.
The majority of people I've met that are AA and NA superstars are weak, pathetic, assholes that refuse to take responsibility for the fact that they can't handle their liquor so instead blame their character flaws on the devil drink instead of actually trying to learn moderation and how not to be complete piece of human garbage. When people say "I'm sorry for acting shitty but I was drunk" they should just say "I'm sorry I'm a piece of shit, but that's what you get for associating with me". I know not all people in AA are like that and that it does help some people, but it enables more people that it helps and basically as a result, the whole organization kind of looks like a bunch of assholes. AA doesn't exist because of drunks, it exists as a shallow comfort to people that won't take responsibility for being assholes with or without drink.
Take Catholics, some clerics abused young males. Does that mean their religion teaches or approves that or all Catholics are guilty of that?
The pedo priests are a systemic problem with the physical embodiment of the church and it's organization, not so much the religion or ideals behind it.
what about the atheists throughout the ages that slaughtered tens of thousands and then ate their foes? Does that mean all atheists are that way?
I'd like to see you cite an actual example of this happening ever.
Take Islam. It has specific tennets about protecting innocents in times of battle (like women and children). The majority of practicing Muslims follow those tennets. However, radical Islamists don't. Does that mean that all of Islam are violent or only those who have twisted it to mean something other than what the religion teaches
Islam also has tennets about conversion by the sword fyi. I'm not trying to paint all religious people as fundamental wack-jobs, but when the majority of the voices heard from a particular belief represent it as an intolerant, hateful, and repressive organization then people on the outside of that organization have every right to see everyone associated with it in the same light, even if they are the minority.
Basically if you don't want to be seen as an asshole, don't hang out with assholes or follow their doctrines. Either that or take responsibility and start making the assholes the minority of voices instead of the the most vocal minority.
The flaw in your argument is that if you are born in Germany, you are German. You're not realistically born with inherent knowledge of any specific religion; it has to be taught to you which you then have a chance to accept or reject. Nationality is not taught, its geography, it's not a construct of man. However, religion would not exist without the people in the collective religion, it cannot exist without the people therefore the representatives of the belief are essentially the religion.
I'm no fan of the scientologists either, but I have to agree with you they are relatively harmless when you look at the grand scheme of american society. The fundies have screwed up WAY more things that crazy Cruise and Johnny in the closet.
You can argue all day that the people aren't the religion, but at the end of the day the only real representation of any organization is how the people within it act and it can therefore be said that the religion is more the people who follow and individually interpret it than the dogma taught to them. After all without the people, there would be no religion, with or without the doctrine.
Nice try, maybe you should read the article. The air is going to keep the vehicles going except at lower speeds so it doesn't need to push a vehicle at highway speeds for short periods of time. By your same logic the energy contained in a Li-Ion battery is also a huge hazard.
Asphyxia kills you in case you didn't know you pedantic and pretentious dick, and obviously you've never worked with pure h2o2 so you wouldn't know that by itself, it will kill you as well. And yes, a large scale (several gallons) of h2o2 does require a hazmat response. Maybe you should put your preposition to a test by going and drinking some from your medicine cabinet then telling us how non toxic it is.
Maybe you should try reading up on these issues before you start pontificating idiotic bullshit.
1. Natural Gas is flammable even if there is no compression so it's kind of dangerous regardless of compression state, and NG is toxic if inhaled in high concentrations. Uncompressed air is just, well, air so a leak in a CNG tank regardless of explosive potential is a potential breathing hazard as well.
2. Exactly how big do you think these tanks are going to be that if ruptured there would be enough energy release to blow up a city block? I somehow doubt that these tanks are going to be large enough to hold enough pressure to be a potential large scale disaster for the exact reasons you've already stated.
3. Are you actually advocating the use of a toxic and corrosive chemical (H2O2) that when released might need a hazmat team to clean up? Why don't we just start using Mercury vapor lights for our headlights too?
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Many of the things I have ordered lately have been so grossly over packaged that you could nearly smash the entire package before actually hurting the contents (I'm looking at you Amazon). I can see how this would be really useful for ordering overly fragile things, but if it costs more than shipping insurance is it really going to be worth it?
We used AlCu sputtering and AlTi for out interconnects. AlCu looks cool, but is a really dirty process.
Nope, sputtering has been a pretty standard part of the semiconductor process for at least 2 decades now...
Man, that reference is so old i had to dust it off to read that post! Nice!
You are postulating that morality is based on religion which is demonstrably false. The original issue that started this debate was not whether one is influenced by the culture you were brought up in, but whether a religion and it's adherents are separable. I propose that without followers, a religion would cease to exist meaning that a religion is inseparable from it's followers.
As much as those of the Judea-Christian followers wish to claim all purchase on all things moral, the fundamentals of our moral code predate their silly superstitions and fraudulent history books. In fact if we still followed their morality, women wouldn't be allowed to wear pants and you'd be killed for eating bacon or a wearing a poly-cotton blend. The foundations of morality in our society are based on what is best for the community (don't kill, etc,). These precepts are constants in the societies that far predate any kind of Jewish or Xian ideology. In fact the religion it based more on morality than the other way around.
I'm not saying there has been no influence; quite the opposite. The original post which I replied to is about religions influence on society and how it has been and continues to be a predominantly negative force.
That's North Korean logic!
Unless they are really high powered, no.
The majority of people I've met that are AA and NA superstars are weak, pathetic, assholes that refuse to take responsibility for the fact that they can't handle their liquor so instead blame their character flaws on the devil drink instead of actually trying to learn moderation and how not to be complete piece of human garbage. When people say "I'm sorry for acting shitty but I was drunk" they should just say "I'm sorry I'm a piece of shit, but that's what you get for associating with me". I know not all people in AA are like that and that it does help some people, but it enables more people that it helps and basically as a result, the whole organization kind of looks like a bunch of assholes. AA doesn't exist because of drunks, it exists as a shallow comfort to people that won't take responsibility for being assholes with or without drink.
Yeah it'd make you think I'm irish catholic or something.
Take Catholics, some clerics abused young males. Does that mean their religion teaches or approves that or all Catholics are guilty of that?
The pedo priests are a systemic problem with the physical embodiment of the church and it's organization, not so much the religion or ideals behind it.
what about the atheists throughout the ages that slaughtered tens of thousands and then ate their foes? Does that mean all atheists are that way?
I'd like to see you cite an actual example of this happening ever.
Take Islam. It has specific tennets about protecting innocents in times of battle (like women and children). The majority of practicing Muslims follow those tennets. However, radical Islamists don't. Does that mean that all of Islam are violent or only those who have twisted it to mean something other than what the religion teaches
Islam also has tennets about conversion by the sword fyi. I'm not trying to paint all religious people as fundamental wack-jobs, but when the majority of the voices heard from a particular belief represent it as an intolerant, hateful, and repressive organization then people on the outside of that organization have every right to see everyone associated with it in the same light, even if they are the minority.
Basically if you don't want to be seen as an asshole, don't hang out with assholes or follow their doctrines. Either that or take responsibility and start making the assholes the minority of voices instead of the the most vocal minority.
The flaw in your argument is that if you are born in Germany, you are German. You're not realistically born with inherent knowledge of any specific religion; it has to be taught to you which you then have a chance to accept or reject. Nationality is not taught, its geography, it's not a construct of man. However, religion would not exist without the people in the collective religion, it cannot exist without the people therefore the representatives of the belief are essentially the religion.
Maybe they were shooting for some overbearing and overarching metaphor of some sort.
Someone just did. In fact I will right here: ALL religions have not done bad things.
I'm just being a jerk now. Time to stop.
Someone just did. In fact I will right here: ALL religions have not done bad things.
In catholicism's infancy it was not so easy to leave that church alive either.
I'm no fan of the scientologists either, but I have to agree with you they are relatively harmless when you look at the grand scheme of american society. The fundies have screwed up WAY more things that crazy Cruise and Johnny in the closet.
You can argue all day that the people aren't the religion, but at the end of the day the only real representation of any organization is how the people within it act and it can therefore be said that the religion is more the people who follow and individually interpret it than the dogma taught to them. After all without the people, there would be no religion, with or without the doctrine.
Well, they did consult the giant spider on it after all. Isn't that how they make their doctrine?
The Iranian government despises western civilization, the people not so much.
Well, to be fair, this is Iran. I mean look at the typical Islamist regime and their claims of "The Religion of Peace" while chopping off hands.
Nice try, maybe you should read the article. The air is going to keep the vehicles going except at lower speeds so it doesn't need to push a vehicle at highway speeds for short periods of time. By your same logic the energy contained in a Li-Ion battery is also a huge hazard.
Asphyxia kills you in case you didn't know you pedantic and pretentious dick, and obviously you've never worked with pure h2o2 so you wouldn't know that by itself, it will kill you as well. And yes, a large scale (several gallons) of h2o2 does require a hazmat response. Maybe you should put your preposition to a test by going and drinking some from your medicine cabinet then telling us how non toxic it is.
Maybe you should try reading up on these issues before you start pontificating idiotic bullshit.
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1. Natural Gas is flammable even if there is no compression so it's kind of dangerous regardless of compression state, and NG is toxic if inhaled in high concentrations. Uncompressed air is just, well, air so a leak in a CNG tank regardless of explosive potential is a potential breathing hazard as well.
2. Exactly how big do you think these tanks are going to be that if ruptured there would be enough energy release to blow up a city block? I somehow doubt that these tanks are going to be large enough to hold enough pressure to be a potential large scale disaster for the exact reasons you've already stated.
3. Are you actually advocating the use of a toxic and corrosive chemical (H2O2) that when released might need a hazmat team to clean up? Why don't we just start using Mercury vapor lights for our headlights too?
That's kind of the point, dipshit.
You win! All the internets to you Sirrah!
File this under the No Shit category and move on with our days shall we?