> The pascal branch seems to die out around 1996ish. I remember using it in 2nd year programming as a teaching language. That was in 1995.
The chart shows that the Pascal heritage is partially preserved in Ada, last standard released in '95, new '0x standard in progress.
> What do schools use now as the teaching language? Surely not C. I have nothing against it but it isn't for beginners.
Unfortunately, schools tend to cater to industry's flavor of the month, switching to a language about the time it will be declasse when the students graduate.
Pascal --> C --> C++ --> Java --> ???
IMO they should choose something very simple, to emphasize the basics and self-discipline, rather than the syntax.
This curmudgeon wouldn't even teach OOP until the second half of the second year, after a semester of abstract data types.
We've got far to many "programmers" who can make something compile, but can't write a sensible solution to a specific problem when they get a job.
> Years later, the real killer came forward. After re-investigating, they found the witness was a screwball AND didn't see anything, and a lot of other stuff that had gone wrong. They eventually let him go with no pay or anything. Meanwhile, the guy had spent like a decade in jail.
And that's why I'm against the death penalty. I do feel like certain crimes merit it, but I don't think our "justice" system bats very high at getting the correct culprit.
> You have to wonder about these supposed shrinks that analyze handwiriting and what-not. I'm not saying it doesn't work, but in this case I think a bunch of them were quacks that just wanted their name in teh paper.
I wouldn't trust any paid expert witness, due to the glaring risk of conflict of interest.
If a case needs an expert, let the cour subpoena someone with the relevant expertise, just like they do ordinary witnesses.
> the british museum's dating was patheticly incompetent, failing to account for the role of accumulating bioplastic coating on the fibers
Analysis of that claim showed that there would have had to have been more contamination than cloth, to get the claimed dating error.
Also... would you like to go with the bioplastic claim, or the new claim? Or would you like to stick with both and claim that the patches were 1st C too, and misdated due to bioplastic contamination?
Maybe the new claim is true, and the shroud really is old. Who knows, without a True Sample to test. Meanwhile, there's always an "explanation" for true beleivers... "the light was vertically polarized"... "his hands can cover his groin because his upper body was propped up at an angle"... "they put the Sudarium over his head while he was still on the cross, and then took it off and put the Shroud over him"...
You may as well try to convince a Sumerian that his idols aren't gods.
> given that it is the only proposed physical artifact of a pivotal event in human history
Actually, it's merely one of about a zillion "proposed" physical artifacts. For some strange reason certain people freely acknowledge that the others are fakes, but insist that This One is real.
> Whoever this shroud was on, they weren't wrapped like a mummy. They were placed on top of the lower part, and the upper part was wrapped over their head and draped on top of them like a sheet.
Which means when you take it off and lay it flat you should see the sides of the head as well as the front. The front and back images should differ greatly in width, since the front of the cloth would drape over the figure, but the back would lie flat.
Get a friend, a sheet, a marker, and try it.
You might also pause to wonder why the facial features are rendered with light and dark to show its 3D structure.
> What about the genitalia? If the face image is preserved, why not the genitalia.
Apparently even dead people are ashamed of their unmentionables. So much so that they cover themselves with their hands, even underneath their shrouds.
> From these words I conclude that any business that lost time/money from Security Holes or Bugs in Windows they can go to Microsoft and present a bill which Microsoft will gladly pay.
I wonder if a business could invoke these words and similar drek from other MS execs in a lawsuit.
> I'm starting to get really annoyed with Open Source people patting themselves on the back over security when stuff like that last thing where the people tried to get someone responsible for Linux kernel development to accept a security related patch, and ended up having to get an article on Slashdot before it happened.
Hey - maybe if Slashdot carried an article about Windows security problems now and then, they would get fixed too!
> > Do you doubt the extraordinary spike in greenhouse gasses since the beginning of the industrial revolution?
> Please provide a reference that describes the *source(s)* of pre-industrial revolution measurements. Who was measuring greenhouse gasses then and why? What was the nature of the instrumentation used to make the measurements and good/accurate was it?
> Without reliable pre-industrial revolution data, the "spike" is meaningless. Ditto for temperature measurements. They call it GLOBAL warming. How good was the instrumentation in undeveloped countries 100 years ago? How dilligent were the measurement takers? If 100-year-old data from technologically backward regions around the world is part of the model, the model is irreparably flawed.
Please get informed before you rant. The source of the data is ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica, not Neanderthal thermometers. Here, for example, is a graph of CO2 vs. time, one of many graphs you can find by spending a few minutes with Google.
> I don't understand the folks saying that 18 months is "too much". Just how do you expect us to deter these little bastards at all if not with harsh sentencing? It's hard enough to catch them as it is, but if there are no penalties (or light ones, like this) then they have no reason not to keep doing it.
Doesn't the same logic apply to people who run insecure systems?
> Kids do stupid things. I know I did my fair share of stupid things when I was younger. Now I consider myself a highly moral, good standing citizen of society, with great future prospects. But if I had been put in jail for one of the silly things I did when I was younger, my life today would probably be a disaster, and to society's detriment.
Wow - I can't believe the president posts to Slashdot!
> Let's see, you're claiming what again? That 200 years (at most) of industrial activity influences a planetary system?
Yeah, it's just coincidence that our earth, sea, and sky have suffered huge spikes in pollutants since then, and an even more amazing coincidence that we're getting extinctions, meltdowns, and deep-sea fish contaminated with mercury at the same time.
> And that there are no natural causes that can explain this?
Heck, there might even be supernatural causes that could explain it.
But the questions for scientists is, what is the best explanation.
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> Should the money I pay the government be used for something I want, would use, and enjoy?
Of course not; everyone knows that taxpayer dollars should have gone to corporate coffers instead.
Robot: I'm horny; I think I'll build a new robot.
> A complete Fembot !
Wait 'till they find out how "Bender" really got his name.
Welcome our new robobonkers.
> The pascal branch seems to die out around 1996ish. I remember using it in 2nd year programming as a teaching language. That was in 1995.
The chart shows that the Pascal heritage is partially preserved in Ada, last standard released in '95, new '0x standard in progress.
> What do schools use now as the teaching language? Surely not C. I have nothing against it but it isn't for beginners.
Unfortunately, schools tend to cater to industry's flavor of the month, switching to a language about the time it will be declasse when the students graduate.
Pascal --> C --> C++ --> Java --> ???
IMO they should choose something very simple, to emphasize the basics and self-discipline, rather than the syntax.
This curmudgeon wouldn't even teach OOP until the second half of the second year, after a semester of abstract data types.
We've got far to many "programmers" who can make something compile, but can't write a sensible solution to a specific problem when they get a job.
> Look, I like a good microsoft bashing, just as most of my fellow slashdooters, but don't you think that this is a very cheap shot?
It's not Microsoft bashing, it's Blair bashing gone awry!
> Years later, the real killer came forward. After re-investigating, they found the witness was a screwball AND didn't see anything, and a lot of other stuff that had gone wrong. They eventually let him go with no pay or anything. Meanwhile, the guy had spent like a decade in jail.
And that's why I'm against the death penalty. I do feel like certain crimes merit it, but I don't think our "justice" system bats very high at getting the correct culprit.
> You have to wonder about these supposed shrinks that analyze handwiriting and what-not. I'm not saying it doesn't work, but in this case I think a bunch of them were quacks that just wanted their name in teh paper.
I wouldn't trust any paid expert witness, due to the glaring risk of conflict of interest.
If a case needs an expert, let the cour subpoena someone with the relevant expertise, just like they do ordinary witnesses.
> Please excuse the rant but really - even Jesus himself would mod this story down.
And get the FP every time, dammit.
> the british museum's dating was patheticly incompetent, failing to account for the role of accumulating bioplastic coating on the fibers
Analysis of that claim showed that there would have had to have been more contamination than cloth, to get the claimed dating error.
Also... would you like to go with the bioplastic claim, or the new claim? Or would you like to stick with both and claim that the patches were 1st C too, and misdated due to bioplastic contamination?
Maybe the new claim is true, and the shroud really is old. Who knows, without a True Sample to test. Meanwhile, there's always an "explanation" for true beleivers... "the light was vertically polarized"... "his hands can cover his groin because his upper body was propped up at an angle"... "they put the Sudarium over his head while he was still on the cross, and then took it off and put the Shroud over him"...
You may as well try to convince a Sumerian that his idols aren't gods.
> given that it is the only proposed physical artifact of a pivotal event in human history
Actually, it's merely one of about a zillion "proposed" physical artifacts. For some strange reason certain people freely acknowledge that the others are fakes, but insist that This One is real.
> Whoever this shroud was on, they weren't wrapped like a mummy. They were placed on top of the lower part, and the upper part was wrapped over their head and draped on top of them like a sheet.
Which means when you take it off and lay it flat you should see the sides of the head as well as the front. The front and back images should differ greatly in width, since the front of the cloth would drape over the figure, but the back would lie flat.
Get a friend, a sheet, a marker, and try it.
You might also pause to wonder why the facial features are rendered with light and dark to show its 3D structure.
> What about the genitalia? If the face image is preserved, why not the genitalia.
Apparently even dead people are ashamed of their unmentionables. So much so that they cover themselves with their hands, even underneath their shrouds.
> From these words I conclude that any business that lost time/money from Security Holes or Bugs in Windows they can go to Microsoft and present a bill which Microsoft will gladly pay.
I wonder if a business could invoke these words and similar drek from other MS execs in a lawsuit.
> And Richard Simmons accused Charlton Heston of being "way too gay."
I didn't know Heston was gay. Do you think the NRA will be supportive when they find out?
> I'm starting to get really annoyed with Open Source people patting themselves on the back over security when stuff like that last thing where the people tried to get someone responsible for Linux kernel development to accept a security related patch, and ended up having to get an article on Slashdot before it happened.
Hey - maybe if Slashdot carried an article about Windows security problems now and then, they would get fixed too!
He's just pining for the fnords.
> > Do you doubt the extraordinary spike in greenhouse gasses since the beginning of the industrial revolution?
> Please provide a reference that describes the *source(s)* of pre-industrial revolution measurements. Who was measuring greenhouse gasses then and why? What was the nature of the instrumentation used to make the measurements and good/accurate was it?
> Without reliable pre-industrial revolution data, the "spike" is meaningless. Ditto for temperature measurements. They call it GLOBAL warming. How good was the instrumentation in undeveloped countries 100 years ago? How dilligent were the measurement takers? If 100-year-old data from technologically backward regions around the world is part of the model, the model is irreparably flawed.
Please get informed before you rant. The source of the data is ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica, not Neanderthal thermometers. Here, for example, is a graph of CO2 vs. time, one of many graphs you can find by spending a few minutes with Google.
> Where can I download this monkey porn?
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.milf
Do they spank the monkey as part of the experiment?
> Good thing I always keep my keys wrapped in tinfoil.
I just carry mine under my hat.
Encryption scheme broken... whooda thought it.
But this may be the funniest thing I've ever read on Slashdot:
> They advise wrapping your keys in foil when you're not using them.
> The depth of mercury used in LMTs is usually 0.5-1mm (reference), so it's more like 50-100 tonnes.
Of course, the crater floor would have to be smooth to within that tolerance.
> I don't understand the folks saying that 18 months is "too much". Just how do you expect us to deter these little bastards at all if not with harsh sentencing? It's hard enough to catch them as it is, but if there are no penalties (or light ones, like this) then they have no reason not to keep doing it.
Doesn't the same logic apply to people who run insecure systems?
> Kids do stupid things. I know I did my fair share of stupid things when I was younger. Now I consider myself a highly moral, good standing citizen of society, with great future prospects. But if I had been put in jail for one of the silly things I did when I was younger, my life today would probably be a disaster, and to society's detriment.
Wow - I can't believe the president posts to Slashdot!
> Let's see, you're claiming what again? That 200 years (at most) of industrial activity influences a planetary system?
Yeah, it's just coincidence that our earth, sea, and sky have suffered huge spikes in pollutants since then, and an even more amazing coincidence that we're getting extinctions, meltdowns, and deep-sea fish contaminated with mercury at the same time.
> And that there are no natural causes that can explain this?
Heck, there might even be supernatural causes that could explain it.
But the questions for scientists is, what is the best explanation.
> [mediadazzle.com]
Best... argument... ever!