According to ars technica the proper pronouncement of OS X 10.5 is "O.S. ten ten point five" so yeah the great-grandparent poster was correct. It's redundant.
>>>and only dropped to $2.70 at the 2009 inauguration
Except that the gas price actually dropped to $2.70 during the last year of Bush's presidency. For Obama or his supporters to take credit for something that happened before Obama set foot in office makes no sense.
>>>First, only the people paying for the fast speeds are the ones using it to verify,
I used it on both my slow-speed 56k dialup and 750k DSL so your presumption is false. And rerunning the test simply stores additional data for each person. Anyway I have yet to find a more-reliable source than speedtest, since it measures actual connections from billions of tests. No other organization has done that.
Yeah $300 flat rate would be better. I've had high-speed for 4 years now so google's plan would have cost me ~$6/month. I suspect this plan is a loss-leader for google, similar to how Xbox worked for Microsoft. It's a way to establish themselves in a new market.
Oh and in your other post you said we are 35th in speeds. False. According to speedtest.net the U.S. and E.U. as equal in speeds (~12 Mbit/s average). They are tied for 3rd place behind Korea and Japan, but ahead of Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Australia, India, and China.
In other words both the Americans and Europeans are first-world civilizations with first-world rankings (near the top).
>>>No cable. Their house doesn't have cable coax. >>>No cell. The valley effectively blocks all signals. >>>No satellite. They don't have line-of-sight
Instead of expecting others solve your problem, you should solve the problem yourself.
Your parents CHOSE to live in a rural area...... presumably because they like it there. Well with choices come consequences and tradeoffs. They get a beautiful area to live, but no highspeed. Oh well. When *I* wanted internet I moved away from the Amish country & closer to Baltimore and got it. Therefore if I were them I would move out of the valley to a hill that can receive free TV, satellite, cellular service. Or better yet: Into the city where there's plenty of services for elders (like almost-free bus & train transport).
In the meantime there's always dialup. It costs me $7/month through isp.netscape.com and works with websites, streaming radio, and even youtube (download first, then watch). They can use that if they voluntarily choose to remain where they are.
$15/month is a lot smaller than $75/month. Maybe that's why we haven't seen more fiber installations... people not willing to pay the cost. Sooooo how did Google get permission to install fiber w/o getting sued by KC's local monopolies (Verizon and Comcast)??
Yes I think if you're 40 years old and never had kids, then you should no longer have to pay school taxes since you never used the government school. (Of course if a miracle occurs and you get pregnant, then you'd have to resume paying.)
As for "programming" everyone knows that government schools are 95% education (good) but also 5% propaganda. In my day it was the importance of eating equal amounts of bread, dairy, cheese, etc..... even though cheese is bad for you (high in bad fat/cholesterol) but the government didn't care. It wanted to support the farm corporations.
>>>Knowing our Congress, they'll try to ban teaching Geometry in schools. After all, you can't print illegal shapes if you don't know shapes!
Which is why we need School Choice to escape the Congress' or State Legislature's programming. You should be able to send your kid to any public or private school you wish (as is the case in the EU), and if it's private then you should be exempt from paying Public School Tax for that year (just as you don't pay gas taxes if you don't use public roads).
You can now literally download them and "print" the parts. (Or the local black market dealer can do it.) Outlawing guns is now more pointless than outlawing weed or cocaine, and will fail harder.
When software-related stuff just stops working after I've changed nothing, I usually assume it's the website that went down. It's a bit shocking that people "complained" about it. Phones do stop working from time-to-time. Even POTS only has 99.995% reliability not 100%.
Of course most people aren't logical..... there's a new photo going-round facebook that claims Obama made gas prices go down, and therefore we should re-elect him. Problem: Historical data shows prices went upward from ~$2.70 when the president started. But explaining this to the photo posters usually gets shotdown ("You're just a racist" is the typical comeback). Anyway it's illogical to expect Google Phone or Skype to have 100% reliability. Like any machine they break from time-to-time. No reason to complain about it.
That's the same logic people use to justify buying Honda's $35,000 Acura that has automatic everything and can even park itself. Personally I'd rather buy a Honda Civic for $15,000, do my own parking, and give myself $20,000 worth of time off (3 months) to spend it with my wife & kids & friends.
Ditto with PC v. Mac. Admittedly $600 saved isn't a lot, but it does eliminate the need to work overtime on Saturday to pay the Mac's extra cost.
So macs have been using the same OS since 2000? Wow. And I thought XP had a long lifespan. At least we XP users got our versions (SP0,1,2,3) for free and didn't have to pay for them.
According to ars techica the proper pronouncement of OS X 10.5 is "O.S. ten ten point five" so yeah the grandparent poster was correct. It's redundant.
Apple's never made that claim for 10.8, because they know they would get sued for false advertising. But they made the "Macs don't get viruses" claim to OS 10.5, 10.6, and 10.7 (which has been shown to be false).
I like Macs. But not the pricetag (see my signature). I used them faithfully throughout college, but not anymore. I wish Commodore & Atari were still in business. They sold computers at prices normal people could afford ($150 for a C64, $500 for an Amiga or ST) (versus $2-3000 for IBM PC or Mac).
My car gets 60 mpg going UPhill. (It's a 2-door honda insight.) 90mpg on the long flat interstate. I love this car and wish Honda had not stopped making it.
I also wish Ford would import its 60mpg diesel Focus from Europe, or Volkswagen its 70mpg Polo, but for some reason they don't think Americans would like it, so we don't get the option.:-(
Dear AC: The article you linked has NO relevance to the Comcast v. FiOS competition and increase of rates to 305 Mbit/s. The article you linked is old news (May) and about usage-based billing ($/gigabyte) in two test cities and a completely-separate issue from the ultrafast internet Comcast is introducing to fight FiOS.
Never happy. Comcast is offering 300 Mbit/s which is faster than Sweden or Japan's national average (~20 Mbit/s), and yet still you complain. This rollout will put my state Maryland, which is almost exclusively Comcast territory, in the top 10 fastest of all EU or US states. And all you can do is complain. Personally it makes me happy.
I do. The government-owned water company drains to a trickle whenever the local business is on lunch break. And brownouts (too many people and not enough electricity) are not unheard of during summer months. Water/electric is really no different than internet, where they are unable to meet peak demand.
>>>It is "working as of when I boxed it, but I make no guarantee that it will not arrive Dead On Arrival"? Because there is nothing wrong with that.
Actually that's against the law. Otherwise people could sell already-broken stuff, and then when it arrives say, "Oh the post office broke it." i.e. A preplanned scam. So the law requires the seller to deliver a working item if they advertise it as working when it left their home.
Likewise it is illegal to use "as is" to ripoff the buyer. For example if you advertise a car as "having no rust and sold as is," and the buyer receives a rusty car then the seller has committed a crime. (False advertising.) And the reason I called you "dense" is because you should ALREADY know all this stuff if you claim to be an ebay seller.
My current hotel does have free wifi, but that isn't the norm. For example Super8 and Motel6 charge around $3/day or $90/month. Dialup is a mere 7 per month.
>>>You could always buy an Android tablet with enough storage to hold multiple movies and then rent enough movies from Google Play to last you through your trip.
I do but that still doesn't help me read email or facebook. Hence the need for dialup internet. With text & image compression turned-on, the pages appear to load as fast as a 500k connection.
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According to ars technica the proper pronouncement of OS X 10.5 is "O.S. ten ten point five" so yeah the great-grandparent poster was correct. It's redundant.
>>>and only dropped to $2.70 at the 2009 inauguration
Except that the gas price actually dropped to $2.70 during the last year of Bush's presidency. For Obama or his supporters to take credit for something that happened before Obama set foot in office makes no sense.
That's quite a heater! Mine only goes up to 1.5 kilowatts.
So is Xeon a faster CPU than the i7?
>>>First, only the people paying for the fast speeds are the ones using it to verify,
I used it on both my slow-speed 56k dialup and 750k DSL so your presumption is false. And rerunning the test simply stores additional data for each person. Anyway I have yet to find a more-reliable source than speedtest, since it measures actual connections from billions of tests. No other organization has done that.
>>>with this being only $50 for the TV part you'll get fewer channels. It won't be DirecTV's selection
Maybe... maybe not. Dish TV gives hundreds of channels for only $35/month so can't really assume there will be less selection for GoogleTV at $50.
Yeah $300 flat rate would be better. I've had high-speed for 4 years now so google's plan would have cost me ~$6/month. I suspect this plan is a loss-leader for google, similar to how Xbox worked for Microsoft. It's a way to establish themselves in a new market.
Oh and in your other post you said we are 35th in speeds. False. According to speedtest.net the U.S. and E.U. as equal in speeds (~12 Mbit/s average). They are tied for 3rd place behind Korea and Japan, but ahead of Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Australia, India, and China.
In other words both the Americans and Europeans are first-world civilizations with first-world rankings (near the top).
>>>No cable. Their house doesn't have cable coax.
>>>No cell. The valley effectively blocks all signals.
>>>No satellite. They don't have line-of-sight
Instead of expecting others solve your problem,
you should solve the problem yourself.
Your parents CHOSE to live in a rural area...... presumably because they like it there. Well with choices come consequences and tradeoffs. They get a beautiful area to live, but no highspeed. Oh well. When *I* wanted internet I moved away from the Amish country & closer to Baltimore and got it. Therefore if I were them I would move out of the valley to a hill that can receive free TV, satellite, cellular service. Or better yet: Into the city where there's plenty of services for elders (like almost-free bus & train transport).
In the meantime there's always dialup. It costs me $7/month through isp.netscape.com and works with websites, streaming radio, and even youtube (download first, then watch). They can use that if they voluntarily choose to remain where they are.
$15/month is a lot smaller than $75/month. Maybe that's why we haven't seen more fiber installations... people not willing to pay the cost. Sooooo how did Google get permission to install fiber w/o getting sued by KC's local monopolies (Verizon and Comcast)??
Fired them. (No tolerance policy.)
Yes I think if you're 40 years old and never had kids, then you should no longer have to pay school taxes since you never used the government school. (Of course if a miracle occurs and you get pregnant, then you'd have to resume paying.)
As for "programming" everyone knows that government schools are 95% education (good) but also 5% propaganda. In my day it was the importance of eating equal amounts of bread, dairy, cheese, etc..... even though cheese is bad for you (high in bad fat/cholesterol) but the government didn't care. It wanted to support the farm corporations.
>>>Knowing our Congress, they'll try to ban teaching Geometry in schools. After all, you can't print illegal shapes if you don't know shapes!
Which is why we need School Choice to escape the Congress' or State Legislature's programming. You should be able to send your kid to any public or private school you wish (as is the case in the EU), and if it's private then you should be exempt from paying Public School Tax for that year (just as you don't pay gas taxes if you don't use public roads).
You can now literally download them and "print" the parts. (Or the local black market dealer can do it.) Outlawing guns is now more pointless than outlawing weed or cocaine, and will fail harder.
>>> :3
Nice chest. ;-)
Interesting you have have no mouth.
When software-related stuff just stops working after I've changed nothing, I usually assume it's the website that went down. It's a bit shocking that people "complained" about it. Phones do stop working from time-to-time. Even POTS only has 99.995% reliability not 100%.
Of course most people aren't logical..... there's a new photo going-round facebook that claims Obama made gas prices go down, and therefore we should re-elect him. Problem: Historical data shows prices went upward from ~$2.70 when the president started. But explaining this to the photo posters usually gets shotdown ("You're just a racist" is the typical comeback). Anyway it's illogical to expect Google Phone or Skype to have 100% reliability. Like any machine they break from time-to-time. No reason to complain about it.
That's the same logic people use to justify buying Honda's $35,000 Acura that has automatic everything and can even park itself. Personally I'd rather buy a Honda Civic for $15,000, do my own parking, and give myself $20,000 worth of time off (3 months) to spend it with my wife & kids & friends.
Ditto with PC v. Mac. Admittedly $600 saved isn't a lot, but it does eliminate the need to work overtime on Saturday to pay the Mac's extra cost.
>>>The product is "OS X". The version is 10.5.
So macs have been using the same OS since 2000? Wow. And I thought XP had a long lifespan. At least we XP users got our versions (SP0,1,2,3) for free and didn't have to pay for them.
According to ars techica the proper pronouncement of OS X 10.5 is "O.S. ten ten point five" so yeah the grandparent poster was correct. It's redundant.
Apple's never made that claim for 10.8, because they know they would get sued for false advertising. But they made the "Macs don't get viruses" claim to OS 10.5, 10.6, and 10.7 (which has been shown to be false).
I like Macs. But not the pricetag (see my signature). I used them faithfully throughout college, but not anymore. I wish Commodore & Atari were still in business. They sold computers at prices normal people could afford ($150 for a C64, $500 for an Amiga or ST) (versus $2-3000 for IBM PC or Mac).
My car gets 60 mpg going UPhill. (It's a 2-door honda insight.) 90mpg on the long flat interstate. I love this car and wish Honda had not stopped making it.
I also wish Ford would import its 60mpg diesel Focus from Europe, or Volkswagen its 70mpg Polo, but for some reason they don't think Americans would like it, so we don't get the option. :-(
Dear AC: The article you linked has NO relevance to the Comcast v. FiOS competition and increase of rates to 305 Mbit/s.
The article you linked is old news (May) and about usage-based billing ($/gigabyte) in two test cities and a completely-separate issue from the ultrafast internet Comcast is introducing to fight FiOS.
Never happy.
Comcast is offering 300 Mbit/s which is faster than Sweden or Japan's national average (~20 Mbit/s), and yet still you complain. This rollout will put my state Maryland, which is almost exclusively Comcast territory, in the top 10 fastest of all EU or US states.
And all you can do is complain.
Personally it makes me happy.
I do. The government-owned water company drains to a trickle whenever the local business is on lunch break. And brownouts (too many people and not enough electricity) are not unheard of during summer months. Water/electric is really no different than internet, where they are unable to meet peak demand.
>>>It is "working as of when I boxed it, but I make no guarantee that it will not arrive Dead On Arrival"? Because there is nothing wrong with that.
Actually that's against the law.
Otherwise people could sell already-broken stuff, and then when it arrives say, "Oh the post office broke it." i.e. A preplanned scam. So the law requires the seller to deliver a working item if they advertise it as working when it left their home.
Likewise it is illegal to use "as is" to ripoff the buyer. For example if you advertise a car as "having no rust and sold as is," and the buyer receives a rusty car then the seller has committed a crime. (False advertising.) And the reason I called you "dense" is because you should ALREADY know all this stuff if you claim to be an ebay seller.
My current hotel does have free wifi, but that isn't the norm. For example Super8 and Motel6 charge around $3/day or $90/month. Dialup is a mere 7 per month.
>>>You could always buy an Android tablet with enough storage to hold multiple movies and then rent enough movies from Google Play to last you through your trip.
I do but that still doesn't help me read email or facebook. Hence the need for dialup internet. With text & image compression turned-on, the pages appear to load as fast as a 500k connection.