The program isn't altered in the middle of a game. But it also isn't Kasparov versus a completed chess program thinking for itself. I would go so far as to say the reprogramming during a multiple game match and the evaluation of the opponent by the chess experts is cheating. And really relegates these matches to novelties to be gawked at but not to be considered real.
At the beginning of the tournament, here is what we have:
Human has been able to observe all the public games involving the computer, and learn from them.
Computer has been able to observe all the public games involving the human, and "learn" from them.
After one game played, here is what we have:
Human has been able to observe all the public games involving the computer, including the last one, and learn from them.
Computer has been able to observe all the public games involving the human, including the last one, and "learn" from them.
Whether the computer's method of learning is "real" machine learning or custom programming makes no difference between the situation before the game and the situation after the game. Each opponent has the time and ability to learn from the first game. You don't suppose we could prevent Kasparov from evaluating the machine?
So if you want to say "reprogramming during a multiple game match and the evaluation of the opponent by the chess experts is cheating," then you have to say the same thing about the initial programming in the first place.
BTW, if you have a program that "thinks entirely for itself," I know some other AI researchers that would love to talk to you.
Homer: Hmm. I wonder why he's so eager to go to the garage? Moe: The "garage"? Hey fellas, the "garage"! Well, ooh la di da, Mr. French Man. Homer: Well what do _you_ call it? Moe: A car hole!
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the gameplay consisted of mostly save, enter the room, hit bullet time, shoot, save/reload, repeat.
You ruined it for yourself, by taking any challenge or risk whatsoever out of the game. Try playing a game without reloading when you get hurt or die. Makes it much more interesting.
It was the "topple an entire building" part. I mean, it's a mortar, not an artillery piece. Good for soft skinned targets, generally. Besides you didn't say a real mortar.
Yeah, that was TrekMOO (known as TrekMOO 6, BeyondTrekMOO (BTM), trek.moo.mud.org, among other incarnations).. I played on it around 1997-1998. Before it died, and had another reincarnation, then died finally forever.
My character was Coupland, a feddie.. the ship model was the best I ever saw before or since. Later on I played Among The Stars (ATS) Trek MUSH, which was pretty good. It ended up being a time waster in university so I left after a few years.
If you search for TrekMOO on Google there is some discussion on a yahoo group.. but not much else.
Actually, Microsoft Excel sweeps those cracks every evening, and any loose change it finds is transferred to a secret compartment in your Microsoft Wallet.
Finally, we've got something to nail Billy Gates on! For this. he's not going to some white collar resort prison. No, no, no! He's going to federal POUND ME IN THE ASS prison!
Just a quick pre-emptive reply: I know that id Software ships for Windows, Linux and Mac at the same time, usually (which is great). So they are targeting that part of the market, just not *only* that part. And it doesn't take much effort for them to be cross-platform because that's how they work!
If they had even the slightest flair for the dramatic they would set up a page which tracks the plane's progress in real-time on a map from their satellite telementary system.
If you were around last year, you would know that they do. It's just not up yet, because the plane isn't "up" yet either.
They launched 3 last year, and are launching 4 this year. It would be really stupid to launch them an hour apart -- oops, one storm just took out all of your planes at once.
That's true, but only sometimes. I don't know which is the case here; I was just pointing the possible slip out. The statement caught my eye, and seemed incongruous with the rest of his "government for the people by the people" diatribe.
That said, I've had clients who maxed out to Members of Congress who were actively opposed to the client's legislation because they agreed with his/her social agenda.
The legislation belonging to the client. So much for laws not being bought.. is that a slip of the keyboard or what?
What if you modify GCC for use with a particular project (based on GPL program Foo) in the following way:
When your new GCC reads in the code for Foo, it compiles it incorrectly so that it convenently produces a program with your desired changes. This could be done by constructing a lookup table with original Foo code lines corresponding to modified code lines.
The result: from the original GPL Foo source, you have your own custom binary. Upon distribution of this binary, you are bound by the GPL to give access to the source, i.e. the original GPL Foo source. Since you're not distributing your custom GCC binary, you don't need to give access to its source either.
I'm sorry if I just broke Linux. Tell me if I'm wrong!
This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.
Intellectual child. (bragging snipped) So, as good as you are, look up. You see that giant up there, peeing on your head?
I'm sorry, that's just too funny. Combined with your complete missing of his joke, it's just too much! Peeing on his head! Har har har! Who's the child again?
Or maybe I missed your joke too. Ho ho ho! You sure got me!
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pictures... from different angles, as thousands of people hit it.
I'd hit it!
No, really!
The world chess champion will ALWAYS be a human, not a machine.
The world checkers champion is a machine Why not chess? Why not a forklift? There can be separate champions for "human" and "world".
At the beginning of the tournament, here is what we have:
After one game played, here is what we have:
Whether the computer's method of learning is "real" machine learning or custom programming makes no difference between the situation before the game and the situation after the game. Each opponent has the time and ability to learn from the first game. You don't suppose we could prevent Kasparov from evaluating the machine?
So if you want to say "reprogramming during a multiple game match and the evaluation of the opponent by the chess experts is cheating," then you have to say the same thing about the initial programming in the first place.
BTW, if you have a program that "thinks entirely for itself," I know some other AI researchers that would love to talk to you.
Homer: Hmm. I wonder why he's so eager to go to the garage?
Moe: The "garage"? Hey fellas, the "garage"! Well, ooh la di da, Mr. French Man.
Homer: Well what do _you_ call it?
Moe: A car hole!
fat kids in dog costumes playing poker
Cripes, don't be giving Disney ideas!
the gameplay consisted of mostly save, enter the room, hit bullet time, shoot, save/reload, repeat.
You ruined it for yourself, by taking any challenge or risk whatsoever out of the game. Try playing a game without reloading when you get hurt or die. Makes it much more interesting.
It was the "topple an entire building" part. I mean, it's a mortar, not an artillery piece. Good for soft skinned targets, generally. Besides you didn't say a real mortar.
You know, I have mod points, but there is no "Stupid" category. So here is my write-in moderation.
-1, Stupid.
Yeah, that was TrekMOO (known as TrekMOO 6, BeyondTrekMOO (BTM), trek.moo.mud.org, among other incarnations).. I played on it around 1997-1998. Before it died, and had another reincarnation, then died finally forever.
My character was Coupland, a feddie.. the ship model was the best I ever saw before or since. Later on I played Among The Stars (ATS) Trek MUSH, which was pretty good. It ended up being a time waster in university so I left after a few years.
If you search for TrekMOO on Google there is some discussion on a yahoo group.. but not much else.
That's 'buku' good advice.
(I swear I've seen 'buku' before, it took me a while to figure out WTF it meant)
An Apple Bluetooth keyboard and mouse combo is coming..
I'm waiting on that, but my resolve is wearing down.. Logitech might have my money soon if Apple doesn't deliver!
Actually, Microsoft Excel sweeps those cracks every evening, and any loose change it finds is transferred to a secret compartment in your Microsoft Wallet.
Finally, we've got something to nail Billy Gates on! For this. he's not going to some white collar resort prison. No, no, no! He's going to federal POUND ME IN THE ASS prison!
Just a quick pre-emptive reply: I know that id Software ships for Windows, Linux and Mac at the same time, usually (which is great). So they are targeting that part of the market, just not *only* that part. And it doesn't take much effort for them to be cross-platform because that's how they work!
surefire way to put id Software out of business. You don't spend what they spend on making games to target less than 1% of the gaming market.
I was replying to Monkelectric's comment, not to the comment that includes the quote.
I knew I should have put it in italics, especially after it got modded down below 1. Here it is for you:
if we never built a bomb or a tank we'd be hungry and cold and speaking japanese, or german, because they would have kicked our asses.
I think your comment should be in reply to that instead..
I am simply stunned at the quality of your education. Do you even know who Eisenhower was? Here's a hint: before he was a President, he was a General.
Before you try to play the history card, make sure it's in your hand.
If they had even the slightest flair for the dramatic they would set up a page which tracks the plane's progress in real-time on a map from their satellite telementary system.
If you were around last year, you would know that they do. It's just not up yet, because the plane isn't "up" yet either.
They launched 3 last year, and are launching 4 this year. It would be really stupid to launch them an hour apart -- oops, one storm just took out all of your planes at once.
No, and it is not required.
If he was printing it out and distributing it (for free or for cash), then he/she would require the copyright holder's permission.
That's true, but only sometimes. I don't know which is the case here; I was just pointing the possible slip out. The statement caught my eye, and seemed incongruous with the rest of his "government for the people by the people" diatribe.
He does have a VRML simulation, but it's not online. See the "Simulation" link on the website, or directly:
c 999/sim.htm
http://students.ou.edu/F/Steven.R.Farley-1/kineti
I like the part just above that:
That said, I've had clients who maxed out to Members of Congress who were actively opposed to the client's legislation because they agreed with his/her social agenda.
The legislation belonging to the client. So much for laws not being bought.. is that a slip of the keyboard or what?
What if you modify GCC for use with a particular project (based on GPL program Foo) in the following way:
When your new GCC reads in the code for Foo, it compiles it incorrectly so that it convenently produces a program with your desired changes. This could be done by constructing a lookup table with original Foo code lines corresponding to modified code lines.
The result: from the original GPL Foo source, you have your own custom binary. Upon distribution of this binary, you are bound by the GPL to give access to the source, i.e. the original GPL Foo source. Since you're not distributing your custom GCC binary, you don't need to give access to its source either.
I'm sorry if I just broke Linux. Tell me if I'm wrong!
This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.
Intellectual child.
(bragging snipped)
So, as good as you are, look up. You see that giant up there, peeing on your head?
I'm sorry, that's just too funny. Combined with your complete missing of his joke, it's just too much! Peeing on his head! Har har har! Who's the child again?
Or maybe I missed your joke too. Ho ho ho! You sure got me!