The reason to state it is to point out the stupidity of trying to insist science you don't like is just some opposing political/ideological claim. If the science is right or wrong it is because of the data, not because one is conservative or liberal.
It's not unlike your argument that the theory you agree with is 100% right and opposing views are "stupid" (to use your wording). See, you and gp really are very much alike after all. You just have the opposite opinion is all.
For the same reason they have such certainty about the things they think they "know". The whole global warming debate is a fascinating study of human psychology.
It is very interesting to be sure. On slashdot folks get moded down for even a sideways critique of Global Warming. What this world is coming too.
Mode parent up!!
It's the same for most controversial issues on Slashdot. Creationism vs Evolutionism for example. Post an comment that isn't in full support of evolution and you probably won't be able to count the milliseconds before you're at -1 and have 20 people calling you and idiot (or worse). This community is no different from any other community across the world really, it just thinks it is.
Any time the word "cloud' is used, a real tech wants to punch you in the face.
"The cloud" is a title so we don't have explain how the internet works to moronic Mr.CEO and pals.
Amen, brother. It's really getting annoying to me lately.
Eh? I'm pretty sure most successful people have huge egos. Steve Jobs, Donald Trump, Hurd the turd... I could make a long and pointless list pretty easily. I think that big egos are generally the result of success.
I don't think anyone questioned why they were there. The issue is, there are people who will refuse to build off of or contribute to GPL projects because they're somehow afraid of being compelled to contribute something they might not want to. So the question then becomes, are the contributions that are compelled by the license going to be greater than the contributions lost due to fear of being compelled?
I'm not taking a side here. I don't have any idea what the answer is, but I suspect it's different for different projects and different communities.
I think it's a question that cannot be answered since the latter are only theoretical contributions. It's one of those questions like "Why are we here?".
They're abiding by the terms of the GPL and considering giving more than is required. It's a company, not a charity.
Absolutely, I though the response was totally appropriate. When Jerry's Kids develop some kernel upgrades, I'll expect them to divulge everything they find and make the results FOSS. Until then, this sounds good to me.
Some folks seem to think it's unethical to try and run an IT related business these days based on the comments.
I'm surprised at all of this. While I agree that the mixed case menu looks better, I don't see why this is a big enough deal for someone to write an entire article about. I certainly was surprised that the editors would deem this submission interesting enough to select. I'm even more surprised by the huge interest posters have in it. When I saw the menu, I thought it was not as good as the old one but then immediately said "well, whatever" and moved on with trying out the new visual studio. It didn't really get in my way or anything like that. While I think the mixed case menus are more appealing, the whole time I read the article and the comments here on slashdot the word "nitpicking" kept coming to mind. If developers really don't have anything better to worry about, then times as an IT dev are even better than I thought they were.
A model is no more a sex object than a store mannequin is a sex toy. They are selling products, they are not hookers. Get some perspective.
No, that would be a salesman or saleswoman. These are most definitely there solely for sex appeal. Even calling them "models" is a stretch in my opinion.
Like: "Considering that you helped a foreign power conspire to break NZ law, why should we allow you to continue to work in our country?"
I can imagine FedEx's response.
"What are you suggesting? That we open every FedEx package we ship out? To check against some kind of real-time up-to-second list provided by the police department for what's already in their evidence locker?
What happens if we don't do that? Are you going to arrest us and freeze all our assets too? Wouldn't it be easier to just put a lock on your evidence locker and carefully vet/punish the people who took out the evidence in the first place? Or at least punish/fire/jail the people who gave them access to that locker? "
Even if they had opened the package and seen hard drives, to know there might have been a problem they would have had to connect them to computers and read the data off them. It's just not reasonable in the slightest.
Wait, the MPAA is claiming the Megaupload EULA/TOS as a reason why people shouldn't get their data back? That's kinda a dick move.
Also, if I was the NZ government, I would be asking FedEx some pretty hard questions. Like: "Considering that you helped a foreign power conspire to break NZ law, why should we allow you to continue to work in our country?"
Have you even once heard of the MPAA doing anything that could not be accurately described as a dick move? I haven't.
Leap is only for your hands, and only covers 8 cubic feet. Not nearly the same thing as kinect, so referring to it as a more polished version of kinect seems a bit silly to me.
I think people are blowing this secure boot problem a little out of proportion, and many like the author here are inferring that the problem is with UEFI its-self. I see UEFI as a good thing (as it has been for several years on the systems that already support UEFI).
In the author's example, they complain that someone who rolled their own linux distro wouldn't be able to install it. This is a laughable idea to me, if someone has the skills to roll their own distro, why would they have a problem figuring out how to go into the UEFI config and disable secure boot? Second, we're really only talking about oem crapmachines like dell and HP/Compaq and the like which will have secure boot enabled by default to meet the Microsoft Windows8 logo certification. If an OEM like that sells machines with linux, I'm pretty sure the machine with ALSO ship with no secure boot and no logo sticker. If a user buys a machine, pays for a windows license, and still wants to wipe it out and run linux.. Somehow I fail to see how making one change in the UEFI config is a big deal.
If a user buys an asus (or whatever brand you like) motherboard, it's not going to be Windows 8 logo certified because it isn't a whole computer and I would hope would not have the secure boot enabled by default.
So, I think this is a case of mountains being made out of molehills. I only care because things like TFA seem to place the blame inappropriately on UEFI, and I've been waiting for UEFI on my machine for a very long time!
I would bet on your last point above all. Valve wants their own console, they are afraid of windows 8 for good reason. Making a linux steam client paves the way for their own steam box.
Wish I had a mod point for you. I hadn't thought of that, but you've probably hit the nail right on the head. +1 insightful. Most valve games run on relatively low end hardware (compared to pretty much any other game), so it would make the valve console super easy to create.
Linux had a chance to become a premiere desktop OS last decade with Microsoft Screwup on top of Screwup. However, it seemed that Apple Took the Gold and Linux Lagged
Never overestimate Microsoft. They seem to be on course for another major debacle with windows 8 and windows RT.
That doesn't change the fact that until the software people want to run are easily available on Linux, Linux isn't going "mainstream". Even supported software (like VMWare for example) is a relative PITA to install on Ubuntu (widely touted as being "easy mode" Linux) vs installing VMWare on a windows box. Linux as a community has a LONG way to go in the user friendliness area before it will be a serious contender for the desktop of an "average" user. I don't hate Linux, and I'm sure the Linux fans here will mod me down, but sometimes the truth hurts a little.
while I might think it's an analogue, another chemist might disagree,' says Shanks. 'That's the crux of the entire problem.
The author seems to have missed the fact that the real crux of the problem and that is that the country has banned the relatively safe versions, causing people to seek out these dangerous copies.
I'm not so sure he was joking.. At any rate, if you call the cops they expect to arrest someone. If the real perp is too inconvenient to go after, you're the lucky winner. This is even more likely if the malware does a bunch of google searches for kiddie porn in the background
I agree, it sounds like a very realistic scenario to me.
My rasberry pi doesn't recognize speech because I can't buy one! I've been registered on the various sites for quite a while, and I guess they're just not making any more of these. Rasberry pi was an interesting idea but it's complete lack of availability seems to have killed it.
The sad part is nobody seems to remember we have been down this road before....show of hands, anybody remember the whole "thin client push" in the dot bomb days? I sure do, you had all these companies pushing "the net/server' would solve everything, all your IT needs and problems just poof! Gone. anybody else remember that? So what happened?
The exact same things that is gonna happen this time, worries about data security, having a whole office sitting on ass if the network ever goes down, lag and crappy hosted apps not being as good as rich desktop apps, which BTW none of these problems have been solved by replacing net or server with cloud. I guess history doomed repeat and all that.
Yep, and long before that we had unix terminals connected to a central host. "Cloud computing" will hit the enterprise, and in a few years the enterprise will move on to something else.
So you no longer need a computer to "access the cloud"? And here I was labouring under the impression that the majority of support jobs were related to hardware faults, OS problems, malware and user error, how "the cloud" will stop this happening is a mystery.
The dumber the terminal, the fewer hardware faults, OS problems and malware, no?
Although in practice we can expect a dumbing down of the user base too:).
At some point it's got to to run an OS, maybe on a backend server instead of a workstation but it's there. Where there's an OS and users, there will be malware. The hardware faults will transfer to "server" instead of the workstation. An interesting change will be that a hardware fault that takes down the box will impact multiple users instead of just one. You will get the benefit of redundancy if you're running a real server, though.
As an aside, we had cloud computing in the 80's and 90's. We called it Client-Server and used terminals connected to unix servers (in my case specifically, HP-UX). Now we're doing the same thing, just with different hardware and software.
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The reason to state it is to point out the stupidity of trying to insist science you don't like is just some opposing political/ideological claim. If the science is right or wrong it is because of the data, not because one is conservative or liberal.
It's not unlike your argument that the theory you agree with is 100% right and opposing views are "stupid" (to use your wording). See, you and gp really are very much alike after all. You just have the opposite opinion is all.
For the same reason they have such certainty about the things they think they "know". The whole global warming debate is a fascinating study of human psychology.
It is very interesting to be sure. On slashdot folks get moded down for even a sideways critique of Global Warming. What this world is coming too.
Mode parent up!!
It's the same for most controversial issues on Slashdot. Creationism vs Evolutionism for example. Post an comment that isn't in full support of evolution and you probably won't be able to count the milliseconds before you're at -1 and have 20 people calling you and idiot (or worse). This community is no different from any other community across the world really, it just thinks it is.
You never know, I heard they were working on teaching calculus to Orangutan's. I suspect there's a similar level of difficulty between the two.
Any time the word "cloud' is used, a real tech wants to punch you in the face. "The cloud" is a title so we don't have explain how the internet works to moronic Mr.CEO and pals.
Amen, brother. It's really getting annoying to me lately.
Big egos are just the hallmark of failure.
Eh? I'm pretty sure most successful people have huge egos. Steve Jobs, Donald Trump, Hurd the turd... I could make a long and pointless list pretty easily. I think that big egos are generally the result of success.
How is the scoring done? A 6 point spread between least and most intelligent doesn't seem all that interesting to me....
I don't think anyone questioned why they were there. The issue is, there are people who will refuse to build off of or contribute to GPL projects because they're somehow afraid of being compelled to contribute something they might not want to. So the question then becomes, are the contributions that are compelled by the license going to be greater than the contributions lost due to fear of being compelled?
I'm not taking a side here. I don't have any idea what the answer is, but I suspect it's different for different projects and different communities.
I think it's a question that cannot be answered since the latter are only theoretical contributions. It's one of those questions like "Why are we here?".
They're abiding by the terms of the GPL and considering giving more than is required. It's a company, not a charity.
Absolutely, I though the response was totally appropriate. When Jerry's Kids develop some kernel upgrades, I'll expect them to divulge everything they find and make the results FOSS. Until then, this sounds good to me.
Some folks seem to think it's unethical to try and run an IT related business these days based on the comments.
I'm surprised at all of this. While I agree that the mixed case menu looks better, I don't see why this is a big enough deal for someone to write an entire article about. I certainly was surprised that the editors would deem this submission interesting enough to select. I'm even more surprised by the huge interest posters have in it. When I saw the menu, I thought it was not as good as the old one but then immediately said "well, whatever" and moved on with trying out the new visual studio. It didn't really get in my way or anything like that. While I think the mixed case menus are more appealing, the whole time I read the article and the comments here on slashdot the word "nitpicking" kept coming to mind.
If developers really don't have anything better to worry about, then times as an IT dev are even better than I thought they were.
A model is no more a sex object than a store mannequin is a sex toy. They are selling products, they are not hookers. Get some perspective.
No, that would be a salesman or saleswoman. These are most definitely there solely for sex appeal. Even calling them "models" is a stretch in my opinion.
I honestly can't tell if you're naive or trolling. I can't think of a single thing they've done that WASN'T a dick move...
Then I guess we can both agree that we agree.
Like: "Considering that you helped a foreign power conspire to break NZ law, why should we allow you to continue to work in our country?"
I can imagine FedEx's response.
"What are you suggesting? That we open every FedEx package we ship out? To check against some kind of real-time up-to-second list provided by the police department for what's already in their evidence locker?
What happens if we don't do that? Are you going to arrest us and freeze all our assets too? Wouldn't it be easier to just put a lock on your evidence locker and carefully vet/punish the people who took out the evidence in the first place? Or at least punish/fire/jail the people who gave them access to that locker? "
Even if they had opened the package and seen hard drives, to know there might have been a problem they would have had to connect them to computers and read the data off them. It's just not reasonable in the slightest.
Wait, the MPAA is claiming the Megaupload EULA/TOS as a reason why people shouldn't get their data back? That's kinda a dick move.
Also, if I was the NZ government, I would be asking FedEx some pretty hard questions. Like: "Considering that you helped a foreign power conspire to break NZ law, why should we allow you to continue to work in our country?"
Have you even once heard of the MPAA doing anything that could not be accurately described as a dick move? I haven't.
You mean kinda like what LEAP is showing off?
Leap is only for your hands, and only covers 8 cubic feet. Not nearly the same thing as kinect, so referring to it as a more polished version of kinect seems a bit silly to me.
When the system breaks, at least getting connected to tech support in India won't seem like such a bad thing...
They will probably outsource tech support to Liberia or Sierra Leone.
I think people are blowing this secure boot problem a little out of proportion, and many like the author here are inferring that the problem is with UEFI its-self. I see UEFI as a good thing (as it has been for several years on the systems that already support UEFI). In the author's example, they complain that someone who rolled their own linux distro wouldn't be able to install it. This is a laughable idea to me, if someone has the skills to roll their own distro, why would they have a problem figuring out how to go into the UEFI config and disable secure boot? Second, we're really only talking about oem crapmachines like dell and HP/Compaq and the like which will have secure boot enabled by default to meet the Microsoft Windows8 logo certification. If an OEM like that sells machines with linux, I'm pretty sure the machine with ALSO ship with no secure boot and no logo sticker. If a user buys a machine, pays for a windows license, and still wants to wipe it out and run linux.. Somehow I fail to see how making one change in the UEFI config is a big deal.
If a user buys an asus (or whatever brand you like) motherboard, it's not going to be Windows 8 logo certified because it isn't a whole computer and I would hope would not have the secure boot enabled by default.
So, I think this is a case of mountains being made out of molehills. I only care because things like TFA seem to place the blame inappropriately on UEFI, and I've been waiting for UEFI on my machine for a very long time!
I would bet on your last point above all. Valve wants their own console, they are afraid of windows 8 for good reason. Making a linux steam client paves the way for their own steam box.
Wish I had a mod point for you. I hadn't thought of that, but you've probably hit the nail right on the head. +1 insightful. Most valve games run on relatively low end hardware (compared to pretty much any other game), so it would make the valve console super easy to create.
No. Linux is a Server OS. Not a desktop OS.
Linux had a chance to become a premiere desktop OS last decade with Microsoft Screwup on top of Screwup. However, it seemed that Apple Took the Gold and Linux Lagged
Never overestimate Microsoft. They seem to be on course for another major debacle with windows 8 and windows RT.
That doesn't change the fact that until the software people want to run are easily available on Linux, Linux isn't going "mainstream". Even supported software (like VMWare for example) is a relative PITA to install on Ubuntu (widely touted as being "easy mode" Linux) vs installing VMWare on a windows box. Linux as a community has a LONG way to go in the user friendliness area before it will be a serious contender for the desktop of an "average" user. I don't hate Linux, and I'm sure the Linux fans here will mod me down, but sometimes the truth hurts a little.
while I might think it's an analogue, another chemist might disagree,' says Shanks. 'That's the crux of the entire problem.
The author seems to have missed the fact that the real crux of the problem and that is that the country has banned the relatively safe versions, causing people to seek out these dangerous copies.
I'm not so sure he was joking.. At any rate, if you call the cops they expect to arrest someone. If the real perp is too inconvenient to go after, you're the lucky winner. This is even more likely if the malware does a bunch of google searches for kiddie porn in the background
I agree, it sounds like a very realistic scenario to me.
My rasberry pi doesn't recognize speech because I can't buy one! I've been registered on the various sites for quite a while, and I guess they're just not making any more of these. Rasberry pi was an interesting idea but it's complete lack of availability seems to have killed it.
Whatcouldpossiblygowrong?
Seriously, have these guys never seen the matrix or highlander?
Too late, Google took steps to fix it before the exploit was widely announced, according to TFA.
The real spammers who most likely had this figured out 6 months ago are probably slightly annoyed.
The sad part is nobody seems to remember we have been down this road before....show of hands, anybody remember the whole "thin client push" in the dot bomb days? I sure do, you had all these companies pushing "the net/server' would solve everything, all your IT needs and problems just poof! Gone. anybody else remember that? So what happened?
The exact same things that is gonna happen this time, worries about data security, having a whole office sitting on ass if the network ever goes down, lag and crappy hosted apps not being as good as rich desktop apps, which BTW none of these problems have been solved by replacing net or server with cloud. I guess history doomed repeat and all that.
Yep, and long before that we had unix terminals connected to a central host. "Cloud computing" will hit the enterprise, and in a few years the enterprise will move on to something else.
So you no longer need a computer to "access the cloud"? And here I was labouring under the impression that the majority of support jobs were related to hardware faults, OS problems, malware and user error, how "the cloud" will stop this happening is a mystery.
The dumber the terminal, the fewer hardware faults, OS problems and malware, no? Although in practice we can expect a dumbing down of the user base too :).
At some point it's got to to run an OS, maybe on a backend server instead of a workstation but it's there. Where there's an OS and users, there will be malware. The hardware faults will transfer to "server" instead of the workstation. An interesting change will be that a hardware fault that takes down the box will impact multiple users instead of just one. You will get the benefit of redundancy if you're running a real server, though.
As an aside, we had cloud computing in the 80's and 90's. We called it Client-Server and used terminals connected to unix servers (in my case specifically, HP-UX). Now we're doing the same thing, just with different hardware and software.