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World's Most Powerful x86 Supercomputer Boots Up in Germany
Nerval's Lobster writes "Europe's most powerful supercomputer — and the fourth most powerful in the world — has been officially inaugurated. The SuperMUC, ranked fourth in the June TOP500 supercomputing listing, contains 147,456 cores using Intel Xeon 2.7-GHz, 8-core E5-2680 chips. IBM, which built the supercomputer, stated in a recent press release that the supercomputer actually includes more than 155,000 processor cores. It is located at the Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (Leibniz Supercomputing Centre) in Garching, Germany, near Munich. According to the TOP500 list, the SuperMUC is the world's most powerful X86-based supercomputer. The Department of Energy's 'Sequoia' supercomputer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, Calif., the world's [overall] most powerful, relies on 16-core, 1.6-GHz POWER BQC chips."
My fatass almost got excited for a second.. a supercomputer fueled by BBQ... :(
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powerful and x86 are oxymorons. Try the i860 architecture now THAT's a processor, it's ancient I know.
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I need to find myself some of these Power BBQ Chips mentioned in the summary. Fast and tangy without the downside of Cheetoh fingers.
crysis won't run on highest settings. Sjeez.
A few fries short of a happy meal eh?
But the real question is, can it run bitcoin mining software? See, you thought I was going to say Linux or Crysis, didn't you? lol.
;-)
P.S. most miners are run on Linux btw
If it was instead running Itanium (yes, I know that nobody uses Itanium any more) it would have been well suited to be called "Power BBQ" just by the heat output.
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Windows 8 is a hog.
Its Europe's most powerful x64 supercomputer, not the world's.
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Now if the Fed can just loan them our financial modeling software,
maybe we can save Spain.
On 2nd thought Goldman-Sachs might be a better place to shop for software.
I skimmed the article and couldn't find mention of what it's going to be calculating.
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2.7-GHz, 8-core E5-2680 chips
My computer is way faster than that!!!
and contains 155,000 processor cores
Oops, Never mind!
Can it play Crysis?
The price is always right if someone else is paying.
It's EUROPE's fastest supercomputer - but the topic title says "World." Last time I checked, Europe wasn't quite THAT big...
It's believe "mir". To believe (glauben) needs the dative case, not accusative (that would be "mich").
Now go and brush up on your German. Jeeeez.
That's quite a heater! Mine only goes up to 1.5 kilowatts.
So is Xeon a faster CPU than the i7?
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... and in an instant, what was left of Germany's economy is vacuumed up by utility companies.
Did anyone else read this in a Fu Manchu voice? *giggle*
1) Does it run Linux?
2) I for one, would like to welcome our new register constrained overlord.
3) Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of these?
4) In Soviet Russia supercomputer run YOU!
5) There is no God, I reject your fairytales.
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But they couldn't get the money out of Greese fast enough.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
$31.8 million in processors....if they bought them from newegg.
> actually includes more than 155,000 processor cores
Scientists and engineers toyed with putting Windows 8 on it, but Windows 8 with 150,000-200,000 core support was over $73 trillion.
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I think it's designed to run complex calculations on how the price of tea in china is related to everything.
play a game?
Has anyone created a 'super computer' out of raspberry pi's yet?
It's believe "mir". To believe (glauben) needs the dative case, not accusative (that would be "mich").
Now go and brush up on your German. Jeeeez.
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Can you send a screencast?
At those settings, it must be better than real life.
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Every year I keep reading that there are these new technologies that allow processors to go up to 128, 256, 512 and 1024bit computing (and beyond) or at least should be seen in the next year or two but that never happens. I've been hearing about this since the turn of the century. So could somebody be kind enough to explain this to me please and whether or not this has a use for anyone?
"...1.6-GHz POWER BBQ chips."
I really hate how the focus these days is on more cores, not faster cores.
Not every task is trivially parallelizable, and even with those that are, the speedup you get from running on N cores is always going to be less than Nx.
I'd be much more impressed by a supercomputer running, say, 1/4 as many 4.0 GHz+ processors.
Also: if what you're going for is massively parallelizable tasks, x86 is so last century--GPGPUs are where it's at.
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with all those cpus. :)
Something that can boot Windows 8 in a reasonable amout of time...
Xeons are available in 8 and 10 core models (this computer uses the 8 core version) whereas i7s are only 4 and 6 core.
Hehe, way to go with Google translate. Nobody would say a sentence like this in german, it sounds pretty weird. The common term for "bitch" is "Schlampe".
... Can you play Doom on it?
The 16, 32, 64, 128-bit computing refers to the standard register size for integers and pointers in a processor. Specifically, a 32-bit computer can generally access 2^32 locations of memory, which is 4GB. A "true" 64-bit processor would be able to address 2^64 (18 quintrillian) bytes of memory. However, x86-64 only use 40 bytes for addressing, which will handle 1 TB of RAM. Additionally, doubling the data size makes every operation take significantly longer, so clock speeds have to suffer. Since very few applications actually need 64-bit or higher math functions, its more efficient to implement higher order stuff in software, and have a faster executing processor.
64 bits are enough to perform any kind of needed computation. More bits would imply larger instructions, larger memory pointers, less usable cache space; basically a waste.
Just think that now there's a proposal of switching many applications to use 32 bits pointers (on Linux) even if using 64 bits registers, so that more space is available for L1, L2 and L3 cache.
Hope this helps, cheers
Don't mix up addressing and computing.
The whole internet would fit in a 64 bit address space, there is really absolutely no need at all for more than 64 bit for addresses in CPUs, that's why x86_64 and other 64 bit archs are here to stay, and you'll probably never see "128 bit" processors at all.
On the other side, today's x86_64 CPUs are capable of 128 bit (SSE) and 256 bit (AVX) computing. The width of the compute units is also bound to increase for some time, with Intel already planning to go 1024 bit in the not-so-far future.
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x86 hasn't been limited to 4GB of ram since the Pentium Pro!
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Not always true. The 68000 has 8 x 32bit address and 8 x 32bit data registers, with a 24bit address bus. Nearly all operations can be performed as 32bit. Yet it's reguarded as a 16bit cpu.
will consume 50% of the CPU. If they run windows, 80% of the rest will be consumed by DPCs. That leaves 10% for the intended function.
World's Most Powerful x86 Supercomputer Boots Up in Germany
So, how fast does it boot?
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Not always true. The 68000 has 8 x 32bit address and 8 x 32bit data registers, with a 24bit address bus. Nearly all operations can be performed as 32bit.
Yet it's reguarded as a 16bit cpu.
The 68000 had a 16-bit external bus and 32-bit internal architecture.
It was regarded as a 16/32-bit processor.
Imagine a beowulf cluster of SuperMUCs, or a cluster of clusters which would be semantically reduced to just 'cluster'....so just imagine a beowulf cluster.
But what sort of video card has it got?
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Sure, it takes a while to manufacture the physical components, but they should have switched to a Flex configuration even midway in the installation process - would have saved money in the long run.
but then neither can any other system, since it requires windows and we all know that it sux badly.
And yet, everything that you have pointed out, has actually IMPROVED magnitudes due to these large supercomputers. Weather is improving all the time. When I was a kid, getting the weather right just 12 hours ahead was difficult. Back in mid 90's, it was about 2-3 days out. Now, it is roughly 4-5 days out that are pretty decent for the bulk of America and certainly almost all of Europe (not sure of other areas). And I am referring to Colorado front range, which is one of America's worst places to forecast at. Anybody that can do better than 60% here will do better than 90% elsewhere.
The CPU core is Sandy Bridge so the processor is 64-bit i.e. X86-64. I guess that since you would be hard pressed to find a non 64-bit X86 system today they skipped that bit. This is what used to happen in the past as well. We have had X86-16, X86-32, X86-64 up to now. Besides the addressing space is not of the utmost importance since this is most likely a cluster with message-passing.
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When did "n bit processor" change its meaning from "n bit data" to "n bit address"?
The 8080 was an 8 bit processor, despite the fact that it had a 16 bit address bus (all addresses were given in 16 bits, unconditionally; you needed two registers to hold an address).
The 8086 was a 16 bit processor, despite the fact that its addresses were 20 bit (although they were split up into 16 bit chunks by segmentation, so a complete address needed a 16 bit segment and a 16 bit offset to be combined to a 20 bit address).
However, x86-64 only use 40 bytes for addressing, which will handle 1 TB of RAM.
40 *bytes* would be overkill and more than a TB, and 40 bits is outdated information:
"Current implementations of the AMD64 architecture (starting from AMD 10h microarchitecture) extend this to 48-bit physical addresses[9] and therefore can address up to 256 TB of RAM. The architecture permits extending this to 52 bits in the future"
So without a new architecture, can hit a petabyte of ram. There are systems with multiple terabytes of ram on a system already (see IBM x3850 x5 for example)
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With 155.000 cores and 8 cores per CPU, you'll have 19375 CPUs. Even if every CPU supported only 4GB, that would be a total of about 77 Terabytes. However I'm pretty sure the E5-2680 supports more than 4GB (even when run in 32 bit mode, with PAE, you could address a total of 32 GB per node if every core runs a separate thread (which is very likely since your program will likely run on more than 8 cores [else, why bother to use that supercomputer anyway] and thus cannot be completely mutlithreaded; adding separate multithreading and multiprocessing layers would only add needless complexity).
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So what is going on? Why haven’t the computer gods delivered? This state of affairs has persisted in the face of colossal increases in available computational power.
Math is hard!
My first reading of the article:
"1.6-GHz POWER BBQ chips."
Well, that is some fast barbecue.
What is the most powerful 1 processor machine?
There are problems that many processors can't handle as well as single processors, so I was wondering what is the KingKong of processors.
Some problems are inherently best handled by many processors (weather, seismic analysis, 3D processing, keeping websites up when having DOS attacks, come to mind) so the many little processors are great. Still I admire the large processor that can crunch more than anything else.
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The traces in the chips are 2.5 atoms thick, the distance between traces is 22nm for the most modern production technique, there is some room for squeezing it down a bit more, but there aren't many more significant drops in size that can be made.
GPGPU has a long way to go to be flexible enough for general purpose work.
Besides the real push needs to be the push for less power per op, at 1GF/watt, exaflops are a problem.
Did someone really just make another "this is all the power we will ever need" claim?
Somebody didn't get the joke.