Lonely planet and a huge raft of other middleman websites are going to be pushed out in the process though. Hotel portals, tourism portals, review sites, gone.
It doesn't make any sense though, professional media manipulators don't register stuff in their target's name. Media manipulators are public relations people, the nearest thing to what these investigators are talking about are astroturfers like MS used to let loose on slashdot. What possible advantage would there be to set up accounts as trivially easy to prove as fake like this? The whole thing smells a bit off.
The funniest part about this is where they deduce your intelligence. Really microsoft, the finest minds on earth have yet to come up with a satisfactory definition of the term, yet your goons are going to magicalgorithm the concept into your search results?
The Stargate series still gets plenty of airtime. Star Trek even, B5, Firefly, even Farscape to a certain extent. Battleship, only recently released, is pure Saturday morning pulp. There's a lot more cheery stuff out there than otherwise. And please, if you want to talk about BSG being in the past you may as well talk about Star Wars being in the past as well. Incidentally why did Adama have a Luger on his wall? Subliminal neonazi messages? I didn't like that show, it could have been awesome but just descended into religious-military wank.
Have you got figures or sources to support your assertion on fundamentalist religions? Also I'd like to mention that the US isn't all of, or even the majority of, western culture.
It replaces the unbridled imagination and curiosity of young minds--which fiction reinforces--with an erroneous understanding of what modern science actually is.
Absolutely this. Imagination is a key component of science in all its shapes and forms.
with much of western society turning back to Dark Ages-style fundamentalist religion.
What? No it hasn't. A small but noisy part of US society has gotten more vocal about its beliefs, but the rest of western society is doing just fine thanks. I think Neal is way off base in his asessment though, the vast majority of mainstream sci-fi is still two fisted light optimistic Saturday morning pulp, thankfully. The only real exception would have been BSG, and I don't think history will look kindly on that series.
Any community large enough to need significant amounts of these would be much better served by desal plants though. I find it hard to imagine a case where vast quantities of these things would have to be built, certainly nowhere near enough to have a significant environmental impact.
I'd say once you start factoring in the cost of pipelines and pumps from the coast it gets a lot closer to parity, especially when you're talking about many remote and dispersed communities. With this tech you just drop a unit anywhere and there's your water.
Everything from about 33m down to the ground and from 35m up to space would retain all of its moisture, so an extremely small amount of moisture even if it was a solid sheet of condensers stretching all across the arid area. People just don't get how friggin HUGE the earth is.
so it would have to be running ~150 years to equal that kind of throughput. With that said there are plenty of places it would be useful which are not accessable to desal tech without major infrastructure investment, so I can see value, while it's not the answer to all questions on fresh water.
Well since wind turbines are a grand per kilowatt to install, lets say $50,000 install costs for 500 to 1000L per day, with reasonable maintenance. How long would it take to pay for itself at current desal costs, since over the first year it comes to 27 cents a liter?
I'd say it has about as much effect as wind turbines do on the wind, ie not much. Its only sucking moisture out of a very, very tiny level of the atmosphere, and only a very tiny cross-section of that. They just won't have any appreciable effect, no matter how many of them you install.
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Is this an example of the system working though? Mildly corrupt rules meet legal challenge, get changed.
I got to say, it sounds extremely odd that there were no more eyes.
I don't know, it sounds quite Plausible to me.
And just like that, the thread was full of win.
Look up desertec. Its good stuff.
This is so cool. Every day brings us closer to glowy alien crystal energy technology.
Lonely planet and a huge raft of other middleman websites are going to be pushed out in the process though. Hotel portals, tourism portals, review sites, gone.
Wicked echo on the voiceover there, can you record that stuff in front of a curtain, or hang cloth over the walls or something. Its the little things.
But yeah this looks like a lot of fun.
Well, for now. If more major resources are found in Scottish waters I can definetely see the independence movement getting a big lift from it.
Surely you mean Scotland? :D Are these in Scottish waters or English?
Iran not only constructs its own drones, it manufactures its own jet fighters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghods_Ababil
It doesn't make any sense though, professional media manipulators don't register stuff in their target's name. Media manipulators are public relations people, the nearest thing to what these investigators are talking about are astroturfers like MS used to let loose on slashdot. What possible advantage would there be to set up accounts as trivially easy to prove as fake like this? The whole thing smells a bit off.
The funniest part about this is where they deduce your intelligence. Really microsoft, the finest minds on earth have yet to come up with a satisfactory definition of the term, yet your goons are going to magicalgorithm the concept into your search results?
Take a look at startram.com.
You forgot to kick someone in the chest.
So carriers that don't bring people to the US are exempt? Like say Ryanair?
The Stargate series still gets plenty of airtime. Star Trek even, B5, Firefly, even Farscape to a certain extent. Battleship, only recently released, is pure Saturday morning pulp. There's a lot more cheery stuff out there than otherwise. And please, if you want to talk about BSG being in the past you may as well talk about Star Wars being in the past as well. Incidentally why did Adama have a Luger on his wall? Subliminal neonazi messages? I didn't like that show, it could have been awesome but just descended into religious-military wank.
Have you got figures or sources to support your assertion on fundamentalist religions? Also I'd like to mention that the US isn't all of, or even the majority of, western culture.
Turn on the news, its all around you.
It replaces the unbridled imagination and curiosity of young minds--which fiction reinforces--with an erroneous understanding of what modern science actually is.
Absolutely this. Imagination is a key component of science in all its shapes and forms.
with much of western society turning back to Dark Ages-style fundamentalist religion.
What? No it hasn't. A small but noisy part of US society has gotten more vocal about its beliefs, but the rest of western society is doing just fine thanks. I think Neal is way off base in his asessment though, the vast majority of mainstream sci-fi is still two fisted light optimistic Saturday morning pulp, thankfully. The only real exception would have been BSG, and I don't think history will look kindly on that series.
Any community large enough to need significant amounts of these would be much better served by desal plants though. I find it hard to imagine a case where vast quantities of these things would have to be built, certainly nowhere near enough to have a significant environmental impact.
I'd say once you start factoring in the cost of pipelines and pumps from the coast it gets a lot closer to parity, especially when you're talking about many remote and dispersed communities. With this tech you just drop a unit anywhere and there's your water.
Everything from about 33m down to the ground and from 35m up to space would retain all of its moisture, so an extremely small amount of moisture even if it was a solid sheet of condensers stretching all across the arid area. People just don't get how friggin HUGE the earth is.
Whew quick update - a tenth of a cent per liter would be the target
http://www.canadianclear.com/desalination.html
so it would have to be running ~150 years to equal that kind of throughput. With that said there are plenty of places it would be useful which are not accessable to desal tech without major infrastructure investment, so I can see value, while it's not the answer to all questions on fresh water.
Well since wind turbines are a grand per kilowatt to install, lets say $50,000 install costs for 500 to 1000L per day, with reasonable maintenance. How long would it take to pay for itself at current desal costs, since over the first year it comes to 27 cents a liter?
I'd say it has about as much effect as wind turbines do on the wind, ie not much. Its only sucking moisture out of a very, very tiny level of the atmosphere, and only a very tiny cross-section of that. They just won't have any appreciable effect, no matter how many of them you install.