Look at how many temperature records have been broken over the last 20-25 years.
And all of this "record-breaking" is still under 1 degree Celsius — or well within the margin of error of most thermometers (especially those of the 19th century). Phlease...
BTW I'm not trying to convince you that you are wrong
Sure, sure. That's one way to surrender. Not the most graceful, but acceptable.
idiocy
Name-calling is less graceful — try to avoid that, if you do not want to be considered an asshole.
You are welcome to wallow in your ignorance.
Ignorance of what exactly? Let's recap my statements:
Many of the crimes in the US are committed by illegal immigrants — an indisputable fact, even if we can not agree on the exact figures.
That building a border-wall would greatly reduce their numbers — indisputably proven by Israel's border wall.
Even a 10% reduction in crime will pay for the wall within one year. Maybe, the 10% figure is exaggerated, but 1% is certainly reasonable. So the wall will pay off in 10 years instead — still a big win.
Another funny bit is that neither you nor your source cite figures for Black men — even though this would've supported your point (much) better, you chose to shy away from it for fear of appearing racist... Another ill Trump's presidency may be able to fix...
that crime rates would go down with less immigrants
Not crime rates — the number of crimes.. Fewer people, fewer criminals, less crime. Just housing the already convicted illegal immigrants cost the US taxpayers $1.87 bln in 2014 — on top of the devastation of the victims and the great costs of investigating and prosecuting the crimes.
just the property rights have been estimated at several times that
Another unsubstantiated claim.
Simply driving the segment of the wall to its final location would cost you that much in fuel
And another...
the wall is a simplistic solution from the mind of a child
Israel's wall works — the point you do not even attempt to refute. So will ours.
You actually want to stop illegal immigration? punish the employers.
One measure does not exclude another. But you may be exaggerating the current ease of hiring illegals. When I was hired recently, for example, I had to bring my passport (or some other proof of eligibility) with me on the first day. I forgot and they sent me back home for it...
illegal immigrants have a lower rate of crime than the average population
This statement — unsupported by any citations, BTW — is irrelevant to my point. Even if they are less crime-prone on average, they are a source of crime anyway.
We can not get rid of native criminals by deporting them anywhere, but we can deport the folks, who have entered this country illegally (and already have this "original sin" to their name).
But yeah sure, a wall will stop that.
It may not stop that entirely, but it will reduce it, that's for sure. 15 years ago, when Israel was building its much derided wall, similar predictions of failure were made.
The number of fatalities from terror attacks within Israel dropped from more than 130 in 2003 to fewer than 25 in 2005.
According to a 2006 estimate cited by Slate (the article itself is hardly sympathetic to the idea, BTW), an Israel-kind of wall stretching for 2000 miles would cost $6.4 bln (or about 1/3rd the annual cost of NASA). And we may not even need it that high and sophisticated — because, unlike Israel, we aren't facing an enemy bent on our destruction... Nor are there any border-disputes with Mexico — the other complication of their project.
Only an eight year old would...
My eight year old would already recognize this rhetorical trick as one used only by crooks and liars. Your parents should not have allowed you access to the Internet until you've read up on classic literature...
In fact, we could probably cut NASA entirely ($19.6 billion budget for 2016) and that wouldn't be enough for a wall between the US and Mexico.
In 2007, the economic losses from crime in the US were $15 billion. A whopping $179 billion more was spent on police, legal proceedings, prisons, etc. In other words, we lose over $200 billion every year to crime.
Now, the percentage of crimes committed by illegal aliens is surprisingly hard to obtain — federal government is unwilling to keep an officially tally (maybe, Trump will fix this). But the sentencing statistics say: "Twelve percent of murder sentences, 20 percent of kidnapping sentences and 16 percent of drug trafficking sentences are meted out to illegal immigrants."
Maybe, that's an overestimate by those nasty racists at FauxNoos and the real figure is "only" 10%. If we could get rid of that, we'd be able to afford another NASA with the savings... But even if the money went to building the wall instead, as you suggested, we'd break even — just have fewer murders and kidnappings.
Committing a crime in a country with robust law enforcement takes bravery...
But this extortionist is not merely "gutsy" — the "stunt" is also described in the write-up as "daring"... Carefully selecting terms and adjectives for (not so) subtle spin — while remaining factually correct — is what they teach in journalism classes. But some people are just natural — Vladimir Putin's weaponized propaganda organization would be most interested.
When the subject is described as "gutsy" and "daring", the punishment seems excessive — even if only to subconsciousness. Were it "plucky" and "outrageous" and a "crime" (or, better yet, a "felony"), rather than a "stunt", you'd be less likely to develop any sympathy for the criminal.
You could probably find your way to one, but they'd almost certainly drag you through the street by your heels before making you the star of a beheading video.
What happened to "celebrating diversity"?!?
I'm triggered by your implication, that some cultures are better than others!
Huh? Of course, there is... The average duration of marriage in a country and the number of children born to single mothers is quite well documented in most countries. In fact, it is probably better documented, than the pupils' Math-achievements.
A number of such studies have been done, in fact — but all I'm hitting are "paywalled" results, for some reason. As a matter of fact, TFA does not link to the actual study either... Khm...
Federal authorities are currently investigating fraud and bid-rigging charges against a group of real estate investors, and the secret recordings came to light when they were submitted as evidence
Which makes such evidence inadmissible...
If I were an FBI agent promised a decent reward for making the lawsuit go away, maybe, I would've thought up a scheme like this... I'd demonstrate the zeal and the willingness to bend the rules (and the Constitution) — and the charges would be dismissed because the primary evidence will be thrown out.
I may get fired for the failure, maybe even reprimanded for the rule-bending, but not prosecuted for the bribery, which no one will even suspect...
We appreciate Mr. Wellington bringing this anomaly to our attention
No, they most likely do not appreciate it.
More importantly, a fraction of ticketed car-owners must have appealed the summonses — and won. NYPD could — and therefor must — track the appeals and their results. Had they done so, they would've noticed the anomaly themselves.
Next in line — use FOIA to chart ticked-issuance per day of the month. This would finally establish — beyond doubt — whether or not police departments have ticket-quotas...
firebombing of Dresden, the single most agressive act of deliberate violence on innocent civilians EVER
Was it? Let's see, Dresden bombing — 25 thousand people (not all of them civilians). Compared to the multitude of genocide-attempts of the 20th century, that's literally a drop in a bucket...
For just one example, the executions of rounded-up civilian Jews in Babiy Yar: 33 thousand in two days (Dresden bombing took 4 raids spread out over 3 days)... Bleiburg is a different kind of atrocity — by Yugoslav partisans against surrendered Germans and "collaborators" — tens of thousands deaths. Katyn is yet another, USSR executed over 20 thousands Poles — surrendered military officers and captured elites alike.
You'd have to craft your rules really really tight to exclude all of these and leave the Dresden bombing as "the single most aggressive" somehow...
Hiroshima and Negasaki pale in comparison to the shit they dropped on Dresden.
Wow... Talk about being full of shit... Hiroshima and Nagasaki lost between 109 to 226 thousand of civilians (justified by 20+ thousand military death and destruction of military installations and factories). That's about 4-10 Dresdens combined...
We regret to inform you, that Slaughterhouse-Five is the only book by Vonnegut, that is sufficiently anti-American to be approved for American readership.
74 genetic variants that are associated with educational attainment
This is yet another manifestation of how the strong, healthy, smart, and the goodlooking have unfair advantage in life. So, just because their daddy and mommy had better genes, they are better humans now? No!!
It is long overdue for awareness to be raised of this grotesque and self-perpetuating injustice. To achieve the level playing field the overly smart need to be lobotomised, the strong — crippled, and the beautiful — disfigured.
Ukrainian military could, probably, equip several infantry brigades with that money... For the Italian that may cover the amount spent per year on office-supplies and coffee-makers.
If you define success as who has the richest people, then GDP per capita is one measure.
This sentence is self-contradicting...
If it matters to you that financial success and economic security be reasonably well distributed among the population
It does matter to me, incidentally, but that can not be the goal in itself. This "reasonably even distribution" comes as a consequence of good governance.
If you pursue it as a goal, you'll make everyone equally poor — take from someone, who grew up in the USSR.
Some quotes from a CNN article on happiness
Happiness is not quantifiable and can not be discussed in this context.
The desirability among would-be immigrants, however, can be. Yet, you chose to ignore that measure even though I proposed it right along the per capita GDP. Could it be because the US is winning on it, huh? Maybe, it is time for you to leave the country, to which your ancestors fled from wherever that was — and vacate the space for new freedom-seekers?
Of the four depressions in the list you provided, one was not in the US at all (the Greek depression), and the others aren't obviously supportive of the "one worse than the last" claim.
Worse — for your argument — even if it were true, having a depression "every few decades" is still much better, than having a famine or a mass-murder, which Communism and Socialism (a.k.a. Communism-lite) bring about with alarming persistence. One is unravelling in Venezuela right now — which is far worse off today, than it was before it elected a Socialist to help divide the spoils of oil-wealth "fairly".
Despite being insanely wasteful, it [FDR's first 8 years in office -mi] was hugely successful at solving economic problems
Was it successful? Or did it simply perpetuate the depression — making it much "greater" than it had to be?
UN Human Development Index is a measure of success
Lies, damn lies, and benchmarks... A measure of success according to who? Bureaucrats sent to the UN by their governments? Of course, they are going to consider Statist countries more "successful". For just one example, this index of yours awards extra points simply for "years of schooling" the country provides...
What would yours be?
I would consider GDP per capita and the attractiveness to (would-be) immigrants.
The topics you see are based on a number of factors including engagement, timeliness, Pages you've liked and your location.
All of these factors can be objectively measured, which implies computer-program objectivity.
Just more whining.
Whining? Wake me up, when those KKKonservatives claim being triggered and demand you leave their "safe space" to stop "hurting" them with your very presence...
Except none of that has anything to do with socialism
By definition, Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production. The higher the proportion of the nation's spending, that is decided by the nation's government rather than directly by the citizenry, the higher the degree of Socialism there is in the country.
This share for the US has been gradually rising (except for the spike during WW2), inhibiting our standards of living. It is still not as high at some other countries, so we are still richer than they are. I'd rather see the trend towards increased government control reversed, however.
Next time you meet Bernie Sanders, ask him, what would he, given a similar position, do differently from Hugo Chavez...
That winning team includes three Asian names, and a head coach and assistant coach each with an Asian name.
That such a coach became a teacher and got into this position — despite the lingeringanti-Asian bigotry — may itself be thanks to increases in accountability... School-principals and fellow teachers may still dislike them, but have to weight that dislike against their school quantifiably falling behind in Math.
Same may be true about the pupils themselves. They are still bullied, but, maybe, not as much now that school employees need them to help keep their school's averages higher.
I don't think that the team is winning because educational standards went up.
Well, you certainly aren't substantiating your opinion. No, I do not either... But I make a better effort...
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And all of this "record-breaking" is still under 1 degree Celsius — or well within the margin of error of most thermometers (especially those of the 19th century). Phlease...
No, darling. That's not, how debating works. You make a claim, you substantiate it.
Sure, sure. That's one way to surrender. Not the most graceful, but acceptable.
Name-calling is less graceful — try to avoid that, if you do not want to be considered an asshole.
Ignorance of what exactly? Let's recap my statements:
You lost... Remember to logout.
"Sabotaging"? I certainly love the word, but it is decidedly non-applicable... Let's see:
How do the reviews — however negative — destroy or hinder anything?
Once again the terms are chosen not for accuracy, but for a spin — to build up our emotional reaction to the story...
This carefully mixes legal and illegal immigration together. And there are over twice as many illegal immigrants in the US today, than there were in the 90ies. Oh, and you carefully replaced the number of crimes with the number of incarcerations — illegals don't always go to prison, some times they may get deported instead. Nice try, but fail...
Another funny bit is that neither you nor your source cite figures for Black men — even though this would've supported your point (much) better, you chose to shy away from it for fear of appearing racist... Another ill Trump's presidency may be able to fix...
Not crime rates — the number of crimes.. Fewer people, fewer criminals, less crime. Just housing the already convicted illegal immigrants cost the US taxpayers $1.87 bln in 2014 — on top of the devastation of the victims and the great costs of investigating and prosecuting the crimes.
Another unsubstantiated claim.
And another...
Israel's wall works — the point you do not even attempt to refute. So will ours.
One measure does not exclude another. But you may be exaggerating the current ease of hiring illegals. When I was hired recently, for example, I had to bring my passport (or some other proof of eligibility) with me on the first day. I forgot and they sent me back home for it...
This statement — unsupported by any citations, BTW — is irrelevant to my point. Even if they are less crime-prone on average, they are a source of crime anyway.
We can not get rid of native criminals by deporting them anywhere, but we can deport the folks, who have entered this country illegally (and already have this "original sin" to their name).
It may not stop that entirely, but it will reduce it, that's for sure. 15 years ago, when Israel was building its much derided wall, similar predictions of failure were made.
But the walls work:
According to a 2006 estimate cited by Slate (the article itself is hardly sympathetic to the idea, BTW), an Israel-kind of wall stretching for 2000 miles would cost $6.4 bln (or about 1/3rd the annual cost of NASA). And we may not even need it that high and sophisticated — because, unlike Israel, we aren't facing an enemy bent on our destruction... Nor are there any border-disputes with Mexico — the other complication of their project.
My eight year old would already recognize this rhetorical trick as one used only by crooks and liars. Your parents should not have allowed you access to the Internet until you've read up on classic literature...
In 2007, the economic losses from crime in the US were $15 billion. A whopping $179 billion more was spent on police, legal proceedings, prisons, etc. In other words, we lose over $200 billion every year to crime.
Now, the percentage of crimes committed by illegal aliens is surprisingly hard to obtain — federal government is unwilling to keep an officially tally (maybe, Trump will fix this). But the sentencing statistics say: "Twelve percent of murder sentences, 20 percent of kidnapping sentences and 16 percent of drug trafficking sentences are meted out to illegal immigrants."
Maybe, that's an overestimate by those nasty racists at FauxNoos and the real figure is "only" 10%. If we could get rid of that, we'd be able to afford another NASA with the savings... But even if the money went to building the wall instead, as you suggested, we'd break even — just have fewer murders and kidnappings.
Committing a crime in a country with robust law enforcement takes bravery...
But this extortionist is not merely "gutsy" — the "stunt" is also described in the write-up as "daring"... Carefully selecting terms and adjectives for (not so) subtle spin — while remaining factually correct — is what they teach in journalism classes. But some people are just natural — Vladimir Putin's weaponized propaganda organization would be most interested.
When the subject is described as "gutsy" and "daring", the punishment seems excessive — even if only to subconsciousness. Were it "plucky" and "outrageous" and a "crime" (or, better yet, a "felony"), rather than a "stunt", you'd be less likely to develop any sympathy for the criminal.
It also helps prevent any sympathy for the victim of the crime — see, it is Mitt Romney's own fault, according to many posters here, not all of them anonymous. (Should not have worn so short a skirt, if he did not want to be raped.)
What happened to "celebrating diversity"?!?
I'm triggered by your implication, that some cultures are better than others!
Huh? Of course, there is... The average duration of marriage in a country and the number of children born to single mothers is quite well documented in most countries. In fact, it is probably better documented, than the pupils' Math-achievements.
A number of such studies have been done, in fact — but all I'm hitting are "paywalled" results, for some reason. As a matter of fact, TFA does not link to the actual study either... Khm...
Which makes such evidence inadmissible...
If I were an FBI agent promised a decent reward for making the lawsuit go away, maybe, I would've thought up a scheme like this... I'd demonstrate the zeal and the willingness to bend the rules (and the Constitution) — and the charges would be dismissed because the primary evidence will be thrown out.
I may get fired for the failure, maybe even reprimanded for the rule-bending, but not prosecuted for the bribery, which no one will even suspect...
No, they most likely do not appreciate it.
More importantly, a fraction of ticketed car-owners must have appealed the summonses — and won. NYPD could — and therefor must — track the appeals and their results. Had they done so, they would've noticed the anomaly themselves.
Next in line — use FOIA to chart ticked-issuance per day of the month. This would finally establish — beyond doubt — whether or not police departments have ticket-quotas...
Was it? Let's see, Dresden bombing — 25 thousand people (not all of them civilians). Compared to the multitude of genocide-attempts of the 20th century, that's literally a drop in a bucket...
For just one example, the executions of rounded-up civilian Jews in Babiy Yar: 33 thousand in two days (Dresden bombing took 4 raids spread out over 3 days)... Bleiburg is a different kind of atrocity — by Yugoslav partisans against surrendered Germans and "collaborators" — tens of thousands deaths. Katyn is yet another, USSR executed over 20 thousands Poles — surrendered military officers and captured elites alike.
You'd have to craft your rules really really tight to exclude all of these and leave the Dresden bombing as "the single most aggressive" somehow...
Wow... Talk about being full of shit... Hiroshima and Nagasaki lost between 109 to 226 thousand of civilians (justified by 20+ thousand military death and destruction of military installations and factories). That's about 4-10 Dresdens combined...
We regret to inform you, that Slaughterhouse-Five is the only book by Vonnegut, that is sufficiently anti-American to be approved for American readership.
Ask your manager and quit bothering the rest of us here. Keeping you productive is his responsibility, not ours.
This is yet another manifestation of how the strong, healthy, smart, and the goodlooking have unfair advantage in life. So, just because their daddy and mommy had better genes, they are better humans now? No!!
It is long overdue for awareness to be raised of this grotesque and self-perpetuating injustice. To achieve the level playing field the overly smart need to be lobotomised, the strong — crippled, and the beautiful — disfigured.
Ukrainian military could, probably, equip several infantry brigades with that money... For the Italian that may cover the amount spent per year on office-supplies and coffee-makers.
This sentence is self-contradicting...
It does matter to me, incidentally, but that can not be the goal in itself. This "reasonably even distribution" comes as a consequence of good governance.
If you pursue it as a goal, you'll make everyone equally poor — take from someone, who grew up in the USSR.
Happiness is not quantifiable and can not be discussed in this context.
The desirability among would-be immigrants, however, can be. Yet, you chose to ignore that measure even though I proposed it right along the per capita GDP. Could it be because the US is winning on it, huh? Maybe, it is time for you to leave the country, to which your ancestors fled from wherever that was — and vacate the space for new freedom-seekers?
Meaningless noises.
There don't have to be. The objective measure of Socialism is the share of GDP, that is spent not by individuals/corporations, but by the government.
This robs us of both freedom and money — it sucks.
Of the four depressions in the list you provided, one was not in the US at all (the Greek depression), and the others aren't obviously supportive of the "one worse than the last" claim.
Worse — for your argument — even if it were true, having a depression "every few decades" is still much better, than having a famine or a mass-murder, which Communism and Socialism (a.k.a. Communism-lite) bring about with alarming persistence. One is unravelling in Venezuela right now — which is far worse off today, than it was before it elected a Socialist to help divide the spoils of oil-wealth "fairly".
Was it successful? Or did it simply perpetuate the depression — making it much "greater" than it had to be?
Lies, damn lies, and benchmarks... A measure of success according to who? Bureaucrats sent to the UN by their governments? Of course, they are going to consider Statist countries more "successful". For just one example, this index of yours awards extra points simply for "years of schooling" the country provides...
I would consider GDP per capita and the attractiveness to (would-be) immigrants.
All of these factors can be objectively measured, which implies computer-program objectivity.
Whining? Wake me up, when those KKKonservatives claim being triggered and demand you leave their "safe space" to stop "hurting" them with your very presence...
Citations?
Ah, so FDR's first 8 years in office did not do anything, huh? A surprisingly frank admission for a Statist...
And that means what? I top my own index too...
By definition, Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production. The higher the proportion of the nation's spending, that is decided by the nation's government rather than directly by the citizenry, the higher the degree of Socialism there is in the country.
This share for the US has been gradually rising (except for the spike during WW2), inhibiting our standards of living. It is still not as high at some other countries, so we are still richer than they are. I'd rather see the trend towards increased government control reversed, however.
Next time you meet Bernie Sanders, ask him, what would he, given a similar position, do differently from Hugo Chavez...
Ever lived in one for yourself? Venezuela, maybe?
That such a coach became a teacher and got into this position — despite the lingering anti-Asian bigotry — may itself be thanks to increases in accountability... School-principals and fellow teachers may still dislike them, but have to weight that dislike against their school quantifiably falling behind in Math.
Same may be true about the pupils themselves. They are still bullied, but, maybe, not as much now that school employees need them to help keep their school's averages higher.
Well, you certainly aren't substantiating your opinion. No, I do not either... But I make a better effort...
The US up until FDR qualifies, in my not so humble opinion.
You are begging the question yourself... Are they "successful"?
For example, they can not defend themselves from Russia — not without NATO (American) help...