As I recall and TFS states these Sherlocks managed to wrongly identify at least one person in the Boston bombings and correctly identify none, so good riddance to any further efforts in that direction.
Yep, best security system available for the urban residence. Even a small dog will keep them back, they aren't going to get into a wrestling match with any sort of dog, unless they plan on turning the possibility of having to fire a weapon into the certainty of having to do so.
You know if you capitalise all of the words in your post it will make what you're saying much more compelling.
If you could point to all of the asteroid resources in orbit, that's be great. If not, why would you imagine I'm talking about staying in orbit? I mean really, even for someone as determined to shriek until the bad facts go away as yourself, that's a bit much in terms of cognitive dissonance.
The ISS, as poor an example as it is, still represents progress. And there's no reason to believe that progress need stop with the ISS. However as we're talking in hypotheticals here my guess and expectation is that history will not agree with your hysteria.
Regarding your other post, the low levels of nitrogen in that kind of asteroid is why you don't just extract nitrogen from them, but oxygen and metals simultaneously. If you wanted to go on a purely nitrogen run you'd just hit up an icy body...
Oh yes and those icy bodies are an enormous source of volatiles which can be readily transformed into rocket fuel and a wide variety of other substances for half nothing.
Really, you haven't a leg to stand on here, and I'm not trying to convince you of anything. This information is being made available for others reading the discussion.
I see you responded to every comment except the one that actually answered your question, despite having undoubtedly read it. This link will tell you all you need to know.
And hey, when you combine that with maglaunch it actually becomes more cost effectiove to pull the stuff out of the sky, taking into account externalities like environmental damage and pollution. All of the raw materials are up there in far more than trace amounts. To respond to your other comment, phosphorus? Scientists believe that most of the earth's supply came from asteroids in the first place:
Thing about the earth is, it's basically a big ball of rock floating among a bunch of other balls and lumps of rock which all formed around the same time and are made of the same stuff. Not always in the same proportions but you can find what you're looking for easily enough and tear it out with nukes if you want to because there's nothing up there to care. Solar furnaces are a better option of course.
"There's an abundance of everything we need in space"
1)If that were true, how come we need to bring everything?
Yes, because European colonists in the new world went forth boldly into the wilderness stark bollock naked, preferring to gnaw their tools from the deadfalls and cliffs they encountered. It takes time to set things up, but once you're set up you have an abundance in virgin territory. The tools are different but the principle is the same.
2)Space is a dead vacuum, with a few rocks here and there separated by light hours of nothing. If that's "abundant" to you, can I send you there one way?
Doesn't matter how far away the resources are as long as you have a steady supply line. Although in terms of the time it will take to get there, they aren't that far away at all. One such resource is the asteroid Eros.
Oh gosh, more base and precious metals than have ever or could ever be mined from the surface of the earth you say, and a giant natural furnace at your back to help extract and refine them, without ever having to care about environmental issues? I can see why nobody would be interested in doing that, or even call it abundance.
And that's just one rock. There are millions of them.
There's an abundance of everything we need in space, although I can see stations being a far more convenient platform for future exploration than planetary colonisation. Even the best candidate, Mars, is terrible - where it's warm there is no water, where there's water it's in the -30s at least, an atmosphere as close to vacuum as makes no odds and while it does have gravity I doubt it's enough to stop bone weakening.
Venus now, if we could fix the atmospherre there it could be earth 2 pretty easily. And I suppose add water.
But really for the short to mid term I can't see many valid reasons beyond science that we'd want to colonise nearby worlds. Ultimately I guess we'll be producing most of our food and manufactured goods on space stations, earth will be the place where people live, with much of it returned to virgin wilderness.
What isolationism, the EU is giving aid to North African countries if they enact reforms under the good neighbour policy. The EU is notably not pursuing a war on drugs which is throwing those countries into turmoil, unlike what the US does to Mexico.
these muslim countries don't want freedom and democracy they want Ayatollah's and dictators.
Yeah great, and when they want and get freedom and democracy the US overthrows their governments and installs dictators like they did to Iran. Leave Iran alone and let the people deal with the Ayatollahs. Every threat to the country only makes the dictators stronger. The bottom line is the US, Russia, and lately the Chinese have been fucking with the middle east on an industrial scale for generations. My guess is it will end with Iran taking over most of the surrounding countries and forming a new power bloc, which these three countries will do everything possible to prevent, but which will probably work out for the best for everyone except the powermongers who deal in blood.
It only takes one technically competent user with a chip on their shoulder, or who believes they are sticking it to the man/men not living in their parents' basement at age 42, or thinks one dollar is too high, and it's out on the torrents. This is without even considering others who will crack software and install malware because a botnet actually brings in money for them. So thanks much to all the pirated software dowloaders, you're part of why the internet is a spammy sewer and sites can be held hostage by DDOSes.
What, you thought all or even the majority of the zombies came from people clicking email attachments?
Cultural tensions me balls, they're on the opposite sides of the world from one another. There's no common ground for cultural friction to take place. During the cold war, the middle east was a proxy playground between Russia and the US, now it's a proxy playground between Russia, the US, and China. The fact that there are strategic resources in the area is just icing on the cake.
If you want to fly cheap don't expect a red carpet. I've flown Ryanair many times and have never had a problem, mainly because I keep well within their regulations, which I do because I like flying cheap.
ROTFL. There's an large cultural difference between people born just after WWII and those just before, and that's less than ten years. Things change faster than that. I got the tail end of nuclear war hysteria; my younger co-workers grew up largely in a world without a Soviet Union. Things like that make a difference.
You do know that LOL and ROTFL originated in the early to mid 80s on BBSes right, when most so-called Gen Xers were still figuring out the finer points of how to read? As did L33T SP33K. To say nothing of the fact that you'll have more in common culturally with any US citizen than with say a Finnish or English person. Fakey made up boundaries and useless distinctions applied to people who at the outside left college a few years before you started it. I'm not talking about people born in the 1940s here mind you, more like the 1970s. Go much further back and you will start to see a few differences. Not enough to justify any form of differentiated behaviour thiough.
A generation is 30 years. Gen X, Y, and probably Z are all part of the same generation. If you're 40 today, the next generation is 10 years old and so unlikely to be one of your co-workers. There are basically zero cultural differences due to age between people in the same job in the tech industry, other than some sort of artificial picket fence manufactured by marketing to sell t-shirts to teenagers who haven't figured it out yet.
You need to educate yourself on HVDC. The longest HVDC link in the world is currently the Xiangjiaba–Shanghai line at 2,071 km, and it can get a lot longer with minimal power losses.
VCs don't care if a business fails, or even if it had any chance of success in the first place. All they want to do is get in, pump it up, then get out while scooping the cream off the top, just before the whole thing falls over. They love cheerleaders because they increase the value of a company without costing a cent.
Information wants to be free, man. Seriously though this is par for the course in business. The only unusual thing is that they got caught and the courts are taking the claims seriously. Low hanging, fat, and easy, just the way the justice system likes 'em.
Sad but true my friend,/. used to be all about pushing the boundaries, new discoveries and so on but it's hits++ for political/my favourite corporate team/oh god I've just hit 40 bullshit and so the braintrust diminishes.
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As I recall and TFS states these Sherlocks managed to wrongly identify at least one person in the Boston bombings and correctly identify none, so good riddance to any further efforts in that direction.
So has the rate of violent crime in schools:
http://curry.virginia.edu/research/projects/violence-in-schools/school-violence-myths
Yep, best security system available for the urban residence. Even a small dog will keep them back, they aren't going to get into a wrestling match with any sort of dog, unless they plan on turning the possibility of having to fire a weapon into the certainty of having to do so.
I'd imagine you get something that looks a bit like a pink comet.
You know if you capitalise all of the words in your post it will make what you're saying much more compelling.
If you could point to all of the asteroid resources in orbit, that's be great. If not, why would you imagine I'm talking about staying in orbit? I mean really, even for someone as determined to shriek until the bad facts go away as yourself, that's a bit much in terms of cognitive dissonance.
The ISS, as poor an example as it is, still represents progress. And there's no reason to believe that progress need stop with the ISS. However as we're talking in hypotheticals here my guess and expectation is that history will not agree with your hysteria.
Regarding your other post, the low levels of nitrogen in that kind of asteroid is why you don't just extract nitrogen from them, but oxygen and metals simultaneously. If you wanted to go on a purely nitrogen run you'd just hit up an icy body...
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1991ApJ...367..641W
Oh yes and those icy bodies are an enormous source of volatiles which can be readily transformed into rocket fuel and a wide variety of other substances for half nothing.
Really, you haven't a leg to stand on here, and I'm not trying to convince you of anything. This information is being made available for others reading the discussion.
I see you responded to every comment except the one that actually answered your question, despite having undoubtedly read it. This link will tell you all you need to know.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sci/tech/401227.stm
And hey, when you combine that with maglaunch it actually becomes more cost effectiove to pull the stuff out of the sky, taking into account externalities like environmental damage and pollution. All of the raw materials are up there in far more than trace amounts. To respond to your other comment, phosphorus? Scientists believe that most of the earth's supply came from asteroids in the first place:
http://www.astrobio.net/exclusive/1155/meteorites-donated-lifes-phosphorus
Nitrogen? It's right up there:
http://www.ibiblio.org/lunar/minecarb.html
Potassium? The moon is rotten with the stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_differentiation#Moon.27s_KREEP
Thing about the earth is, it's basically a big ball of rock floating among a bunch of other balls and lumps of rock which all formed around the same time and are made of the same stuff. Not always in the same proportions but you can find what you're looking for easily enough and tear it out with nukes if you want to because there's nothing up there to care. Solar furnaces are a better option of course.
So, yeah, anyway, I'll leave you to it.
Never heard of maglaunch eh? :D
Anyway I'll stop feeding the troll now, although it was a useful opportunity to get the knowledge out there, playtime is over.
"There's an abundance of everything we need in space"
1)If that were true, how come we need to bring everything?
Yes, because European colonists in the new world went forth boldly into the wilderness stark bollock naked, preferring to gnaw their tools from the deadfalls and cliffs they encountered. It takes time to set things up, but once you're set up you have an abundance in virgin territory. The tools are different but the principle is the same.
2)Space is a dead vacuum, with a few rocks here and there separated by light hours of nothing. If that's "abundant" to you, can I send you there one way?
Doesn't matter how far away the resources are as long as you have a steady supply line. Although in terms of the time it will take to get there, they aren't that far away at all. One such resource is the asteroid Eros.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sci/tech/401227.stm
Oh gosh, more base and precious metals than have ever or could ever be mined from the surface of the earth you say, and a giant natural furnace at your back to help extract and refine them, without ever having to care about environmental issues? I can see why nobody would be interested in doing that, or even call it abundance.
And that's just one rock. There are millions of them.
Why not make it?
http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.ie/2007/11/314-peak-oil-and-fertilizer-no-problem.html
There's an abundance of everything we need in space, although I can see stations being a far more convenient platform for future exploration than planetary colonisation. Even the best candidate, Mars, is terrible - where it's warm there is no water, where there's water it's in the -30s at least, an atmosphere as close to vacuum as makes no odds and while it does have gravity I doubt it's enough to stop bone weakening.
Venus now, if we could fix the atmospherre there it could be earth 2 pretty easily. And I suppose add water.
But really for the short to mid term I can't see many valid reasons beyond science that we'd want to colonise nearby worlds. Ultimately I guess we'll be producing most of our food and manufactured goods on space stations, earth will be the place where people live, with much of it returned to virgin wilderness.
What isolationism, the EU is giving aid to North African countries if they enact reforms under the good neighbour policy. The EU is notably not pursuing a war on drugs which is throwing those countries into turmoil, unlike what the US does to Mexico.
these muslim countries don't want freedom and democracy they want Ayatollah's and dictators.
Yeah great, and when they want and get freedom and democracy the US overthrows their governments and installs dictators like they did to Iran. Leave Iran alone and let the people deal with the Ayatollahs. Every threat to the country only makes the dictators stronger. The bottom line is the US, Russia, and lately the Chinese have been fucking with the middle east on an industrial scale for generations. My guess is it will end with Iran taking over most of the surrounding countries and forming a new power bloc, which these three countries will do everything possible to prevent, but which will probably work out for the best for everyone except the powermongers who deal in blood.
That's because they deal in dogma and sell certainty. Can't be a confidence trickster without plenty of confidence.
It only takes one technically competent user with a chip on their shoulder, or who believes they are sticking it to the man/men not living in their parents' basement at age 42, or thinks one dollar is too high, and it's out on the torrents. This is without even considering others who will crack software and install malware because a botnet actually brings in money for them. So thanks much to all the pirated software dowloaders, you're part of why the internet is a spammy sewer and sites can be held hostage by DDOSes.
What, you thought all or even the majority of the zombies came from people clicking email attachments?
Cultural tensions me balls, they're on the opposite sides of the world from one another. There's no common ground for cultural friction to take place. During the cold war, the middle east was a proxy playground between Russia and the US, now it's a proxy playground between Russia, the US, and China. The fact that there are strategic resources in the area is just icing on the cake.
If you want to fly cheap don't expect a red carpet. I've flown Ryanair many times and have never had a problem, mainly because I keep well within their regulations, which I do because I like flying cheap.
ROTFL. There's an large cultural difference between people born just after WWII and those just before, and that's less than ten years. Things change faster than that. I got the tail end of nuclear war hysteria; my younger co-workers grew up largely in a world without a Soviet Union. Things like that make a difference.
You do know that LOL and ROTFL originated in the early to mid 80s on BBSes right, when most so-called Gen Xers were still figuring out the finer points of how to read? As did L33T SP33K. To say nothing of the fact that you'll have more in common culturally with any US citizen than with say a Finnish or English person. Fakey made up boundaries and useless distinctions applied to people who at the outside left college a few years before you started it. I'm not talking about people born in the 1940s here mind you, more like the 1970s. Go much further back and you will start to see a few differences. Not enough to justify any form of differentiated behaviour thiough.
A generation is 30 years. Gen X, Y, and probably Z are all part of the same generation. If you're 40 today, the next generation is 10 years old and so unlikely to be one of your co-workers. There are basically zero cultural differences due to age between people in the same job in the tech industry, other than some sort of artificial picket fence manufactured by marketing to sell t-shirts to teenagers who haven't figured it out yet.
It's all in your mind, get over it.
Education is not an equalizer. It doesn't promote social mobility.
It does if you live in a country where third level education is mostly paid for by the government.
You need to educate yourself on HVDC. The longest HVDC link in the world is currently the Xiangjiaba–Shanghai line at 2,071 km, and it can get a lot longer with minimal power losses.
High Voltage DC will transmit power over huge distances with very little loss. It's already in use all over Europe.
VCs don't care if a business fails, or even if it had any chance of success in the first place. All they want to do is get in, pump it up, then get out while scooping the cream off the top, just before the whole thing falls over. They love cheerleaders because they increase the value of a company without costing a cent.
Information wants to be free, man. Seriously though this is par for the course in business. The only unusual thing is that they got caught and the courts are taking the claims seriously. Low hanging, fat, and easy, just the way the justice system likes 'em.
The first rule of dealing with medieval absolute monarchs is... ...don't insult medieval absolute monarchs.
Sad but true my friend, /. used to be all about pushing the boundaries, new discoveries and so on but it's hits++ for political/my favourite corporate team/oh god I've just hit 40 bullshit and so the braintrust diminishes.
For a tenth as much I could pay a copyist to produce a better version.