minor, o.k. not minor point... you're confusing rendition w/ extradition. In the Snowden case the U.S. was prepared to have him extradited to the U.S. if they could get their hands on him. Rendition is sending a prisoner to another country that has more lax laws regarding interrogation.
So... please provide links/proof where this was going to happen to Assange, cause all I've seen to date is his paranoid claims that he would be extradited to the U.S. if he was sent to Sweden.
As mentioned before lot of paranoid conspiracy theories, very little proof.
umm... The time it takes to administer the test alone is prohibitive to its use as an employment tool. Interpretation needs to be done by a medical professional.
I've seen Myers-Brigs (and its various permutations) used in employment situations. But the MMPI or MMPI-2? Again the data would be useless. Especially the MMPI data as it needs a pro to know what parts of that test are still relevant and which parts can be thrown out.
Finally, to be repetitive, the MMPI and MMPI-2 are nothing like a myers-brigs assessment as they are diagnostic tools, no pat personality tests.
As has probably been pointe out in other areas... this is a psychological diagnostic test. It is generally administered to one who seeks counseling or help. It is used in context with interviews and generally trying to figure out what problems, if any, a patient has.
It is _not_ used by employers. In fact the data is irrelevant in an employment situation as, again, it assumes you are trying to diagnose a patient, not screen a candidate.
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And don't get started on Ko rules... As simple as it can seem on the surface I think modeling Ing or Super Ko rules in software would cause major headaches.
Thank you... as the other two have stated this needs to be modded higher than a 5.
And... this is a big point missed in the original artical. Yes there are good and bad points to the various Agile methods/processes out there. But if you compare it to how internal development is usually done at large companines and software firms... it's a bette alternative.
But... As the parent post states, Google is not a software firm. So they can afford to have a different focus in how they handle development.
Curious... how much Groove has affected the new version. I know that since buying Groove MS is incorperating it into office 2007. Just wondering how much of that expertise they're using in sharepoint.
Besides being willing to take advantage of a situation (death of opponent), switching parties while in office (Dem when elected mayor of St. Paul), grandstanding and then shutting up when told to by the RNC (ANWR).
The local rumor was as mayor of St. Paul it was known in the press circles that his philandering made Clinton look like an amateur. But nobody wanted to touch that at the time...
Disclaimer... I do volunteer work at a brewery in St. Paul MN (tour guide... and yes I home brew too.)
As others have stated before... this beer will suck because the bulk of its fermentable sugars come from... "4kg sugar" and not the malt listed in the first part of the recipe.
This tends to produce a very wine like beer as the sugar will fermet pretty much to straight alcohol and not really add any flavor. In additon (as mentioned before) the mashing schedule is f'd to say the least. It will not bring enough "flavor to the party".
Plus... the hopping schedule is f'd too. Aromatic hops add nothing when you boil them to death.
This is not a European vs. American beer thing... this is a "homebrewers at a school who want a quick buzz and no taste." issue.
Oh and on the warm vs. cold... as others have mentioned. Not universal. Ales are best at _celllar_ temperatures. But Lagers are generally designed to be drunk at lower temps (think red vs. white wines.)
Clarify big myth number 345886... for both wine and beer... Ales and red wines are not meant to be served at or just below room temp. (68 to 72 F) They are meant to be served at cellar temp. (48 to 52 F). So not "warm" by far... White wines are best in the low forties F., and lagers are good from the high 30's to low 40's depending on styles, etc.
As the effects company is the same as the one used for Firefly... What you are watching are things they developed on Firefly (e.g. the use of a zoom lens which gives that shaky feel.) This was to create a consistancy with how the rest of the show was shot. Once the company got the Battlestar G. gig, they just used their prior experience to create neat visuals for the new show.
B5 did not use zoom effects and the jerky then focus effects you see in B.G. At the very least if you compare how the effects shots are done, the various B5 series did not try to emulate use of a zoom lens like in Firefly and B.G.
In other words... B5 has its own merits, so do B.G. (and Firefly). Any similarities are by accident and/or at worst of the sort of "that looks cool, lets try it over here."
like the other poster said.. depends on how many books you got...
In the office of our house the wife and I have about 2,000 books (combination of non-fiction and small press publishers.) Then there's the spare bedroom (cookery books), our bedroom (fiction & philosophy), the hallway on our second floor (mostly children's literature.) and the basement (media based fiction and reference books for media.)
Then there are the handfull of boxes we have yet to unpack (from three years ago, mostly paperbacks.)
So the chance of buying a duplicate can be quite high, if one collects, reads a lot, and loves books.
The offers you're getting/seeing, are they mainly in the IL, IN, MI area or more national?
My guess is that Purdue still has a good rep. for technical (e.g. CS, Engineers, etc.) degrees. So employers will be interested if you graduate from there vs a small college in Minnesota with less name recognition (not dissing the small colleges, but Hamline, for example, isn't known for producting engineers, etc.)
Also I think that geography matters, so hence why I'm curious about location vs. name recognition. In other words is it a good local tech market, or is the Purdue "brand" bringing in national players.
Good Luck and congrats with the new job in the spring!
As one also located in Minnestoa (twin cities)... I've been watching our intern (who will graduate in 2005, specializes in computer security) go throught the process. He has been having a devil of a time finding a job in his area.
few reasons... a) Soon to graduate, so experience is limited (thinking from the employers point of view. b) Security is being hyped right now, but the jobs might not be there yet. c) At least in this area... IT jobs exist (programming, etc.), but seem to be going to hiring firms (e.g. Robert Half Inc.) or consulting firms. So it is hard to find a job directly, but the contract work is there.
So... advice... If you want to go into security, do like our intern and look nationally (he's at an interview on the west coast at the moment.)
A certification could help (I know there's a big debate on this, but out of the gate it shows you know something.)
In the next few years the market could change, so time is on your side.
Big thing... go for an internship somewhere... (helps on the experience side.)
Good Luck...
(this from somebody in his 30's with 10 years in IT and I'm finally getting my BA in CS from a Minnesota Univ.)
Just gotta second the poster's advice... (espicially the sleep advice.)
First 2 to 3 months we had our children (now 3.5 and 1.5) in our bedroom. That way mom could nurse the child, and due to our lack of sleep we were able to keep tabs.
Once the child was in thier own room... we had a comfy chair and would take shifts if necessary. Other wise we relied on a simple audio monitor. You'll get more info from listenting... worried about breathing? then make sure to install the transmitter underneath the crib...
On the SIDS issue... from some light research I've done the risk is higher with a premie (due to developmental issues) then a baby born at full term. For more info check out Cringley he has some good info (due to tragedy in his family...)
Finally... Something to discuss with your wife, if you haven't yet, is the whole "family bed" idea. Some people like it, some don't... Debates about the concept are similar to OS flame wars imo. But... upside, child is in bed with you, you'll be able to keep tabs... Downside... as child gets older (some people do this untill age 2 -4) it is harder to get them to sleep in their own room.
Otherwise, as mentioned elsewhere, once the child (or children) are older.. you'll discover that when all goes quite is when you really get nervous (cause you know they're doing something they shouldn't be... like standing on top of my computer desk and knocking my books off.... that would be the 1.5 yr old _daughter_ sigh....)
Here in MN the scenario described is not allowed by state law. In short what you do on your time and equipment is yours. This does not apply to NY or CA... A friend of mine got to cross that option out of his work contract (hired in MN, but contract written by people in CA) with out an issue.
So... as mentioned in/. before, be aware of your local laws and act accrodingly, this is not a federal issue, yet....
Complex reports often require more data crunching that just a single query. I use an SP to process the data and leave the results in a temporary table. My client program runs the SP, then reports with a simple SELECT on the newly generated result table.
Just curious... why the choice of a temp table versus directly returning the results to your client? (to partially answer my question is this a matter of amount of data transfered, or based on your choice of language/architecture... the temp table is easier to manipulate then storing locally?)
Yes I agree one should look at a resume, but the company I was at was hiering people right after graduation so... GPA does factor in. By the time you have one to two jobs under your belt (depending on length of time spent at those jobs) then the GPA won't matter. But then again it was an insurance company, not exactly a bastion of the cutting edge...
UML != requirements gathering. Its a modeling language created so that one could easily explain systems to one's peers not the end user. Use cases (the textual portion, not the diagrams) gets you closer. But I'm not familiar with the course listed so I do not know if they are also teaching things like story writing, user stories, direct observation, interviews, and various other methods of eliciting requirements from your customers.
IMO group projects can help in teaching communications, but there are a lot of lessons wich I've learned on the job not covered in my time in college. The big one is how to deliver bad news, how to deal with a defensive client, and similar situations where a group project doesn't quite help. Mainly it depends on the prof's focus of the project. Is it really about group work or about learning material in the course (e.g. in a communications class the pupose is obvious, but in a database class it could be either or both, ymmv.)
As for failing out of school if you can't communicate effectivly... The U of MN must have changed a lot since I attended in the 80's cause lord knows that wasnt't an issue...
I agree a 4 year degree (reagardless of major) is more broad then any career path a person might choose. As has been indicated in other posts the major benefit to students is giving them tools whith which to understand and evalute the world around them (from logic & math down to history and language.)
First a side point, as I'm married to a Michigander, It should by U of Mn (cause the people in MI will think you mean AnnArbor):-)
The IT degree is good if you're intending on supporting and/or bedoming a scientist or engineer. But it is overkill for the business world.
An insurance company I worked for (based in downtown St. Paul) would not recruit from the U of Mn Twin Cities. Mainly because the focus of the program was too technical (e.g. the employeer would prefer you to have a GPA > 3.5, but the IT program was so technical that any grad witha GPA that high was going off to support engineers or other technical labs, not business software like financials etc.)
I think that the root of the need math vs. don't need math debate lies at this level. It all depends on what you intend to do with it.
Personally I like to know the technical underpinngins (I bought TAOCP by Knuth and am _slowly_ working my way through it. But I'm a masochist.) yet if you're doing business programming it is more worth while to get an understanding of statistics, how to trawl for requirements, and how to communicate with your customers.
Finally getting my degree after 10 years in the business...
1. Statistics is good, as mentioned elswhere almost everybody in the business word could use a better grounding in statistics. For real world application this will help you from performance maonitoring to coming up with TCO numbers.
2. As mentioned above Discrete/finite mathematics can be usefull. From my experience it helped clarify some approaches to SQL queries... in other words between set theory and symbolic logic, you will get a better grounding on how to deal with large data sets. Plus logic is good for the daily political discussions in the lunch room!
3. Data structures... more abstract but if your a DBA for something like Oracle and decide you want to play with your file structure (e.g. heap versus btree, etc.) This will give you some insight into why one might option might be better than another. As for coding... its nice to know, but as pointed out somewhere else, modern languages take care of a lot of the plumbing for you so you don't really have to know it.
The rest... it's o.k. Out side of that I think, again this has been mentioned before, it depends as to what you intend to do after school. If you end up in the sciences, then you need the math as far as it applies to the area your in.
If you winde up in the business world, logic and stattistics are going to be the two big things you need. Plus, imo, a good grounding in gathering and presenting empirical data (e.g. not just tracking your time, but really looking at how long it takes you to do something or the server to do a batch process and showing to you superiors unrefutable data.)
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minor, o.k. not minor point... you're confusing rendition w/ extradition. In the Snowden case the U.S. was prepared to have him extradited to the U.S. if they could get their hands on him. Rendition is sending a prisoner to another country that has more lax laws regarding interrogation.
So... please provide links/proof where this was going to happen to Assange, cause all I've seen to date is his paranoid claims that he would be extradited to the U.S. if he was sent to Sweden.
As mentioned before lot of paranoid conspiracy theories, very little proof.
umm... The time it takes to administer the test alone is prohibitive to its use as an employment tool. Interpretation needs to be done by a medical professional.
I've seen Myers-Brigs (and its various permutations) used in employment situations. But the MMPI or MMPI-2? Again the data would be useless. Especially the MMPI data as it needs a pro to know what parts of that test are still relevant and which parts can be thrown out.
Finally, to be repetitive, the MMPI and MMPI-2 are nothing like a myers-brigs assessment as they are diagnostic tools, no pat personality tests.
As has probably been pointe out in other areas... this is a psychological diagnostic test. It is generally administered to one who seeks counseling or help. It is used in context with interviews and generally trying to figure out what problems, if any, a patient has.
It is _not_ used by employers. In fact the data is irrelevant in an employment situation as, again, it assumes you are trying to diagnose a patient, not screen a candidate.
CSI? egads...
:-)
They just ripped it off from Blade Runner.
And don't get started on Ko rules... As simple as it can seem on the surface I think modeling Ing or Super Ko rules in software would cause major headaches.
Thank you... as the other two have stated this needs to be modded higher than a 5.
And... this is a big point missed in the original artical. Yes there are good and bad points to the various Agile methods/processes out there. But if you compare it to how internal development is usually done at large companines and software firms... it's a bette alternative.
But... As the parent post states, Google is not a software firm. So they can afford to have a different focus in how they handle development.
so what does that say for kids raised on Ruby... or Haskell. ;-)
One scary article I encountred (on ora.com) suggested starting kids out on tcl/tk.
YMMV.
Curious... how much Groove has affected the new version. I know that since buying Groove MS is incorperating it into office 2007. Just wondering how much of that expertise they're using in sharepoint.
Does anybody use voice mail provided to them from their cell phone or landline phone provider?
Where is that data stored?
Has any telco been ordered by a court to turn over that voice data?
Just curious...
And to add to the series of critiques...
Besides being willing to take advantage of a situation (death of opponent), switching parties while in office (Dem when elected mayor of St. Paul), grandstanding and then shutting up when told to by the RNC (ANWR).
The local rumor was as mayor of St. Paul it was known in the press circles that his philandering made Clinton look like an amateur. But nobody wanted to touch that at the time...
sigh...
Disclaimer... I do volunteer work at a brewery in St. Paul MN (tour guide... and yes I home brew too.)
As others have stated before... this beer will suck because the bulk of its fermentable sugars come from... "4kg sugar" and not the malt listed in the first part of the recipe.
This tends to produce a very wine like beer as the sugar will fermet pretty much to straight alcohol and not really add any flavor. In additon (as mentioned before) the mashing schedule is f'd to say the least. It will not bring enough "flavor to the party".
Plus... the hopping schedule is f'd too. Aromatic hops add nothing when you boil them to death.
This is not a European vs. American beer thing... this is a "homebrewers at a school who want a quick buzz and no taste." issue.
Oh and on the warm vs. cold... as others have mentioned. Not universal. Ales are best at _celllar_ temperatures. But Lagers are generally designed to be drunk at lower temps (think red vs. white wines.)
Clarify big myth number 345886... for both wine and beer... Ales and red wines are not meant to be served at or just below room temp. (68 to 72 F) They are meant to be served at cellar temp. (48 to 52 F). So not "warm" by far... White wines are best in the low forties F., and lagers are good from the high 30's to low 40's depending on styles, etc.
Liechtenstein? didn't come up in the search...
At the bottom of the page is the download link. It does appear to go to a "free" evaluation/beta copy.
I didn't download it though, so I don't know what the exact terms of use are.
The fact that there is a "Buy Now" would suggest that the eval copy is for testing but not production. Just a guess though.
As the effects company is the same as the one used for Firefly... What you are watching are things they developed on Firefly (e.g. the use of a zoom lens which gives that shaky feel.) This was to create a consistancy with how the rest of the show was shot. Once the company got the Battlestar G. gig, they just used their prior experience to create neat visuals for the new show.
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B5 did not use zoom effects and the jerky then focus effects you see in B.G. At the very least if you compare how the effects shots are done, the various B5 series did not try to emulate use of a zoom lens like in Firefly and B.G.
In other words... B5 has its own merits, so do B.G. (and Firefly). Any similarities are by accident and/or at worst of the sort of "that looks cool, lets try it over here."
just another
Nitpick...
IsNot == !=
unless your assigning != to IsNot.
Sorry couldn't resist... I'll go sit in a corner now.
like the other poster said.. depends on how many books you got...
In the office of our house the wife and I have about 2,000 books (combination of non-fiction and small press publishers.) Then there's the spare bedroom (cookery books), our bedroom (fiction & philosophy), the hallway on our second floor (mostly children's literature.) and the basement (media based fiction and reference books for media.)
Then there are the handfull of boxes we have yet to unpack (from three years ago, mostly paperbacks.)
So the chance of buying a duplicate can be quite high, if one collects, reads a lot, and loves books.
right I've had one martini too many... :-)
I almost took that seriously... but then my sarcasm switch turned on.
Oh and I sadly also contribute to the trend...
Hmmm... curious...
The offers you're getting/seeing, are they mainly in the IL, IN, MI area or more national?
My guess is that Purdue still has a good rep. for technical (e.g. CS, Engineers, etc.) degrees. So employers will be interested if you graduate from there vs a small college in Minnesota with less name recognition (not dissing the small colleges, but Hamline, for example, isn't known for producting engineers, etc.)
Also I think that geography matters, so hence why I'm curious about location vs. name recognition. In other words is it a good local tech market, or is the Purdue "brand" bringing in national players.
Good Luck and congrats with the new job in the spring!
As one also located in Minnestoa (twin cities)... I've been watching our intern (who will graduate in 2005, specializes in computer security) go throught the process. He has been having a devil of a time finding a job in his area.
few reasons...
a) Soon to graduate, so experience is limited (thinking from the employers point of view.
b) Security is being hyped right now, but the jobs might not be there yet.
c) At least in this area... IT jobs exist (programming, etc.), but seem to be going to hiring firms (e.g. Robert Half Inc.) or consulting firms. So it is hard to find a job directly, but the contract work is there.
So... advice...
If you want to go into security, do like our intern and look nationally (he's at an interview on the west coast at the moment.)
A certification could help (I know there's a big debate on this, but out of the gate it shows you know something.)
In the next few years the market could change, so time is on your side.
Big thing... go for an internship somewhere... (helps on the experience side.)
Good Luck...
(this from somebody in his 30's with 10 years in IT and I'm finally getting my BA in CS from a Minnesota Univ.)
Just gotta second the poster's advice... (espicially the sleep advice.)
First 2 to 3 months we had our children (now 3.5 and 1.5) in our bedroom. That way mom could nurse the child, and due to our lack of sleep we were able to keep tabs.
Once the child was in thier own room... we had a comfy chair and would take shifts if necessary. Other wise we relied on a simple audio monitor. You'll get more info from listenting... worried about breathing? then make sure to install the transmitter underneath the crib...
On the SIDS issue... from some light research I've done the risk is higher with a premie (due to developmental issues) then a baby born at full term. For more info check out Cringley he has some good info (due to tragedy in his family...)
Finally... Something to discuss with your wife, if you haven't yet, is the whole "family bed" idea. Some people like it, some don't... Debates about the concept are similar to OS flame wars imo. But... upside, child is in bed with you, you'll be able to keep tabs... Downside... as child gets older (some people do this untill age 2 -4) it is harder to get them to sleep in their own room.
Otherwise, as mentioned elsewhere, once the child (or children) are older.. you'll discover that when all goes quite is when you really get nervous (cause you know they're doing something they shouldn't be... like standing on top of my computer desk and knocking my books off.... that would be the 1.5 yr old _daughter_ sigh....)
Here in MN the scenario described is not allowed by state law. In short what you do on your time and equipment is yours. This does not apply to NY or CA... A friend of mine got to cross that option out of his work contract (hired in MN, but contract written by people in CA) with out an issue.
/. before, be aware of your local laws and act accrodingly, this is not a federal issue, yet....
So... as mentioned in
Just curious... why the choice of a temp table versus directly returning the results to your client?
(to partially answer my question is this a matter of amount of data transfered, or based on your choice of language/architecture... the temp table is easier to manipulate then storing locally?)
thanks.
Picking a few nits...
Yes I agree one should look at a resume, but the company I was at was hiering people right after graduation so... GPA does factor in. By the time you have one to two jobs under your belt (depending on length of time spent at those jobs) then the GPA won't matter. But then again it was an insurance company, not exactly a bastion of the cutting edge...
UML != requirements gathering. Its a modeling language created so that one could easily explain systems to one's peers not the end user. Use cases (the textual portion, not the diagrams) gets you closer. But I'm not familiar with the course listed so I do not know if they are also teaching things like story writing, user stories, direct observation, interviews, and various other methods of eliciting requirements from your customers.
IMO group projects can help in teaching communications, but there are a lot of lessons wich I've learned on the job not covered in my time in college. The big one is how to deliver bad news, how to deal with a defensive client, and similar situations where a group project doesn't quite help. Mainly it depends on the prof's focus of the project. Is it really about group work or about learning material in the course (e.g. in a communications class the pupose is obvious, but in a database class it could be either or both, ymmv.)
As for failing out of school if you can't communicate effectivly... The U of MN must have changed a lot since I attended in the 80's cause lord knows that wasnt't an issue...
I agree a 4 year degree (reagardless of major) is more broad then any career path a person might choose. As has been indicated in other posts the major benefit to students is giving them tools whith which to understand and evalute the world around them (from logic & math down to history and language.)
Which is why I didn't finish my degree there....
:-)
First a side point, as I'm married to a Michigander, It should by U of Mn (cause the people in MI will think you mean AnnArbor)
The IT degree is good if you're intending on supporting and/or bedoming a scientist or engineer. But it is overkill for the business world.
An insurance company I worked for (based in downtown St. Paul) would not recruit from the U of Mn Twin Cities. Mainly because the focus of the program was too technical (e.g. the employeer would prefer you to have a GPA > 3.5, but the IT program was so technical that any grad witha GPA that high was going off to support engineers or other technical labs, not business software like financials etc.)
I think that the root of the need math vs. don't need math debate lies at this level. It all depends on what you intend to do with it.
Personally I like to know the technical underpinngins (I bought TAOCP by Knuth and am _slowly_ working my way through it. But I'm a masochist.) yet if you're doing business programming it is more worth while to get an understanding of statistics, how to trawl for requirements, and how to communicate with your customers.
Just my $.02
Finally getting my degree after 10 years in the business...
1. Statistics is good, as mentioned elswhere almost everybody in the business word could use a better grounding in statistics. For real world application this will help you from performance maonitoring to coming up with TCO numbers.
2. As mentioned above Discrete/finite mathematics can be usefull. From my experience it helped clarify some approaches to SQL queries... in other words between set theory and symbolic logic, you will get a better grounding on how to deal with large data sets. Plus logic is good for the daily political discussions in the lunch room!
3. Data structures... more abstract but if your a DBA for something like Oracle and decide you want to play with your file structure (e.g. heap versus btree, etc.) This will give you some insight into why one might option might be better than another. As for coding... its nice to know, but as pointed out somewhere else, modern languages take care of a lot of the plumbing for you so you don't really have to know it.
The rest... it's o.k. Out side of that I think, again this has been mentioned before, it depends as to what you intend to do after school. If you end up in the sciences, then you need the math as far as it applies to the area your in.
If you winde up in the business world, logic and stattistics are going to be the two big things you need. Plus, imo, a good grounding in gathering and presenting empirical data (e.g. not just tracking your time, but really looking at how long it takes you to do something or the server to do a batch process and showing to you superiors unrefutable data.)