I am sorry but its DMCA. I haven't heard of the DCMA. No offense or anything but after reading this your comments make you sound like you are a little off center. These aren't rational arguments you are making here.
I think you need to reread what this guy says. He is doing this *on pupose* to exclude windows users. There is no other reason of this other than his desire to be an asshole.
I am sure you were one of the loudest people bitching about people sending word attachments. Why can't you be consistent?
Actually I use Pine. The difference is that this guy has found a bug in something and is doing it *on purpose* to exclude somebody. That is a big difference to me.
I love the audacity of this guy playing god and everything and I could see lots of people here snickering but come on. This is ridiculous, do you honestly expect to win over people to open source software with people pulling this crap?
I have never written any software, webpages, etc... to exclude a subset of my potential users. To me this is incredibly arrogant and downright snobby.
Actually the situation this guy describes is the whole machine is going to have to go down due to power loss. Why wouldn't you want to save the state of the whole machine?
Actually I think hibernate or suspend would work quite nicely for this chap. His whole machine was going down not just the process. Why wouldn't you want to save the state of the whole machine when power failure is imminent?
Windows XP has 2 features that are improved over Windows 2000 they are called suspend and hibernate. Suspend is a low power standby mode but it keeps all of your applications up and running when you come back. Hibernate actually saves everything to disk and shuts the computer all the way off. When you come back everything you are working on is there.
"Looks to me like WMA8 got beat by pretty much everything... But hey, what good is statistical analysis anyways..."
If you just don't like the fact that WMA is made by Microsoft then why did you reply to me? Why don't you reply to the parent of the thread who is moderated at +5?
Statistically you are right, there is nothing significant about this particular test. But this guys analysis is all wrong. Just on raw data WMA8 wins on two tests, you can't dispute that, so to say that WMA8 got beat by pretty much everything is a lie. Hence my reply.
Now to say that WMA8 is certainly not the best codec at 128 kbps isn't exactly true either. You don't know that, and these three tests aren't enough to come to that conclusion, yet you still came to it which is interesting . . .
Actually if you read the results WMA8 performed the best according to the listeners in two of three tests. Why don't you learn how to read instead of posting something that's plainly wrong. Go take a look at the results again.
Thanks for a rational response. Thats a first for me here!
Power point is definitely a different story, access being another notable program that became incompatible. Word however doesn't belong with those.
Thats a pretty hypothetical situation and I personally haven't run into that scenario, but then I don't really send that many word docs. My point is only that I disagree with someone else playing software nazi saying what software I should or shouldn't use, or in this case how I should send my email. Its my choice and my freedom to do what I will.
But just to answer your question yeah I would try to get the format changed so they could read it. There is no reason you shouldn't be able to read a word doc other than that scenario you mentioned. The technology is there for pretty much every platform.
To compare software makers to Hitler is completely ridiculous. So who is Churchill and who is Stalin? IBM = Churchill, and Apple/Redhat = Stalin. I might remind you of the crimes against humanity that Stalin committed. One would have a good argument that Stalin was even worse than Hitler.
If the school districts are poor why on Earth would they want to buy a Macintosh. Soon their cheapest computers will be 1200 dollars. Far more than a low end PC.
Well first of all the Word format hasn't changed a great deal since 97. There is no problem in viewing a Word XP file in 97 to my knowledge (I havent run into a problem personally yet)
But if I did get a question like that I would point that person to the free word viewer and even help them install that.
See thats your world view. Not mine. Guess what no email client that I know of reads Word attachments natively. Have you ever received an attachment before? Let me explain to you how this new fangled technology works.
Say I send you an email with a word attachment. You don't use pine to read the attachment you would use another application. You would then need another program to open up that attachment. Since you mention you are using pine and mutt I will assume you are on a unix based platform. Their are freely available word viewers on this platform. Check out AbiWord, KWord, Open Office and Star Office. Alot of these do a pretty good job at opening them up.
Saying that you can't read a Word document on *nix is completely untrue and an outright lie. I suspect you don't like.Doc because it was created with Word and moreover a format created by Microsoft. Again, not a very good reason. Get over yourself and stop being a software Nazi.
If you need any more basic computer help please feel free to let me know. I am here to help poor souls like yourself. I would also recommend a couple books that you can find in any major book store. Look under the "For Dummies" section.
A BA in English? Really were they just handing those out one day at Jack in the Box and you decided to pick one up?
You said:
Asking that no one dare bring the topic up because it disagrees with your world-view and because you happen to think that everyone should just conform and use YOUR choice is unreasonable.
You are asking that I change something that I normally do because it doesn't match up with your world-view of everyone sending html or doc.foo's . Asking me to do something specifically for you is unreasonable and I wont do it.
Sorry bud but you just don't make much sense. For an analogy sense that seems to be popular with the open source crowd its like everybody plays basketball with basketballs. Then you come along and want to play basketball with footballs instead. Something just aint clicking upstairs is it?
The difference here is you don't own the software. You own the right to use the software. Kind of like an airline ticket. You have a right to use the airplane if you buy a ticket. But that doesn't mean you get to take apart the airplane to learn how it flies.
I totally agree with your last sentence. Why dont you follow your own advice?
But since you dont seem to know what elitism is I will help you out:
elitism or élitism (-ltzm, -l-)
n.
The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
So I am right on with my assessment of RMS. He wants favored treatment i.e. people to not use word attachments by virtue of his perceived superiority, intellect, social status, or financial resources of open source software. Why should I change the way I do things just to satisfy RMS?
Here's a hint. I am not.
As for your comment about mastering the english language, my mom teaches pre-k, and I make no promises, but maybe if you could talk her into working with you maybe in a couple of years you could better your language skills. Again no promises.
I would argue that RMS is a fanatic. He has no tolerance for anything proprietary. This is elitism. Expecting the world to do something you want them to do is fanatical. I sure didn't vote RMS to be the king of the world so in my view RMS is in fact full of shit.
Expecting everyone to use Open Source software isn't exactly letting users be free. In fact you are infringing on their freedom.
So stop being software nazis and let people use what they will.
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I am sorry but its DMCA. I haven't heard of the DCMA. No offense or anything but after reading this your comments make you sound like you are a little off center. These aren't rational arguments you are making here.
What's next a Micro$oft.Slashdot.org???
Totally agree with you bud. But I have a feeling this will get modded down worse as well.
I think you need to reread what this guy says. He is doing this *on pupose* to exclude windows users. There is no other reason of this other than his desire to be an asshole.
I am sure you were one of the loudest people bitching about people sending word attachments. Why can't you be consistent?
Read what he says.
Actually I use Pine. The difference is that this guy has found a bug in something and is doing it *on purpose* to exclude somebody. That is a big difference to me.
I love the audacity of this guy playing god and everything and I could see lots of people here snickering but come on. This is ridiculous, do you honestly expect to win over people to open source software with people pulling this crap?
I have never written any software, webpages, etc... to exclude a subset of my potential users. To me this is incredibly arrogant and downright snobby.
Actually it works great for me on Windows XP. I think the feature is much improved in XP. I don't run Norton so no problems here. . .
Actually the situation this guy describes is the whole machine is going to have to go down due to power loss. Why wouldn't you want to save the state of the whole machine?
Actually I think hibernate or suspend would work quite nicely for this chap. His whole machine was going down not just the process. Why wouldn't you want to save the state of the whole machine when power failure is imminent?
Windows XP has 2 features that are improved over Windows 2000 they are called suspend and hibernate. Suspend is a low power standby mode but it keeps all of your applications up and running when you come back. Hibernate actually saves everything to disk and shuts the computer all the way off. When you come back everything you are working on is there.
Good luck.
Not rubbish, read what I am replying to.
"Looks to me like WMA8 got beat by pretty much everything... But hey, what good is statistical analysis anyways..."
If you just don't like the fact that WMA is made by Microsoft then why did you reply to me? Why don't you reply to the parent of the thread who is moderated at +5?
Statistically you are right, there is nothing significant about this particular test. But this guys analysis is all wrong. Just on raw data WMA8 wins on two tests, you can't dispute that, so to say that WMA8 got beat by pretty much everything is a lie. Hence my reply.
Now to say that WMA8 is certainly not the best codec at 128 kbps isn't exactly true either. You don't know that, and these three tests aren't enough to come to that conclusion, yet you still came to it which is interesting . . .
Actually if you read the results WMA8 performed the best according to the listeners in two of three tests. Why don't you learn how to read instead of posting something that's plainly wrong. Go take a look at the results again.
Please mod this post up someone. I read this thread and totally agree. Jaime you are a prick.
Thanks for a rational response. Thats a first for me here!
Power point is definitely a different story, access being another notable program that became incompatible. Word however doesn't belong with those.
Thats a pretty hypothetical situation and I personally haven't run into that scenario, but then I don't really send that many word docs. My point is only that I disagree with someone else playing software nazi saying what software I should or shouldn't use, or in this case how I should send my email. Its my choice and my freedom to do what I will.
But just to answer your question yeah I would try to get the format changed so they could read it. There is no reason you shouldn't be able to read a word doc other than that scenario you mentioned. The technology is there for pretty much every platform.
To compare software makers to Hitler is completely ridiculous. So who is Churchill and who is Stalin? IBM = Churchill, and Apple/Redhat = Stalin. I might remind you of the crimes against humanity that Stalin committed. One would have a good argument that Stalin was even worse than Hitler.
If the school districts are poor why on Earth would they want to buy a Macintosh. Soon their cheapest computers will be 1200 dollars. Far more than a low end PC.
This would be fiscally irresponsible.
Well first of all the Word format hasn't changed a great deal since 97. There is no problem in viewing a Word XP file in 97 to my knowledge (I havent run into a problem personally yet)
But if I did get a question like that I would point that person to the free word viewer and even help them install that.
Hey Sodablue, this Polar Bear guy is a total ass. Glad to see another fellow ActiveWinner here.
Keep up the good fight.
Read my posts above yours to polarbear its a pretty good laugh.
See thats your world view. Not mine. Guess what no email client that I know of reads Word attachments natively. Have you ever received an attachment before? Let me explain to you how this new fangled technology works.
.Doc because it was created with Word and moreover a format created by Microsoft. Again, not a very good reason. Get over yourself and stop being a software Nazi.
Say I send you an email with a word attachment. You don't use pine to read the attachment you would use another application. You would then need another program to open up that attachment. Since you mention you are using pine and mutt I will assume you are on a unix based platform. Their are freely available word viewers on this platform. Check out AbiWord, KWord, Open Office and Star Office. Alot of these do a pretty good job at opening them up.
Saying that you can't read a Word document on *nix is completely untrue and an outright lie. I suspect you don't like
If you need any more basic computer help please feel free to let me know. I am here to help poor souls like yourself. I would also recommend a couple books that you can find in any major book store. Look under the "For Dummies" section.
A BA in English? Really were they just handing those out one day at Jack in the Box and you decided to pick one up?
You said:
Asking that no one dare bring the topic up because it disagrees with your world-view and because you happen to think that everyone should just conform and use YOUR choice is unreasonable.
You are asking that I change something that I normally do because it doesn't match up with your world-view of everyone sending html or doc.foo's . Asking me to do something specifically for you is unreasonable and I wont do it.
Sorry bud but you just don't make much sense. For an analogy sense that seems to be popular with the open source crowd its like everybody plays basketball with basketballs. Then you come along and want to play basketball with footballs instead. Something just aint clicking upstairs is it?
The difference here is you don't own the software. You own the right to use the software. Kind of like an airline ticket. You have a right to use the airplane if you buy a ticket. But that doesn't mean you get to take apart the airplane to learn how it flies.
See?
I totally agree with your last sentence. Why dont you follow your own advice?
But since you dont seem to know what elitism is I will help you out:
elitism or élitism (-ltzm, -l-)
n.
The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
So I am right on with my assessment of RMS. He wants favored treatment i.e. people to not use word attachments by virtue of his perceived superiority, intellect, social status, or financial resources of open source software. Why should I change the way I do things just to satisfy RMS?
Here's a hint. I am not.
As for your comment about mastering the english language, my mom teaches pre-k, and I make no promises, but maybe if you could talk her into working with you maybe in a couple of years you could better your language skills. Again no promises.
I would argue that RMS is a fanatic. He has no tolerance for anything proprietary. This is elitism. Expecting the world to do something you want them to do is fanatical. I sure didn't vote RMS to be the king of the world so in my view RMS is in fact full of shit.
Expecting everyone to use Open Source software isn't exactly letting users be free. In fact you are infringing on their freedom.
So stop being software nazis and let people use what they will.
Can you believe this guys running 2000 Pro on a p120 laptop???
"The Laptop is an old Pentium 120 laptop, 80 Meg. Ram, running Windows 2000 Pro"
And further he states that it runs quite well. What happened to bloatware???
What are these mind bullets you speak of and why do you want to destroy little children with them?